Re: New Features and Enhancements video

2013-08-08 Thread Drew Jensen
Howdy folks,

Well, kind of a long 2-3 days..

I've done some work on content creation, but right now wanted to look
firstly at an overall focus and appropriate motif/themes for the project.

Following are the beginning of that work - I have a free weekend coming up
and plan to have the first real draft of the two documents finished by
Monday - along with some examples of how to apply the motif and themes.

So - if folks want to comment on what is here, great, but you may like to
hold off till I post up the finished first draft and examples.

Media Library Overview
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IaXRTUHpCQURGTEE

Media Library Motif/themes
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0Ia3VBQU9RUDJkdWs


One of the over arching goals of this is to put in a place a defined set of
artifacts and work process so that collaboration can easily take place, for
example.
Volunteers can focus on content creation, without much if any concern on
branding as the content would then be 'wrapped' into the branding by
applying a theme and defined final presentation layout.

The motif should also work for content such as video from conference
presentations, use with video conferencing systems such as Google Hangouts
and in the examples on Monday it will address the Google Hangouts use
directly.

Final note, when you look at the second document don't get too wrapped up
with the secondary graphics, mostly it's just working out layout rules and
the like.

I will be back on-line again then on Monday, or possibly Tuesday next week,
but no later then that.

//drew



On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 8/2/13 10:30 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
  On 30/07/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:
  I've been plowing ahead with my ideas here; not just as a single
 activity
  to produce one or two videos but rather to start a framework for a
  project
  multi-media resources library, from which multiple videos, for multiple
  purposes, would be generated. It could also be used to generate themed
  artifacts for fliers/presentations/artwork(wallpapers, etc) that tie in
  with these videos.
 
  This is a great idea. The project can surely use better marketing
  materials, be it video chunks, screenshots, images, nice documents that
  show the new features...

 I agree it's a good idea and I had the same ... But I wasn't able to
 finish my tests in time for the 4.0 release.

 But in general I think we should establish our own YouTube channel where
 we provide screencasts and other media files on a regular basis.

 Important is that we use a common framework and Drew started in this
 direction already.

 We need a common credit section for the end of all media files, with
 some community info, links, donation info etc.

 A common intro section would also make sense, or maybe a collection of
 1-5 different including seasonal ones like a Christmas branded intro or so.

 Screencast are better than a slideshow, at least if possible we should
 trz to produce short screencast sections based on a script. And ideally
 a native speaker with a good voice can provide a related spoken
 explanation to the screencast (Drew's voice sounds well to me).

 
  For the 'community' category - These pieces:
  CommunityBeforeCode_loop.mp4, suitable for use at a show table running
  on a
  laptop, voice over, no musical background - notice I did not tag this
  with
  a license.
  AOO4_HotTamaleBaby.mp4 and hottamale.mp4 take that basic loop and add a
  little party music.
 
  The result is nice, but the music covers the voice at times. Also, I
  would keep links very simple, so not openoffice.apache.org and not the
  full URL to the inner pages. I think it's Community over code and not
  before code. For the rest, it's impressive to see how the single
  chunks can be rearranged to target different use cases. The voiceover is
  good and clear.

 we can have both music sections (with hopefully different music ;-)) and
 voice over sections where a clear voice give explanations.

 
  So, my vision would be to at the end deliver, somehow, for the
  projects use
  an ISO with all the files used to produce the works, this would
  include the
  OpenShot and Pitivi (and other) project files, it would include some
  instructions (which we would build as we do this) on how to make use
  of the
  material.
 
  This would be perfect. At the moment we don't have many OpenOffice 4
  specific materials, so any well-done videos/graphics are welcome.

 yes and with some more experience it should be really fun to produce
 stuff like this ... I tried to play with iMovie on my Mac (see my very
 first attempts http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/AOO40_Test.mov) and I
 just played around a bit...

 Juergen



  What I would hope could be done, if the good folks at source forge are
  willing which I expect hey would be, is to generate a small and changing
  over time set of videos and have these dished out to users in round
 robin
  fashion.
 
  This 

Re: New Features and Enhancements video

2013-08-08 Thread Drew Jensen
Well - two posts again...

I wasn't going to send this along today, but since I'm here and can..

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IVmxqNUR0VjlpUTg/edit?usp=sharing

It might make sense with the two documents above...don't get too lost in
the weeds with anything in that last collection of files - it WILL be
replaced on Monday.

//drew


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote:

 Howdy folks,

 Well, kind of a long 2-3 days..

 I've done some work on content creation, but right now wanted to look
 firstly at an overall focus and appropriate motif/themes for the project.

