Re: Log On info

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Mon, 3 May 2021 09:20:24 -0600
F Campos Costero  wrote:

> Thank you for downloading OpenOffice. OpenOffice runs locally on each
> computer and there is no account to log into. The first time you start the
> program, there is a registration process but that sets up a user profile
> for that machine. The user profile stores your document templates, menu
> customizations, macro scripts and other details that are specific to your
> preferred use of OpenOffice on that computer. You may store the files that
> you make on a remote drive so they can be easily accessed from many
> computers but each computer must have its own copy of OpenOffice.
> I hope that helps clarify the situation. If you need more help, it would be
> best to use the user forum (https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/) or the
> user mailing list. This mailing list is for developers.
> Regards,
> Francis
> 
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 9:02 AM Frank Galler  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > I have just downloaded the Open Office prog and it seems to be exactly what
> > I was looking for. Thank you.
> > I wish to have access to my account on another device.Will I need the
> > original details or did I need to enter passwords etc., .if I did, I
> > failed to keep details. What is the method of Log On using another device.
> > Thank you.
> >

It is important to know that OpenOffice keeps merely a list of the last ten 
files edited on that installation.  These are stored on the local computer, not 
remotely in the cloud; to be edited on one or other computer, the file(s) need 
to be physically transferred from one to the other.

It _is_ possible to use remote storage (the cloud); if you know about that and 
wish to do so, you probably know enough to sort it out yourself - I cannot help.

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Re: Log On info

[F Campos Costero]

Thank you for downloading OpenOffice. OpenOffice runs locally on each
computer and there is no account to log into. The first time you start the
program, there is a registration process but that sets up a user profile
for that machine. The user profile stores your document templates, menu
customizations, macro scripts and other details that are specific to your
preferred use of OpenOffice on that computer. You may store the files that
you make on a remote drive so they can be easily accessed from many
computers but each computer must have its own copy of OpenOffice.
I hope that helps clarify the situation. If you need more help, it would be
best to use the user forum (https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/) or the
user mailing list. This mailing list is for developers.
Regards,
Francis

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 9:02 AM Frank Galler  wrote:

> Hi,
> I have just downloaded the Open Office prog and it seems to be exactly what
> I was looking for. Thank you.
> I wish to have access to my account on another device.Will I need the
> original details or did I need to enter passwords etc., .if I did, I
> failed to keep details. What is the method of Log On using another device.
> Thank you.
>

Log On info

[Frank Galler]

Hi,
I have just downloaded the Open Office prog and it seems to be exactly what
I was looking for. Thank you.
I wish to have access to my account on another device.Will I need the
original details or did I need to enter passwords etc., .if I did, I
failed to keep details. What is the method of Log On using another device.
Thank you.

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 13/01/2021 Carl Marcum wrote:

On 1/10/21 4:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
and, still on the wiki, there is also a more complete dump of the 
former Testlink cases that I cannot find right now.

Maybe these?
https://www.openoffice.org/qa/testcase/


Indeed, thanks! To be precise, the first link on that page leads you to
https://www.openoffice.org/qa/testcase/ManualTesting/
which is the "dump of former Testlink cases" I referred to. So it's not 
on the Wiki; it is on the main website.


I notice that some like
https://www.openoffice.org/qa/testcase/ManualTesting/AOOTest-107_PureText-Character_Color.html
have a notice saying "Execution Type: Automated" and there is a filename 
for an "Automation script" in Java but I doubt this has anything to do 
with the automated tests you refer to. I honestly have no idea where the 
Java files can be.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Peter Kovacs]

I know. I have time tomorrow morning :(
Probably the folder has wrong rights. 

Am 15. Januar 2021 18:41:23 MEZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
:
>Hi Peter,
>
>Am 13.01.21 um 23:53 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>
>> On 12.01.21 22:33, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12.01.21 11:44, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Hi Dave,


 @Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?
>>> I just have seen this. I will update tomorrow.
>> I have added a 4.1.9 checkout. Index is ongoing. Will report back
>> tomorrow.
>
>Thanks, but I still have only AOO418 (and trunk and AOO42X) to choose
>at:
>
>http://opengrok.openoffice.org/
>
>Regards,
>
>   Matthias

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Peter,

Am 13.01.21 um 23:53 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>
> On 12.01.21 22:33, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>
>> On 12.01.21 11:44, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>>
>>> @Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?
>> I just have seen this. I will update tomorrow.
> I have added a 4.1.9 checkout. Index is ongoing. Will report back
> tomorrow.

Thanks, but I still have only AOO418 (and trunk and AOO42X) to choose at:

http://opengrok.openoffice.org/

Regards,

   Matthias




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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Marcus]

I don't understand what you want to tell us.

Do you have a problem to understand what this mail thread means?

Thanks

Marcus



Am 14.01.21 um 00:13 schrieb Leonard Fogli:

?

El mié., 13 de enero de 2021 4:53 p. m., Peter Kovacs 
escribió:



On 12.01.21 22:33, Peter Kovacs wrote:


On 12.01.21 11:44, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Dave,


@Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?

I just have seen this. I will update tomorrow.

I have added a 4.1.9 checkout. Index is ongoing. Will report back tomorrow.
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Leonard Fogli]

?

El mié., 13 de enero de 2021 4:53 p. m., Peter Kovacs 
escribió:

>
> On 12.01.21 22:33, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> >
> > On 12.01.21 11:44, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >>
> >> @Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?
> > I just have seen this. I will update tomorrow.
> I have added a 4.1.9 checkout. Index is ongoing. Will report back tomorrow.
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Peter Kovacs]

On 12.01.21 22:33, Peter Kovacs wrote:


On 12.01.21 11:44, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Dave,


@Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?

I just have seen this. I will update tomorrow.

I have added a 4.1.9 checkout. Index is ongoing. Will report back tomorrow.
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Carl Marcum]

On 1/10/21 4:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 05/01/2021 Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.


Things are very different depending on whether one is testing a dev 
build or a release candidate.


A list of manual tests close to the "checklist" you were looking for 
can be found here (and these apply to all builds):


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/#AOO_3.4_General_Testing_Test_Cases 



and, still on the wiki, there is also a more complete dump of the 
former Testlink cases that I cannot find right now.

Maybe these?
https://www.openoffice.org/qa/testcase/



A RC (Release Candidate), instead, is very different. We ship both the 
source code and convenience binaries, but the Apache release process 
focuses mostly on legal checks to be done on the source code.


Details about voting on a RC:
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html

An example of OpenOffice RC testing (this is what I usually do; but 
other people run different tests):

https://s.apache.org/openoffice-416-tests


There are also automated tests you can run against a build.
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/test_automation_guide

I don't use the eclipse instructions and the Ant command line way is at 
the end.


I've been trying to clean these up and it's work in progress.
The BVT test for trunk are in pretty good shape. All 80 pass for me now.
Some in 4.1 are still flaky though. pass/fail intermittently.
Threading/Processor speeds are my theory.
I'm working on cherry picking a lot of test fixes from trunk to 4.1 but 
they're not ready yet.
There was a lot of API changes included that I don't think we should 
backport.

Anyway it won't matter after 4.2 anyway :)

Best regards,
Carl

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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Peter Kovacs]

On 12.01.21 11:44, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Dave,


@Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?

I just have seen this. I will update tomorrow.
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Dave,

Am 12.01.21 um 02:25 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> On 1/3/2021 7:25 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> Attached is the 419 QA Verification Report
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
Thanks for the report!

@Peter: Is it possible to replace 418 with 419 in OpenGrok?

Regards,

   Matthias




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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info RC! verification Report

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 1/3/2021 7:25 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> .
> That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
> you use the wrong AOO profile.
>>> I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.
>> Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
>> testing it there as sell
> I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
> 4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.
>
> @all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
> only two persons...
>
> Regards,
>
>Matthias
>
 Changing bootstrap.ini did the track and all problems disappeared. What
 I do not understand is why. Leaving bootstrap.ini as is should just
 point it to the standard profile
> 
> After changing bootstrap.ini all problems initially reported are gone.
> Attached is my updated QA report.
> 
> Regards
> Keith
> 
Attached is the 419 QA Verification Report

Regards
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Arrigo Marchiori]

Hello Andrea,

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:09:00PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

> On 05/01/2021 Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> > I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
> > Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.
> 
> Things are very different depending on whether one is testing a dev build or
> a release candidate.
> 
> A list of manual tests close to the "checklist" you were looking for can be
> found here (and these apply to all builds):
> 
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/#AOO_3.4_General_Testing_Test_Cases
> 
> and, still on the wiki, there is also a more complete dump of the former
> Testlink cases that I cannot find right now.
> 
> A RC (Release Candidate), instead, is very different. We ship both the
> source code and convenience binaries, but the Apache release process focuses
> mostly on legal checks to be done on the source code.
> 
> Details about voting on a RC:
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html
> 
> An example of OpenOffice RC testing (this is what I usually do; but other
> people run different tests):
> https://s.apache.org/openoffice-416-tests

Thank you very much!
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 05/01/2021 Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.


