Re: Problem With Open Office and Windows 11 /11 Pro.

2024-02-14 Thread Czesław Wolański
Hi All,

On 2024/02/14 15:43:08 Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Funny fact:
> 
> I have two machines with Windows 11 (22H2 and 23H2 Insider Preview) and 
> both do not have the option for "Suggested Actions".
> 
> I only have "Clipboard History" and see no problems with AOO 4.1.15, 
> when enabled.

According to [1]:
"The suggested actions feature is currently only available in North America."

I don't see it in other UI: (en-GB), (de), (fr) or (pl) - cf. [2]


Regards,
Czesław

[1] "Use suggested actions on your PC"
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/use-suggested-actions-on-your-pc-486c0527-3395-4b40-b304-f1e3cbe2f404

[2]
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c8ktISu1x-gN0EqjGKIvbCRFw6XJgBwg/view?usp=sharing




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Re: Problem With Open Office and Windows 11 /11 Pro.

2024-02-14 Thread Matthias Seidel

Funny fact:

I have two machines with Windows 11 (22H2 and 23H2 Insider Preview) and 
both do not have the option for "Suggested Actions".


I only have "Clipboard History" and see no problems with AOO 4.1.15, 
when enabled.


Matthias

Am 13.02.24 um 18:40 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Hi Damjan,

Am 13.02.24 um 16:56 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 3:12 PM Matthias Seidel 


wrote:


Hi Francis, All,

Am 12.02.24 um 17:00 schrieb F Campos Costero:

Hi Don,
There are several posts on the user forum about similar problems. For
example

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=536089#p536089

The suggested solution is:
" Windows 11 has a new Clipboard Manager - go to Start > Settings, 
Click

Clipboard on the System tab and turn off *Suggested Actions*; if that
doesn't help, try turning off *Clipboard History"*
Please let us know if that works.

Yes, this seems to be a common problem on Windows, we have a lot of
complaints in the Microsoft Store about Calc being unstable.

@All: Anyone who has an idea how to fix this problem?



I think Firefox was also experiencing this and they fixed it:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-hangs-when-copying-suggested-actions-windows-11 



Unfortunately their bug report is very long:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1774285

Possibly this was the fix, which calls OleFlushClipboard() after setting
the clipboard contents:
https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com/D160646


Thank you (again) for your valuable expertise!

Interesting that we are not alone with that problem... ;-)

I think it would be great to fix it, as the majority of our users are 
on Windows and the number of Windows 11 users is increasing.


Regards,

   Matthias



Regards
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Re: Problem With Open Office and Windows 11 /11 Pro.

2024-02-13 Thread Matthias Seidel

Hi Damjan,

Am 13.02.24 um 16:56 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 3:12 PM Matthias Seidel 
wrote:


Hi Francis, All,

Am 12.02.24 um 17:00 schrieb F Campos Costero:

Hi Don,
There are several posts on the user forum about similar problems. For
example

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=536089#p536089

The suggested solution is:
" Windows 11 has a new Clipboard Manager - go to Start > Settings, Click
Clipboard on the System tab and turn off *Suggested Actions*; if that
doesn't help, try turning off *Clipboard History"*
Please let us know if that works.

Yes, this seems to be a common problem on Windows, we have a lot of
complaints in the Microsoft Store about Calc being unstable.

@All: Anyone who has an idea how to fix this problem?



I think Firefox was also experiencing this and they fixed it:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-hangs-when-copying-suggested-actions-windows-11

Unfortunately their bug report is very long:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1774285

Possibly this was the fix, which calls OleFlushClipboard() after setting
the clipboard contents:
https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com/D160646


Thank you (again) for your valuable expertise!

Interesting that we are not alone with that problem... ;-)

I think it would be great to fix it, as the majority of our users are on 
Windows and the number of Windows 11 users is increasing.


Regards,

   Matthias



Regards
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Re: Problem With Open Office and Windows 11 /11 Pro.

2024-02-13 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 3:12 PM Matthias Seidel 
wrote:

> Hi Francis, All,
>
> Am 12.02.24 um 17:00 schrieb F Campos Costero:
> > Hi Don,
> > There are several posts on the user forum about similar problems. For
> > example
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=536089#p536089
> > The suggested solution is:
> > " Windows 11 has a new Clipboard Manager - go to Start > Settings, Click
> > Clipboard on the System tab and turn off *Suggested Actions*; if that
> > doesn't help, try turning off *Clipboard History"*
> > Please let us know if that works.
>
> Yes, this seems to be a common problem on Windows, we have a lot of
> complaints in the Microsoft Store about Calc being unstable.
>
> @All: Anyone who has an idea how to fix this problem?
>
>
I think Firefox was also experiencing this and they fixed it:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-hangs-when-copying-suggested-actions-windows-11

Unfortunately their bug report is very long:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1774285

Possibly this was the fix, which calls OleFlushClipboard() after setting
the clipboard contents:
https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com/D160646

Regards
Damjan


Re: Problem With Open Office and Windows 11 /11 Pro.

2024-02-13 Thread Matthias Seidel

Hi Francis, All,

Am 12.02.24 um 17:00 schrieb F Campos Costero:

Hi Don,
There are several posts on the user forum about similar problems. For
example https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=536089#p536089
The suggested solution is:
" Windows 11 has a new Clipboard Manager - go to Start > Settings, Click
Clipboard on the System tab and turn off *Suggested Actions*; if that
doesn't help, try turning off *Clipboard History"*
Please let us know if that works.