 Following are the beginning of that work - I have a free weekend coming up
 and plan to have the first real draft of the two documents finished by
 Monday - along with some examples of how to apply the motif and themes.

 So - if folks want to comment on what is here, great, but you may like to
 hold off till I post up the finished first draft and examples.

 Media Library Overview
 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IaXRTUHpCQURGTEE

 Media Library Motif/themes
 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0Ia3VBQU9RUDJkdWs


 One of the over arching goals of this is to put in a place a defined set
 of artifacts and work process so that collaboration can easily take place,
 for example.
 Volunteers can focus on content creation, without much if any concern on
 branding as the content would then be 'wrapped' into the branding by
 applying a theme and defined final presentation layout.

 The motif should also work for content such as video from conference
 presentations, use with video conferencing systems such as Google Hangouts
 and in the examples on Monday it will address the Google Hangouts use
 directly.

 Final note, when you look at the second document don't get too wrapped up
 with the secondary graphics, mostly it's just working out layout rules and
 the like.

 I will be back on-line again then on Monday, or possibly Tuesday next
 week, but no later then that.

 //drew



 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 8/2/13 10:30 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
  On 30/07/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:
  I've been plowing ahead with my ideas here; not just as a single
 activity
  to produce one or two videos but rather to start a framework for a
  project
  multi-media resources library, from which multiple videos, for multiple
  purposes, would be generated. It could also be used to generate themed
  artifacts for fliers/presentations/artwork(wallpapers, etc) that tie in
  with these videos.
 
  This is a great idea. The project can surely use better marketing
  materials, be it video chunks, screenshots, images, nice documents that
  show the new features...

 I agree it's a good idea and I had the same ... But I wasn't able to
 finish my tests in time for the 4.0 release.

 But in general I think we should establish our own YouTube channel where
 we provide screencasts and other media files on a regular basis.

 Important is that we use a common framework and Drew started in this
 direction already.

 We need a common credit section for the end of all media files, with
 some community info, links, donation info etc.

 A common intro section would also make sense, or maybe a collection of
 1-5 different including seasonal ones like a Christmas branded intro or
 so.

 Screencast are better than a slideshow, at least if possible we should
 trz to produce short screencast sections based on a script. And ideally
 a native speaker with a good voice can provide a related spoken
 explanation to the screencast (Drew's voice sounds well to me).

 
  For the 'community' category - These pieces:
  CommunityBeforeCode_loop.mp4, suitable for use at a show table running
  on a
  laptop, voice over, no musical background - notice I did not tag this
  with
  a license.
  AOO4_HotTamaleBaby.mp4 and hottamale.mp4 take that basic loop and add a
  little party music.
 
  The result is nice, but the music covers the voice at times. Also, I
  would keep links very simple, so not openoffice.apache.org and not the
  full URL to the inner pages. I think it's Community over code and not
  before code. For the rest, it's impressive to see how the single
  chunks can be rearranged to target different use cases. The voiceover is
  good and clear.

 we can have both music sections (with hopefully different music ;-)) and
 voice over sections where a clear voice give explanations.

 
  So, my vision would be to at the end deliver, somehow, for the
  projects use
  an ISO with all the files used to produce the works, this would
  include the
  OpenShot and Pitivi (and other) project files, it would include some
  instructions (which we would build as we do this) on how to make use
  of the
  material.
 
  This would be perfect. At the moment we don't have many OpenOffice 4
  specific materials, so any well-done videos/graphics are welcome.

 yes and with some more experience it should 

Re: New Features and Enhancements video

2013-08-05 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/2/13 10:30 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 On 30/07/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:
 I've been plowing ahead with my ideas here; not just as a single activity
 to produce one or two videos but rather to start a framework for a
 project
 multi-media resources library, from which multiple videos, for multiple
 purposes, would be generated. It could also be used to generate themed
 artifacts for fliers/presentations/artwork(wallpapers, etc) that tie in
 with these videos.
 
 This is a great idea. The project can surely use better marketing
 materials, be it video chunks, screenshots, images, nice documents that
 show the new features...

I agree it's a good idea and I had the same ... But I wasn't able to
finish my tests in time for the 4.0 release.

But in general I think we should establish our own YouTube channel where
we provide screencasts and other media files on a regular basis.

Important is that we use a common framework and Drew started in this
direction already.

We need a common credit section for the end of all media files, with
some community info, links, donation info etc.

A common intro section would also make sense, or maybe a collection of
1-5 different including seasonal ones like a Christmas branded intro or so.

Screencast are better than a slideshow, at least if possible we should
trz to produce short screencast sections based on a script. And ideally
a native speaker with a good voice can provide a related spoken
explanation to the screencast (Drew's voice sounds well to me).