Things are very different depending on whether one is testing a dev 
build or a release candidate.


A list of manual tests close to the "checklist" you were looking for can 
be found here (and these apply to all builds):


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/#AOO_3.4_General_Testing_Test_Cases

and, still on the wiki, there is also a more complete dump of the former 
Testlink cases that I cannot find right now.


A RC (Release Candidate), instead, is very different. We ship both the 
source code and convenience binaries, but the Apache release process 
focuses mostly on legal checks to be done on the source code.


Details about voting on a RC:
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html

An example of OpenOffice RC testing (this is what I usually do; but 
other people run different tests):

https://s.apache.org/openoffice-416-tests

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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Jim Jagielski]

This seems like a safe and non-controversial fix to me...

> On Jan 7, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 07:03:19AM -0800, Don Lewis wrote:
> 
>> On  6 Jan, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Arrigo Marchiori  
 wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 
 - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.
 
 Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
 4.1.9?
 
>>> 
>>> AFAICT, it is not a regression (trunk and 4.1.x are very different)... So I 
>>> don't
>>> think it should hold off 4.1.9-RC1 IMO
>> 
>> Agreed.  Who knows how long this would take to understand, fix, and
>> test.   In the meantime, there are a lot of Big Sur users waiting on
>> 4.1.9.
> 
> In the hope it can be useful, please see here:
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/116 
> 
> 
> Apparently, Linux crashes because certain stacks are pop()-ed without
> ever being push()-ed before.
> 
> My personal theory is that Windows's standard library may add some
> implicit checks, and for this reason Windows builds do not seem to
> crash.
> 
> The PR addresses the ``symptoms'' of a wrong parsing. The parsing
> itself should be fixed, but maybe this ``quick'' fix is ok for a
> minor release, if it avoids a blatant crash?
> 
> I hope it can be useful. It applies to trunk and AOO419 so it should
> be easily integrated ``at the last minute'' if we found it's worth it.
> 
> Best regards,
> -- 
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> 
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Arrigo Marchiori]

Hello,

On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 07:03:19AM -0800, Don Lewis wrote:

> On  6 Jan, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Arrigo Marchiori  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hello All,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.
> >> 
> >> Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
> >> 4.1.9?
> >> 
> > 
> > AFAICT, it is not a regression (trunk and 4.1.x are very different)... So I 
> > don't
> > think it should hold off 4.1.9-RC1 IMO
> 
> Agreed.  Who knows how long this would take to understand, fix, and
> test.   In the meantime, there are a lot of Big Sur users waiting on
> 4.1.9.

In the hope it can be useful, please see here:
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/116

Apparently, Linux crashes because certain stacks are pop()-ed without
ever being push()-ed before.

My personal theory is that Windows's standard library may add some
implicit checks, and for this reason Windows builds do not seem to
crash.

The PR addresses the ``symptoms'' of a wrong parsing. The parsing
itself should be fixed, but maybe this ``quick'' fix is ok for a
minor release, if it avoids a blatant crash?

I hope it can be useful. It applies to trunk and AOO419 so it should
be easily integrated ``at the last minute'' if we found it's worth it.

Best regards,
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Don Lewis]

On  6 Jan, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> 
>> - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.
>> 
>> Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
>> 4.1.9?
>> 
> 
> AFAICT, it is not a regression (trunk and 4.1.x are very different)... So I 
> don't
> think it should hold off 4.1.9-RC1 IMO

Agreed.  Who knows how long this would take to understand, fix, and
test.   In the meantime, there are a lot of Big Sur users waiting on
4.1.9.



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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Jim Jagielski]

> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 
> - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.
> 
> Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
> 4.1.9?
> 

AFAICT, it is not a regression (trunk and 4.1.x are very different)... So I 
don't
think it should hold off 4.1.9-RC1 IMO

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Arrigo Marchiori]

Hello All,

On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 04:21:47PM -0500, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

> On 1/5/2021 12:46 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:42:47PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi Jim,
> >>
> >> Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>>
>  On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>  wrote:
> 
>  Hi Jim,
> 
>  Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
>  I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:
> 
>  https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
>  
> >>> This was handled by making fakeroot required:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806
> >>
> >> OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?
> > 
> > I can confirm that the Italian test builds in DEB format did not show
> > the problem.
> > 
> > I am confident that the bug was fixed by Jim's commit.
> > 
> >> And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.
> > 
> > I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
> > Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.
> > 
> > Best regards.
> > 
> > References:
> > 
> > 1: 
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r54b17e3692b4207a1c9cdb132d836a7b803d2f65b3548529992c%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
> > 
> Arrigio;
> 
> There is a lot of QA information on the wiki at:
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA. A lot of the information is either
> dated, or obsolete but there is still much good information that can be
> used.

I tried to look into it... and it's really too much for me at the
moment. I am sorry. If you have any ready-made checklist I will be
happy to go through it, but I could not make much sense out of the QA
section at the moment...

...except for the idea of verifying the bugs "changed after" the
release date. I used the date for 4.1.7 and I found this:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127952

The fun (?) fact is that:

 - the AOO 4.1.9 build for Windows by Matthias can open the file;

 - Jim's RPM builds for Linux _crash_ while opening that file;

 - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.

Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
4.1.9?

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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Leonard Fogli]

Estoy de acuerdo

El mar., 5 de enero de 2021 6:29 a. m., Jim Jagielski 
escribió:

> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
>
> > On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >
> > The AOO419 branch has been created.
> > The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
> > The Release Status page has been cloned:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 1/5/2021 12:46 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:42:47PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>
 On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
 wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
 I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:

 https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
 
>>> This was handled by making fakeroot required:
>>>
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806
>>
>> OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?
> 
> I can confirm that the Italian test builds in DEB format did not show
> the problem.
> 
> I am confident that the bug was fixed by Jim's commit.
> 
>> And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.
> 
> I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
> Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> References:
> 
> 1: 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r54b17e3692b4207a1c9cdb132d836a7b803d2f65b3548529992c%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
> 
Arrigio;

There is a lot of QA information on the wiki at:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA. A lot of the information is either
dated, or obsolete but there is still much good information that can be
used.

Regards
Keith




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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 1/5/2021 7:29 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
> 

It appears that we are ready and should go ahead and plan for next week.
regards
Keith

>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>
>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Arrigo,

Am 05.01.21 um 18:46 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:
> Hello All,
>
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:42:47PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
 On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
 wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
 I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:

 https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
 
>>> This was handled by making fakeroot required:
>>>
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806
>> OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?
> I can confirm that the Italian test builds in DEB format did not show
> the problem.
>
> I am confident that the bug was fixed by Jim's commit.
>
>> And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.
> I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
> Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.

I don't know if we have any procedures, but you can always download,
install and test the build against regressions...

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Best regards.
>
> References:
>
> 1: 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r54b17e3692b4207a1c9cdb132d836a7b803d2f65b3548529992c%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E



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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Arrigo Marchiori]

Hello All,

On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:42:47PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >
> >> On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jim,
> >>
> >> Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
> >> I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:
> >>
> >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
> >> 
> > This was handled by making fakeroot required:
> >
> > 
> > https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806
> 
> OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?

I can confirm that the Italian test builds in DEB format did not show
the problem.

I am confident that the bug was fixed by Jim's commit.

> And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.

I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.

Best regards.

References:

1: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r54b17e3692b4207a1c9cdb132d836a7b803d2f65b3548529992c%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Jim,

Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>
>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
>> I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:
>>
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
>> 
> This was handled by making fakeroot required:
>
> 
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806

OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?

And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.

>
>> And how about the logos? Leave the anniversary edition or revert?
> I think we all agreed to revert.

OK, then I will go ahead.

Matthias

>
>> Other than that, next week would be OK for me.
>>
>> Matthias
>>
 On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

 The AOO419 branch has been created.
 The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
 The Release Status page has been cloned: 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Jim Jagielski]

> On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
> 
> I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:
> 
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
> 

This was handled by making fakeroot required:


https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806

> 
> And how about the logos? Leave the anniversary edition or revert?

I think we all agreed to revert.

> 
> Other than that, next week would be OK for me.
> 
> Matthias
> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Marcus]

Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

Should we try for a RC1 early next week?


comment #9 is very promising:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128415

Then it's time to finish and publish the blog post and make it more public.