Yes, this seems to be a common problem on Windows, we have a lot of 
complaints in the Microsoft Store about Calc being unstable.


@All: Anyone who has an idea how to fix this problem?

Regards,

   Matthias


Regards,
Francis

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 8:22 AM sau...@optimum.net sau...@optimum.net <
sau...@optimum.net> wrote:


Hi,  My name is Donald Sauer. I have been working with Open Office with
Windows products from XP.   I am not sure where the problem starts. With
a speadsheets, Windows 11 or 11 Pro, when try to copy a line, cell,
sheet, from a current spreadsheet the product freezes and I can do any
other function with that spreadsheet. I must kill Open Office and
restart it. This is with both older spreeadsheets created with an older
Windows products, it continues to work with out any problems? I am not
sure if you are aware of this problem? I would more than happy to work
with folks, if you would require any further info or details of this
problem. Of course any fixes or updates that may be availble. My level
of Open Office is the latest from your site, Apache Open Office 4,
4.1.15 Date 2023-11-20 17:44.
Thank you for any Help, or info on this concern.
Don



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Re: Re: Re: Problem With Open Office and Windows 11 /11 Pro.

2024-02-12 Thread sau...@optimum.net sau...@optimum.net



Hi Sorry that I left you off the reply. Francis did a great job with the 
problem.

Again Thanks for your help
Don
-- Original Message --
From: sau...@optimum.net
To: fjcc.apa...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Problem With Open Office and Windows 11 /11 Pro.
 
Hi Francis, Thank you for your help. When I checked the settings for the 
Suggested Actions it was set to ON. The Clipboard History was set to 
OFF. When I turned OFF the Suggested Actions, the spreadsheets acted as 
you would expected it shound.  So just to check the Clipboard History, I 
changed to ON. The spreadsheets acted as there was no change of values 
(Clipboard History did not come into play with request.

One again Thanks for your help. Have a great day
Don
 
-- Original Message --
From: fjcc.apa...@gmail.com
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; sau...@optimum.net
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Problem With Open Office and Windows 11 /11 Pro.
 
Hi Don,
There are several posts on the user forum about similar problems. For 
example 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=536089#p536089 
<https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=536089#p536089>

The suggested solution is:
" Windows 11 has a new Clipboard Manager - go to Start > Settings, Click 
Clipboard on the System tab and turn off Suggested Actions; if that 
doesn't help, try turning off Clipboard History"

Please let us know if that works.
Regards,
Francis
 

 
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 8:22 AM sau...@optimum.net 
<mailto:sau...@optimum.net>  sau...@optimum.net 
<mailto:sau...@optimum.net>  <mailto:sau...@optimum.net> > wrote:

 

Hi,  My name is Donald Sauer. I have been working with Open Office with 
Windows products from XP.   I am not sure where the problem starts. 
With 

a speadsheets, Windows 11 or 11 Pro, when try to copy a line, cell, 
sheet, from a current spreadsheet the product freezes and I can do any 
other function with that spreadsheet. I must kill Open Office and 
restart it. This is with both older spreeadsheets created with an older 
Windows products, it continues to work with out any problems? I am not 
sure if you are aware of this problem? I would more than happy to work 
with folks, if you would require any further info or details of this 
problem. Of course any fixes or updates that may be availble. My level 
of Open Office is the latest from your site, Apache Open Office 4, 
4.1.15 Date 2023-11-20 17:44.
Thank you for any Help, or info on this concern.
Don    
 


Re: Problem With Open Office and Windows 11 /11 Pro.

2024-02-12 Thread F Campos Costero
Hi Don,
There are several posts on the user forum about similar problems. For
example https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=536089#p536089
The suggested solution is:
" Windows 11 has a new Clipboard Manager - go to Start > Settings, Click
Clipboard on the System tab and turn off *Suggested Actions*; if that
doesn't help, try turning off *Clipboard History"*
Please let us know if that works.
Regards,
Francis

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 8:22 AM sau...@optimum.net sau...@optimum.net <
sau...@optimum.net> wrote:

>
> Hi,  My name is Donald Sauer. I have been working with Open Office with
> Windows products from XP.   I am not sure where the problem starts. With
> a speadsheets, Windows 11 or 11 Pro, when try to copy a line, cell,
> sheet, from a current spreadsheet the product freezes and I can do any
> other function with that spreadsheet. I must kill Open Office and
> restart it. This is with both older spreeadsheets created with an older
> Windows products, it continues to work with out any problems? I am not
> sure if you are aware of this problem? I would more than happy to work
> with folks, if you would require any further info or details of this
> problem. Of course any fixes or updates that may be availble. My level
> of Open Office is the latest from your site, Apache Open Office 4,
> 4.1.15 Date 2023-11-20 17:44.
> Thank you for any Help, or info on this concern.
> Don
>


Problem With Open Office and Windows 11 /11 Pro.

2024-02-12 Thread sau...@optimum.net sau...@optimum.net


Hi,  My name is Donald Sauer. I have been working with Open Office with 
Windows products from XP.   I am not sure where the problem starts. With 
a speadsheets, Windows 11 or 11 Pro, when try to copy a line, cell, 
sheet, from a current spreadsheet the product freezes and I can do any 
other function with that spreadsheet. I must kill Open Office and 
restart it. This is with both older spreeadsheets created with an older 
Windows products, it continues to work with out any problems? I am not 
sure if you are aware of this problem? I would more than happy to work 
with folks, if you would require any further info or details of this 
problem. Of course any fixes or updates that may be availble. My level 
of Open Office is the latest from your site, Apache Open Office 4, 
4.1.15 Date 2023-11-20 17:44.

