Re: CMS diff:
committed. Thanks for your update, Yan Ji! - Shenfeng Liu (Simon) 2012/11/6 Yan Ji anonym...@apache.org Clone URL (Committers only): https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/stats%2Fdefects.txt Yan Ji Index: trunk/content/stats/defects.txt === --- trunk/content/stats/defects.txt (revision 1406016) +++ trunk/content/stats/defects.txt (working copy) @@ -1,20 +1,19 @@ date,reported,fixed 2011-06-01,0,0 -2011-07-01,119,271 -2011-08-01,255,288 -2011-09-01,326,298 -2011-10-01,359,322 -2011-11-01,448,373 -2011-12-01,547,442 -2012-01-01,599,472 -2012-02-01,745,540 -2012-03-01,888,633 -2012-04-01,1050,714 -2012-05-01,1185,767 -2012-06-01,1564,857 -2012-07-01,2013,1065 -2012-08-01,2316,1208 -2012-09-01,2673,1256 -2012-10-01,3029,1406 -2012-11-01,3182,1451 - +2011-07-01,93,23 +2011-08-01,207,25 +2011-09-01,265,28 +2011-10-01,289,34 +2011-11-01,344,55 +2011-12-01,415,77 +2012-01-01,462,101 +2012-02-01,598,153 +2012-03-01,711,190 +2012-04-01,844,233 +2012-05-01,963,250 +2012-06-01,1250,287 +2012-07-01,1677,425 +2012-08-01,1903,512 +2012-09-01,2161,597 +2012-10-01,2444,718 +2012-11-01,2576,756
Re: ApacheCon Day 3 report
Andrea, imacat and every one in Sinsheim, Thanks for your sharing! So glad that we have such a success event! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/11/12 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org imacat wrote: On 01.11.11 07:01pm, Andrea Pescetti said: The public preview (the one you should check) is at https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=** apache_openoffice_track_at_**apachecon1https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_openoffice_track_at_apachecon1 +1. This reads great! Thanks! Published at https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/**entry/apache_openoffice_track_** at_apachecon1https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_track_at_apachecon1 or, equivalent shorter URL: http://s.apache.org/**openoffice-aceu2012-day-3http://s.apache.org/openoffice-aceu2012-day-3 This is the link you can use for social media and other communication. Regards, Andrea.
Re: a german speaking Flyer
2012/11/12 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello, -Original Message- From: jan iversen [mailto:jancasacon...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:02 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: a german speaking Flyer I like your maybe, but as I see it, there are no such thing as apache supervising what we do, apache is a community and we are all part of it, so what we do as a community have to be correct. I do not understand the special review of Linux. The flyer is e.g. also talk of Windows and that is, in detail, just as wrong, for example, AOO does not run on Windows 95. I think everyone can information about any free software. He can do that in a community, he can do that privately. In the flyer, no one has had the intention to speak for Apache, but a few people on their own initiative made a flyer in doubt, reflects their opinion. Neither we informiert deliberately false nor have weir rights of AOO violated because there are labeling as TM as well as a statement of the rights to the logos. *We have made the Flyer under a free license available, that anyone can do about it what he does not like, or what he thinks is factually incorrect.* But please: none of us here has done anything wrong, said or intended. We are a few people who have done on their own initiative a flyer that we provide expressly for information only and not as an official flyer from Apache. I see this as a praise for this good work. We like it so much that we're discussing how we can take this and make it official, and translate it into other languages. This is good. +1 Can any one help to translate it to English firstly? Then I can translate it from English to Chinese... - Shenfeng (Simon) -Rob Greetings, Jörg
Re: [UX] Desoign Exploration - Dockable Task Pane Content Design
Thanks, Kevin! And I added your Content Design page to the sidebar planning wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+sidebar - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/11/15 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Simon, Indeed, I think we should keep it simple for the initial implementation. Contextual properties is a must have. I'll prep some interaction design mockups. Regards, Kevin On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin, The proposal is very good! I suggest we start from the Content Properties and ClipArt, and add more release by release. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/11/15 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Hello All, I've been exploring the information design (content) for the dockable task pane. I've analyzed the current content in both LS and AOO, and captured some thoughts on future design direction. See: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_-_Information_Design Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki page. Thanks, Kevin
Re: Fw: QA Volunteer
Welcome, Manju! - Simon 2012/11/19 Xue Fei Duan duanx...@gmail.com Manju, Welcome joining us. I believe you will enjoy in AOO project. Follow link s some QA guideline, you can take a look at it, if you have any question , feel free to let us know. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/intro-qa.html Thanks! -Xue Fei On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Manju2 M manju...@tcs.com wrote: Hi All, This is Manju from INDIA. Interested in QA, Automated Testing, Looking forward to join Apache team :-) Regards, Manju - Forwarded by Manju2 M/TVM/TCS on 11/16/2012 11:43 AM - From: Manju2 M/TVM/TCS To: q...@openoffice.apache.org. Date: 11/16/2012 11:35 AM Subject: QA Volunteer Hi All, This is Manju, QA tester from TCS. I am looking forward to hear more about Apache and would love to help in success of Apache OpenOffice 4.0. :-) Regards, Manju . =-=-= Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you
Re: AOO 4.0 testing discussion
Xue Fei, Thanks for kick off this topic! It is very important for us to begin think about 4.0 testing target and process! IMO, 4.0 final regression test is unlikely to happen in this year, since there are many big features we'd like to have in 4.0. While one thing I think we can do from now on is to setup regular test again the development snapshot builds. I suggest we create a test plan which last for 1 or 2 month in Testlink, with all the available test cases in system, from acceptance test suites, to those target to advanced features. QA volunteers can come to Testlink and pickup some test cases to execute and update the test result with build number. Then after 2 months, we can harvest the result and check the executed coverage, then plan the test target for the next phase. Through this kind of iterative testing, we can continuously monitor the quality. Of course, we should keep the monthly or bi-monthly milestone build. Just my 2 cents. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/11/20 Ji Yan yanji...@gmail.com What's the release goal of AOO 4.0, in my understanding, no regression issue is hard goal. to support this goal we need more regression test. Besides that, I think test platform support also need to be considered. There is discussion before on old support platforms, IMHO, we should announce support platform for which AOO has been test on. Let's post ideas on wiki page[1]. [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Test+Planning 2012/11/20 Xue Fei Duan duanx...@gmail.com Hi All, Recently, there are many new volunteers to join us. It's very exciting and I think it's time for us to think about our AOO 4.0 testing plan. follow is our developer AOO 4.0 brainstorm, it's not finalized for AOO 4.0 development plan but we may begin to think how we can do our test work for AOO 4.0. I'll draft our testing plan, if you have any idea or suggestion, welcome to response this mail. AOO 4.0 development brainstorm: [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Planning Thanks -Xue Fei -- Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji
Fidelity Improvement sample wiki
Hi, all, I created a wiki to show some fidelity improvement samples since AOO 3.4.1 in our current build: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Fidelity_Improvement_Since_AOO341#OOXML_Support The purpose of this wiki is to promote our significant fidelity enhancements with shining samples. Of course not all the enhancements/defect fixes can be included in this wiki. Thanks to Jian Yuan Li, Lei Wang, Jian Hong, Zhe Wang and Ying Zhang and other people who send me a lot of good samples. I didn't finish the wiki yet. While any comments are welcome. For now I have 2 questions: 1. I think the contents in this wiki should be in the release notes of our coming 4.0. Maybe a link to this wiki page from release notes? Any suggestion? 2. Currently I can not upload the file of docx, pptx or xlsx. I wonder if any one can help to add them to the permission list? Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon)
Re: Gallery extension from Symphony ressources
2012/11/27 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de Am 11/26/2012 02:44 PM, schrieb Armin Le Grand: Hi List, I took a closer look at Symphony's checked in ressources concerning the gallery. There are quite some nice and useful additional themes there we (and our users) should benefit from. Thus, I propose (and volunteer :-) to integrate these to the trunk. Please have a look at a current Symphony version or look at the provides symphony sourcecode to get an impression (it's in main/extras/source/gallery). The added themes are: arrows bullets computers diagrams education environment finance gallery_sound gallery_system people sounds symbols transportation txtshapes The currently existing themes in trunk are: bullets gallery_sound gallery_system htmpexpo rulers sounds ww-back www-graf Where bullets, gallery_sound, gallery_system and sounds are double. I propose to just merge the contents. (gallery_sound and gallery_system are hidden, internal themes). For info: ww-back and www-graf are also hidden themes which are used in Writer's www export. I think these themes are useful for a wide variety of users and I will try to just merge them smoothly to have these available. All contents are in png format (not yet svg) with transparencies and offer quite some useful stuff. We should have them in that format for now, conversion to SVG is not realistic due to many contained gradients. For adding future themes I propose to use svg, but for now we should use what we have. Same is true for evtl. later add online data access for the gallery for clipart libraries (which support svg). But one step after the other... I'm currently inverstigating on the issue (wrote #121407# for it, see there) and will report how much size it would add to download packages. Suggestions welcome! Yeah, great idea. :-) +1. Let's add those themes in! Thanks, Armin! - Shenfeng (Simon) Marcus