Marcus




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The AOO419 branch has been created.
The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
The Release Status page has been cloned: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9



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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Leonard Fogli]

Emuybien. Exelete

El sáb., 2 de enero de 2021 2:00 p. m., Dave Fisher 
escribió:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 2, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna 
> wrote:
> >
> > On 1/2/2021 11:07 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> >> Hi Keith,
> >>
> >>> Am 31.12.20 um 04:43 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> >>> On 12/30/2020 7:17 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>  Hi Keith,
> 
>  Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.
> 
>  Clipboard works as expected for me.
> 
>  Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup
> /a"
> >>> No simply did setup /a and it installed it with the profile in the same
> >>> folder.
> >> That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
> >> you use the wrong AOO profile.
>  I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows
> 10.
> >>> Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
> >>> testing it there as sell
> >>
> >> I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
> >> 4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.
> >>
> >> @all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
> >> only two persons...
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>Matthias
> >>
> >>>
> > Changing bootstrap.ini did the track and all problems disappeared. What
> > I do not understand is why. Leaving bootstrap.ini as is should just
> > point it to the standard profile
>
> Could it be because this is a Developer Build?
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> >
> >>> Regards
> >>> Keith
> >>>
>  Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
>  Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> > On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
> >>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
> >>> The Release Status page has been cloned:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
> >> First test builds for Windows are available at:
> >>
> >> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>Matthias
> >>
> >>>
> -
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> >>>
> >> Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
> > would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have
> been
> > experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.
> >
> > Regards
> > Keith
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

.
 That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
 you use the wrong AOO profile.
>> I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.
> Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
> testing it there as sell
 I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
 4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.

 @all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
 only two persons...

 Regards,

Matthias

>>> Changing bootstrap.ini did the track and all problems disappeared. What
>>> I do not understand is why. Leaving bootstrap.ini as is should just
>>> point it to the standard profile

After changing bootstrap.ini all problems initially reported are gone.
Attached is my updated QA report.

Regards
Keith


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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Dave,

Am 02.01.21 um 21:00 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 2, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna  
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/2/2021 11:07 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi Keith,
>>>
 Am 31.12.20 um 04:43 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
 On 12/30/2020 7:17 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.
>
> Clipboard works as expected for me.
>
> Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup /a" 
 No simply did setup /a and it installed it with the profile in the same
 folder.
>>> That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
>>> you use the wrong AOO profile.
> I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.
 Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
 testing it there as sell
>>> I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
>>> 4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.
>>>
>>> @all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
>>> only two persons...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>Matthias
>>>
>> Changing bootstrap.ini did the track and all problems disappeared. What
>> I do not understand is why. Leaving bootstrap.ini as is should just
>> point it to the standard profile
> Could it be because this is a Developer Build?

The Windows builds are *not* Developer Builds.

Dev Builds have enough problems of their own, so I am building close to
the release builds, only branding them as "Developer Test Builds".

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
 Regards
 Keith

> Regards,
>
>Matthias
>
> Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>> On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
 The AOO419 branch has been created.
 The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
 The Release Status page has been cloned: 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
>>> First test builds for Windows are available at:
>>>
>>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>Matthias
>>>
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>>> Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
>> would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
>> experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Dave Fisher]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna  
> wrote:
> 
> On 1/2/2021 11:07 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Keith,
>> 
>>> Am 31.12.20 um 04:43 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>>> On 12/30/2020 7:17 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Hi Keith,
 
 Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.
 
 Clipboard works as expected for me.
 
 Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup /a" 
>>> No simply did setup /a and it installed it with the profile in the same
>>> folder.
>> That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
>> you use the wrong AOO profile.
 I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.
>>> Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
>>> testing it there as sell
>> 
>> I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
>> 4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.
>> 
>> @all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
>> only two persons...
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
>>> 
> Changing bootstrap.ini did the track and all problems disappeared. What
> I do not understand is why. Leaving bootstrap.ini as is should just
> point it to the standard profile

Could it be because this is a Developer Build?

Regards,
Dave

> 
>>> Regards
>>> Keith
>>> 
 Regards,
 
Matthias
 
 Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
>> First test builds for Windows are available at:
>> 
>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
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>>> 
>> Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
> would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
> experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.
> 
> Regards
> Keith
>>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 1/2/2021 11:07 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi Keith,
> 
> Am 31.12.20 um 04:43 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>> On 12/30/2020 7:17 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi Keith,
>>>
>>> Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.
>>>
>>> Clipboard works as expected for me.
>>>
>>> Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup /a" 
>> No simply did setup /a and it installed it with the profile in the same
>> folder.
> That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
> you use the wrong AOO profile.
>>> I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.
>> Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
>> testing it there as sell
> 
> I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
> 4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.
> 
> @all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
> only two persons...
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
>>
Changing bootstrap.ini did the track and all problems disappeared. What
I do not understand is why. Leaving bootstrap.ini as is should just
point it to the standard profile

>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>    Matthias
>>>
>>> Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
 On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
> First test builds for Windows are available at:
>
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
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> Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
 would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
 experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.

 Regards
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>>
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Keith,

Am 31.12.20 um 04:43 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> On 12/30/2020 7:17 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.
>>
>> Clipboard works as expected for me.
>>
>> Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup /a" 
> No simply did setup /a and it installed it with the profile in the same
> folder.
That may be the problem, you have to change the bootstrap.ini, otherwise
you use the wrong AOO profile.
>> I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.
> Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
> testing it there as sell

I now tested on Windows 10 with multiple AOO installations (4.1.8,
4.1.9, 4.2.0) and could not see a regression.

@all: Maybe some other can also test? I don't feel comfortable if we are
only two persons...

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>> Regards,
>>
>>    Matthias
>>
>> Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>>> On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Hi all,

 Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> The AOO419 branch has been created.
> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
 First test builds for Windows are available at:

 https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/

 Regards,

    Matthias

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 Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
>>> would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
>>> experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Keith
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 12/30/2020 7:17 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi Keith,
> 
> Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.
> 
> Clipboard works as expected for me.
> 
> Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup /a" 

No simply did setup /a and it installed it with the profile in the same
folder.
> 
> I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.

Thank you Matthias. I will boot up my old windows 7 machine and try
testing it there as sell

Regards
Keith

> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>> On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
 The AOO419 branch has been created.
 The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
 The Release Status page has been cloned: 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
>>> First test builds for Windows are available at:
>>>
>>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>    Matthias
>>>
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>> would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
>> experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Keith,

Just did a quick test with AOO 4.1.9 on Windows 7.

Clipboard works as expected for me.

Regarding the locked files, did you edit bootstrap.ini after "setup /a" ?

I will do some more tests (next year) with multi install on Windows 10.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 31.12.20 um 00:59 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
>> First test builds for Windows are available at:
>>
>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>    Matthias
>>
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>>>
>> Attached is my QA report for 4.1.9 based on Matthias's 2020-12-29. I
> would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
> experiencing occasional oddities with my system of late.
>
> Regards
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 12/28/2020 5:11 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
> 
> First test builds for Windows are available at:
> 
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
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would appreciate someone checking the issues I point out as I have been
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Marcus]

Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

The AOO419 branch has been created.
The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
The Release Status page has been cloned: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9


thanks a lot for making this effort - and to wear the release manager 
hat one more time. :-)


Marcus


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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

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Hi all,

Am 27.12.20 um 14:49 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> The AOO419 branch has been created.
> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9

First test builds for Windows are available at:

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/

Regards,

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The AOO419 branch has been created.
The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
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[INFO] ProOOBox and Flyer

[Peter Kovacs]

I would like to inform you on a lengthy and broad discussion on dev-de 
between Myself, Detlef Nennan, Jörg Schmidt and Jan-Christian Wienandt


My initial Question has been because Jörg hat removed ProOOBox from 
Flyer contributors note I did on Cwiki so a recruiter could see what is 
who doing. I wanted to know about some background of this.


Further more we talked about the Apache Way and personal issues.

ProOOBox will continue to support AOO, and Jörg has said they are 
actively working on updating documentation.


Detlef has renewed his will to contribute to the flyers.


The German Pony Link to the discussion (untranslated. I could not find a 
service that worked.):


https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf1d36b3900b508cb9efd42ec1a56240694e4b9941581ed044d63%40%3Cdev-de.openoffice.apache.org%3E





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Re: [help] Booth for FOSDEM 2019 additional Info.

[Peter kovacs]

I think so am fine now. There is the link and I think press is best suited.
Yesterday I got distracted. I want to finish this point tomorrow.

Am 30. Oktober 2018 12:03:40 MEZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
:
>Am 26.10.18 um 00:21 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>> Marcus wrote:
>>> Am 25.10.2018 um 12:48 schrieb Peter kovacs:
>>>> All I can add it is fields to enter on the booth registration.
>>> hm, OK.
>>> For the social media link, our project page could be helpful - as
>>> Matthias stated:
>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/social.html
>>
>> I assume the form we are talking about is this one:
>> https://submission.fosdem.org/stands.php
>
>Deadline is 2 November...
>
>@Peter: Do you still need more info?
>
>Regards,
>
>   Matthias
>
>>
>>> As I cannot imagine what mails could be sent to the "public email
>>> contact" (e.g., password, confirmation code) I would prefer privat@
>-
>>> just to be sure.
>>
>> I believe pr...@openoffice.org will do. In the context, I assume this
>> would be used in a listing page such as (previous edition)
>> https://archive.fosdem.org/2018/stands/ in the, very rare,
>> circumstances when a project does not have a web site.
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
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Re: [help] Booth for FOSDEM 2019 additional Info.