Thank you for any Help, or info on this concern.
Don    


Re: Fwd: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new update

2017-05-23 Thread Peter Kovacs
I have made some thought on file security. I think that the backup strategy is 
not good at all. 
I rather propose to copy the original to a temp folder. Then we work on the 
file and at save time we save first the temp file and then copy it back. 
Before we copy back we check the health of the copy making sure it's in good 
state. 
With this strategy we should always have a working copy available. 

Haven't check the necessary changes yet. 
It is just an idea. 

Am 23. Mai 2017 23:25:02 MESZ schrieb Hagar Delest :
>Le 23/05/2017 à 22:44, Rory O'Farrell a écrit :
>> On Tue, 23 May 2017 22:11:37 +0200
>> Hagar Delest  wrote:
>>> Le 22/05/2017 à 10:16, Rory O'Farrell a écrit :
 On Mon, 22 May 2017 09:57:31 +0200
 Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> Thanks for the sum up.
>
> Still I think we should find a solution.
> So i adf backup at the start of editing session  to the list.
>
> Is there a bug for this?
 There certainly ought be, but I cannot point to one.

 I think Hagar has remarked on Forum of one instance of spellcheck
>or file corruption on his (work) Windows system, and with great
>respect, that might be due to a freak close down on his part.  In this
>sort of fault finding the user reports of their actions are
>"unreliable", as they often feel they are being trapped into an
>admission of improper computer use.

 In ten years of heavy use  of StarOffice/OO (last years on linux) I
>have experienced file corruption or spellcheck problems on very few
>occasions, caused by unexpected power cuts in storms.  My computer
>experience goes back to 1965 (Fortran II on an IBM 1640), so I am aware
>of the need for system in their use,

 Rory
>>> There is a bug report for the ### and for the dictionary issue (but
>the latter was closed as fixed).
>>> Never heard of a feature request to have a backup of the
>registrymodification.xcu file. Sounds a good idea but still needs
>tweaking from user to restore the former file.
>>
>> Hager,
>>
>> My thoughts on a backup were that the file opened at start of an
>editing session should be backed up, so that in the event that the
>edited file corrupted (the ### problem) the previous version remained
>available.  It is bad enough to lose a session of edits, but how much
>worse to lose the entire file as often occurs with the ### problem 
>Having regard to the large size of current hard disks, I feel that this
>backup procedure (might it need to be a backup of a backup?) should be
>enabled by default
>I thought the backup proposed by Peter was for the registrymodification
>file. After second reading, it was about any file at all. Understood.
>Of course, that should be the standard process.
>I think that the new file should be written as a temporary file next to
>the original one and the original deleted and the new one renamed after
>the system has confirmation from the OS that the save is complete.
>I think that when saving a file in MS Office, we can see such temporary
>files appear and disappear when saving.
>
>>> As for the spellcheck corruption, I noticed quite recently that it
>could be in fact a temporary glitch. It happened on a big file (25MB),
>sometimes all the text is underlined and sometimes there is no
>underline at all (even where there should be). This behavior disappear
>after some time (haven't yet investigated what is needed, reboot or
>Windows session...)
>> Perhaps such a file is at the limit of what OO can comfortably
>handle.  I know from my own experience that large files can be slow to
>format correctly, depending where in the file the cursor was last
>positioned.  The formatting seems to start at the cursor position and
>seems to take several passes through the file until it stabilises.  The
>### problem you report may be an instance of this and might have
>cleared with the stabilisation of the formatting.
>As far as I remember, even waiting for a long time doesn't change
>anything.
>No real time to investigate when that file is open but will try to
>record if there is something special.
>
>Hagar
>
>
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Re: Fwd: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new update

2017-05-23 Thread Hagar Delest

Le 23/05/2017 à 22:44, Rory O'Farrell a écrit :

On Tue, 23 May 2017 22:11:37 +0200
Hagar Delest  wrote:

Le 22/05/2017 à 10:16, Rory O'Farrell a écrit :

On Mon, 22 May 2017 09:57:31 +0200
Peter Kovacs  wrote:

Thanks for the sum up.

Still I think we should find a solution.
So i adf backup at the start of editing session  to the list.

Is there a bug for this?

There certainly ought be, but I cannot point to one.

I think Hagar has remarked on Forum of one instance of spellcheck or file corruption on 
his (work) Windows system, and with great respect, that might be due to a freak close 
down on his part.  In this sort of fault finding the user reports of their actions are 
"unreliable", as they often feel they are being trapped into an admission of 
improper computer use.

In ten years of heavy use  of StarOffice/OO (last years on linux) I have 
experienced file corruption or spellcheck problems on very few occasions, 
caused by unexpected power cuts in storms.  My computer experience goes back to 
1965 (Fortran II on an IBM 1640), so I am aware of the need for system in their 
use,

Rory

There is a bug report for the ### and for the dictionary issue (but the latter 
was closed as fixed).
Never heard of a feature request to have a backup of the 
registrymodification.xcu file. Sounds a good idea but still needs tweaking from 
user to restore the former file.


Hager,

My thoughts on a backup were that the file opened at start of an editing 
session should be backed up, so that in the event that the edited file 
corrupted (the ### problem) the previous version remained available.  It is bad 
enough to lose a session of edits, but how much worse to lose the entire file 
as often occurs with the ### problem  Having regard to the large size of 
current hard disks, I feel that this backup procedure (might it need to be a 
backup of a backup?) should be enabled by default

I thought the backup proposed by Peter was for the registrymodification file. 
After second reading, it was about any file at all. Understood. Of course, that 
should be the standard process.
I think that the new file should be written as a temporary file next to the 
original one and the original deleted and the new one renamed after the system 
has confirmation from the OS that the save is complete.
I think that when saving a file in MS Office, we can see such temporary files 
appear and disappear when saving.