 
 For the 'community' category - These pieces:
 CommunityBeforeCode_loop.mp4, suitable for use at a show table running
 on a
 laptop, voice over, no musical background - notice I did not tag this
 with
 a license.
 AOO4_HotTamaleBaby.mp4 and hottamale.mp4 take that basic loop and add a
 little party music.
 
 The result is nice, but the music covers the voice at times. Also, I
 would keep links very simple, so not openoffice.apache.org and not the
 full URL to the inner pages. I think it's Community over code and not
 before code. For the rest, it's impressive to see how the single
 chunks can be rearranged to target different use cases. The voiceover is
 good and clear.

we can have both music sections (with hopefully different music ;-)) and
voice over sections where a clear voice give explanations.

 
 So, my vision would be to at the end deliver, somehow, for the
 projects use
 an ISO with all the files used to produce the works, this would
 include the
 OpenShot and Pitivi (and other) project files, it would include some
 instructions (which we would build as we do this) on how to make use
 of the
 material.
 
 This would be perfect. At the moment we don't have many OpenOffice 4
 specific materials, so any well-done videos/graphics are welcome.

yes and with some more experience it should be really fun to produce
stuff like this ... I tried to play with iMovie on my Mac (see my very
first attempts http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/AOO40_Test.mov) and I
just played around a bit...

Juergen



 What I would hope could be done, if the good folks at source forge are
 willing which I expect hey would be, is to generate a small and changing
 over time set of videos and have these dished out to users in round robin
 fashion.
 
 This is stuff that we could also use on the main openoffice.org website,
 not only on the download site.
 
 Regards,
   Andrea.
 
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Re: New Features and Enhancements video

2013-08-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 30/07/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:

I've been plowing ahead with my ideas here; not just as a single activity
to produce one or two videos but rather to start a framework for a project
multi-media resources library, from which multiple videos, for multiple
purposes, would be generated. It could also be used to generate themed
artifacts for fliers/presentations/artwork(wallpapers, etc) that tie in
with these videos.


This is a great idea. The project can surely use better marketing 
materials, be it video chunks, screenshots, images, nice documents that 
show the new features...



For the 'community' category - These pieces:
CommunityBeforeCode_loop.mp4, suitable for use at a show table running on a
laptop, voice over, no musical background - notice I did not tag this with
a license.
AOO4_HotTamaleBaby.mp4 and hottamale.mp4 take that basic loop and add a
little party music.


The result is nice, but the music covers the voice at times. Also, I 
would keep links very simple, so not openoffice.apache.org and not the 
full URL to the inner pages. I think it's Community over code and not 
before code. For the rest, it's impressive to see how the single 
chunks can be rearranged to target different use cases. The voiceover is 
good and clear.



So, my vision would be to at the end deliver, somehow, for the projects use
an ISO with all the files used to produce the works, this would include the
OpenShot and Pitivi (and other) project files, it would include some
instructions (which we would build as we do this) on how to make use of the
material.


This would be perfect. At the moment we don't have many OpenOffice 4 
specific materials, so any well-done videos/graphics are welcome.



What I would hope could be done, if the good folks at source forge are
willing which I expect hey would be, is to generate a small and changing
over time set of videos and have these dished out to users in round robin
fashion.


This is stuff that we could also use on the main openoffice.org website, 
not only on the download site.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: New Features and Enhancements video

2013-07-30 Thread Drew Jensen
Howdy,

Well, I'be not had a chance to read any mail, after my last message, before
writing this so if it seems like I've missed something already mentioned
that would be the reason.

I've been plowing ahead with my ideas here; not just as a single activity
to produce one or two videos but rather to start a framework for a project
multi-media resources library, from which multiple videos, for multiple
purposes, would be generated. It could also be used to generate themed
artifacts for fliers/presentations/artwork(wallpapers, etc) that tie in
with these videos.

The key is to generate small chunks, of high quality, which can then be
used to mix final works.

By way of example I've uploaded a zip file at:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0ISV9GcjY5M1l1TTA

with the following files:

July30/Chunks
- AOO4_default_blk.mp4 and AOO4_default_white.mp4 are (should be, more on
that later) used as consistent backgrounds in other chunks

- WelcomeUsers.mp4, NewLogo.mp4, CommunityActivities.mp4,
CommunityActivities.mp4 where created as a reshaping of the wiki features
and enhancements page.
- Each video includes a voice over (almost) and there is an associated text
file with transcript of same.

For the initial finished product I had in mind three category of video and
one physical video for each category.
The categories I had in mind are

Flowers - as in 'Congrats on the new birth' - short, punchy and could
supply the ending of the other videos to tie them together and for re-use
efficiencies.