[Matthias Seidel]

Am 26.10.18 um 00:21 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> Marcus wrote:
>> Am 25.10.2018 um 12:48 schrieb Peter kovacs:
>>> All I can add it is fields to enter on the booth registration.
>> hm, OK.
>> For the social media link, our project page could be helpful - as
>> Matthias stated:
>> https://openoffice.apache.org/social.html
>
> I assume the form we are talking about is this one:
> https://submission.fosdem.org/stands.php

Deadline is 2 November...

@Peter: Do you still need more info?

Regards,

   Matthias

>
>> As I cannot imagine what mails could be sent to the "public email
>> contact" (e.g., password, confirmation code) I would prefer privat@ -
>> just to be sure.
>
> I believe pr...@openoffice.org will do. In the context, I assume this
> would be used in a listing page such as (previous edition)
> https://archive.fosdem.org/2018/stands/ in the, very rare,
> circumstances when a project does not have a web site.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: [help] Booth for FOSDEM 2019 additional Info.

[Andrea Pescetti]

Marcus wrote:

Am 25.10.2018 um 12:48 schrieb Peter kovacs:

All I can add it is fields to enter on the booth registration.

hm, OK.
For the social media link, our project page could be helpful - as 
Matthias stated:

https://openoffice.apache.org/social.html


I assume the form we are talking about is this one:
https://submission.fosdem.org/stands.php

As I cannot imagine what mails could be sent to the "public email 
contact" (e.g., password, confirmation code) I would prefer privat@ - 
just to be sure.


I believe pr...@openoffice.org will do. In the context, I assume this 
would be used in a listing page such as (previous edition) 
https://archive.fosdem.org/2018/stands/ in the, very rare, circumstances 
when a project does not have a web site.


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Re: [help] Booth for FOSDEM 2019 additional Info.

[Marcus]

Am 25.10.2018 um 12:48 schrieb Peter kovacs:

All I can add it is fields to enter on the booth registration.


hm, OK.

For the social media link, our project page could be helpful - as 
Matthias stated:


https://openoffice.apache.org/social.html

As I cannot imagine what mails could be sent to the "public email 
contact" (e.g., password, confirmation code) I would prefer privat@ - 
just to be sure.


HTH

Marcus




Am 24. Oktober 2018 23:56:54 MESZ schrieb Marcus :

Am 24.10.2018 um 23:36 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

I need some help. could someone collect these?

Additional links (e.g. IRC, Google+, RSS, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube,
mailing list etc.):


IMHO it would be easier when we have some more context why/where these
information is needed.


And our public email contact is dev or private or press address? I am
not sure.


Also here: What is meant with "public"? Also here some more context is
helpful.

Thanks

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Re: [help] Booth for FOSDEM 2019 additional Info.

[Peter kovacs]

All I can add it is fields to enter on the booth registration.

Am 24. Oktober 2018 23:56:54 MESZ schrieb Marcus :
>Am 24.10.2018 um 23:36 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>> I need some help. could someone collect these?
>> 
>> Additional links (e.g. IRC, Google+, RSS, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube,
>> mailing list etc.):
>
>IMHO it would be easier when we have some more context why/where these 
>information is needed.
>
>> And our public email contact is dev or private or press address? I am
>> not sure.
>
>Also here: What is meant with "public"? Also here some more context is 
>helpful.
>
>Thanks
>
>Marcus
>
>
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Re: [help] Booth for FOSDEM 2019 additional Info.

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Peter,

Am 24.10.18 um 23:36 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
> Hello all,
>
>
> I need some help. could someone collect these?
>
> Additional links (e.g. IRC, Google+, RSS, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube,
> mailing list etc.):

We have a project page that may help ;-)
https://openoffice.apache.org/social.html

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> And our public email contact is dev or private or press address? I am
> not sure.
>
> Thanks!
>
> All the best
>
> Peter
>
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Re: [help] Booth for FOSDEM 2019 additional Info.

[Marcus]

Am 24.10.2018 um 23:36 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

I need some help. could someone collect these?

Additional links (e.g. IRC, Google+, RSS, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube,
mailing list etc.):


IMHO it would be easier when we have some more context why/where these 
information is needed.



And our public email contact is dev or private or press address? I am
not sure.


Also here: What is meant with "public"? Also here some more context is 
helpful.


Thanks

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[help] Booth for FOSDEM 2019 additional Info.

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello all,


I need some help. could someone collect these?

Additional links (e.g. IRC, Google+, RSS, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube,
mailing list etc.):


And our public email contact is dev or private or press address? I am
not sure.

Thanks!

All the best

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Re: INFO: Your content translation into Polish

[FR web forum]

Read this: https://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html


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Envoyé: Mardi 25 Avril 2017 21:48:57
Objet: INFO: Your content translation into Polish

Hello there, 

I am glad to find Your help request, because I can do the translation
into Polish language. 

How long already are You looking for someone, who will take this task? 

Let me know more information. 

Best regards, 

Sebastiaan Rafał Zgraja 

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INFO: Your content translation into Polish

[sebastiaan]

Hello there, 

I am glad to find Your help request, because I can do the translation
into Polish language. 

How long already are You looking for someone, who will take this task? 

Let me know more information. 

Best regards, 

Sebastiaan Rafał Zgraja 

Użytkownik OpenOffice z Polski :-)

[INFO] Contact with wikimedia.ch

[Guy Waterval]

Hi all,

I had an interesting discussion this afternoon in Lausanne with people of
wikimédia.ch http://xn--wikimdia-f1a.ch. This project has about 500
members and produces contents for Wikipedia. It also  develops a software,
Kiwix. The project is not only composed of volunteers, it integrates also
employees, mainly project managers, who organize courses for new members in
different locations on a regular basis, provide maintenance of the
structure and are responsible for contacts with the media to guide them on
projects which make the demand when they organize events. I can count of
their help to promote the AOO project in Switzerland.
Regarding the documentation, there is no problem. If a work is initialized
under a dual license cc-by-sa / Alv2.0, their potential contributors will
work under the dual license. So, the ALv2.0 license will always be
maintained and the AOO project can anytime reuse the material, if desired.

Regards
-- 
gw

Re: [Info] Presentation about free software on Windows

[Guy Waterval]

Hi Alexandro,

Many thanks for these informations, Alexandro.
As I will have a stand in a commercial center in two weeks, perhaps I will
have an opportunity to discuss with people and collect some ideas and
advices about this question.
There are also other possible ways to collaborate, perhaps more accessible
for a school : extensions, translations, templates, etc. I will try to
explore also these possibilities with interested people.

A+
-- 
gw

2014-11-07 0:40 GMT+01:00 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org:

 There have been some cases where schools have contributed to the
 project and a lot has been talked and posted. Maybe the blog would be
 a good place for that article.

 There are some testimonials on the openoffice wiki with Hitek school
 and Seneca from back in 2010.
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Courses/Seneca_College
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/HitekSchool

 As an ex-leader of the Education project we welcomed schools willing
 to engage with the project. And we worked on protocols to be able to
 work withing the schools own protocols.


 On 11/6/14, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Andrea,
 
  Many thanks.
  A little offtopic here but just as an introduction.
  Could it be possible to produce for next year a little document
 explaining
  how a school of Engineering for instance, could collaborate to the code
 of
  the AOO project. Such a document could be sent by members of the project
 to
  schools where they have already internal contacts to promote the AOO
  project and to test their reaction.  At the end of their studies the
  students receive a projet to do. Could it not possible to have a list of
  tasks which could be submit to schools as possible projects for their
  students ?
 
  A+
  --
  gw
 
  2014-11-05 0:19 GMT+01:00 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org:
 
  On 20/10/2014 Guy Waterval wrote:
 
  2014-10-16 0:16 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti:
 
  Remember that you can ask to be listed at
  http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html ...
 
  It's a good idea, indeed. Many thanks.
  Here are the needed informations.
 
 
  Thanks. And after lazy-lazy-lazy consensus, this is now online at the
  above URL.
 
 
  Regards,
Andrea.
 
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Re: [Info] Presentation about free software on Windows

[Alexandro Colorado]

There is always activities for all levels, from doing templates and
contribute to our database:
http://templates.openoffice.org/

I have mentor kids that sign up for Google Code-In which is a program
for high school kids and google with open source software:
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/

Not sure if OpenOffice will participate this year but we have
participate in the past and is a good way to contribute and get
instant recognition and prices.

On 11/7/14, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Alexandro,

 Many thanks for these informations, Alexandro.
 As I will have a stand in a commercial center in two weeks, perhaps I will
 have an opportunity to discuss with people and collect some ideas and
 advices about this question.
 There are also other possible ways to collaborate, perhaps more accessible
 for a school : extensions, translations, templates, etc. I will try to
 explore also these possibilities with interested people.

 A+
 --
 gw

 2014-11-07 0:40 GMT+01:00 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org:

 There have been some cases where schools have contributed to the
 project and a lot has been talked and posted. Maybe the blog would be
 a good place for that article.

 There are some testimonials on the openoffice wiki with Hitek school
 and Seneca from back in 2010.
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Courses/Seneca_College
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/HitekSchool

 As an ex-leader of the Education project we welcomed schools willing
 to engage with the project. And we worked on protocols to be able to
 work withing the schools own protocols.