As for the spellcheck corruption, I noticed quite recently that it could be in 
fact a temporary glitch. It happened on a big file (25MB), sometimes all the 
text is underlined and sometimes there is no underline at all (even where there 
should be). This behavior disappear after some time (haven't yet investigated 
what is needed, reboot or Windows session...)

Perhaps such a file is at the limit of what OO can comfortably handle.  I know 
from my own experience that large files can be slow to format correctly, 
depending where in the file the cursor was last positioned.  The formatting 
seems to start at the cursor position and seems to take several passes through 
the file until it stabilises.  The ### problem you report may be an instance of 
this and might have cleared with the stabilisation of the formatting.

As far as I remember, even waiting for a long time doesn't change anything.
No real time to investigate when that file is open but will try to record if 
there is something special.

Hagar


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Re: Fwd: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new update

2017-05-23 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 23 May 2017 22:11:37 +0200
Hagar Delest  wrote:

> Le 22/05/2017 à 10:16, Rory O'Farrell a écrit :
> > On Mon, 22 May 2017 09:57:31 +0200
> > Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >> Thanks for the sum up.
> >>
> >> Still I think we should find a solution.
> >> So i adf backup at the start of editing session  to the list.
> >>
> >> Is there a bug for this?
> > There certainly ought be, but I cannot point to one.
> >
> > I think Hagar has remarked on Forum of one instance of spellcheck or file 
> > corruption on his (work) Windows system, and with great respect, that might 
> > be due to a freak close down on his part.  In this sort of fault finding 
> > the user reports of their actions are "unreliable", as they often feel they 
> > are being trapped into an admission of improper computer use.
> >
> > In ten years of heavy use  of StarOffice/OO (last years on linux) I have 
> > experienced file corruption or spellcheck problems on very few occasions, 
> > caused by unexpected power cuts in storms.  My computer experience goes 
> > back to 1965 (Fortran II on an IBM 1640), so I am aware of the need for 
> > system in their use,
> >
> > Rory
> There is a bug report for the ### and for the dictionary issue (but the 
> latter was closed as fixed).
> Never heard of a feature request to have a backup of the 
> registrymodification.xcu file. Sounds a good idea but still needs tweaking 
> from user to restore the former file.


Hager,

My thoughts on a backup were that the file opened at start of an editing 
session should be backed up, so that in the event that the edited file 
corrupted (the ### problem) the previous version remained available.  It is bad 
enough to lose a session of edits, but how much worse to lose the entire file 
as often occurs with the ### problem  Having regard to the large size of 
current hard disks, I feel that this backup procedure (might it need to be a 
backup of a backup?) should be enabled by default

> 
> As for the spellcheck corruption, I noticed quite recently that it could be 
> in fact a temporary glitch. It happened on a big file (25MB), sometimes all 
> the text is underlined and sometimes there is no underline at all (even where 
> there should be). This behavior disappear after some time (haven't yet 
> investigated what is needed, reboot or Windows session...)

Perhaps such a file is at the limit of what OO can comfortably handle.  I know 
from my own experience that large files can be slow to format correctly, 
depending where in the file the cursor was last positioned.  The formatting 
seems to start at the cursor position and seems to take several passes through 
the file until it stabilises.  The ### problem you report may be an instance of 
this and might have cleared with the stabilisation of the formatting.  

Rory

> 
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Re: Fwd: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new update

2017-05-23 Thread Hagar Delest

Le 22/05/2017 à 10:16, Rory O'Farrell a écrit :

On Mon, 22 May 2017 09:57:31 +0200
Peter Kovacs  wrote:

Thanks for the sum up.

Still I think we should find a solution.
So i adf backup at the start of editing session  to the list.

Is there a bug for this?

There certainly ought be, but I cannot point to one.

I think Hagar has remarked on Forum of one instance of spellcheck or file corruption on 
his (work) Windows system, and with great respect, that might be due to a freak close 
down on his part.  In this sort of fault finding the user reports of their actions are 
"unreliable", as they often feel they are being trapped into an admission of 
improper computer use.

In ten years of heavy use  of StarOffice/OO (last years on linux) I have 
experienced file corruption or spellcheck problems on very few occasions, 
caused by unexpected power cuts in storms.  My computer experience goes back to 
1965 (Fortran II on an IBM 1640), so I am aware of the need for system in their 
use,

Rory

There is a bug report for the ### and for the dictionary issue (but the latter 
was closed as fixed).
Never heard of a feature request to have a backup of the 
registrymodification.xcu file. Sounds a good idea but still needs tweaking from 
user to restore the former file.

As for the spellcheck corruption, I noticed quite recently that it could be in 
fact a temporary glitch. It happened on a big file (25MB), sometimes all the 
text is underlined and sometimes there is no underline at all (even where there 
should be). This behavior disappear after some time (haven't yet investigated 
what is needed, reboot or Windows session...).

Hagar

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Re: Fwd: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new update

2017-05-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 22 May 2017 09:57:31 +0200
Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> Thanks for the sum up. 
> 
> Still I think we should find a solution.
> So i adf backup at the start of editing session  to the list. 
> 
> Is there a bug for this?


There certainly ought be, but I cannot point to one.

