Re: website security certificate

2015-02-23 Thread Michal Hri



Dňa nedeľa, 22. február 2015 22:10 ,Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org 
napísal:
Marcus wrote:
 now the main and download webpage will be loaded via HTTPS only.

Thanks Marcus, I confirm that https://www.openoffice.org now doesn't 
give either the HTTP components warning or the identity information 
warning any longer. So everything works for me with HTTPS.


hrin

Tested in hurry, for me, Google Chrome on Windows gives me notice that not all 
components on main and download page are secure. 

(the certificate isn t green, but gray, after click on it, gived me this info, 
yo know)

/hrin


Of course, http://www.openoffice.org/ continues to work normally via HTTP.

Regards,

   Andrea.

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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-23 Thread Marcus

Am 02/23/2015 11:10 AM, schrieb Michal Hri:

Dňa nedeľa, 22. február 2015 22:10 ,Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org  
napísal:
Marcus wrote:

now the main and download webpage will be loaded via HTTPS only.


Thanks Marcus, I confirm that https://www.openoffice.org now doesn't
give either the HTTP components warning or the identity information
warning any longer. So everything works for me with HTTPS.

hrin

Tested in hurry, for me, Google Chrome on Windows gives me notice that not all
components on main and download page are secure.

(the certificate isn t green, but gray, after click on it, gived me this info, 
yo know)

/hrin

Of course, http://www.openoffice.org/ continues to work normally via HTTP.


good hint. The links outside of the normal content had still HTTP.

Marcus


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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Marcus wrote:

now the main and download webpage will be loaded via HTTPS only.


Thanks Marcus, I confirm that https://www.openoffice.org now doesn't 
give either the HTTP components warning or the identity information 
warning any longer. So everything works for me with HTTPS.


Of course, http://www.openoffice.org/ continues to work normally via HTTP.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-22 Thread Marcus

Am 02/20/2015 08:30 PM, schrieb Marcus:

Am 02/20/2015 08:07 PM, schrieb Marcus:

I've started with the download webpage as I know it very well. I don't
see any errors as it looks like before.

But I'll leave it for the moment and go on earliest on Sunday.


now the main and download webpage will be loaded via HTTPS only.

So, when we see the need to update further things, it should be easier now.

Marcus




Am 02/19/2015 11:49 PM, schrieb Marcus:

Am 02/19/2015 11:14 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 19/02/2015 Marcus wrote:

OK, next try. Still an error message?


Well... we NOWHERE, and I repeat NOWHERE, advertise the URL
https://www.openoffice.org ; as a courtesy to those people who prefer
HTTPS, we make it available, but if they use broken extensions or
paranoid security settings they cannot blame us too much.


then the solution would be to make it unavailable. ;-)

Seriously, I agree with Jan. When it's available then it should work.

Furthermore, there is also involvement of SEO: Google prefers the
availability of HTTPS over HTTP.


Then:

1) I also get (Firefox) the warning about This website does not supply
identity information; I didn't investigate this one.

2) We still load components from HTTP. Marcus, the Net panel in Firebug
will show you the URLs to all components. You will see that starting
with a 404 (?) for
http://www.openoffice.org/images/formElementDropShadow.png?2011060812
you have a series of action buttons that are all included via HTTP.
This
is because lines 56- of
https://www.openoffice.org/home.css
contain explicit HTTP links.

You may fix it (but I would need to check the CSS syntax for the url()
parameter) by:
- Using /path/to links as Ariel suggested
- Using // URLs (e.g., //www.openoffice.org will point to
https://www.openoffice.org when called in a https page and to
http://www.openoffice.org when called in a http page) ; I'm not a big
fan of this solution, I would prefer the former one.

All of this would anyway fix an undocumented, unpublished URL that we
make available just to please people (remember, this is a static HTML
site with no interactive server-side functionality or logins).


I don't want to stress a new topic. :-P However, wasn't there a
discussion to request a SSL certificate from Infra and the point was
IMHO the difficulty to get this as a wildcard certificate?

Anyway, I volunteer to do fixes where they a re needed (yes, I know we
have a big wesite. ;-) )

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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-20 Thread jan i
On 20 February 2015 at 00:34, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi -

 We had a reason that we enabled https in the first place. I don't recall
 it now, but there was a reason. It may have had to do with update servers.

The main web server on which we run, have always been enabled for both
http: and https: but we have not been able to use it, due to a missing
certificate.

When we got the openoffice certificate, we had the possibility and at the
same time we needed to change other services to https because the had a
login facility. This lead to a decision, to do it but not officially
support it. Someone (I think Markus or Rob) did a good job of removing
http: on most tags, but some was to complicated to be removed
automatically, hence we have some leftovers.