 On 11/6/14, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Andrea,
 
  Many thanks.
  A little offtopic here but just as an introduction.
  Could it be possible to produce for next year a little document
 explaining
  how a school of Engineering for instance, could collaborate to the code
 of
  the AOO project. Such a document could be sent by members of the
  project
 to
  schools where they have already internal contacts to promote the AOO
  project and to test their reaction.  At the end of their studies the
  students receive a projet to do. Could it not possible to have a list
  of
  tasks which could be submit to schools as possible projects for their
  students ?
 
  A+
  --
  gw
 
  2014-11-05 0:19 GMT+01:00 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org:
 
  On 20/10/2014 Guy Waterval wrote:
 
  2014-10-16 0:16 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti:
 
  Remember that you can ask to be listed at
  http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html ...
 
  It's a good idea, indeed. Many thanks.
  Here are the needed informations.
 
 
  Thanks. And after lazy-lazy-lazy consensus, this is now online at the
  above URL.
 
 
  Regards,
Andrea.
 
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Re: [Info] Presentation about free software on Windows

[Guy Waterval]

Hi Andrea,

Many thanks.
A little offtopic here but just as an introduction.
Could it be possible to produce for next year a little document explaining
how a school of Engineering for instance, could collaborate to the code of
the AOO project. Such a document could be sent by members of the project to
schools where they have already internal contacts to promote the AOO
project and to test their reaction.  At the end of their studies the
students receive a projet to do. Could it not possible to have a list of
tasks which could be submit to schools as possible projects for their
students ?

A+
-- 
gw

2014-11-05 0:19 GMT+01:00 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org:

 On 20/10/2014 Guy Waterval wrote:

 2014-10-16 0:16 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti:

 Remember that you can ask to be listed at
 http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html ...

 It's a good idea, indeed. Many thanks.
 Here are the needed informations.


 Thanks. And after lazy-lazy-lazy consensus, this is now online at the
 above URL.


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   Andrea.

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Re: [Info] Presentation about free software on Windows

[Alexandro Colorado]

There have been some cases where schools have contributed to the
project and a lot has been talked and posted. Maybe the blog would be
a good place for that article.

There are some testimonials on the openoffice wiki with Hitek school
and Seneca from back in 2010.
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Courses/Seneca_College
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/HitekSchool

As an ex-leader of the Education project we welcomed schools willing
to engage with the project. And we worked on protocols to be able to
work withing the schools own protocols.


On 11/6/14, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Andrea,

 Many thanks.
 A little offtopic here but just as an introduction.
 Could it be possible to produce for next year a little document explaining
 how a school of Engineering for instance, could collaborate to the code of
 the AOO project. Such a document could be sent by members of the project to
 schools where they have already internal contacts to promote the AOO
 project and to test their reaction.  At the end of their studies the
 students receive a projet to do. Could it not possible to have a list of
 tasks which could be submit to schools as possible projects for their
 students ?

 A+
 --
 gw

 2014-11-05 0:19 GMT+01:00 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org:

 On 20/10/2014 Guy Waterval wrote:

 2014-10-16 0:16 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti:

 Remember that you can ask to be listed at
 http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html ...

 It's a good idea, indeed. Many thanks.
 Here are the needed informations.


 Thanks. And after lazy-lazy-lazy consensus, this is now online at the
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Re: [Info] Presentation about free software on Windows

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 20/10/2014 Guy Waterval wrote:

2014-10-16 0:16 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti:

Remember that you can ask to be listed at
http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html ...

It's a good idea, indeed. Many thanks.
Here are the needed informations.


Thanks. And after lazy-lazy-lazy consensus, this is now online at the 
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Re: [Info] Presentation about free software on Windows

[Guy Waterval]

Hi Andrea,

2014-10-16 0:16 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org:

 On 11/10/2014 Guy Waterval wrote:

 BTW, for legal issues and to be allowed accept mandates from companies and
 from the state, I had to create a company. It will act in the promotion
 and
 help to the migration to free software, principally AOO and was officially
 registered at the 01.06.14.


 Remember that you can ask to be listed at
 http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html

 This might also give you a little more visibility for future events.


It's a good idea, indeed. Many thanks.
Here are the needed informations.

Name : Guy Waterval http://www.softenpoche.com

Area of Practice : Training – Documentation - Support

Countries : CH

Description :
Training courses for the modules Writer, Calc, Impress and Draw.
Developpement of Softenpoche, a portable free software collection,
allowing the use of the Apache OpenOffice TM productivity suite and other
complementary free office tools anywhere on any Windows computer without
installation. Developpement of free teaching material to help interested
people to promote the AOO project and the use of the Apache OpenOffice TM
suite in companies and schools in their region.

Contact : waterval@gmail.com

BTW : during the registration procedure (one month) I had  to transmit
- Marketing material (own material : stylo, flyers, cards, etc)
- Notice explaining what I was planning to do with a disclaimer that I was
working only  as a thirdparty
- Copy of AOO software (I have given a portable and preconfigurated version)
- Copy of my ICLA
- 2 filled forms

A+
-- 
gw

Re: [Info] Presentation about free software on Windows

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 11/10/2014 Guy Waterval wrote:

BTW, for legal issues and to be allowed accept mandates from companies and
from the state, I had to create a company. It will act in the promotion and
help to the migration to free software, principally AOO and was officially
registered at the 01.06.14.


Remember that you can ask to be listed at
http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html

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Re: [Info] Presentation about free software on Windows

[Guy Waterval]

Hi all,

Results are bad : only 2 participants.
But the feedbacks which I receive now about the material I have distributed
during my marketing campaign are good and encourage me to continue. So, I
don't understand very well why only 2 participants were present. But that's
life.

I will now do presentations as often as possible in various stores or
events.

BTW, for legal issues and to be allowed accept mandates from companies and
from the state, I had to create a company. It will act in the promotion and
help to the migration to free software, principally AOO and was officially
registered at the 01.06.14.

A+
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gw

2014-09-17 8:11 GMT+02:00 Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com:

 Hi all,

 Just for info, I will try, for the second time, to organize an event
 around free software and AOO in Switzerland (as a third party, non
 official).

 http://softenpoche.com/manifestations.html

 I will transmit the results of the try : bad or good ;-)

 A+
 --
 gw

Re: [Info] Presentation about free software on Windows

[Kay Schenk]

On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi all,

 Results are bad : only 2 participants.
 But the feedbacks which I receive now about the material I have distributed
 during my marketing campaign are good and encourage me to continue. So, I
 don't understand very well why only 2 participants were present. But that's
 life.

 I will now do presentations as often as possible in various stores or
 events.

 BTW, for legal issues and to be allowed accept mandates from companies and
 from the state, I had to create a company. It will act in the promotion and
 help to the migration to free software, principally AOO and was officially
 registered at the 01.06.14.

 A+
 --
 gw


Thank you for sharing...



 2014-09-17 8:11 GMT+02:00 Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com:

  Hi all,
 
  Just for info, I will try, for the second time, to organize an event
  around free software and AOO in Switzerland (as a third party, non
  official).
 
  http://softenpoche.com/manifestations.html
 
  I will transmit the results of the try : bad or good ;-)
 
  A+
  --
  gw
 




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[Info] Presentation about free software on Windows

[Guy Waterval]

Hi all,

Just for info, I will try, for the second time, to organize an event around
free software and AOO in Switzerland (as a third party, non official).

http://softenpoche.com/manifestations.html

I will transmit the results of the try : bad or good ;-)

A+
-- 
gw

more info

[Donna]

OxygenOffice Professional's Site http://ooop.sf.net.

Is this part of your open office ?

Re: more info

[Andrea Pescetti]

Donna wrote:

OxygenOffice Professional's Site http://ooop.sf.net
Is this part of your open office ?


No, it isn't part of the OpenOffice project.

Andrea

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Re: more info

[jonathon]

On September 15, 2014 12:59:52 PM PDT, Donna  wrote:
OxygenOffice Professional's Site http://ooop.sf.net.

Is this part of your open office ?

Most of that project was folded into LibreOffice.

jonathon

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[INFO] Your project is a Project of the Week on SourceForge!

[Jürgen Schmidt]

Hi,

I am a project owner of the AOO project at SourceForge that is mainly
used to handle the binary artifacts for our releases. You know I do the
upload of the binaries etc.

I was informed that AOO was one of the projects of the week. And I
thought it is worth to share it with you.


###
Hello,

My name is Elizabeth Daniels and I am the senior content editor for
SourceForge. I am writing to inform you that your project is featured as
Project of the Week and is listed on the front page of our site this
week. This means your project may be included in this month's Community
Project of the Month vote, depending on the number of downloads it gets.
If you haven't already done so, please update your Project Summary Page.