Community - The apache way, recruiting, etc.

Features - about the product  or services offered by the community.


Alright, so I already turned in a 'flowers' type video last week [and since
no one else has said it, a not so good one] but do not consider that the
final work.

For the 'community' category - These pieces:
CommunityBeforeCode_loop.mp4, suitable for use at a show table running on a
laptop, voice over, no musical background - notice I did not tag this with
a license.
AOO4_HotTamaleBaby.mp4 and hottamale.mp4 take that basic loop and add a
little party music.

For the 'features' category - These:
NewFeaturesAndEnhancements_loop.mp4 - again, voice over only, note no
license
AOO_Features_Waltz.mp4, add a nice sound track and pickup my license tag,
notice I said MY license tag, I think that is the best way to approach
these pieces with CC license material - but that is a subject needing some
thought gong forward.

In the graphics directory, well, graphics files ;) - some descriptions to
follow.

So, my vision would be to at the end deliver, somehow, for the projects use
an ISO with all the files used to produce the works, this would include the
OpenShot and Pitivi (and other) project files, it would include some
instructions (which we would build as we do this) on how to make use of the
material.

What I would hope could be done, if the good folks at source forge are
willing which I expect hey would be, is to generate a small and changing
over time set of videos and have these dished out to users in round robin
fashion.

There is a fair bit here to consider, I'm aware, and I will end this mail
here. I should be picking up mail again in 2 or 3 days and will also have
an update to the files.

Best wishes,

//drew







On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote:

 On 25/07/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:

 https://docs.google.com/file/**d/**0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUWt5cnUxQ3JNbnM/**
 edit?usp=sharinghttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUWt5cnUxQ3JNbnM/edit?usp=sharing
 There is an opening 8 seconds with the logo on a non-white background:
 1 - is that acceptable
 2 - is the ASF tag line acceptable


 I think that both are acceptable, but there's no need to display trademark
 attribution for all the length of the video. It will be enough to have them
 in the closing credits, maybe with the longer version that is in the
 http://www.openoffice.org/ page footer.


  Then there is what would be the body of the piece - a full white
 background, as this logo really doesn't work to well otherwise it seems to
 me.
 1 - I assume the logo is not an issue here, but thought I'd double check.
 2 - I changed the ASF tagline to blue, as you can see
 2a - I wonder if I may drop that (the ASF tagline) on the body frames,
 leaving it on the opening and then bringing it back for the credits at the
 end, as I will include sub-titles with this piece (in English) and that
 space would be the place for these to display of course.


 Yes, it is just visual noise to keep it visible for all the video.


  Anyway, that is enough for now and to get things started.


 It's a good start!

 Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: New Features and Enhancements video

2013-07-30 Thread Drew Jensen
OOPS - double post -

Just to be clear, the zip file I uploaded today contains nothing that
should be considered done - there are lots of issues needing addressed on
each before they are ready for use - well, enough to keep a guy busy for a
week, at least ;)

Please, feel to free to comment on any CHUNK or LOOP file, these are the,
IMO, core artifacts on which all he fun stuff hangs.

Adios


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote:

 Howdy,

 Well, I'be not had a chance to read any mail, after my last message,
 before writing this so if it seems like I've missed something already
 mentioned that would be the reason.

 I've been plowing ahead with my ideas here; not just as a single activity
 to produce one or two videos but rather to start a framework for a project
 multi-media resources library, from which multiple videos, for multiple
 purposes, would be generated. It could also be used to generate themed
 artifacts for fliers/presentations/artwork(wallpapers, etc) that tie in
 with these videos.

 The key is to generate small chunks, of high quality, which can then be
 used to mix final works.

 By way of example I've uploaded a zip file at:

 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0ISV9GcjY5M1l1TTA

 with the following files:

 July30/Chunks
 - AOO4_default_blk.mp4 and AOO4_default_white.mp4 are (should be, more on
 that later) used as consistent backgrounds in other chunks

 - WelcomeUsers.mp4, NewLogo.mp4, CommunityActivities.mp4,
 CommunityActivities.mp4 where created as a reshaping of the wiki features
 and enhancements page.
 - Each video includes a voice over (almost) and there is an associated
 text file with transcript of same.

 For the initial finished product I had in mind three category of video and
 one physical video for each category.
 The categories I had in mind are

 Flowers - as in 'Congrats on the new birth' - short, punchy and could
 supply the ending of the other videos to tie them together and for re-use
 efficiencies.

 Community - The apache way, recruiting, etc.

 Features - about the product  or services offered by the community.