Now with https: ranging high in google, we are effectively promoting that
site, which is why I feel it should work or be removed (which I do not
recommend).

rgds
jan i.


 Regards,
 Dave

 On Feb 19, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Marcus wrote:

  Am 02/19/2015 11:14 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
  On 19/02/2015 Marcus wrote:
  OK, next try. Still an error message?
 
  Well... we NOWHERE, and I repeat NOWHERE, advertise the URL
  https://www.openoffice.org ; as a courtesy to those people who prefer
  HTTPS, we make it available, but if they use broken extensions or
  paranoid security settings they cannot blame us too much.
 
  then the solution would be to make it unavailable. ;-)
 
  Seriously, I agree with Jan. When it's available then it should work.
 
  Furthermore, there is also involvement of SEO: Google prefers the
 availability of HTTPS over HTTP.
 
  Then:
 
  1) I also get (Firefox) the warning about This website does not supply
  identity information; I didn't investigate this one.
 
  2) We still load components from HTTP. Marcus, the Net panel in Firebug
  will show you the URLs to all components. You will see that starting
  with a 404 (?) for
  http://www.openoffice.org/images/formElementDropShadow.png?2011060812
  you have a series of action buttons that are all included via HTTP. This
  is because lines 56- of
  https://www.openoffice.org/home.css
  contain explicit HTTP links.
 
  You may fix it (but I would need to check the CSS syntax for the url()
  parameter) by:
  - Using /path/to links as Ariel suggested
  - Using // URLs (e.g., //www.openoffice.org will point to
  https://www.openoffice.org when called in a https page and to
  http://www.openoffice.org when called in a http page) ; I'm not a big
  fan of this solution, I would prefer the former one.
 
  All of this would anyway fix an undocumented, unpublished URL that we
  make available just to please people (remember, this is a static HTML
  site with no interactive server-side functionality or logins).
 
  I don't want to stress a new topic. :-P However, wasn't there a
 discussion to request a SSL certificate from Infra and the point was IMHO
 the difficulty to get this as a wildcard certificate?
 
  Anyway, I volunteer to do fixes where they a re needed (yes, I know we
 have a big wesite. ;-) )
 
  Thanks for your valuable hints.
 
  Marcus
 
 
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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-20 Thread Marcus
I've started with the download webpage as I know it very well. I don't 
see any errors as it looks like before.


But I'll leave it for the moment and go on earliest on Sunday.

Marcus



Am 02/19/2015 11:49 PM, schrieb Marcus:

Am 02/19/2015 11:14 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 19/02/2015 Marcus wrote:

OK, next try. Still an error message?


Well... we NOWHERE, and I repeat NOWHERE, advertise the URL
https://www.openoffice.org ; as a courtesy to those people who prefer
HTTPS, we make it available, but if they use broken extensions or
paranoid security settings they cannot blame us too much.


then the solution would be to make it unavailable. ;-)

Seriously, I agree with Jan. When it's available then it should work.

Furthermore, there is also involvement of SEO: Google prefers the
availability of HTTPS over HTTP.


Then:

1) I also get (Firefox) the warning about This website does not supply
identity information; I didn't investigate this one.

2) We still load components from HTTP. Marcus, the Net panel in Firebug
will show you the URLs to all components. You will see that starting
with a 404 (?) for
http://www.openoffice.org/images/formElementDropShadow.png?2011060812
you have a series of action buttons that are all included via HTTP. This
is because lines 56- of
https://www.openoffice.org/home.css
contain explicit HTTP links.

You may fix it (but I would need to check the CSS syntax for the url()
parameter) by:
- Using /path/to links as Ariel suggested
- Using // URLs (e.g., //www.openoffice.org will point to
https://www.openoffice.org when called in a https page and to
http://www.openoffice.org when called in a http page) ; I'm not a big
fan of this solution, I would prefer the former one.

All of this would anyway fix an undocumented, unpublished URL that we
make available just to please people (remember, this is a static HTML
site with no interactive server-side functionality or logins).


I don't want to stress a new topic. :-P However, wasn't there a
discussion to request a SSL certificate from Infra and the point was
IMHO the difficulty to get this as a wildcard certificate?

Anyway, I volunteer to do fixes where they a re needed (yes, I know we
have a big wesite. ;-) )

Thanks for your valuable hints.


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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-20 Thread Marcus

Am 02/20/2015 08:07 PM, schrieb Marcus:

I've started with the download webpage as I know it very well. I don't
see any errors as it looks like before.

But I'll leave it for the moment and go on earliest on Sunday.


grrr, some change was too much. So, I've reverted the changes for now 
and will investigate later on the weekend.