And, here is the link to the blog post notifying the community of your
accomplishment:

http://sourceforge.net/blog/projects-of-the-week-august-25-2014

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[INFO]: statistics about our FB page

[Jürgen Schmidt]

Hi,

I receive regularly some statistics about our FB page and would like to
share it with you.

Last WeekPrevious WeekTrend
Total Page Likes 12,288   12,254   0.3%
New Likes48   31   54.8%
Weekly Total Reach   648  578  12.1%
People Engaged   79   62   27.4%

Nothing special, just for your interest.

Juergen

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Re: [INFO]: statistics about our FB page

[Kay Schenk]

On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 I receive regularly some statistics about our FB page and would like to
 share it with you.

 Last WeekPrevious WeekTrend
 Total Page Likes 12,288   12,254   0.3%
 New Likes48   31   54.8%
 Weekly Total Reach   648  578  12.1%
 People Engaged   79   62   27.4%

 Nothing special, just for your interest.

 Juergen

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Re: Please disable 4.1.0 Update Info!

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 16/05/2014 Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

I submitted Issue 124913 - Disable 4.1.0 Update Info
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124913
because I think that it would be irresponsible to encourage users to
update to 4.1.0 with known issue.


I'm not sure this would give any results. Maybe OpenOffice caches the 
update information, so one would still get the update notification even 
if we retire it. But in general, 4.1.0 is the best version we can offer. 
You cite https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124717 as the 
reason but the root cause for it is an issue that has existed since 
2010, and it took a huge effort and many misunderstandings before you 
found a way to reproduce it.


I agree, though, that we should consider a 4.1.1, and maybe schedule it 
for June; we already have a couple of new languages and some bugfixes, 
we have an ongoing session of post-release tests and in a few weeks 
we'll probably be ready to wrap it up and see what's best to do.



I also think that there should be a hint in 4.1.0 Release Notes under
Known issues


Sure. I see it's there now and it's good to have it there.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Please disable 4.1.0 Update Info!

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi,

I submitted Issue 124913 - Disable 4.1.0 Update Info
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124913
because I think that it would be irresponsible to encourage users to 
update to 4.1.0 with known issue.


I also think that there should be a hint in 4.1.0 Release Notes under 
Known issues


CU

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apacheCon Europe Budapest 17-21 november, prices and other info

[jan i]

Hi.

Just a little advance information.

you can find the homepage here:
apachecon.eu

Call for papers is open now and until June 25, let together show that AOO
is a big project in ASF (there are currently 10 proposals, and 1 is about
AOO).

As usual prices escalate as we get closer.

rbowen wrote
We will announce the schedule on July 28, but registration is open
already, and the prices are best right now. Eu799 through August 1, Eu1099
through November, and Eu1399 thereafter. Committers are always Eu275.

I look forward to see a big AOO community in budapest.

rgds
jan I.

Re: [INFO] Bugzilla process

[Tal Daniel]

On Mon, Apr 21, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 On 29/03/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:

 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue ...

 (1) What happens NOW, after a bug is created? -- Does someone review it
 and
 assign it, or should the reporter notify a mailing list, next to promote
 it? Do BugZilla Admins review the bugs?


 The Issues mailing list, see http://openoffice.apache.org/
 mailing-lists.html is notified. No humans post directly to that list,
 it's only used to collect notifications from Bugzilla. Developers routinely
 scan it.

 Bugzilla admins probably watch the notifications too, but this is not
 their role.

  (2) What happens if the reporter feels no one read or did anything with
 his
 bug report? (it happened to me a few times)


 Usually it's a matter of having patience, but you can ping the dev list if
 you feel that something should be done before the next release or is being
 neglected.


  I'd recommend extend the above mentioned paragraph with this info, and
 overview the process earlier within the Wiki page. I'll edit the wiki
 page,
 according to info I'll receive.


 Feel free to add this information there.


Thanks for in info, Andrea.
I've added this info in the wiki page, and hopefully, users will feel more
confident that someone will notice their issue, after they've created it.
See https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue#Reporting_a_New_Bug

Re: [INFO] Bugzilla process

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 29/03/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue ...
(1) What happens NOW, after a bug is created? -- Does someone review it and
assign it, or should the reporter notify a mailing list, next to promote
it? Do BugZilla Admins review the bugs?


The Issues mailing list, see 
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html is notified. No humans 
post directly to that list, it's only used to collect notifications from 
Bugzilla. Developers routinely scan it.


Bugzilla admins probably watch the notifications too, but this is not 
their role.



(2) What happens if the reporter feels no one read or did anything with his
bug report? (it happened to me a few times)


Usually it's a matter of having patience, but you can ping the dev list 
if you feel that something should be done before the next release or is 
being neglected.



I'd recommend extend the above mentioned paragraph with this info, and
overview the process earlier within the Wiki page. I'll edit the wiki page,
according to info I'll receive.


Feel free to add this information there.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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[INFO] Bugzilla process

[Tal Daniel]

A small info request, and suggestion, regarding the bug tracking process:
The How to file a good Issue [in Bugzilla] (
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue) end with this sentence:

 [...], then press Commit. Your bug report will now be in the Apache OOo
 Bugzilla database.


That's great, though...
(1) What happens NOW, after a bug is created? -- Does someone review it and
assign it, or should the reporter notify a mailing list, next to promote
it? Do BugZilla Admins review the bugs?
(2) What happens if the reporter feels no one read or did anything with his
bug report? (it happened to me a few times)

I'd recommend extend the above mentioned paragraph with this info, and
overview the process earlier within the Wiki page. I'll edit the wiki page,
according to info I'll receive.

Re: [INFO] Unofficial presentation of the AOO and Educoo projects

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 2/3/14 8:38 PM, Guy Waterval wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I knew this first journey into the world of MS users would be difficult,
 particularly in my area, but I wouldn't expect a so bad result. The
 presentation is canceled for a lack of participants. I was informed of the
 situation very late, a few days before the deadline for registration. I
 tried myself to recruit people in emergency, but in four days, it  was too
 short to inverse the tendance.
 Note that this situation is not representative and has not to be
 generalized.
 I will now try another method, without going through official channels
 but contact directly users myself and organize private and free information
 meetups to attempt to create a small users basis, because I've observed
 that most MS users are not against OpenOffice in itself, but seem to be
 more afraid about questions as changes, lack of support, to be isolated,
 etc. So, in my area, it seems there is a need to have first an intermediate
 layer of experienced users, perhaps organized in an association, between
 the project and a potential basis of users.
 So, I will try this way.

advocating OpenOffice against Ms Office is indeed no easy job and yes
the change of a comfortable work environment to a new one is not easy
for many users who simply want to do their job without bigger
preferences to one or the other program. Good luck.

Juergen


 
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Re: [INFO] Unofficial presentation of the AOO and Educoo projects

[Guy Waterval]

Hi Jürgen,

2014-02-04 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com:


 advocating OpenOffice against Ms Office is indeed no easy job and yes
 the change of a comfortable work environment to a new one is not easy
 for many users who simply want to do their job without bigger
 preferences to one or the other program. Good luck.


Thanks for your answer.

To be honest I never present AOO against MS Office, but as a complement to
MS Office, to open certain files or for a use at home, or with some
extensions, etc. I don't will push people to a radical change, especially
in sensible areas where they could have too many interoperability issues or
in case I know there is locally no structure able to support such a change.
But of course, there are areas in a company where AOO can be viewed as an
excellent alternative, without  inconvenients, and in this case, it's
certainly a good choice to suggest. For instance, I know a MS Office user
(a teacher) who uses only AOO for translations with the Anaphraseus
extension. He will perhaps never change totally  for AOO, and I have no
problem with that. But as we have in CH a lot of users with daily
translation works between French English German and Italian, I know he has
made a demand (no response up to now) for a systematic installation of
AOO+Anaphraseus near MS Office on all the PCs in the Swiss Administration.
The alternative Wordfast for MS Office is certainly more sophisticated but
costs 400 euros pro licence. Another advantage of this soft approach is
to give people an opportunity to discover AOO without stress and use it at
home if they will. Also a possible way to enlarge the basis of the users.
 For schools the situation is a little different, OOo4Kids is clearly the
solution for the primary school and AOO the best free solution for students
after 12 years. In this area a more combative attitude is suitable, I
find.

A+
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gw

Re: [INFO] Unofficial presentation of the AOO and Educoo projects

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2/3/14 8:38 PM, Guy Waterval wrote:
 Hi all,

 I knew this first journey into the world of MS users would be difficult,
 particularly in my area, but I wouldn't expect a so bad result. The
 presentation is canceled for a lack of participants. I was informed of the
 situation very late, a few days before the deadline for registration. I
 tried myself to recruit people in emergency, but in four days, it  was too
 short to inverse the tendance.
 Note that this situation is not representative and has not to be
 generalized.
 I will now try another method, without going through official channels
 but contact directly users myself and organize private and free information
 meetups to attempt to create a small users basis, because I've observed
 that most MS users are not against OpenOffice in itself, but seem to be
 more afraid about questions as changes, lack of support, to be isolated,
 etc. So, in my area, it seems there is a need to have first an intermediate
 layer of experienced users, perhaps organized in an association, between
 the project and a potential basis of users.
 So, I will try this way.

 advocating OpenOffice against Ms Office is indeed no easy job and yes
 the change of a comfortable work environment to a new one is not easy
 for many users who simply want to do their job without bigger
 preferences to one or the other program. Good luck.