I think Hagar has remarked on Forum of one instance of spellcheck or file 
corruption on his (work) Windows system, and with great respect, that might be 
due to a freak close down on his part.  In this sort of fault finding the user 
reports of their actions are "unreliable", as they often feel they are being 
trapped into an admission of improper computer use.

In ten years of heavy use  of StarOffice/OO (last years on linux) I have 
experienced file corruption or spellcheck problems on very few occasions, 
caused by unexpected power cuts in storms.  My computer experience goes back to 
1965 (Fortran II on an IBM 1640), so I am aware of the need for system in their 
use,

Rory



> 
> 
> Am 22. Mai 2017 09:43:52 MESZ schrieb Rory O'Farrell :
> >On Mon, 22 May 2017 08:23:54 +0200
> >Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >
> >> So we have 3 ) critical bugs?
> >> 
> >> 1) # issue
> >> 2) spell checker
> >> 3) I don't have in mind but Hagar mentioned it in his bugzilla
> >thread. 
> >
> >
> >The # issue seems caused usually by overhasty close down of the
> >computer, after space has been allocated in the zip archive but before
> >the data has been written to that space, which on inspection is usually
> >00 (zeroes).
> >
> >The spellchecker problem seems highly user related.  In almost all
> >cases it is cured by deletion or renaming of the OO user profile.  Why
> >it sometimes occurs after installation or upgrade of OO I do not know -
> >I would guess that this may be caused by "finger trouble" - the user
> >using some non-standard method of installation.
> >
> >Instances of faulty spellchecking on a previously good installation
> >seem to arise from partial corruption of registrymodiifications.xcu,
> >which may be attributed to over hasty close down of the computer before
> >the software/hardware write buffers have flushed to disk (remember that
> >modern hard disk drives also have internal data buffering).
> >
> >Most of these instances of file corruption/faulty spellcheck occur on
> >Windows.  
> >
> >Long time computer users, who honour the correct power off procedures,
> >do not seem to have these problems.
> >
> >A major requirement is that the original file should be backed up at
> >the start of an editing session, so that in the event of a file
> >corruption, only the current edit changes are lost.
> >
> >Rory
> >
> >> 
> >> :( I whish I could start immediately to find solution for them. 
> >> 
> >> Am 21. Mai 2017 22:17:02 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher
> >:
> >> >For what it's worth
> >> >
> >> >Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> >Begin forwarded message:
> >> >
> >> >> From: Hugo Costa 
> >> >> Date: May 21, 2017 at 1:36:19 PM EDT
> >> >> To: "us...@openoffice.apache.org" 
> >> >> Cc: Rory O'Farrell ,  Martin Groenescheij
> >> >,  Brian Barker 
> >> >> Subject: Re: Problem with Open Office before and after installing
> >new
> >> >update
> >> >> Reply-To: us...@openoffice.apache.org
> >> >> Reply-To: Hugo Costa 
> >> >> 
> >> >> I begin the campaign  :  DO NOT UPGRADE  the OPEN OFFICE  UNLESS
> >the
> >> >SPELL CHECK IS GOING TO WORK   .. I don know who decides when to
> >> >upgrade it,  but how many of us have a problem  with the spell check
> >> >after it.
> >> >> The  solution given, solution at end, made with respect,  is
> >> >Neanderthal Time  !!!
> >> >> 
> >> >> I saw it the same answer before in this  "chat"Spell check is an
> >> >aptitude old as word editors.  Do not touch it.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Letś stand on it :  I vote DO NOT UPGRADE  the OPEN OFFICE  UNLESS
> >> >the SPELL CHECK IS GOING TO WORK  
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >>On Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:52 AM, Rory O'Farrell
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Thu, 18 May 2017 01:58:06 + (UTC)
> >> >> Matt Wiser  wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >>>   Hi. Matt Wiser here, 

Re: Fwd: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new update

2017-05-22 Thread Peter Kovacs
Thanks for the sum up. 

Still I think we should find a solution.
So i adf backup at the start of editing session  to the list. 

Is there a bug for this?