Marcus




Am 02/19/2015 11:49 PM, schrieb Marcus:

Am 02/19/2015 11:14 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 19/02/2015 Marcus wrote:

OK, next try. Still an error message?


Well... we NOWHERE, and I repeat NOWHERE, advertise the URL
https://www.openoffice.org ; as a courtesy to those people who prefer
HTTPS, we make it available, but if they use broken extensions or
paranoid security settings they cannot blame us too much.


then the solution would be to make it unavailable. ;-)

Seriously, I agree with Jan. When it's available then it should work.

Furthermore, there is also involvement of SEO: Google prefers the
availability of HTTPS over HTTP.


Then:

1) I also get (Firefox) the warning about This website does not supply
identity information; I didn't investigate this one.

2) We still load components from HTTP. Marcus, the Net panel in Firebug
will show you the URLs to all components. You will see that starting
with a 404 (?) for
http://www.openoffice.org/images/formElementDropShadow.png?2011060812
you have a series of action buttons that are all included via HTTP. This
is because lines 56- of
https://www.openoffice.org/home.css
contain explicit HTTP links.

You may fix it (but I would need to check the CSS syntax for the url()
parameter) by:
- Using /path/to links as Ariel suggested
- Using // URLs (e.g., //www.openoffice.org will point to
https://www.openoffice.org when called in a https page and to
http://www.openoffice.org when called in a http page) ; I'm not a big
fan of this solution, I would prefer the former one.

All of this would anyway fix an undocumented, unpublished URL that we
make available just to please people (remember, this is a static HTML
site with no interactive server-side functionality or logins).


I don't want to stress a new topic. :-P However, wasn't there a
discussion to request a SSL certificate from Infra and the point was
IMHO the difficulty to get this as a wildcard certificate?

Anyway, I volunteer to do fixes where they a re needed (yes, I know we
have a big wesite. ;-) )

Thanks for your valuable hints.


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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Marcus

Am 02/19/2015 08:08 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

Marcus wrote:

Am 02/19/2015 02:36 PM, schrieb jan i:

On 19 February 2015 at 14:14, Simon Phippssi...@webmink.com   wrote:


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:26 AM, jan ij...@apache.org   wrote:


On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton

dennis.hamil...@acm.org

wrote:


 The connection to this web site is not fully secure
 because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
 images).


Perhaps the line:
 img src=http://www.openoffice.org/images/2014-eu-234x60.png;
alt=Logo
ApacheCon Europe 2014 /

is causing this?


A very  good idea...since this will cause a jump from HTTPS to HTTP. I
had
however expected another error for this.

Funny thing is, that I do not get an error on that page, even with my
Certificate analyzer.


I've changed all links for the grey box from HTTP to HTTPS. Let's see if
this will help to solve the problem.

@Brenda:
Please delete your browser cache and reload the webpage. What do oyu see
now?

Thanks

Marcus

Marcus;

When I delete the SeaMonkey cache and reload the page I still get the
warning for a partially encrypted page.


I think the content publish got stuck. Now I've also the graphic and 
links as HTTPS. Please try again.


Marcus


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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Marcus wrote:
 Am 02/19/2015 08:08 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
 Marcus wrote:
 Am 02/19/2015 02:36 PM, schrieb jan i:
 On 19 February 2015 at 14:14, Simon Phippssi...@webmink.com   wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:26 AM, jan ij...@apache.org   wrote:

 On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton
 dennis.hamil...@acm.org
 wrote:

  The connection to this web site is not fully secure
  because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
  images).

 Perhaps the line:
  img src=http://www.openoffice.org/images/2014-eu-234x60.png;
 alt=Logo
 ApacheCon Europe 2014 /

 is causing this?

 A very  good idea...since this will cause a jump from HTTPS to HTTP. I
 had
 however expected another error for this.

 Funny thing is, that I do not get an error on that page, even with my
 Certificate analyzer.

 I've changed all links for the grey box from HTTP to HTTPS. Let's see if
 this will help to solve the problem.

 @Brenda:
 Please delete your browser cache and reload the webpage. What do oyu see
 now?

 Thanks

 Marcus
 Marcus;

 When I delete the SeaMonkey cache and reload the page I still get the
 warning for a partially encrypted page.
 
 I think the content publish got stuck. Now I've also the graphic and
 links as HTTPS. Please try again.
 
 Marcus
Still getting the warning from SeaMonkey.

Keith




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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 07:10:56PM +0100, Marcus wrote:
 I've changed all links for the grey box from HTTP to HTTPS. Let's see if
 this will help to solve the problem.