Update about Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 @Dec 13
Hi, all, Sorry that I didn't update the status of Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 for a long time. Finally we confirmed the agenda. And we get 1 hour for Apache OpenOffice (14:00-15:00). Below is my proposed agenda: == 1. Part: The history and status quo of OpenOffice Speaker: Peter Junge Time: 20 Minutes Brief outline: + Overall introduction of Apache OpenOffice + History before Apache ++ From StarOffice to OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice + OpenOffice at Apache ++ New Challeges, e.g. License and different community vision ++ Organizational status quo of the project, promotion from incubator to TLP 2. Part: What's happening around Apache OpenOffice in Beijing 2.1. Speaker: Shenfeng Liu Time: 10 Minutes Brief outline: + Introduce volunteers in Beijing and the contributions from them ++ Development, QE, UX, Translation, Marketing + Call for volunteers 2.2 Speaker: Hongyun An Time: 10 Minutes Brief outline: + Contributing UOF to Apache OpenOffice 3. Part: Apache OpenOffice and Cloud 3.1 Speaker: Tao Liu Time: 10 Minutes Brief outline: + Developing Enterprise OA system based on OpenOffice 3.2 Speaker: Dali Liu Time: 10 Minutes Brief outline: + Social Integration with AOO == Here is the link to the event, where you can find the agenda, venue, and register: http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com/# . (Sorry that no funding support for travel.) I will write up a promotion article calling for participating (in English Chinese). Tell me if you have any comments/suggestion. Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon)
Re: DOCX: merged comments
Pavel, Thanks for your patch! But I'd like to clarify one thing: did you take the fix out from LO? My understanding is that due to the license limitation, unfortunately we can not take the code from LO. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/11/30 Pavel Janík pa...@janik.cz Hi, today I was shown the problem which is described in the issue https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=113059 This issue is fixed in LibreOffice and thus I (after spending some hours xmllint'ing OOXML's comments.xml and debugging writerfilter) isolated and improved the fix for AOO and attached sample patch to the issue. Any volunteers to review/intergation/QA? DOCX comments need more love: no author is shown (DOCS contains initials and author's name) and the date of the change is ignored and current date is used... Any takers? -- Pavel Janík
Re: [RELEASE] AOO.next = AOO 4.0
2012/12/5 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:07:45PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, first of all I would like to volunteer again as release manager for our next release if it's ok for our community. Second I would like to define with you what our next release will be. After various discussion and activities on the mailing list and also at the ApacheCon, I got the impression that the majority would support a 4.0 version as our next release. What was the outcome of this thread? Is trunk in 4.0 mode? Andrea update to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/f8KoAQ suggests so (I may have missed some mail telling so). Ariel, My understanding from the discussion is that we are going to release 4.0 as the next release. I volunteer to help Juergen to consolidate the contents from previous project planning wiki of 3.5 as well as 4.0. - Shenfeng (Simon) Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: wiki.open office Volunteer Application
Doreen, Welcome to join us! And hope you can feel fun in our community! I'm not quite familiar with Industry Design, is it more about hardware or software? User interface design, or application infrastructure design? And in Apache OpenOffice community, are you interested in development work, or User Experience/UI design work, or even other works as testing, marketing, translation... ? Any way, you can start from the following 2 pages which are for new comers: - http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html - http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html Don't hesitate to send mail to dev@openoffice.apache.org for any question you have. :) - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/12 陶然 doreentr0...@gmail.com Hello, I'm a collage student ,and my major is industry design.I'm very interested in wiki open office,so I send you this letter to wonder that may I be a member of volunteers? I will be very Appreciate if you agree my joining ! Best regards, Doreen
Re: can I get permission to upload file to mwiki ?
I tried it and uploaded 3 screenshot files successfully! Thanks to TJ for the help! Thanks to Andrew for your asking! And also thanks to Helen Russian who contacted me earlier saying she can help me to upload the files. While now I don't need to occupy her mail box with big attachments! :) - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/13 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org On 12/12/2012 06:44 PM, TJ Frazier wrote: On 12/12/2012 17:39, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 12/11/2012 12:25 AM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: I'd like to continue the working on the fidelity improvement wikihttp://wiki.openoffice.**org/wiki/Documentation/** Fidelity_Improvement_Since_**AOO341http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Fidelity_Improvement_Since_AOO341, and need to upload screenshots. My wiki account is liushenf . Thanks very much! - Shenfeng (Simon) Was this taken care of? I do not think that I have the ability to grant this access, only to create accounts that I saw Am I mistaken on this? Sorry to be slow on this. @Simon: try it now. You are now a sysop. @Andrew: thanks for reminding me. This needs a bureaucrat, to make a new sysop. /tj/ OK, just wanted to make sure I was not missing something :-) -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/**AndrewMacro.odthttp://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: wiki.open office Volunteer Application
Doreen, Please refer to http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html, and send mail to dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org , then you will be subscribed to dev@openoffice.apache.org automatically. But be careful that there might be 20~50 mails every day from the mail list. So you may want a special mail account for it. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/14 陶然 doreentr0...@gmail.com Hi, First of all, thank you for your fast feedback! And I'm very appreciate your permit! Would you please put me into the mail list?And if I have an account for editing WIKI content, my username for the account is Doreen. Nice to meet you all! Best regards, Doreen 2012/12/13 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org the WIKI, respond to this email (be sure to include the mailing list) and indicate the username to use for your account. Note that you only require an account if you will edit WIKI content
Re: [Blog Draft] Update about Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 @Dec 13
Hi, all, I just want to give you an update that we had a successful Apache OpenOffice session last Thursday (Dec 13) on Apache Asia Road Show 2012 Beijing. Thanks to Peter, Tao and Da Li for the speech! The topics covered AOO general introduction, contributions from local volunteers, how to join community and make contribution, and building social/cloud solutions by integrating with AOO. We also distributed AOO promotion materials that prepared by Da Li. We got more than 100 audience participated in the OpenOffice session 14:00-15:00. Most of them are technical people from different companies and universities. Per my check during my speech, only 20 had used OpenOffice before. So it is really a good promotion of our product and community. We are refining the presentations and will publish them later. Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/5 Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org OK. On 12/5/2012 4:55 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Peter, Thanks for your comments! I added the speaker names per the presenting sequence. Apache OpenOffice in Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 at December 13 Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 will be held at December 13, and Apache OpenOffice will deliver a session in the conference. In the Apache OpenOffice session, Peter Junge, Apache OpenOffice PMC member, will give a speech to introduce Apache OpenOffice, its history and way in Apache. And other contributors in Beijing, Shenfeng Liu, Hongyun An, Tao Liu and Dali Liu, will also give their speech to share the best practice of contributing to the open source community, as well as building enterprise business and Cloud/Social solution on top of Apache OpenOffice. Please visit the Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 website and register: http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com . We are looking forward to seeing you there! Apache OpenOffice将在12月13日Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012大会上介绍其发展及解决方案 Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012将于12月13日在北京中关村软件园举行。届时Apache OpenOffice将在大会上介绍其发展及相关解决方案。 在论坛上，Apache OpenOffice项目管理委员会成员Peter Junge将首先介绍Apache OpenOffice及其历史和发展方向。其他在北京的Apache OpenOffice志愿者，刘慎锋，安红云，刘涛，刘大力等，也会分享在Apache OpenOffice开源社区做贡献的经验，以及如何基于Apache OpenOffice开发企业应用和云计算及社交解决方案。 欢迎大家到Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012网站注册： http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com！让我们共同关注Apache OpenOffice，共同推动开源社区的发展！ - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/5 Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org I would also mention the names of the other speakers. Apart from that it's OK. Peter On 12/4/2012 11:15 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Don, Thanks for your suggestion! Here is my draft of the blog, in English Chinese. Please review and give your comments! I found myself not able to edit the blog directly, so I wonder if you or any one else can help to post? Thanks very much! Here is the post, in draft form on the blog: https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=** apache_asia_road_show_beijing https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_asia_road_show_beijing Let me know if it is OK and I will publish it. -Rob --**-- Apache OpenOffice in Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 at December 13 Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 will be held at December 13, and Apache OpenOffice will deliver a session in the conference. In the Apache OpenOffice session, Peter Junge, Apache OpenOffice PMC member, will give a speech to introduce Apache OpenOffice, its history and way in Apache. And other contributors in Beijing will also give their speech to share the best practice of contributing to the open source community, as well as building enterprise business and Cloud/Social solution on top of Apache OpenOffice. Please visit the Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 website and register: http://apacheasiaroadshow04.**eventbrite.com http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com. We are looking forward to seeing you there! --**-- Apache OpenOffice将在12月13日Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012大会上介绍其发展及解决方案 Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012将于12月13日在北京中关村软件园举行。**届时Apache OpenOffice将在大会上介绍其发展及相关解决方案。 在论坛上，Apache OpenOffice项目管理委员会成员Peter Junge将首先介绍Apache OpenOffice及其历史和发展方向。**其他在北京的Apache OpenOffice志愿者也会分享在Apache OpenOffice开源社区做贡献的经验，**以及如何基于Apache OpenOffice开发企业应用和云计算及社交解决方案。 欢迎大家到Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012网站注册： http://apacheasiaroadshow04.**eventbrite.com http://apacheasiaroadshow04.eventbrite.com ！让我们共同关注Apache OpenOffice，共同推动开源社区的发展