Am 22. Mai 2017 09:43:52 MESZ schrieb Rory O'Farrell :
>On Mon, 22 May 2017 08:23:54 +0200
>Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>
>> So we have 3 ) critical bugs?
>> 
>> 1) # issue
>> 2) spell checker
>> 3) I don't have in mind but Hagar mentioned it in his bugzilla
>thread. 
>
>
>The # issue seems caused usually by overhasty close down of the
>computer, after space has been allocated in the zip archive but before
>the data has been written to that space, which on inspection is usually
>00 (zeroes).
>
>The spellchecker problem seems highly user related.  In almost all
>cases it is cured by deletion or renaming of the OO user profile.  Why
>it sometimes occurs after installation or upgrade of OO I do not know -
>I would guess that this may be caused by "finger trouble" - the user
>using some non-standard method of installation.
>
>Instances of faulty spellchecking on a previously good installation
>seem to arise from partial corruption of registrymodiifications.xcu,
>which may be attributed to over hasty close down of the computer before
>the software/hardware write buffers have flushed to disk (remember that
>modern hard disk drives also have internal data buffering).
>
>Most of these instances of file corruption/faulty spellcheck occur on
>Windows.  
>
>Long time computer users, who honour the correct power off procedures,
>do not seem to have these problems.
>
>A major requirement is that the original file should be backed up at
>the start of an editing session, so that in the event of a file
>corruption, only the current edit changes are lost.
>
>Rory
>
>> 
>> :( I whish I could start immediately to find solution for them. 
>> 
>> Am 21. Mai 2017 22:17:02 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher
>:
>> >For what it's worth
>> >
>> >Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >Begin forwarded message:
>> >
>> >> From: Hugo Costa 
>> >> Date: May 21, 2017 at 1:36:19 PM EDT
>> >> To: "us...@openoffice.apache.org" 
>> >> Cc: Rory O'Farrell ,  Martin Groenescheij
>> >,  Brian Barker 
>> >> Subject: Re: Problem with Open Office before and after installing
>new
>> >update
>> >> Reply-To: us...@openoffice.apache.org
>> >> Reply-To: Hugo Costa 
>> >> 
>> >> I begin the campaign  :  DO NOT UPGRADE  the OPEN OFFICE  UNLESS
>the
>> >SPELL CHECK IS GOING TO WORK   .. I don know who decides when to
>> >upgrade it,  but how many of us have a problem  with the spell check
>> >after it.
>> >> The  solution given, solution at end, made with respect,  is
>> >Neanderthal Time  !!!
>> >> 
>> >> I saw it the same answer before in this  "chat"Spell check is an
>> >aptitude old as word editors.  Do not touch it.
>> >> 
>> >> Letś stand on it :  I vote DO NOT UPGRADE  the OPEN OFFICE  UNLESS
>> >the SPELL CHECK IS GOING TO WORK  
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>On Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:52 AM, Rory O'Farrell
>> > wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On Thu, 18 May 2017 01:58:06 + (UTC)
>> >> Matt Wiser  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>>   Hi. Matt Wiser here, and I have been a longtime user of
>OpenOffice
>> >since the Win98 days on a desktop, and now on my laptop. Today, I
>> >encountered a problem, and a forum search didn't help. I opened a
>> >document that I had created and saved two years ago, and it had wavy
>> >lines beneath all of the text, something that has never happened
>> >before. I downloaded and installed the update to the new version
>just
>> >released, and the same thing happens! Only by disabling the
>automatic
>> >spell check does the wavy line disappear. Language has been set to
>> >English (USA) as the default setting. What's going on here? 
>> >>> Thanks in advance for your assistance, and can someone tell me
>> >what's going on here? I am a casual user of my computer-probably
>with a
>> >Capital C, so, any help is appreciated. 
>> >> 
>> >> Start by renaming your OpenOffice user profile.
>> >> 
>> >> As you are using Windows close OpenOffice and the Quickstarter.
>Open
>> >File
>> >> Explorer. Copy and paste %appdata%\OpenOffice\4 in the File
>Explorer
>> >(sometimes called Wi

Re: Fwd: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new update

2017-05-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 22 May 2017 08:23:54 +0200
Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> So we have 3 ) critical bugs?
> 
> 1) # issue
> 2) spell checker
> 3) I don't have in mind but Hagar mentioned it in his bugzilla thread. 


The # issue seems caused usually by overhasty close down of the computer, after 
space has been allocated in the zip archive but before the data has been 
written to that space, which on inspection is usually 00 (zeroes).

The spellchecker problem seems highly user related.  In almost all cases it is 
cured by deletion or renaming of the OO user profile.  Why it sometimes occurs 
after installation or upgrade of OO I do not know - I would guess that this may 
be caused by "finger trouble" - the user using some non-standard method of 
installation.

Instances of faulty spellchecking on a previously good installation seem to 
arise from partial corruption of registrymodiifications.xcu, which may be 
attributed to over hasty close down of the computer before the 
software/hardware write buffers have flushed to disk (remember that modern hard 
disk drives also have internal data buffering).

Most of these instances of file corruption/faulty spellcheck occur on Windows.  

Long time computer users, who honour the correct power off procedures, do not 
seem to have these problems.

A major requirement is that the original file should be backed up at the start 
of an editing session, so that in the event of a file corruption, only the 
current edit changes are lost.

Rory

> 
> :( I whish I could start immediately to find solution for them. 
> 
> Am 21. Mai 2017 22:17:02 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher :
> >For what it's worth
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >Begin forwarded message:
> >
> >> From: Hugo Costa 
> >> Date: May 21, 2017 at 1:36:19 PM EDT
> >> To: "us...@openoffice.apache.org" 
> >> Cc: Rory O'Farrell ,  Martin Groenescheij
> >,  Brian Barker 
> >> Subject: Re: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new
> >update
> >> Reply-To: us...@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Reply-To: Hugo Costa 
> >> 
> >> I begin the campaign  :  DO NOT UPGRADE  the OPEN OFFICE  UNLESS the
> >SPELL CHECK IS GOING TO WORK   .. I don know who decides when to
> >upgrade it,  but how many of us have a problem  with the spell check
> >after it.
> >> The  solution given, solution at end, made with respect,  is
> >Neanderthal Time  !!!
> >> 
> >> I saw it the same answer before in this  "chat"Spell check is an
> >aptitude old as word editors.  Do not touch it.
> >> 
> >> Letś stand on it :  I vote DO NOT UPGRADE  the OPEN OFFICE  UNLESS
> >the SPELL CHECK IS GOING TO WORK  
> >> 
> >> 
> >>On Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:52 AM, Rory O'Farrell
> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Thu, 18 May 2017 01:58:06 + (UTC)
> >> Matt Wiser  wrote:
> >> 
> >>>   Hi. Matt Wiser here, and I have been a longtime user of OpenOffice
> >since the Win98 days on a desktop, and now on my laptop. Today, I
> >encountered a problem, and a forum search didn't help. I opened a
> >document that I had created and saved two years ago, and it had wavy
> >lines beneath all of the text, something that has never happened
> >before. I downloaded and installed the update to the new version just
> >released, and the same thing happens! Only by disabling the automatic
> >spell check does the wavy line disappear. Language has been set to
> >English (USA) as the default setting. What's going on here? 
> >>> Thanks in advance for your assistance, and can someone tell me
> >what's going on here? I am a casual user of my computer-probably with a
> >Capital C, so, any help is appreciated. 
> >> 
> >> Start by renaming your OpenOffice user profile.
> >> 
> >> As you are using Windows close OpenOffice and the Quickstarter. Open
> >File
> >> Explorer. Copy and paste %appdata%\OpenOffice\4 in the File Explorer
> >(sometimes called Windows Explorer)
> >> Address Bar and press Enter. Rename the "user" folder - "user.old" is
> >a
> >> good choice. Start OpenOffice.
> >> 
> >> This cures most spellcheck problems.
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Rory O'Farrell 
> >> 
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Re: Fwd: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new update