The correct solution is to use src=/path/to/image, not forcing the
protocol on the url.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Marcus

Am 02/19/2015 09:09 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

Marcus wrote:

Am 02/19/2015 08:08 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

Marcus wrote:

Am 02/19/2015 02:36 PM, schrieb jan i:

On 19 February 2015 at 14:14, Simon Phippssi...@webmink.comwrote:


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:26 AM, jan ij...@apache.orgwrote:


On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton

dennis.hamil...@acm.org

wrote:


  The connection to this web site is not fully secure
  because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
  images).


Perhaps the line:
  img src=http://www.openoffice.org/images/2014-eu-234x60.png;
alt=Logo
ApacheCon Europe 2014 /

is causing this?


A very  good idea...since this will cause a jump from HTTPS to HTTP. I
had
however expected another error for this.

Funny thing is, that I do not get an error on that page, even with my
Certificate analyzer.


I've changed all links for the grey box from HTTP to HTTPS. Let's see if
this will help to solve the problem.

@Brenda:
Please delete your browser cache and reload the webpage. What do oyu see
now?

Thanks

Marcus

Marcus;

When I delete the SeaMonkey cache and reload the page I still get the
warning for a partially encrypted page.


I think the content publish got stuck. Now I've also the graphic and
links as HTTPS. Please try again.

Marcus

Still getting the warning from SeaMonkey.


just to be sure. Do you see/get a HTTPS URL for the graphic and link in 
thegrey box?


What do others get when they reload the webpage?

Thanks

Marcus

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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:26 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

 On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton 
dennis.hamil...@acm.org
 wrote:

 The connection to this web site is not fully secure
 because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
 images).


Perhaps the line:
   img src=http://www.openoffice.org/images/2014-eu-234x60.png; alt=Logo
ApacheCon Europe 2014 /

is causing this?

S.


Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread jan i
On 19 February 2015 at 14:14, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:26 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
 
  On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton 
 dennis.hamil...@acm.org
  wrote:
 
  The connection to this web site is not fully secure
  because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
  images).


 Perhaps the line:
img src=http://www.openoffice.org/images/2014-eu-234x60.png;
 alt=Logo
 ApacheCon Europe 2014 /




 is causing this?

A very  good idea...since this will cause a jump from HTTPS to HTTP. I had
however expected another error for this.

Funny thing is, that I do not get an error on that page, even with my
Certificate analyzer.

rgds
jan I.


 S.



Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Marcus

Am 02/19/2015 02:36 PM, schrieb jan i:

On 19 February 2015 at 14:14, Simon Phippssi...@webmink.com  wrote:


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:26 AM, jan ij...@apache.org  wrote:


On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton

dennis.hamil...@acm.org

wrote:


The connection to this web site is not fully secure
because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
images).


Perhaps the line:
img src=http://www.openoffice.org/images/2014-eu-234x60.png;
alt=Logo
ApacheCon Europe 2014 /

is causing this?


A very  good idea...since this will cause a jump from HTTPS to HTTP. I had
however expected another error for this.

Funny thing is, that I do not get an error on that page, even with my
Certificate analyzer.


I've changed all links for the grey box from HTTP to HTTPS. Let's see if 
this will help to solve the problem.


@Brenda:
Please delete your browser cache and reload the webpage. What do oyu see 
now?


Thanks

Marcus


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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Marcus wrote:
 Am 02/19/2015 02:36 PM, schrieb jan i:
 On 19 February 2015 at 14:14, Simon Phippssi...@webmink.com  wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:26 AM, jan ij...@apache.org  wrote:

 On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton
 dennis.hamil...@acm.org
 wrote:

 The connection to this web site is not fully secure
 because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
 images).

 Perhaps the line:
 img src=http://www.openoffice.org/images/2014-eu-234x60.png;
 alt=Logo
 ApacheCon Europe 2014 /

 is causing this?

 A very  good idea...since this will cause a jump from HTTPS to HTTP. I
 had
 however expected another error for this.

 Funny thing is, that I do not get an error on that page, even with my
 Certificate analyzer.
 
 I've changed all links for the grey box from HTTP to HTTPS. Let's see if
 this will help to solve the problem.
 
 @Brenda:
 Please delete your browser cache and reload the webpage. What do oyu see
 now?
 
 Thanks
 
 Marcus
Marcus;

When I delete the SeaMonkey cache and reload the page I still get the
warning for a partially encrypted page.

Regards
Keith



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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 19/02/2015 Marcus wrote:

OK, next try. Still an error message?


Well... we NOWHERE, and I repeat NOWHERE, advertise the URL 
https://www.openoffice.org ; as a courtesy to those people who prefer 
HTTPS, we make it available, but if they use broken extensions or 
paranoid security settings they cannot blame us too much.


Then:

1) I also get (Firefox) the warning about This website does not supply 
identity information; I didn't investigate this one.