Re: [RELEASE] Update 4.0 planning items
Hi, all, I updated the planning wiki and moved most proposed feature/enhancement with no owner from http://4.04.0https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Planningto 4.1https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Planning. And I left Encryption GUI still in 4.0 for now, since TJ is discussing the UI design and trying to get developer volunteer for this item. So I suggest we revisit this item later (January?). Next, I'd like our owners to double check the following proposed items and confirm if each of them can/should be in 4.0 (current target is to release in April 2013). Again, I will move out those having no confirmation after 1 week. (of course, any one is free to propose them back any time). enhanced extensions manager The extensions manager should support multiple repositories. Either via UI or via configuration only. - jsc OpenSocial support Enable 'sharing' to OpenSocial container's Activity Streams for document, chart, or spreadsheet review comment - Kevin Grignon (UX design) MacOS support with Java dropped - Herbert Duerr Usability improvement in Ctrl+A and mouse operations in tables and sections - Cheng Jian Hong Interoperability improvement with MS Word 2007/2010 on Shape support - Zhang Ying XLS loading performance with multiple pivot tables - Wang Lei Speaker notes support in normal view - Chen Jin Hua Include ODF Toolkit- robweir Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/8 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12/7/12 3:18 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 08:55:23AM -0500, TJ Frazier wrote: The Encryption GUI item has not attracted a sponsor. I added this per the resolution of a very long discussion in BZ [1]. Subsequently, Jürgen wrote an extension to set SHA256 mode, and I wrote a macro[2] to toggle the settings; both are still available. (I have no idea whether any or many users have used them.) [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119090#c31 [2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User:TJFrazier/Encryption (this page includes text suitable for release notes) If somebody wants to pick up on this, and implement a GUI (probably in Tools Options, possibly on the Save and Save As dialogs), that's wonderful. Lacking all fu for SVN and C++, I can't volunteer for this. the best way is to start a new thread asking for UX advice where to include the option. IMHO the Save dialogs are a no-go, the average user will have no idea what this means. On the other hand, Tools Options Load/Save General has almost no space to add anything else, but may be a new Encryption options page is an overhead... Mmh, maybe directly over the Size optimization ... checkbox. I have thought initially about Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org - Security. There should be enough place for a checkbox with some explanation. Juergen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJQwhb+AAoJEM/u8xZRtf3oP2EP/jOzchb2sy8C+Pat1hygnzP8 CHreoVW2K7Zgmxs9WPsAuhz6NEH6dhmwg2kHQsh+rP/6FbkXtcKdVuUavKF8JqqW SlqKIu52Od6c2DBznhX3yEjj2/qcUOEOGL303TEXnINIxOYc4Xr2jbInbsB6Weaq +RoxTUvRLIrP9l6j0iXR7GLmM2CKokKH6fzPXYn2jAVsYSMh9oeT55xTgOjww72m ZS6/6FZdAtsjTplqDGUqsDcAZXOVd+qhjBHLFxzFEAsE0gQzKglKKZJsszZ6EcIj b4PgpHfIHrkvcuIHOe0O+aDrxd0lwuYBONFHb9hA4+4JHi+rBnLHDxHAUkbHljC1 IHNXxYJP+d8Sb7VDHuKilqxlefZtrTJAqbcIveY0sONPQBSm+8NluxN4p26ko+RZ TYXJEOHe4Xvz6FvG4bLyD2A2JwxgVLf8kVk/sayM3/x+QD+X0RLEUDQa4EhWYGdi CugUxj0jbIyvumvY2EIslxQetMGuykeRmDw62jvAu65XFaquKuPaIbDmP/gpFISx d+3dYO43wUVnCfrEQY1b3dJijSQbgjsC6GTr6JVF+YxcjNfJOIAe3gjvZsJal63X v4UJVwQpVDm/eLpyH+YT4M6wEPz0a1f9N+zgRcdXVIOEH0lrVckHmM3bUjeUTyjp GEb0OnjoK5eCGCfvUNx7 =Q2xu -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Is mwiki down?
It's back now! Thanks for every one! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/17 janI j...@apache.org I am on IRC right nowIt was dead and have a power recyclehopefully it comes up in a minute or two. jan I. On 17 December 2012 12:51, tj t...@apache.org wrote: On 12/17/2012 06:22, Shenfeng Liu wrote: I can not access mwiki now... Any one can help to check? Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) Hi, Simon, Yes, it's down. The link below[1] is very handy for checking on things like this. [1] http://monitoring.apache.org/**status/ http://monitoring.apache.org/status/ The mwiki is currently marked in red, which should mean that someone in Infra is already hustling to fix it. /tj/
Re: Default Toolbar for Certain Languages
2012/12/19 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw On 2012/12/18 11:24, Fan Zheng said: As we are considering about the side bar stuff currently, would you mind giving us more specifications on your suggestions? Specificly, I'm thinking about installing this on both Chinese versions by default: http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/cpuncbar We may discuss about the list of punctuation marks, but that's the basic idea. This is quite important to Chinese users, as people keep asking me about it. imacat, I agree with you that it is a very useful feature! But IMO to build it into product, we need a better design than the current extension. e.g. It should be customizable, since there are so many special characters and different people will ask for different characters on the toolbar. And then, it should be general enough and be able to work for all languages (even English), with different default set of characters? - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/11/26 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:40 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: I would like to ask if it is possible for a default toolbar for certain languages, but not all. Out local community was asking a Chinese punctuation toolbar for a long time, which they were used to it since MS Office 97. Unlike English punctuation, it is very trouble to input Chinese full-width punctuation. This toolbar helped them a lot. I submit a request, and am amazed how fast words got spread and people are enthusiastic about getting this done. http://goo.gl/mod/GTi6 I know it is easy to do it in with a extension of BASIC macros. Is it possible to include it in the OpenOffice installation? Or maybe hard-code it? Hi -- is this new Extension related? http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ROCtwTCP -Rob -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/
Re: [UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design
Ariel, My comments below: 2012/12/19 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi, On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 03:22:06PM +0800, Xin Li wrote: Hi all, I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design. I have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki. See: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki page. Thanks. http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals It would be nice to have all the sidebar related pages under the same category. You can start from : http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_4.0_Dockable_Task_Pane_%28Task_Bar%29_Design_Exploration. And in section 5.2, you can find the link to Xin's page above. Or you can go to our planning wiki for find the entrance: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+sidebar . Concerning the feature: - the jargon used in the different sidebar related pages is somehow hard to understand, it would be nice to use the same terminology and have a piRegardscture where this terminology is described +1 for a terminology table. Perhaps in: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_4.0_Dockable_Task_Pane_%28Task_Bar%29_Design_Exploration? - about the chosen colours: they shouldn't be hard-coded, and system settings should be used (where available) IMHO, it depends. system settings vary and can be customized which will make our application look ugly some time. So if we can define good scheme for ourselves (of course, not necessary to be hard-coded), I will say: Why not? - Shenfeng (Simon) Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: Chinese list (was Re: [Blog Draft] Update about Apache Asia Road Show Beijing 2012 @Dec 13)
2012/12/19 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw I wrote to Liu Tao and Ma, with no response yet. According to the previous discussion of me and Liu Tao, we concerned about the purpose of such list. We may not be able to support other Chinese developers solely by so far (and there may not be so much Chinese discussion). And there does not seem to be the need for a separate discussion between us. Unless there is another proposal, I suppose the current situation (discussing on the dev@ list) is fine. Other proposal or idea is welcome. I think it is on demand. I believe the Chinese list will be a good place for Chinese volunteers to discuss in native language, especially for new comers to quick startup. So when we see many Chinese new comers to join, asking question even in Chinese ^_^, we should seriously consider a Chinese mail list. And I'd like to volunteer to be a moderator then. :) But for now, I didn't see a strong requirement. So I suggest to keep in dev@list. - Shenfeng (Simon) On 2012/12/18 11:42, Pedro Giffuni said: Hi Rob; Da: Rob Weir On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; FWIW, one idea that I left floating during ApacheConEU was the creation of a chinese list. Imacat was working on it, no idea if it the idea is still alive or waiting for volunteers to help moderate, etc. Interesting idea, but two of our committers in China are German (Peter) and Canadian (Kevin). So discussing local Chinese marketing in English would possibly be better for them ;-) The idea is not only for Chinese marketing: I expect we will have a vibrant Chinese user/developer community and there is likely to be a language barrier so the list is also for community building and to treat specific chinese (language) support issues. The creation and administration of such list depends on Chinese users so I thought I would suggest it but I won't be pushing the topic further. cheers, Pedro. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/