2017-05-21 Thread Peter Kovacs
So we have 3 ) critical bugs?

1) # issue
2) spell checker
3) I don't have in mind but Hagar mentioned it in his bugzilla thread. 

:( I whish I could start immediately to find solution for them. 

Am 21. Mai 2017 22:17:02 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher :
>For what it's worth
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Hugo Costa 
>> Date: May 21, 2017 at 1:36:19 PM EDT
>> To: "us...@openoffice.apache.org" 
>> Cc: Rory O'Farrell ,  Martin Groenescheij
>,  Brian Barker 
>> Subject: Re: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new
>update
>> Reply-To: us...@openoffice.apache.org
>> Reply-To: Hugo Costa 
>> 
>> I begin the campaign  :  DO NOT UPGRADE  the OPEN OFFICE  UNLESS the
>SPELL CHECK IS GOING TO WORK   .. I don know who decides when to
>upgrade it,  but how many of us have a problem  with the spell check
>after it.
>> The  solution given, solution at end, made with respect,  is
>Neanderthal Time  !!!
>> 
>> I saw it the same answer before in this  "chat"Spell check is an
>aptitude old as word editors.  Do not touch it.
>> 
>> Letś stand on it :  I vote DO NOT UPGRADE  the OPEN OFFICE  UNLESS
>the SPELL CHECK IS GOING TO WORK  
>> 
>> 
>>On Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:52 AM, Rory O'Farrell
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 18 May 2017 01:58:06 + (UTC)
>> Matt Wiser  wrote:
>> 
>>>   Hi. Matt Wiser here, and I have been a longtime user of OpenOffice
>since the Win98 days on a desktop, and now on my laptop. Today, I
>encountered a problem, and a forum search didn't help. I opened a
>document that I had created and saved two years ago, and it had wavy
>lines beneath all of the text, something that has never happened
>before. I downloaded and installed the update to the new version just
>released, and the same thing happens! Only by disabling the automatic
>spell check does the wavy line disappear. Language has been set to
>English (USA) as the default setting. What's going on here? 
>>> Thanks in advance for your assistance, and can someone tell me
>what's going on here? I am a casual user of my computer-probably with a
>Capital C, so, any help is appreciated. 
>> 
>> Start by renaming your OpenOffice user profile.
>> 
>> As you are using Windows close OpenOffice and the Quickstarter. Open
>File
>> Explorer. Copy and paste %appdata%\OpenOffice\4 in the File Explorer
>(sometimes called Windows Explorer)
>> Address Bar and press Enter. Rename the "user" folder - "user.old" is
>a
>> good choice. Start OpenOffice.
>> 
>> This cures most spellcheck problems.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Rory O'Farrell 
>> 
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Fwd: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new update

2017-05-21 Thread Dave Fisher
For what it's worth

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Hugo Costa 
> Date: May 21, 2017 at 1:36:19 PM EDT
> To: "us...@openoffice.apache.org" 
> Cc: Rory O'Farrell ,  Martin Groenescheij 
> ,  Brian Barker 
> Subject: Re: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new update
> Reply-To: us...@openoffice.apache.org
> Reply-To: Hugo Costa 
> 
> I begin the campaign  :  DO NOT UPGRADE  the OPEN OFFICE  UNLESS the SPELL 
> CHECK IS GOING TO WORK   .. I don know who decides when to upgrade it,  but 
> how many of us have a problem  with the spell check after it.
> The  solution given, solution at end, made with respect,  is Neanderthal Time 
>  !!!
> 
> I saw it the same answer before in this  "chat"Spell check is an aptitude old 
> as word editors.  Do not touch it.
> 
> Letś stand on it :  I vote DO NOT UPGRADE  the OPEN OFFICE  UNLESS the SPELL 
> CHECK IS GOING TO WORK  
> 
> 
>On Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:52 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 May 2017 01:58:06 + (UTC)
> Matt Wiser  wrote:
> 
>>   Hi. Matt Wiser here, and I have been a longtime user of OpenOffice since 
>> the Win98 days on a desktop, and now on my laptop. Today, I encountered a 
>> problem, and a forum search didn't help. I opened a document that I had 
>> created and saved two years ago, and it had wavy lines beneath all of the 
>> text, something that has never happened before. I downloaded and installed 
>> the update to the new version just released, and the same thing happens! 
>> Only by disabling the automatic spell check does the wavy line disappear. 
>> Language has been set to English (USA) as the default setting. What's going 
>> on here? 
>> Thanks in advance for your assistance, and can someone tell me what's going 
>> on here? I am a casual user of my computer-probably with a Capital C, so, 
>> any help is appreciated. 
> 
> Start by renaming your OpenOffice user profile.
> 
> As you are using Windows close OpenOffice and the Quickstarter. Open File
> Explorer. Copy and paste %appdata%\OpenOffice\4 in the File Explorer 
> (sometimes called Windows Explorer)
> Address Bar and press Enter. Rename the "user" folder - "user.old" is a
> good choice. Start OpenOffice.
> 
> This cures most spellcheck problems.
> 
> -- 
> Rory O'Farrell 
> 
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A problem with Open Office 4.0.1