2) We still load components from HTTP. Marcus, the Net panel in Firebug 
will show you the URLs to all components. You will see that starting 
with a 404 (?) for 
http://www.openoffice.org/images/formElementDropShadow.png?2011060812 
you have a series of action buttons that are all included via HTTP. This 
is because lines 56- of

https://www.openoffice.org/home.css
contain explicit HTTP links.

You may fix it (but I would need to check the CSS syntax for the url() 
parameter) by:

- Using /path/to links as Ariel suggested
- Using // URLs (e.g., //www.openoffice.org will point to 
https://www.openoffice.org when called in a https page and to 
http://www.openoffice.org when called in a http page) ; I'm not a big 
fan of this solution, I would prefer the former one.


All of this would anyway fix an undocumented, unpublished URL that we 
make available just to please people (remember, this is a static HTML 
site with no interactive server-side functionality or logins).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread jan i
On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 On 19/02/2015 Marcus wrote:

 OK, next try. Still an error message?


 Well... we NOWHERE, and I repeat NOWHERE, advertise the URL
 https://www.openoffice.org ; as a courtesy to those people who prefer
 HTTPS, we make it available, but if they use broken extensions or paranoid
 security settings they cannot blame us too much.


two things I agree they cannot blame us, but since we have a https: site it
should work. A simple alternative is to add a .httpaccess and route https:
to a single dummy page saying unsupported.

just my 2ct.
rgds
jan i


 Then:

 1) I also get (Firefox) the warning about This website does not supply
 identity information; I didn't investigate this one.

 2) We still load components from HTTP. Marcus, the Net panel in Firebug
 will show you the URLs to all components. You will see that starting with a
 404 (?) for http://www.openoffice.org/images/formElementDropShadow.
 png?2011060812 you have a series of action buttons that are all included
 via HTTP. This is because lines 56- of
 https://www.openoffice.org/home.css
 contain explicit HTTP links.

 You may fix it (but I would need to check the CSS syntax for the url()
 parameter) by:
 - Using /path/to links as Ariel suggested
 - Using // URLs (e.g., //www.openoffice.org will point to
 https://www.openoffice.org when called in a https page and to
 http://www.openoffice.org when called in a http page) ; I'm not a big fan
 of this solution, I would prefer the former one.

 All of this would anyway fix an undocumented, unpublished URL that we make
 available just to please people (remember, this is a static HTML site with
 no interactive server-side functionality or logins).

 Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 5:33 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

 On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
 wrote:

  On 19/02/2015 Marcus wrote:
 
  OK, next try. Still an error message?
 
 
  Well... we NOWHERE, and I repeat NOWHERE, advertise the URL
  https://www.openoffice.org ; as a courtesy to those people who prefer
  HTTPS, we make it available, but if they use broken extensions or
 paranoid
  security settings they cannot blame us too much.


 two things I agree they cannot blame us, but since we have a https: site it
 should work. A simple alternative is to add a .httpaccess and route https:
 to a single dummy page saying unsupported.


​Not sure thats a good idea. I mean we already have https working perfectly
for most people. Why should we have everyone get an unsupported message?​




 just my 2ct.
 rgds
 jan i

 
  Then:
 
  1) I also get (Firefox) the warning about This website does not supply
  identity information; I didn't investigate this one.
 
  2) We still load components from HTTP. Marcus, the Net panel in Firebug
  will show you the URLs to all components. You will see that starting
 with a
  404 (?) for http://www.openoffice.org/images/formElementDropShadow.
  png?2011060812 you have a series of action buttons that are all included
  via HTTP. This is because lines 56- of
  https://www.openoffice.org/home.css
  contain explicit HTTP links.
 
  You may fix it (but I would need to check the CSS syntax for the url()
  parameter) by:
  - Using /path/to links as Ariel suggested
  - Using // URLs (e.g., //www.openoffice.org will point to
  https://www.openoffice.org when called in a https page and to
  http://www.openoffice.org when called in a http page) ; I'm not a big
 fan
  of this solution, I would prefer the former one.
 
  All of this would anyway fix an undocumented, unpublished URL that we
 make
  available just to please people (remember, this is a static HTML site
 with
  no interactive server-side functionality or logins).
 
  Regards,
Andrea.
 
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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Emanuele
Andrea Pescetti wrote on 19/02/15 23:14:
 On 19/02/2015 Marcus wrote:
 OK, next try. Still an error message?

 Well... we NOWHERE, and I repeat NOWHERE, advertise the URL
 https://www.openoffice.org ; as a courtesy to those people who prefer
 HTTPS, we make it available, but if they use broken extensions or
 paranoid security settings they cannot blame us too much.

https://www.google.com/search?q=openofficegws_rd=ssl

1st result is: https.
Why?
Probably because since August 2014 google uses https as a ranking signal:
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.it/2014/08/https-as-ranking-signal.html

So, even if you do not advertise the URL, google does it for you, and
you can't blame users that arrive from google and find the page broken. ;)

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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Marcus

Am 02/19/2015 11:14 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 19/02/2015 Marcus wrote:

OK, next try. Still an error message?