Re: OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program
Congratulations! 2012/12/20 Albino Biasutti Neto bin...@apache.org Hi 2012/12/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: For 3rd year in a row, OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program. Congratulations, everyone! http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=10 Very well :-) disseminating ... -- Albino www.albino.ws
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
imacat, Your comments are so professional! :-) Personally I like this logo design more comparing to other candidates in wikihttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations. Thanks Michael! While we may also want to update the app icon design as the next step for consistent LF... - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/20 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw Some honest thoughts: 1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird. The lights of the plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not. 2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple. And we have other components such as Math and Draw. 3. The directions of the lights are contradictory. The lights of the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the plate of the orb) come from right. But still, thanks you very much for this great effort. On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said: Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash screen that appears at the launch of the application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays! -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/
Re: Draft blog response to top 10 questions
How about this for question 8? Q: 8. When is OpenOffice going to get a visual refresh and be built with each OSes native widgets? A: Visual refresh is part of our continuous effort on user experience improvement. It is a challenge work to innovate with modern UI vs. support gradual transformation of huge amount of existing users, leverage OSes native widgets vs. keep consistent LF across platforms. Our UX designers and developers are working together on it, and you will notice some improvements in 4.0 which is coming around 2nd quarter. The more feedback we get from you, the better design we can make. Hope Kevin Grignon and other UX people can add better words... - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/1/4 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com On 01/03/2013 11:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't looking, or thinking about AOO for a few months - missed the switch. The old one was for product ideas. The new one was for questions. It seemed like a good idea to keep these distinct. Anyway, it is the top vote getter question there alright.. Let me know if you see any other questions that should be answered. You may notice that no single iPad/Android question was in the top 10, though there were several of them that were in the top 20. So combing the votes on those gave me an excuse to bump into into the winners circle. I might do the same for the Windows 8 support questions -- again, several of them where votes could be combined. -Rob so far, so good...and sorry I can't really help with 7, 8, or 10 Oddly, I can't actually get the csv export from google on the proper question page - remote services, try back again in 2 minutes please ;) On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Right - I've taken the csv export, sucked into Calc, removed the author/location columns completely, saved as ODS and imported that into Google Docs. Also added a column which subtracts, minus votes, and so yes getting a single question ranking is trivial. Google Moderator does that automatically. That is part of their popularity ranking. They might take some other factors into account, such as how recently a question was asked. An older question had more time to get up votes, so some normalization seems desirable. For purposes of the blog post I'm using the Google ordering rather than devising my own metric. Any reason, now that the author name/location is excised, not to share this raw data for reading. I was about to include the URL here, thought I'd ask to be sure no one minds. We had the URL on the front page of our website for weeks. So it is hardly a state secret. I'll add a link to the blog post as well. -Rob //drew On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Rob, Looking at the blog - I read it that the question abut LibO and AOO is the number one asked question, is that what it say? I'm looking at the google site and sorting by popularity under general questions and get: Most of the times I deal with middle eastern languages. when I open a DOCX, DOC or PPTX, PPT file, the text changes from RTL to LTR and vice versa. no matter the file is in middle eastern language or latin. please fix it. You are looking at the wrong Google Moderator session. Try this one: http://www.google.com/**moderator/#16/e=2033e8http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=2033e8 So, I just downloaded the stats as a csv file, don't see yet how to get the top questions by vote, haven't really looked yet..by any chance to you already have this in a neat SS that you could share, You should be able to export to a CSV file if you find that more convenient. But the default sort order is by popularity, so picking out the top questions is trivial, once you are looking at the right page. -Rob Thanks, Drew On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 11:57:11 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: snip OK. See if the revised answer is good. Revised text is very good. snip Is there anything in the current text that suggests blame? No, Rob, there is not, nor was there; I'm sorry if it was picked up so. My comment was intended as general policy that we should not attribute blame in any direction; I think we are all well aware how any such might be picked up by pro-active supporters of other office suites and a seemingly innocent statement of fact escalated into a vicious slanging match, with increasing ill-feeling on both sides. If the AOO project is to proceed (and hopefully, heal historic breaches) I think we all need to be careful to avoid adverse
Re: Version 3.5 or is it 4.0 ??
2013/1/4 Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com Also, on the accessibility updates, I noted on the wiki page some dates. Looks like preliminary updates are in the current build as of Oct, but first useful updates not till next month, and full merge middle of the year - so is that the same basic timing before the UI changes will show up in the nightly builds also, early February? Drew, Yes, the accessibility work is also planned for 4.0, but currently the development work is in a separated branch, so you can not see it in the main trunk yet. I believe Steve Yin can provide more detailed plan on merging the works to the main trunk. - Shenfeng (Simon)
Re: (Draft) Introduction to Development module
2013/1/16 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 14.01.2013 20:01, Rob Weir wrote: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html The idea here is to have a dev-focused introduction page that works along side the similar pages we have for Marketing and QA. This is the first draft. I already see a few typos, so don't worry about those. But I am looking for more content. What else should we put here? Any other links? Any other startup tasks? There exists different type of development: - changing the core - using AOO in other applications - adding functionality to AOO via extensions and macros Right. It is a term with several meanings. But only the first one involves a volunteer contributing to the project, so it should be clear from the context. Your text addresses only changing the core. That is likely correct, when someone reaches that page following a hierarchical instruction. But nowadays pages are more often found by searching. Good point. So my suggestion is, to make a short page for the other type of development and add at the beginning of your text, the target audience of your page and a reference to the other page. Right now, when I search Google for 'OpenOffice development' I get this page: http://www.openoffice.org/development/ That looks like a mix of topics, but need to be updated. Regards, -Rob I don' know, whether an introduction page for the other kind of development already exist. But it should contain hints to: - a...@openoffice.apache.org - existence and download of SDK - http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/module-ix.html - http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/BASIC_Guide - http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/OpenOffice.org_Developers_Guide [- http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Using_Cpp_with_the_OOo_SDK, if it will be continued] I think it makes sense to include the link to the OpenGrok instance from Adfinis Sygroup [1] which can be also used to inspect the source code. [1] http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/ Thanks! I made changes, mainly additions, based on your feedback and earlier comments from Kay and Jan. Here is the updated version: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html The section 'Other Useful Resources' should have a link to http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Source_code_directories and http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Coding_Standards and http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Code_Conventions However, they seem to need revision and additions. But they are useful for newcomer nevertheless. OK. I created new sections for Orienting Yourself and Coding Standards. A hint to Doxygen for LibreOffice. The tool is helpful and it would be nice to have a similar thing for AOO. If a module has it, you can get it when you click on the module name in http://docs.libreoffice.org/ and then on 'Doxygen'. Try it for example with module 'sd'. I agree, that would be nice. Does anyone have any hints for debugging? Or do we even have a page on debug logging/tracing? For easy hacks it is probably sufficient to insert debugging log statements and debug things that way. -Rob Rob, The page looks great! Of course there are more detailed guidance that we need to add or update (e.g. debug, build...), but we can complement them gradually. We already have a volunteer directory wiki[1], and I think we should encourage them to register. And further more, I'm thinking if we should create a new wiki page and give a checklist for new developers to record their progress, e.g. build successfully on xx platform, can debug, submitted n patch(es). (1) For themselves, it will be great to feel their own progress with regular milestone achievements. (2) For other new comers, this page can be a good reference to get help and exchange the experience, who still has fresh memory to some of the pain that old members might forgot already. :P (3) For community, it is definitely good to know where are our new comers. e.g. If few new volunteers recorded build successfully, we need to check with them and review if our document is not adequate... Just my 0.02$. [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers - Shenfeng Kind regards Regina
Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work
Steve, Thanks very much for your work on the Accessibility development work! For the calling for Accessibility QA volunteers, I wonder if there is any skill requirement, or tool that we prefer to use in testing? - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/1/25 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com Hi all, The UI part of the AOO IAccessible2 migration dev work will be done in a few days. We need QA volunteers to join the testing work and ensure the migration quality. This work will be started on the branch ia2. https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2 If you are interested in AOO IAccessible2 testing work, please reply this mail. Thanks. -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
Re: Sidebar color scheme survey
Andre, Thanks for the great work! I search out the original sidebar post on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/395424523873910 And the result till now shows that B1 and B3 are more favorite, and A1 is following. Here is what I counted out (some people voted for multiple options. And if some one just say I like 3, I will +1 for A3, B3 and C3): A1: 4 A2: 1 A3: 2 B1: 5 B2: 1 B3: 5 C1: 2 C2: 1 C3: 3 - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/1/30 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Andre, This is looking really great. Re: colour An initial goal for the sidebar is to compliment, but not compete with of distract users from the canvas. In an effort to minimize UI noise and help keep the focus on the editor canvas - the work - I recommend we adopt a hybrid of proposal 1 3: a grey background with suitable contrast for the title sections, a darker grey. Another option might be to use a gradient for the section title. Darker to lighter, top to bottom. This would frame the header, reinforce the expand/collapse affordable And reinforce the info architecture. More importantly, if the gradient resolved to the background colour, it would eliminate the line between the header text and the content. This will strengthen the association between the section title and content and mitigate the Lego effect. I can prep a sketch to illustrate my point. Re: control styles Again, noise reduction and consistency would be best. Flat backgrounds are consistent with other toolbars and reduce non-actionable pixels. I recommend we implement Proposal B. Again, great job. I'm looking forward to exploring new and exciting uses for the sidebar framework. Best regards, Kevin On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:41 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Development of the sidebar is progressing well. It already looks a lot like the mockups posted by Xin Li on December 18th [1]. I have concentrated on the underlying framework, so there is only one partially migrated panel so far. Nevertheless the framework is now flexible enough to think about the default color scheme to use. There are developer builds [2] and an extension that allow live evaluation of the nine different color schemes from [1]. I would like to ask you to either look at the mockups at [1] or try the developer builds [2] and tell me what color scheme you like best. General information about the sidebar, the current state of development and how to help can be found in the wiki [3]. Thanks in advance for you help, Andre [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals [2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds [3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar PS: I remember Rob having asked the same question on our Facebook site but can not find the email anymore. I also remember that the feedback was somewhat inconclusive. Does anybody know the details?
Re: Are there still patchs from Synphony to merge?
2013/1/31 Fan Zheng zheng.easy...@gmail.com Hi, Raphael: Thank you so much! Yes there are still items from Symphony that should be merged into AOO. But there is one thing should be clarified anyway that, which part you want to get in? Defect fixing? Solution reviewing? and the QA works? 2013/1/30 Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch Hi at all Are there still patchs (bugfixes) from Synphony to merge? I'm willing to help in this area. I have enought power to compile and test patchs here. Do we have same instructions? Greetings Raphael Raphael, Welcome! There is one way you can try is to search the open defects in Bugzilla with [From Symphony] in headline. This tag means Symphony already has the fix for this defect, but didn't migrate to AOO yet. - Shenfeng (Simon)
Re: [Accessibility] IA2 bridge and UI related changes were submitted on the branch ia2
Steve, Great work! Since Phase II is only half way on the full Accessibility support, I wonder if we can provide more details (on wiki) for the enhancement we implemented, so that QA can do related verification. Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/2/1 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com Hi all, IAccessible2 for UI on the branch ia2 is ready for QA now. SVN: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/ia2/ -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
Re: Presentation templates for ApacheCon NA 2013
I talked to Xin Li, who was the template designer of 2012 ApacheCon EU. She kindly agreed to think about the template. But the problem is that next week is Chinese Spring Festival Holidays, and Xin may not able to work on it till Feb 16. Considering that we don't have much time left, I'd like to call for more UX volunteers to work together on the template design. If any one have interest in the template design, you can refer to the Apach OpenOffice template site here http://templates.openoffice.org . And you can find the template used for 2012 ApacheCon EU herehttp://templates.openoffice.org/en/node/8865. I think the key is the background theme, which, IMHO, should have: (1) Apache logo + conference name; (2) some character of the host (e.g. for 2012 ApacheCon EU, we designed the ribbons of black+red+yellow to indicate that it was hosted in Germany). Just my 0.02$. And I also copied to openoffice dev list, hoping to have more volunteers. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/2/7 Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com I believe Daniel Gruno was kind enough to do some graphics for us for ACEU, and I believe ShenFeng Liu of the Open Office Group prepared the templates. I have copied them both in case they would like to, and have time to, help. regards Steve On Feb 6, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Mark Grover wrote: Hi, I was looking to see if there are any presentation templates available for ApacheCon NA 2013. I found some graphics at http://holdenweb.com/acna13gfx/ but no presentation templates. I also found a similar thread for ApacheCon Europe with some templates ( http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201210.mbox/%3c506bcc23.6070...@nanthrax.net%3E ) but nothing for ApacheCon NA 2013. Any pointers or templates would be much appreciated! Thanks! Mark Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com +1 571 484 6266 @holdenweb -- Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ Next event:ApacheCon NA 2013: Feb 26-28 http://na.apachecon.com/ Community events: Barcamp Feb 24 Hackathon Feb 25 Development Mar 1/2
Re: Sidebar color scheme survey
2013/2/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG 01 On Feb 8, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 29/01/2013 Andre Fischer wrote: I would like to ask you to either look at the mockups at [1] or try the developer builds [2] and tell me what color scheme you like best. We have two votes for A2 at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-progetto-it/201301.mbox/browser to which I'll add mine too. So make it +3 for proposal A2 as listed at http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals A bunch of responses on Facebook as well: https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/490670047645797 I asked for a preference and why, so the comments are interesting as well. -Rob Can someone summarize the sentiment on facebook for those of us who cannot access such social media sites. Sorry. It is easy to forget that Facebook is not accessible everywhere. Here is a copy/paste: Tomáš Kebert B2. Gradient would look inconsistent on different platforms, emboss looks oldschool, and so does the dark gray background of titles. Tomáš Kebert On a different note, I think something like apply these setting on the style used would come in handy added to such panel. Martin Schröder i'd vote for proposal 2, but i don't like either of a,b,c. i think b is the most clearly variant, but the groups of buttons should be separated differently (i don't know how...) Shaun Michael Coates Proposal 3 - My eyes easily distinguished content panels with this option. Proposal B - The simple lines as a spliter looks the cleanest. Rob Lewellyn Proposal 3. Nicest contrast! Luis Elizondo B3 is my favorite. B2 it's nice too. Michael Cohen B3 is my pick! It's easy to read and it's separates the buttons nicely. Matthew Nelson B3 BINGO! Mindaugas Baranauskas A3 Francesco Esposito even the toolbar at the top of the same color (gray), the pale blue of Windows is horrible Francesco Esposito A2 or B2 Raffaello Palandri A1 Osvaldo Meloni VERY DIFFICUL diria Tevez ! Ariel Shushan B3 - easiest to read Gonzalo Varela B1 for me. Classy, easy on eyes and clear to read, I avoid bright backgrunds in apps that you spend a lot of time workin on it. Keep it simple please. Cátia Gonçalves B2 So great to have so many feedback! Here is my preference: - B1 for properties panels, which have many buttons and controls. - B3 for panels as clipart and template, which have many pictures. In fact I like all the design options. While existing users' adaption when they upgrade to 4.0, I suggest we start from the normal style in 4.0, and improve gradually per wider feedback after. - Shenfeng (Simon) Thanks, Kevin Regards, Andrea.