2016-01-25 Thread J J Wilkerson
 Hello,
I have been using Open Office since about 12/13, and have been very pleased 
with it. Today I started to edit a spread sheet document, and after saving an 
extensive edit, I could not open it again. For some reason it is now saved as 
an Excel document, and Open Office will not open it.
I thought that I might resolve this by updating the software, and tried to 
update the program with open office 4.1.2, but am not being successful. When I 
get to the installation I get a message that says, "Please exit OpenOffice 
4.1.2 and the OpenOffice 4.1.2 Quickstarter before you continue"
As far as I know, I am not using Quickstarter, and I really don't know what to 
do to open the spreadsheet I was working on or to update the OpenOffice from 
4.0.1 to 4.1.2.
I hope you can help me get going again.
Thanks,
Jim Wilkerson

Re: Problem with open office data

2015-01-09 Thread Oliver Brinzing

Hi Florian,

> Dear open-office Team,
> unfortunately a data got damaged (don´t know how) which is very
> important for me! do you know, what the matter is? (the data is enclosed.

i am sorry, but the file contains only NUL values.

please check if you can find a backup file *.bak in your openoffice user folder,
if you use windows, e.g.: %appdata%\OpenOffice\4\user\backup

Regards
Oliver



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RE: Problem with open office data

2015-01-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Your attached file consists of 16,346 nul (00) bytes.  There is no recoverable 
data in it.  It is not a valid ODF Text (OpenOffice Writer) document.
 
It was apparently saved in a corrupted form.  This can happen when OpenOffice 
is closed improperly or there was a problem with interruption of file saving.  
Was there a situation that had you force quitting from OpenOffice?
 
You will need to go back to a backup copy that you had saved before.  You 
*might* be able to find an AutoRecovery version of the file that was the one 
being worked from.  
 
To minimize this happening in the future, review the OpenOffice Tools | Options 
| Load/Save | General options for creating backup copies and also saving 
AutoRecovery information.
 
-   Dennis
 
 
 
 
 
From: Florian Schwarzenbacher [mailto:f.schwarzenbac...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 07:29
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Problem with open office data
Importance: High
 
 
Dear open-office Team,
unfortunately a data got damaged (don´t know how) which is very important for 
me! do you know, what the matter is? (the data is enclosed.
Please help me in this case!! 
thank you in advance,
 
best greets from Austria,

Florian Schwarzenbacher

M: +43 (0) 664 63 21 590
@: f.schwarzenbac...@hotmail.com <mailto:f.schwarzenbac...@hotmail.com> 
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Problem with open office data

2015-01-09 Thread Florian Schwarzenbacher

Dear open-office Team,
unfortunately a data got damaged (don´t know how) which is very important for 
me! do you know, what the matter is? (the data is enclosed.
Please help me in this case!! 
thank you in advance,

best greets from Austria,

Florian Schwarzenbacher

M: +43 (0) 664 63 21 590
@: f.schwarzenbac...@hotmail.com
Wimbergergasse 38/12
1070 Wien


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Re: Problem with open office

2014-10-26 Thread F C. Costero
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Juned M.  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have had problem with this msg which has been coming up everytime i
> start openofffice in my computer for the past 8 months. Dosnt help to click
> on it or whatever else i try. I have deleted and reinstalled open office,
> but it still appears again. Hope you guys can help me out. Sending the
> error msg as attachment. I use a Macbook pro.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Juned m@openoffice.apache.org
>
>
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Hi,
   Your attachment doesn't appear, so I'm guessing you have the problem
described in this forum thread:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=55755&#p244931.
You don't have to register on the forum to view the thread. I hope that
helps.
Best regards,
Francis


Problem with open office

2014-10-26 Thread Juned M .
Hi,
I have had problem with this msg which has been coming up everytime i start 
openofffice in my computer for the past 8 months. Dosnt help to click on it or 
whatever else i try. I have deleted and reinstalled open office, but it still 
appears again. Hope you guys can help me out. Sending the error msg as 
attachment. I use a Macbook pro.
Best Regards
Juned m@openoffice.apache.org 
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Re: Terrible problem with Open office

2013-01-01 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2013-01-01 5:49 PM watereflection wrote concerning "Terrible problem with Open 
office":

I need help to unfreeze my work in open office application. Every time I'm 
trying to open a text document, the following message pops up with no possible 
solution.
It does not allow me to turn off my computer nor restart.

The application “OpenOffice.org” was forced to quit while trying to restore its 
windows.  Do you want to try to restore its windows again?


From the Release notes at 
http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html
*Known Issues*
On recent versions of Mac OS X it might happen, especially after a "Force quit", that the 
following error message appears: "Restore Windows - The application OpenOffice.org was forced 
to quit while trying to restore its windows. Do you want to try to restore its windows again?". 
If you cannot get rid of it: Option-click the "Go" menu; choose "Library" from the menu to open 
the folder in the Finder; click on the folder "Saved Application State"; delete the file 
"org.openoffice.script.savedState". See this issue for more information.  
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119006


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