Well... we NOWHERE, and I repeat NOWHERE, advertise the URL
https://www.openoffice.org ; as a courtesy to those people who prefer
HTTPS, we make it available, but if they use broken extensions or
paranoid security settings they cannot blame us too much.


then the solution would be to make it unavailable. ;-)

Seriously, I agree with Jan. When it's available then it should work.

Furthermore, there is also involvement of SEO: Google prefers the 
availability of HTTPS over HTTP.



Then:

1) I also get (Firefox) the warning about This website does not supply
identity information; I didn't investigate this one.

2) We still load components from HTTP. Marcus, the Net panel in Firebug
will show you the URLs to all components. You will see that starting
with a 404 (?) for
http://www.openoffice.org/images/formElementDropShadow.png?2011060812
you have a series of action buttons that are all included via HTTP. This
is because lines 56- of
https://www.openoffice.org/home.css
contain explicit HTTP links.

You may fix it (but I would need to check the CSS syntax for the url()
parameter) by:
- Using /path/to links as Ariel suggested
- Using // URLs (e.g., //www.openoffice.org will point to
https://www.openoffice.org when called in a https page and to
http://www.openoffice.org when called in a http page) ; I'm not a big
fan of this solution, I would prefer the former one.

All of this would anyway fix an undocumented, unpublished URL that we
make available just to please people (remember, this is a static HTML
site with no interactive server-side functionality or logins).


I don't want to stress a new topic. :-P However, wasn't there a 
discussion to request a SSL certificate from Infra and the point was 
IMHO the difficulty to get this as a wildcard certificate?


Anyway, I volunteer to do fixes where they a re needed (yes, I know we 
have a big wesite. ;-) )


Thanks for your valuable hints.

Marcus


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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Brenda
I tried it on 2 different computers and both got the error.
Brenda

From: jan i 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:26 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org ; dennis.hamil...@acm.org 
Cc: blissfulh...@live.com 
Subject: Re: website security certificate



On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org 
wrote:

  With Brenda's permission, I am reporting her direct replies to me back to the 
list.  I also have a jpg screen image that I will need to upload somewhere, 
such as into a Bugzilla issue.  In a follow-up along with the message below I 
learned that

  1. The browser is Firefox

  2. The URL is https://www.openoffice.org

  3. From the screen capture, the message that arrives most-recently is as 
follows, with the home page visible and a pop-under beneath the address bar 
(which has a caution ! sign in front of the URL):

 3.1 This website does not supply identity information.
 3.2 and beneath that,
 The connection to this web site is not fully secure
 because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
 images).
 3.3 There is a help button and a More Information ...
 button.

  Now that I think about it, that is all you would see that is relevant in the 
.jpg, so I won't bother to upload it.
.jpg did not make it to the list, which is normal. More or less all attachments 
get stripped off.

however I checked on the vm, the certificate is active.

2 good possibilities:

-  firefox dns caching does not resolve to our machine
-- solution clear the firefox history and try again.
- Firefox has the old certificate stored and for some reason did not update it.
-- the certificate was changed some 5-6 month ago, due to a security fix.

rgds
jan i

in any way 

  - Dennis



  -Original Message-
  From: Brenda [blissfulh...@live.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 13:07
  To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org
  Subject: Re: website security certificate

  It said something like the security certificate was for another website, I
  think.  I tried it twice and it did it both times but once I decided to go
  ahead to the website, since I had been on it before, it hasn't done it again
  (I'm assuming b/c my browser saved my preferences) but it is showing a
  warning up near the domain address bar.  I attached a screen shot of the
  warning.  Normally, I wouldn't go on a website if I got that warning (b/c
  the warning screen from google recommended NOT continuing to the site) but
  since I've used Open Office before I did.
  Brenda

  -Original Message-
  From: Dennis E. Hamilton
  Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:12 PM
  To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
  Cc: brendaleewilk...@hotmail.com
  Subject: RE: website security certificate
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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Keith N. McKenna
jan i wrote:
 On 19 February 2015 at 14:14, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:26 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

 On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton 
 dennis.hamil...@acm.org
 wrote:

The connection to this web site is not fully secure
because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
images).


 Perhaps the line:
img src=http://www.openoffice.org/images/2014-eu-234x60.png;
 alt=Logo
 ApacheCon Europe 2014 /

 
 

 is causing this?