Re: Presentation templates for ApacheCon NA 2013
Saransh, Thanks very much for your help! As I mentioned below, you can refer to the Apache OpenOffice template website http://templates.openoffice.org and ApacheCon EU 2012 templatehttp://templates.openoffice.org/en/node/8865. We need to design 1 cover slide and 1 content slide. Last time we made the visual design in 2000*1500 jpeg files firstly. If people like the design, then we can take the picture as background and build the template (which I'm good at and can help ^_^ ). - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/2/8 Saransh Sharma sara...@theupscale.in Count me in I love designing ...so tell me where to start ...bytheway i am an designer On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: Shenfeng: Thank you very much. I think given the season the Chinese contingent can be said to have fulfilled its obligations. I trust you will all have a very joyous Spring Festival. If any volunteer reading this wishes to approach the task, please get in touch. regards Steve On Feb 7, 2013, at 7:05 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: I talked to Xin Li, who was the template designer of 2012 ApacheCon EU. She kindly agreed to think about the template. But the problem is that next week is Chinese Spring Festival Holidays, and Xin may not able to work on it till Feb 16. Considering that we don't have much time left, I'd like to call for more UX volunteers to work together on the template design. If any one have interest in the template design, you can refer to the Apach OpenOffice template site here . And you can find the template used for 2012 ApacheCon EU here . I think the key is the background theme, which, IMHO, should have: (1) Apache logo + conference name; (2) some character of the host (e.g. for 2012 ApacheCon EU, we designed the ribbons of black+red+yellow to indicate that it was hosted in Germany). Just my 0.02$. And I also copied to openoffice dev list, hoping to have more volunteers. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/2/7 Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com I believe Daniel Gruno was kind enough to do some graphics for us for ACEU, and I believe ShenFeng Liu of the Open Office Group prepared the templates. I have copied them both in case they would like to, and have time to, help. regards Steve On Feb 6, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Mark Grover wrote: Hi, I was looking to see if there are any presentation templates available for ApacheCon NA 2013. I found some graphics at http://holdenweb.com/acna13gfx/ but no presentation templates. I also found a similar thread for ApacheCon Europe with some templates ( http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201210.mbox/%3c506bcc23.6070...@nanthrax.net%3E ) but nothing for ApacheCon NA 2013. Any pointers or templates would be much appreciated! Thanks! Mark Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com +1 571 484 6266 @holdenweb -- Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ Next event:ApacheCon NA 2013: Feb 26-28 http://na.apachecon.com/ Community events: Barcamp Feb 24 Hackathon Feb 25 Development Mar 1/2 Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com +1 571 484 6266 @holdenweb -- Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ Next event:ApacheCon NA 2013: Feb 26-28 http://na.apachecon.com/ Community events: Barcamp Feb 24 Hackathon Feb 25 Development Mar 1/2 -- Best Regards Saransh Sharma Upscale Consultancy PVT LTD. Disclaimer: -- This email was sent from within the Upscale Consultancy Services Pvt Ltd. The contents of this email, including the attachments, are LEGALLY PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL to the intended recipient at the email address to which it has been addressed. If you receive it in error, please notify the sender immediately by return email and then permanently delete it from your system.The unauthorized use, distribution, copying or alteration of this email, including the attachments, is strictly forbidden. Thank you.Please note that neither Upscale Group nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). --
Re: which version to use
Galileo, 3.4.1 is the most recent version. You can download it from here: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/2/3 Galileo Teco Juárez genital...@gmail.com hi I volunter I volunteer I begin to understand the development of extensions I have a question. which is the most stable version to start always downloaded the latest version -- *Galileo Teco Juarez* *Web:* http://80bits.wordpress.com *Twitter:* @genitalico http://twitter.com/genitalico *Linkedin:* http://mx.linkedin.com/pub/galileo-teco-ju%C3%A1rez/30/690/797
Re: Sidebar color scheme survey
Xin, Thanks very much for your summary! And the option 10 looks very good! I suggest we move forward to get a development build out. So that not only we can get more UX feedback, not also we can early start FVT for this big new feature. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/2/21 Xin Li lxnice...@gmail.com Hi all, Thanks for your votes and your feedback. I have summarized all votes from Facebook and mail list. The result is : A1:8A2:7A3:6 B1:8B2:8B3:10 C1:3C2:2C3:5 For control style, it seems that many user prefer proposal B (Simple line separator). As Kevin's suggestion,noise reduction and consistency would be best. So separators between clusters may be better. So we use separators between clusters to separate the buttons of cluster. For content panel color, it seems that there no obvious winner. I would like to share my thoughts on the visual style because it is already relate to color topic when we do the side bar migration. As we discussed before, the current grey color used in AOO is dark and looks out of style. We should do some light-weight change in AOO. So maybe we should start consider the light-weight color change when we do the design and avoid to use dark color that make the UI too heavy. So I create a light-weight gray proposal based on the option we discussed before.I use a light grey on the side bar and use a gradient for the section title. And I also align the same light grey to slide thumbnail panel background in Presentation. Because the content area on the center should have the highest priority, the rest elements should have lower priorities, and items with the same priority should be treated with the same way. I have added the latest design(option10) to AOO UX wiki page. Please see the latest design by the link: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals Welcome to share your thoughts and ideas. Thanks. 2013/2/9 Manuel del Valle m...@outlook.com I like proposal B (I think it's the most stylish one, and adds less visual noise), but I tend to agree with Kevin's comments: I'd like better a mix between B1 and B3: light grey panel + dark grey title. That way, it does provide certain contrast for the title, but doesn't draw too much attention to the panel itself, allowing the user to focus his/her attention on the doc. Otherwise, it does look nice ;) Greetings, Manuel -- Best regards, Xin Li 李欣 UX designer
Re: Vote now for 2013 Readers Choice Awards (About.com)
just voted for AOO. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/3/5 2 laoyi...@126.com +1 At 2013-03-05 05:10:32,Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We've received four nominations in About.com's 2013 Readers Choice Awards. In the category of Office Software we've been nominated for: -- Your Favorite Office Suite for Windows http://office.about.com/b/2013/02/19/vote-your-favorite-office-suite-for-windows.htm -- Your Favorite Business Software Solution http://office.about.com/b/2013/02/19/vote-your-favorite-business-software-solution.htm -- Your Favorite Site for Office Software Templates http://office.about.com/b/2013/02/19/vote-your-favorite-site-for-office-software-templates.htm -- Your Favorite Office Software Company for Social Responsibility http://office.about.com/b/2013/02/19/vote-on-your-favorite-office-software-company-readers-choice-awards-2013.htm For that last one the nominee is Apache Foundation. Now comes the voting, which lasts until March 19th. You can vote once per day, in each category. The website says, Please also feel free to spread the word to your community!, so I suggest we do exactly that and show that not only do we have great software, but we also have a great community as well. As they say in Chicago, vote early and often Regards, -Rob
Re: [RELEASE]: proposed schedule for AOO 4.0
Hi, all, I just posted the proposed release schedule to 4.0 planning wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Planning - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/2/22 janI j...@apache.org On 21 February 2013 18:27, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 20/02/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: 04/08 - 05/15 translation - I guessed ~5 weeks for updating the new strings. This can change when we know exactly how many new strings we will have. But translation for new languages can already work on the existing po files for 3.4.1. Looks good, but if the new infrastructure allows it by that moment we should aim at either having a usable Pootle instance (I mean, one where new volunteers can work) or all the PO files ready, so that we can point volunteers to PO files with no need to prepare them explicitly. Status on l10tools is that I am testing generation of po files at the moment. It is a very timeconsuming work, because I need to be 100% sure that genLang extract at least the same information as the current tools. genLang extracts a bit more information in some cases e.g.: - there a a number of messages marked [en-US] that are currently not extracted - some keyparts are not extracted correctly, typically missing root part of key - Itemlist, is only extracted with itemnumber, but often the items have names For these cases I modify the sdf file (manually correcting the error if you will), but that has to be done for all languages, so that I can later match keys. Once this part is finished, genLang can generate po files directly. genLang can already read po files, but need to be able to merge (extract from source, merge with existing po files) and write updated po files for all languages. The part is only rudimentary programmed and finally genLang will write new source files, containing the selected languages, this part is more or less programmed, but totally untested. Once the community has accepted genLang, we (I cannot do that alone) need to integrate it into the build process. so as you can see, I have a full schedule ahead of me, but I am still confident that I will finish in time for 4.0. Please remember that as soon as the extract works, we have po files directly available in svn...and if everything fails, we can use the current method to convert them back to source files. have a nice day. Jan I. Ps. the l10n commits at the moment is NOT the full picture, but parts I need tested on different platforms, once l10n is ready for others I will announce it on the list. I've see some l10n-related commits (good!), but I don't know where we are precisely. Important is from my pov that we start talking about the improvements that we make in public. I agree. A couple of screenshot and a brief description are often enough, and I would use the posts to recruit some new development volunteers too. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [Accessibility] IA2 migration status