 Alright, so I already turned in a 'flowers' type video last week [and
 since no one else has said it, a not so good one] but do not consider that
 the final work.

 For the 'community' category - These pieces:
 CommunityBeforeCode_loop.mp4, suitable for use at a show table running on
 a laptop, voice over, no musical background - notice I did not tag this
 with a license.
 AOO4_HotTamaleBaby.mp4 and hottamale.mp4 take that basic loop and add a
 little party music.

 For the 'features' category - These:
 NewFeaturesAndEnhancements_loop.mp4 - again, voice over only, note no
 license
 AOO_Features_Waltz.mp4, add a nice sound track and pickup my license tag,
 notice I said MY license tag, I think that is the best way to approach
 these pieces with CC license material - but that is a subject needing some
 thought gong forward.

 In the graphics directory, well, graphics files ;) - some descriptions to
 follow.

 So, my vision would be to at the end deliver, somehow, for the projects
 use an ISO with all the files used to produce the works, this would include
 the OpenShot and Pitivi (and other) project files, it would include some
 instructions (which we would build as we do this) on how to make use of the
 material.

 What I would hope could be done, if the good folks at source forge are
 willing which I expect hey would be, is to generate a small and changing
 over time set of videos and have these dished out to users in round robin
 fashion.

 There is a fair bit here to consider, I'm aware, and I will end this mail
 here. I should be picking up mail again in 2 or 3 days and will also have
 an update to the files.

 Best wishes,

 //drew







 On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote:

 On 25/07/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:

 https://docs.google.com/file/**d/**0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUWt5cnUxQ3JNbnM/**
 edit?usp=sharinghttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUWt5cnUxQ3JNbnM/edit?usp=sharing
 There is an opening 8 seconds with the logo on a non-white background:
 1 - is that acceptable
 2 - is the ASF tag line acceptable


 I think that both are acceptable, but there's no need to display
 trademark attribution for all the length of the video. It will be enough to
 have them in the closing credits, maybe with the longer version that is in
 the http://www.openoffice.org/ page footer.


  Then there is what would be the body of the piece - a full white
 background, as this logo really doesn't work to well otherwise it seems
 to
 me.
 1 - I assume the logo is not an issue here, but thought I'd double check.
 2 - I changed the ASF tagline to blue, as you can see
 2a - I wonder if I may drop that (the ASF tagline) on the body frames,
 leaving it on the opening and then bringing it back for the credits at
 the
 end, as I will include sub-titles with this piece (in English) and that
 space 

Re: New Features and Enhancements video

2013-07-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 25/07/2013 Drew Jensen wrote:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUWt5cnUxQ3JNbnM/edit?usp=sharing
There is an opening 8 seconds with the logo on a non-white background:
1 - is that acceptable
2 - is the ASF tag line acceptable


I think that both are acceptable, but there's no need to display 
trademark attribution for all the length of the video. It will be enough 
to have them in the closing credits, maybe with the longer version that 
is in the http://www.openoffice.org/ page footer.



Then there is what would be the body of the piece - a full white
background, as this logo really doesn't work to well otherwise it seems to
me.
1 - I assume the logo is not an issue here, but thought I'd double check.
2 - I changed the ASF tagline to blue, as you can see
2a - I wonder if I may drop that (the ASF tagline) on the body frames,
leaving it on the opening and then bringing it back for the credits at the
end, as I will include sub-titles with this piece (in English) and that
space would be the place for these to display of course.


Yes, it is just visual noise to keep it visible for all the video.


Anyway, that is enough for now and to get things started.


It's a good start!

Regards,
  Andrea.

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New Features and Enhancements video

2013-07-25 Thread Drew Jensen
Howdy,

Well, I decided that I could go ahead and let DARPA-NET have another bite
at me today, rather then waiting for next week, so took a little walk into
town.

That and I wanted to cover the basic template first.

Here is an example of what I mean.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx7ZNEXlmR0IUWt5cnUxQ3JNbnM/edit?usp=sharing

There is an opening 8 seconds with the logo on a non-white background:
1 - is that acceptable
2 - is the ASF tag line acceptable

Then there is what would be the body of the piece - a full white
background, as this logo really doesn't work to well otherwise it seems to
me.
1 - I assume the logo is not an issue here, but thought I'd double check.
2 - I changed the ASF tagline to blue, as you can see
2a - I wonder if I may drop that (the ASF tagline) on the body frames,
leaving it on the opening and then bringing it back for the credits at the
end, as I will include sub-titles with this piece (in English) and that
space would be the place for these to display of course.

Anyway, that is enough for now and to get things started.

Ok - this time it will be a few days before I will be able to get back to
folks..

Thanks

//drew