 A very  good idea...since this will cause a jump from HTTPS to HTTP. I had
 however expected another error for this.
 
 Funny thing is, that I do not get an error on that page, even with my
 Certificate analyzer.
 
 rgds
 jan I.
 

 S.

 
I get the following warning with SeaMonkey 2.32.1. You have requested a
page that is only partially encrypted and does not prevent eavesdropping.

Keith



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature


Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread jan i
On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net
wrote:

 jan i wrote:
  On 19 February 2015 at 14:14, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com
 javascript:; wrote:
 
  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:26 AM, jan i j...@apache.org javascript:;
 wrote:
 
  On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton 
  dennis.hamil...@acm.org javascript:;
  wrote:
 
 The connection to this web site is not fully secure
 because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
 images).
 
 
  Perhaps the line:
 img src=http://www.openoffice.org/images/2014-eu-234x60.png;
  alt=Logo
  ApacheCon Europe 2014 /
 
 
 
 
  is causing this?
 
  A very  good idea...since this will cause a jump from HTTPS to HTTP. I
 had
  however expected another error for this.
 
  Funny thing is, that I do not get an error on that page, even with my
  Certificate analyzer.
 
  rgds
  jan I.
 
 
  S.
 
 
 I get the following warning with SeaMonkey 2.32.1. You have requested a
 page that is only partially encrypted and does not prevent eavesdropping.


that is the error I expected due to the img src calling http and not https.

rgds
jan i


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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:01 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

 On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Keith N. McKenna 
 keith.mcke...@comcast.net
 wrote:

  jan i wrote:
   On 19 February 2015 at 14:14, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com
  javascript:; wrote:
  
   On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:26 AM, jan i j...@apache.org
 javascript:;
  wrote:
  
   On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton 
   dennis.hamil...@acm.org javascript:;
   wrote:
  
  The connection to this web site is not fully secure
  because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
  images).
  
  
   Perhaps the line:
  img src=http://www.openoffice.org/images/2014-eu-234x60.png;
   alt=Logo
   ApacheCon Europe 2014 /
  
  
  
  
   is causing this?
  
   A very  good idea...since this will cause a jump from HTTPS to HTTP. I
  had
   however expected another error for this.
  
   Funny thing is, that I do not get an error on that page, even with my
   Certificate analyzer.
  
   rgds
   jan I.
  
  
   S.
  
  
  I get the following warning with SeaMonkey 2.32.1. You have requested a
  page that is only partially encrypted and does not prevent eavesdropping.


 that is the error I expected due to the img src calling http and not https.


Is there someone with commit access who could change that IMG tag to use
https so Brenda  Keith can check if that's the problem?

S.


Re: website security certificate

2015-02-19 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

We had a reason that we enabled https in the first place. I don't recall it 
now, but there was a reason. It may have had to do with update servers.

Regards,
Dave

On Feb 19, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Marcus wrote:

 Am 02/19/2015 11:14 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
 On 19/02/2015 Marcus wrote:
 OK, next try. Still an error message?
 
 Well... we NOWHERE, and I repeat NOWHERE, advertise the URL
 https://www.openoffice.org ; as a courtesy to those people who prefer
 HTTPS, we make it available, but if they use broken extensions or
 paranoid security settings they cannot blame us too much.
 
 then the solution would be to make it unavailable. ;-)
 
 Seriously, I agree with Jan. When it's available then it should work.
 
 Furthermore, there is also involvement of SEO: Google prefers the 
 availability of HTTPS over HTTP.
 
 Then:
 
 1) I also get (Firefox) the warning about This website does not supply
 identity information; I didn't investigate this one.
 
 2) We still load components from HTTP. Marcus, the Net panel in Firebug
 will show you the URLs to all components. You will see that starting
 with a 404 (?) for
 http://www.openoffice.org/images/formElementDropShadow.png?2011060812
 you have a series of action buttons that are all included via HTTP. This
 is because lines 56- of
 https://www.openoffice.org/home.css
 contain explicit HTTP links.
 
 You may fix it (but I would need to check the CSS syntax for the url()
 parameter) by:
 - Using /path/to links as Ariel suggested
 - Using // URLs (e.g., //www.openoffice.org will point to
 https://www.openoffice.org when called in a https page and to
 http://www.openoffice.org when called in a http page) ; I'm not a big
 fan of this solution, I would prefer the former one.
 
 All of this would anyway fix an undocumented, unpublished URL that we
 make available just to please people (remember, this is a static HTML
 site with no interactive server-side functionality or logins).
 
 I don't want to stress a new topic. :-P However, wasn't there a discussion to 
 request a SSL certificate from Infra and the point was IMHO the difficulty to 
 get this as a wildcard certificate?
 