From a practical perspective it is important to realize that with most
changes their are winners and losers.  Some people hate change, some
love it.   If a company is moving from Microsoft to OpenOffice, who
are the natural winners and losers:

Winners: Those who benefit from cost savings, so the owners of the
company.  Those whose departments now have extra money to spend on
other things than MS Office.  Those looking for the opportunity to
advance their careers by driving cost-saving changes.  Those who want
to demonstrate leadership by transforming the company's IT department.

Losers:   Those who fear change, disruption.  Those who identify
themselves and their competency as Microsoft Office exports and fear
that this career advantage will be lost.

The trick to adopting OpenOffice is finding your natural allies in the
organization and working with them to address the concerns of those
who fear they will lose by the change.  In the end it is possible for
everyone to win.  But you need a plan for addressing the
constituencies who will naturally fear and resist change.

Regards,

-Rob


 Juergen



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Re: [INFO] Unofficial presentation of the AOO and Educoo projects

[Guy Waterval]

Hi all,

I knew this first journey into the world of MS users would be difficult,
particularly in my area, but I wouldn't expect a so bad result. The
presentation is canceled for a lack of participants. I was informed of the
situation very late, a few days before the deadline for registration. I
tried myself to recruit people in emergency, but in four days, it  was too
short to inverse the tendance.
Note that this situation is not representative and has not to be
generalized.
I will now try another method, without going through official channels
but contact directly users myself and organize private and free information
meetups to attempt to create a small users basis, because I've observed
that most MS users are not against OpenOffice in itself, but seem to be
more afraid about questions as changes, lack of support, to be isolated,
etc. So, in my area, it seems there is a need to have first an intermediate
layer of experienced users, perhaps organized in an association, between
the project and a potential basis of users.
So, I will try this way.

A+
-- 
gw


2013-12-07 Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com:

 Hi all,

 I have the opportunity to make an unofficial presentation of the AOO and
 Educoo projects in Switzerland.

 www.softenpoche.com/sep/AOO100214.pdf

 The presentation will be held in the installations of a new AOO user :-)


 http://www.restaurant-hotel-fribourg.com/hotel-pas-cher-marly-fribourg-suisse-restaurant-italien.html

 A+
 --
 gw

[INFO] Unofficial presentation of the AOO and Educoo projects

[Guy Waterval]

Hi all,

I have the opportunity to make an unofficial presentation of the AOO and
Educoo projects in Switzerland.

www.softenpoche.com/sep/AOO100214.pdf

The presentation will be held in the installations of a new AOO user :-)

http://www.restaurant-hotel-fribourg.com/hotel-pas-cher-marly-fribourg-suisse-restaurant-italien.html

A+
-- 
gw

Re: Reg: Info about Bug

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 01/12/2013 Dhananjayan Santhanakrishnan wrote:

I wish to take up this bug and work on it. How to proceed?
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=56998


Very good! I see that hanya, who already fixed several bugs, has just 
submitted a patch or two for this one too. So I would recommend that, to 
start, you:


1) Build OpenOffice (this is done, as I assume from previous 
conversations here) and check that the bug still exists.


2) Post a comment to
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=56998
saying that you are a new developer and you will review hanya's patch as 
discussed on the dev list (you will need to register for Bugzilla).


3) Apply hanya's patches (I see two of them in the issue) to the source 
code and rebuild. In the process, actually look at hanya's patches to 
review the code.


4) Report on the bug page if the bug is solved or not.

If you have any difficulties in a step, just ask.

A note: after being dormant for weeks, issue 56998 is seeing 
(relatively) a lot of activity recently. It might happen that your work 
overlaps with other people's work in this specific case, but it's useful 
to learn anyway.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Reg: Info about Bug

[Dhananjayan Santhanakrishnan]

Hi,
I wish to take up this bug and work on it. How to proceed?

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=56998

Regards,
Dhananjayan. 

Re: Reg: Info about Bug

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Dhananjayan,

Dhananjayan Santhanakrishnan schrieb:

Hi,
I wish to take up this bug and work on it. How to proceed?

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=56998

Regards,
Dhananjayan.



You are hanya (hanya.r...@gmail.com) in Bugzilla?

When you have attached a patch you choose the flag ? for that patch. It 
will generate a mail to the dev list, with request for review.


Kind regards
Regina

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[INFO] AOO wiki and forum.

[janI]

Hi.

Just a polite information.

--- wiki.o.o ---
will be changed to https:// only after friday 1 november 16:00.

http:// will automatically redirect to https://

Test shows that everything will work, but users get warnings due to mixed
https:// http:// pages. As described earlier this is something that can
easily be changed at database level by the admins.

The service interruption should be  1 minute.

--- forum.o.o ---
will be changed to https:// after friday 1 november 16:00

http:// will automatically redirect to https://

In case of unexpected problems (see test above), https:// and http:// will
be running in parallel, and the redirect will be made next weekend (8
november).

The service interruption should be  10 minutes a couple of times for each
forum.

We will keep status.a.o updated

On behalf of infra
jan I.

[INFO] AOO Wiki and forum

[janI]

Hi

Just a polite info, about the infra work starting friday 1 november 16:00.

--- wiki.a.o ---
will be changed to https:// only.

http:// will be redirected automatically to https://

Test shows that everything works, but users get warnings about mixed
https:// http:// pages. The mixing is due to use of src=http:// and
href=http:// in the anchor and image tags. As described earlier an admin
can easy make the needed changes at database level.

Service interruption is expected to be  1 minute.


--- forum.a.o. ---
will be changed to https:// only.

http:// will be redirected automatically to https://

In case of unexpected problems (see test above), The http:// redirect will
not be done allowing http:// and https:// to work in parallel.

Service interruption is expected to be  10 minute a couple of times for
each forum.

status.a.o will be updated when work begins.

On behalf of the infrastructure team
jan I.

Re: [INFO] AOO wiki and forum.

[Alexandro Colorado]

I assume time is in UTC...


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:03 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi.

 Just a polite information.

 --- wiki.o.o ---
 will be changed to https:// only after friday 1 november 16:00.

 http:// will automatically redirect to https://

 Test shows that everything will work, but users get warnings due to mixed
 https:// http:// pages. As described earlier this is something that can
 easily be changed at database level by the admins.

 The service interruption should be  1 minute.

 --- forum.o.o ---
 will be changed to https:// after friday 1 november 16:00

 http:// will automatically redirect to https://

 In case of unexpected problems (see test above), https:// and http:// will
 be running in parallel, and the redirect will be made next weekend (8
 november).

 The service interruption should be  10 minutes a couple of times for each
 forum.

 We will keep status.a.o updated

 On behalf of infra
 jan I.




-- 
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://www.openoffice.org
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Re: conversion info

[Kay Schenk]

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Lockton vide...@telus.net wrote:

 Hi...

 I recently came across documents written in Corel WP7... with .DOC
 extension

 How can I convert into Open Office ... ver 3 or 4

 Thanking you in advance

 Barrie Lockton


There is quite a long discussion on this on the Forums:

http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=53916

You may want to check that out for options.



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 to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't.
 -- Following the Equator, Mark Twain

[INFO] Apache OpenOffice at LinuxDay 2013 Dornbirn AT

[Raphael Bircher]

Hi at all

Apache OpenOffice will be at the Linux Day at Dornbirn (Austria) We will 
have a Stand there. The Linux Day Dornbirn is a small event with about 
500 Visitors. It is at 23th November 2013. The organisation runns 
moastly over the german ML and private mails.


People involved:
-Detlef Nannen (Translator and Tester)
-Raphael Bircher

The Event is more or less a german speaching event.

Butget: not needed.

Greetings Raphael

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Re: in build, where can I find info about external packs that have been used

[Andrea Pescetti]

Regina Henschel wrote:

I have removed part hsqldb/readme.txt from i121754.patch and now hsqldb
is build.


Very good, thanks. There is some dangerous mix of whitespaces and 
newlines there (upgrade HSQLDB 1.8.0.10 - 11, which is tagged but not 
officially released) and it might be that patch gets confused on some 
systems. If you haven't already done so, please fix it in trunk too and 
put a short comment on 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121754 saying that you had 
to fix it since the patch didn't apply on Windows.


Of course, removing the part of the patch that applies to readme.txt 
does not have any practical consequence.


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  Andrea.

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Re: in build, where can I find info about external packs that have been used

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Andrea,

Andrea Pescetti schrieb:

Regina Henschel wrote:

I have removed part hsqldb/readme.txt from i121754.patch and now hsqldb
is build.