Steve, Thanks for your update for good progress! When do you expect that we can start testing on the branch? I understand that it will take long time to finish the migration and enablement, but I think maybe we can do early testing for the implemented parts. e.g. for Writer, when you finished it. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/3/6 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com Hi all, THe AOO IAccessible2 migration work is ongoing. Now we have finished about 15% in the phase 3. The IA2 migration work for Writer will have the highest priority. Once we finished the UT, we will update the branch. -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Hi, RGB, Thanks for your trying of the sidebar! Here are my comments below. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/4/17 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi Ricardo, On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:29 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe there are some gremlins after all... I downloaded the build made by Ariel from here http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/ (rpm: as commented on other thread I cannot download the ARC build), installed it (without the desktop integration, though) fresh with a clean profile and obtained exactly the same problems as before with the buildbot: the sub and superscript buttons on sidebar do not work, (1) This issues sounds like the defect 122047. the icons on the Paragraph panel are on the wrong place (2) I'm not quite sure about this issue you mentioned. From what I see from the screenshot from Arial, Vertical Alignment buttons appears, but they should not. Is it the issue you want to say? and the sidebar navigator on Draw (3) We don't have any sidebar panel for Draw. We should disable it. Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? and Impress show nothing... (4) Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? Can someone else download the Linux packages and check if they work? I can reproduce it in my notebook, fedora 18 64 bits: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops_b.png I cannot reproduce it in 32 bits, so these might be not gremlins, but use of C++ primitive types instead of SAL types. Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Sidebar merged into trunk
Andre, 2013/4/17 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com On 17.04.2013 09:06, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Hi, RGB, Thanks for your trying of the sidebar! Here are my comments below. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/4/17 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi Ricardo, On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:29 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe there are some gremlins after all... I downloaded the build made by Ariel from here http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/developer-snapshots/** snapshot/linux_x86-64/http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/ (rpm: as commented on other thread I cannot download the ARC build), installed it (without the desktop integration, though) fresh with a clean profile and obtained exactly the same problems as before with the buildbot: the sub and superscript buttons on sidebar do not work, (1) This issues sounds like the defect 122047. the icons on the Paragraph panel are on the wrong place (2) I'm not quite sure about this issue you mentioned. From what I see from the screenshot from Arial, Vertical Alignment buttons appears, but they should not. Is it the issue you want to say? and the sidebar navigator on Draw (3) We don't have any sidebar panel for Draw. We should disable it. Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? Symphony did not have a sidebar for Draw. Apache OpenOffice does. Most property panels are as helpful in Draw as they are in Impress (line style and area style of shapes, text properties, etc., only the page layouts can not be applied) Thanks for your explanation! Then it sounds like a designed behavior, since there is no object selected at the beginning, so the properties panel shows nothing. Or, for a better user experience, should we set another tab (e.g. Gallery) in front as default for Draw? and Impress show nothing... (4) Could you please raise a defect in BZ, with [sidebar] on summary? Can someone else download the Linux packages and check if they work? I can reproduce it in my notebook, fedora 18 64 bits: http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/images/sidebar/**paraprops_b.pnghttp://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/sidebar/paraprops_b.png I cannot reproduce it in 32 bits, so these might be not gremlins, but use of C++ primitive types instead of SAL types. Regards --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: weekly developer snapshots
Juergen , Ariel and all, Thanks so much for your great work to have the 4.0 developer snapshot ready! According to the 4.0 planhttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Planning, the next step should be start the regression testing. While I checked the wiki and found many feature/enhancement items are still in open status. I think we need to check the status and update the wiki. For some of the items ( e.g. Interoperability Improvement, Gallery, Gradients, Pallette...) I think maybe we can close here, harvest the current achievements in 4.0, and leave further improvements in 4.1. And for some other items (e.g. Accessibility, Patch, Encryption UI), it looks like we can not contain them in 4.0, and I suggest to defer them out, and move to 4.1. Then QE team can make the regression test plan accordingly and start testing using the 4.0 developer snapshot. Any suggestion? - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/4/17 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi Ricardo, On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:52 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: I tried a couple of times to download the ARC file but failed: kget complains that cannot check the integrity and in fact the checksums do not match. The rpm pack downloaded without problems. It seems there was a problem uploading that file (all the others pass gpg --verify), I uploaded it again, now it should be fine. Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal]Improve Writer Table Header to Export Complete Info for Accessibility
It is a very good enhancement! While since we are going to enter the regression testing phase for 4.0, I wonder if it can catch up in 4.0? Or should be plan it to 4.1? - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/4/22 chengjh chen...@apache.org Currently, there is an accessibility issue for table header. If end users create Writer table and check the table header in the table dialog, the table header will have Table Header style and can be exported to pdf/doc completely,and Adobe Professional can recognize the table header correctly.That's right. But if end users don't check table header when creating table, and then set the table header through table properties dialog, the table header will not be set with Table Header style. Thus, the table will lose necessary header info when being exported to pdf/doc, Adobe Professiona will not recognize the table header. That's a problem. I propose the solve the problem to meet the complete accessibility requirement. -- Best Regards,Jianhong Cheng
[RELEASE] 4.0 planning wiki update and items check
Hi, all, I update the 4.0 planning wikihttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Planningwith the latest status. Per my reading, I added some comments in the status column. Following 2 items were already marked as done: - OpenOffice.org -- Apache OpenOffice - TOC interoperability improvement Following items are still on going, and need to be done in 4.0: - sidebar - Mac support - 3layer drop - new logo Following items though marked In Progress, but are really long term works, and I suggest we just close them and harvest what already done in 4.0. Leave the further improvement in future release. - MS Office interoperability enhancements - Performance Reliability improvements - More gallery - Adding Symphony gradients - Adopt palette to Symphony palette partially Following items look not containable in short term, and I suggest we move then to 4.1, or even backlog: - IA2 support (4.1) - Patch mechanism (4.1) - Encryption UI (4.1) - Fundamental Changes for Draw and others (4.1) - Improve Draw Feature (backlog) - Extension Manager (backlog) - OpenSocial (backlog) And my plan is to clean them up next week if no objection. Hope it can give a clear view of the scope of 4.0. Looking forward your comments. Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon)
Re: [Accessibility] AOO Writer gets a better IA2 support now
Great work, Steve! 2013/4/24 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com Hi all, The IA2 migration work for AOO is ongoing. We just finished a draft version which can let Writer get a better IA2 support. Now the branch build is ready for downloading. http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 Please try it! And if you found issues or bugs, please send mails to the aoo dev mail list or file them in AOO bugzilla. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Thanks! -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
Next Plan for AOO 4.0 Testing
Hi, all, I just want to update on our next plan for AOO 4.0 Testing. Since sidebar FVT already finished, we are currently preparing for a full regression which will cover the following areas: (1) Basic Function Verification (2) MS Interoperability Test (3) 2nd phase of sidebar testing (4) Defect verification So following works are on going: - Yi Xuan and Yu Zhen are inputting test cases in Testlink. - Yu Zhen and I are working on are test guidance for the Full Regression Test, and plan to publish it on our planning wiki for reference. - Then we wait for the next snapshot build from Juergen which contains the most recent fixes. I saw many people joined and volunteered for QA work. I will keep a list and contact you all when the Regression Testing is kicked off. Thanks very much for your supporting to AOO QA work! - Shenfeng (Simon)
Re: [RELEASE]: new SNAPSHOT build
Juergen, Thanks for your leading on the snapshot build! I plan to kick off the full regression test as soon as this build come out. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/5/3 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com Hi, I would like to propose a new snapshot build based on the SNAPSHOT tag which I have moved to revision 1478430 I will keep you informed when the builds for MacOS and Windows are available. @Ariel, I hope again it's ok for you Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE] 4.0 planning wiki update and items check