 Anyway, I volunteer to do fixes where they a re needed (yes, I know we have a 
 big wesite. ;-) )
 
 Thanks for your valuable hints.
 
 Marcus
 
 
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RE: website security certificate

2015-02-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I just checked https://openoffice.org and https://www.openoffice.org and saw no 
certificate problems.  I also did a Google search on Open Office and saw no 
suspicious links in the first results.  All the ones to Apache OpenOffice 
locations work just fine.  Your search will also produce results for 
organizations and sites that have nothing to do with Apache OpenOffice.

Please redo the google search and tell us the URL that you attempted to access. 
 That is, can you see what the link is in the entry. It is usually right under 
the heading of the search-result entry.  If that doesn't work, tell us what the 
search term was (what you typed to Google) and what the heading of the result 
you tried is.

Also, what browser are you using?  This is usually what determines there is a 
security certificate discrepancy. 

-Original Message-
From: Brenda Bergman [mailto:brendaleewilk...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 07:28
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: website security certificate

When I was trying to go onto your website from a google search is said their 
was an issue with your security certificate and recommended not continuing to 
the site.  Thought I'd let you know in case it's killing your traffic.
Brenda
  


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Re: website security certificate

2015-02-18 Thread jan i
On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
wrote:

 With Brenda's permission, I am reporting her direct replies to me back to
 the list.  I also have a jpg screen image that I will need to upload
 somewhere, such as into a Bugzilla issue.  In a follow-up along with the
 message below I learned that

  1. The browser is Firefox

  2. The URL is https://www.openoffice.org

  3. From the screen capture, the message that arrives most-recently is as
 follows, with the home page visible and a pop-under beneath the address bar
 (which has a caution ! sign in front of the URL):

3.1 This website does not supply identity information.
3.2 and beneath that,
The connection to this web site is not fully secure
because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
images).
3.3 There is a help button and a More Information ...
button.

 Now that I think about it, that is all you would see that is relevant in
 the .jpg, so I won't bother to upload it.

.jpg did not make it to the list, which is normal. More or less all
attachments get stripped off.

however I checked on the vm, the certificate is active.

2 good possibilities:

-  firefox dns caching does not resolve to our machine
-- solution clear the firefox history and try again.
- Firefox has the old certificate stored and for some reason did not update
it.
-- the certificate was changed some 5-6 month ago, due to a security fix.

rgds
jan i

in any way


  - Dennis



 -Original Message-
 From: Brenda [blissfulh...@live.com javascript:;]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 13:07
 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org javascript:;
 Subject: Re: website security certificate

 It said something like the security certificate was for another website, I
 think.  I tried it twice and it did it both times but once I decided to go
 ahead to the website, since I had been on it before, it hasn't done it
 again
 (I'm assuming b/c my browser saved my preferences) but it is showing a
 warning up near the domain address bar.  I attached a screen shot of the
 warning.  Normally, I wouldn't go on a website if I got that warning (b/c
 the warning screen from google recommended NOT continuing to the site) but
 since I've used Open Office before I did.
 Brenda

 -Original Message-
 From: Dennis E. Hamilton
 Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:12 PM
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org javascript:;
 Cc: brendaleewilk...@hotmail.com javascript:;
 Subject: RE: website security certificate
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RE: website security certificate

2015-02-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
With Brenda's permission, I am reporting her direct replies to me back to the 
list.  I also have a jpg screen image that I will need to upload somewhere, 
such as into a Bugzilla issue.  In a follow-up along with the message below I 
learned that 

 1. The browser is Firefox

 2. The URL is https://www.openoffice.org

 3. From the screen capture, the message that arrives most-recently is as 
follows, with the home page visible and a pop-under beneath the address bar 
(which has a caution ! sign in front of the URL):

   3.1 This website does not supply identity information.
   3.2 and beneath that,
   The connection to this web site is not fully secure
   because it contains unencrypted elements (such as
   images).
   3.3 There is a help button and a More Information ...
   button.

Now that I think about it, that is all you would see that is relevant in the 
.jpg, so I won't bother to upload it.

 - Dennis



-Original Message-
From: Brenda [blissfulh...@live.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 13:07
To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Subject: Re: website security certificate

It said something like the security certificate was for another website, I 
think.  I tried it twice and it did it both times but once I decided to go 
ahead to the website, since I had been on it before, it hasn't done it again 
(I'm assuming b/c my browser saved my preferences) but it is showing a 
warning up near the domain address bar.  I attached a screen shot of the 
warning.  Normally, I wouldn't go on a website if I got that warning (b/c 
the warning screen from google recommended NOT continuing to the site) but 
since I've used Open Office before I did.
Brenda

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis E. Hamilton
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:12 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: brendaleewilk...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: website security certificate
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