Very good, thanks. There is some dangerous mix of whitespaces and
newlines there (upgrade HSQLDB 1.8.0.10 - 11, which is tagged but not
officially released) and it might be that patch gets confused on some
systems. If you haven't already done so, please fix it in trunk too


I cannot fix it on trunk now. I'm struggling with git and something 
wrong would go to trunk.


 and

put a short comment on
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121754 saying that you had
to fix it since the patch didn't apply on Windows.


I have added a plain patch to the issue to show what needs to be removed.




Of course, removing the part of the patch that applies to readme.txt
does not have any practical consequence.



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Re: in build, where can I find info about external packs that have been used

[Andrea Pescetti]

Kay Schenk wrote:

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org  wrote:

main/external_deps.lst
and are downloaded by ./bootstrap into the
ext_sources
directory.

OK, I think I was not clear here. I know the ext_sources directory is part
of our SVN tree.


The directory is in SVN, but most of its contents are downloaded at 
build time. If you run svn status there, you'll see the files downloaded 
by ./bootstrap (in compressed form). Uncompressed files are found in 
main/MODULENAME, so hsqldb sources, for example, get uncompressed and 
patched in subfolders of main/hsqldb. You can find information about 
this in the module's makefile.


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Re: in build, where can I find info about external packs that have been used

[Herbert Duerr]

On 08.07.2013 00:22, Kay Schenk wrote:

What I want to know is how can I see what was produced when the  ext_source
actually got brought in to the build. Should the packs show up somewhere in
the solver tree when they're actually downloaded and built or setup? Like
some staging area for them? Or, let me know if this question just isn't
making any sense.


The external sources are unpacked and patched in the project's own 
output directory. E.g. external hyphen source is processed in

  main/hyphen/${INPATH}/misc/build/hyphen-2.7.1/
with ${INPATH} being system dependent, e.g. wntmsci12.pro on Windows.

Herbert

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Re: in build, where can I find info about external packs that have been used

[Kay Schenk]

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote:

 On 08.07.2013 00:22, Kay Schenk wrote:

 What I want to know is how can I see what was produced when the
  ext_source
 actually got brought in to the build. Should the packs show up somewhere
 in
 the solver tree when they're actually downloaded and built or setup?
 Like
 some staging area for them? Or, let me know if this question just isn't
 making any sense.


 The external sources are unpacked and patched in the project's own output
 directory. E.g. external hyphen source is processed in
   main/hyphen/${INPATH}/misc/**build/hyphen-2.7.1/
 with ${INPATH} being system dependent, e.g. wntmsci12.pro on Windows.

 Herbert


OK, thanks. This helps quite a bit. My assessment at this point is that
hsqldb did not get built at all and thus the error. I have an updated ant
and different jre since the last time I did this, so I will investigate
further.



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Re: in build, where can I find info about external packs that have been used

[Regina Henschel]

Hi,

Kay Schenk schrieb:

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote:


On 08.07.2013 00:22, Kay Schenk wrote:


What I want to know is how can I see what was produced when the
  ext_source
actually got brought in to the build. Should the packs show up somewhere
in
the solver tree when they're actually downloaded and built or setup?
Like
some staging area for them? Or, let me know if this question just isn't
making any sense.



The external sources are unpacked and patched in the project's own output
directory. E.g. external hyphen source is processed in
   main/hyphen/${INPATH}/misc/**build/hyphen-2.7.1/
with ${INPATH} being system dependent, e.g. wntmsci12.pro on Windows.

Herbert



OK, thanks. This helps quite a bit. My assessment at this point is that
hsqldb did not get built at all and thus the error. I have an updated ant
and different jre since the last time I did this, so I will investigate
further.


I have trouble with hsqldb too. I tried to build current master and get 
this error

patching file hsqldb/readme.txt
Hunk #1 FAILED at 1.
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file hsqldb/readme.txt.rej

And a lot of other failed patching following.

It is a clean build, starting with rebase and newly ./bootstrap. I use 
MSVC 2008 express on Windows 7.


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Re: in build, where can I find info about external packs that have been used

[Regina Henschel]

Hi,

Regina Henschel schrieb:

Hi,

Kay Schenk schrieb:

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote:


On 08.07.2013 00:22, Kay Schenk wrote:


What I want to know is how can I see what was produced when the
  ext_source
actually got brought in to the build. Should the packs show up
somewhere
in
the solver tree when they're actually downloaded and built or setup?
Like
some staging area for them? Or, let me know if this question just isn't
making any sense.



The external sources are unpacked and patched in the project's own
output
directory. E.g. external hyphen source is processed in
   main/hyphen/${INPATH}/misc/**build/hyphen-2.7.1/
with ${INPATH} being system dependent, e.g. wntmsci12.pro on Windows.

Herbert



OK, thanks. This helps quite a bit. My assessment at this point is that
hsqldb did not get built at all and thus the error. I have an updated
ant
and different jre since the last time I did this, so I will investigate
further.


I have trouble with hsqldb too. I tried to build current master and get
this error
patching file hsqldb/readme.txt
Hunk #1 FAILED at 1.
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file hsqldb/readme.txt.rej

And a lot of other failed patching following.

It is a clean build, starting with rebase and newly ./bootstrap. I use
MSVC 2008 express on Windows 7.


I have removed part hsqldb/readme.txt from i121754.patch and now hsqldb 
is build.


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Regina


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Re: in build, where can I find info about external packs that have been used

[Kay Schenk]

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote:

 Hi,

 Regina Henschel schrieb:

  Hi,

 Kay Schenk schrieb:

 On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote:

  On 08.07.2013 00:22, Kay Schenk wrote:

  What I want to know is how can I see what was produced when the
   ext_source
 actually got brought in to the build. Should the packs show up
 somewhere
 in
 the solver tree when they're actually downloaded and built or setup?
 Like
 some staging area for them? Or, let me know if this question just isn't
 making any sense.


 The external sources are unpacked and patched in the project's own
 output
 directory. E.g. external hyphen source is processed in
main/hyphen/${INPATH}/misc/build/hyphen-2.7.1/
 with ${INPATH} being system dependent, e.g. wntmsci12.pro on Windows.

 Herbert


  OK, thanks. This helps quite a bit. My assessment at this point is that
 hsqldb did not get built at all and thus the error. I have an updated
 ant
 and different jre since the last time I did this, so I will investigate
 further.


 I have trouble with hsqldb too. I tried to build current master and get
 this error
 patching file hsqldb/readme.txt
 Hunk #1 FAILED at 1.
 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file hsqldb/readme.txt.rej

 And a lot of other failed patching following.

 It is a clean build, starting with rebase and newly ./bootstrap. I use
 MSVC 2008 express on Windows 7.


 I have removed part hsqldb/readme.txt from i121754.patch and now hsqldb is
 build.


 Kind regards
 Regina


Regina -- how curious, but thanks for the hint! I will try this. In truth,
I started up this build, command line in Linux,  and went off to do
something else for a few hours. When I got back, I got all the errors re
the QA build failing, but, well, I guess the hslqdb stuff has scrolled off.
Yet, why wouldn't it have just stopped there? Ok, I'm relatively new at
this -- so much to learn.



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Re: in build, where can I find info about external packs that have been used

[Andrea Pescetti]

Kay Schenk wrote:

Where can I find information on what external
packs have been pulled in?


External dependencies are listed in
main/external_deps.lst
and are downloaded by ./bootstrap into the
ext_sources
directory.

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Re: in build, where can I find info about external packs that have been used

[Kay Schenk]

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 Kay Schenk wrote:

 Where can I find information on what external
 packs have been pulled in?


 External dependencies are listed in
 main/external_deps.lst
 and are downloaded by ./bootstrap into the
 ext_sources
 directory.

 Regards,
   Andrea.


OK, I think I was not clear here. I know the ext_sources directory is part
of our SVN tree.

What I want to know is how can I see what was produced when the  ext_source
actually got brought in to the build. Should the packs show up somewhere in
the solver tree when they're actually downloaded and built or setup? Like
some staging area for them? Or, let me know if this question just isn't
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Re: INFO: I will be offline for 4 days and will come up with a updated pr new proposed release schedule next week

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INFO: I will be offline for 4 days and will come up with a updated pr new proposed release schedule next week

[Jürgen Schmidt]

Hi,

just to inform you that I will be off  line and not available for the
next 4 days.

Next week I will concentrate on getting a clear overview where we are
with AOO 4.0 and will propose a new release schedule for review.


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INFO: OpenOffice help authoring

[Jürgen Schmidt]

Hi,

I tried to find some info (thanks to Ariel for some additional pointers)
about our help format and the help authoring tooling. If somebody has
the time and interest to dive deeper in this material here are the
pointers I have so far.

http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/online_help/

http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/online_help/OOo2HelpAuthoring.pdf

As mentioned earlier I have also investigated in the helpauthoring
extension that is probably useful to maintain and/or create help files.

A version (including the template) can be found under
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/helpauthoring.oxt


Nevertheless should we start thinking about a replacement and using a
real online help as preferred solution. And an offline help version as
optional download... Something like that, it would reduce the install
package a lot


Juergen

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