Just updated the 4.0 planning wikihttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Planningand 4.1 planning wikihttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Planning . - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/4/25 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I update the 4.0 planning wiki https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Planning with the latest status. Per my reading, I added some comments in the status column. Following 2 items were already marked as done: - OpenOffice.org -- Apache OpenOffice - TOC interoperability improvement Following items are still on going, and need to be done in 4.0: - sidebar - Mac support - 3layer drop - new logo Following items though marked In Progress, but are really long term works, and I suggest we just close them and harvest what already done in 4.0. Leave the further improvement in future release. - MS Office interoperability enhancements - Performance Reliability improvements - More gallery - Adding Symphony gradients - Adopt palette to Symphony palette partially Following items look not containable in short term, and I suggest we move then to 4.1, or even backlog: - IA2 support (4.1) - Patch mechanism (4.1) - Encryption UI (4.1) - Fundamental Changes for Draw and others (4.1) - Improve Draw Feature (backlog) - Extension Manager (backlog) - OpenSocial (backlog) And my plan is to clean them up next week if no objection. Hope it can give a clear view of the scope of 4.0. Looking forward your comments. Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) These suggestions seem reasonable given our time frame. Thanks for taking the lead on this. -- MzK There's no upside in screwing with things you can't explain. -- Captain Roy Montgomery, Castle
Re: Testing AOO 4.0 Upgrades
2013/5/7 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:58 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 6 May 2013 19:37, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:25 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 6 May 2013 18:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: What do we need to do to test AOO 4.0 - AOO 4.1 upgrade scenario? Do we already have documented procedures for the AOO 3.4.1 - AOO 4.0 upgrade ? (searching in wiki for 4.0 upgrade gives no result) If not I would suggest we make the documentation and test plan for the 3.4.1 - 4.0 before thinking about the next upgrade. One thing that really needs to be tested is a 3.4.1 danish (example) installation, upgrade to a 4.0 english installation. At this point in time I foresee a 4.0 release with less languages than 3.4.1 (with language respin). The tests should include fallback scenarios for users who want to stay with their language version. Two different things: 1) The upgrade notifications. This is triggered by an XML file we put on our website that the client checks, by default once a week. For example, here is one of the existing update notification files: http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update ok my mistake, but I still think we should discuss this for 4.0 and not 4.1. Let me be explicit. We need to test AOO 4.0's ability to be correctly process notifications about the existence of AOO 4.1. And we need to do that now, since after AOO 4.0 is installed on user's machines it is too late to fix any client-side bugs in this area. Some may remember, for example, a bug in AOO 3.4.0 where such notifications were disabled by default. And with 3.4.1 we had a bug where in some cases clients crashed when checking for extension updates. So we do need to worry about AOO 4.1 now, at least to the extent AOO 4.0 needs support in its code to handle notifications about 4.1. Rob, So my understanding for the purpose of this discussion thread is that we need to test the upgrade notice in AOO 4.0, and ensure it can work when future releases (e.g. 4.1, 4.2...) available. Then I totally agree that it is very important and we need to add it to our test plan. While I want to confirm some technical details (and some of my understanding below is from my reading of the URL you provided above): 1. Is the URL unique for each release? And this URL will work for all the platforms and languages packages for this release? 2. Is the upgrade notice only for release upgrade purpose, but not promotion of extensions or templates? 3. For (A) and (B) below, I suppose they are not in AOO 4.0 scope, right? 4. For the testing perspective, can the URL be customized in AOO build ? If yes, we may create a fake URL for development/testing purpose, without impacting external users. - Shenfeng (Simon) There is a different base URL for each version, pointing to a file like this that lists the available upgrades for that version. Since the update checking code has changed, we should make sure we have good testing on that, on all platforms. There was also talk of making that update check occur over SSL. That could be done by: A) Getting an SSL certification for *.openoffice.org or for the specific subdomains of interest or B) Moving the update notification files over to openoffice.apache.org, where we can presumably just use the existing Apache certificate However we do it, we need code changes in 4.0 to accommodate this, and testing as well. that is correct. 2) The actually install of 4.0 over AOO 3.4.1. My impression was that major upgrades like this installed into a new directory and there was no automatic migration of settings. If so the testing side of it would not be difficult. Same for reinstalling 3.4.1 over a 4.0 installation. Different directories, so no conflict. Well, I am not the best example, but the 3.4.1 danish spreadsheet, did not like 4.0 english version, until I saved them in 4.0. I am not sure if the problem is of general nature (danish-english) and roots in the document itself. And if installing in different directories, we need to help the user with a cleanup possibility. All good scenarios to test. -Rob rgds jan I. -Rob +1 to testing the upgrade scenarios. rgds jan I. Is it possible to put an update XML file on the server so we can trigger update checks, etc., to verify that this is working? As we know, we had some update checking crashes in AOO 3.4.1, so we really should try to get some test coverage of both positive and negative checks. Maybe one locale (English) we say there is an update, and in another locale (German) we say there is no update, so we can exercise both paths? Of course, we would then need to remove the test file from the web server
Re: Testing AOO 4.0 Upgrades
Oliver Rob, Thanks for your information! Will prepare for the test cases for the (1) upgrade check and (2) upgrade install from previous version. May come back to you for more details during the preparation. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/5/7 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com Hi, On 07.05.2013 09:30, Shenfeng Liu wrote: 2013/5/7 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:58 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 6 May 2013 19:37, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:25 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 6 May 2013 18:27, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: What do we need to do to test AOO 4.0 - AOO 4.1 upgrade scenario? Do we already have documented procedures for the AOO 3.4.1 - AOO 4.0 upgrade ? (searching in wiki for 4.0 upgrade gives no result) If not I would suggest we make the documentation and test plan for the 3.4.1 - 4.0 before thinking about the next upgrade. One thing that really needs to be tested is a 3.4.1 danish (example) installation, upgrade to a 4.0 english installation. At this point in time I foresee a 4.0 release with less languages than 3.4.1 (with language respin). The tests should include fallback scenarios for users who want to stay with their language version. Two different things: 1) The upgrade notifications. This is triggered by an XML file we put on our website that the client checks, by default once a week. For example, here is one of the existing update notification files: http://www.openoffice.org/**projects/update38/** ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update ok my mistake, but I still think we should discuss this for 4.0 and not 4.1. Let me be explicit. We need to test AOO 4.0's ability to be correctly process notifications about the existence of AOO 4.1. And we need to do that now, since after AOO 4.0 is installed on user's machines it is too late to fix any client-side bugs in this area. Some may remember, for example, a bug in AOO 3.4.0 where such notifications were disabled by default. And with 3.4.1 we had a bug where in some cases clients crashed when checking for extension updates. The defect we had in AOO 3.4 and AOO 3.4.1 regarding the update functionality - as far as I know - was the following: - If the user had upgraded an OOo 3.3 installation with AOO 3.4 or AOO 3.4.1 the bundled extensions delivered with OOo 3.3 were deleted from the installation, but the extension database still contains the corresponding entries. During automatically triggered update check for the application also an update check for the extensions is triggered. Due to the inconsistent extension database the deleted bundled extensions were tried to access. This causes an C++ exception which was not caught and caused a crash. This is fixed for AOO 4.0. So we do need to worry about AOO 4.1 now, at least to the extent AOO 4.0 needs support in its code to handle notifications about 4.1. Rob, So my understanding for the purpose of this discussion thread is that we need to test the upgrade notice in AOO 4.0, and ensure it can work when future releases (e.g. 4.1, 4.2...) available. Then I totally agree that it is very important and we need to add it to our test plan. While I want to confirm some technical details (and some of my understanding below is from my reading of the URL you provided above): 1. Is the URL unique for each release? And this URL will work for all the platforms and languages packages for this release? The URL to check for application updates is unique for each release. At least this is the case for the former releases and it will be for AOO 4.0. It work for all platforms and languages. The URL for AOO 4.0 will be https://ooo-site.apache.org/**projects/update/aoo40/check.**Updatehttps://ooo-site.apache.org/projects/update/aoo40/check.Update Have a look at main/instsetoo_native/util/**openoffice.lst and search for string UPDATEURL 2. Is the upgrade notice only for release upgrade purpose, but not promotion of extensions or templates? OpenOffice contains two update functions. One for the application update and one for the extensions updates. The update check for the extensions is automatically triggered (if configured) at the same interval as the update check for the applications. Each extension can provide its own URL for the update check, but there is a fallback (URL currently not known to me). 3. For (A) and (B) below, I suppose they are not in AOO 4.0 scope, right? 4. For the testing perspective, can the URL be customized in AOO build ? If yes, we may create a fake URL for development/testing purpose, without impacting external users. Yes, the URL can be changed - even when AOO is running. Search for file version.ini (Windows) resp. versionrc (other platforms) in your installation. It contains an entry
Start AOO 4.0 Full Regression Test
Yu Zhen Liu Ping, Thanks very much for your help to prepare for the test guidance! Now we have the latest dev snapshot build here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsets And we have the AOO 4.0 Full Regression Test test plan created in Testlink: http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/index.php . And we have test guidance here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+Full+Regression+Test+Guidance and here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+Defect+Verification+Guidance So I suggest we start the AOO 4.0 Full Regression Test now ! The test focus of this test circle include the following: (1) Basic Function Verification (2) MS Interoperability Test (3) 2nd phase of sidebar testing (4) Defect verification We will add more test cases (e.g. the Upgrade Check) in later circle. We already got some volunteers replied in mail list. Thanks very much! Will assign test cases in Testlink and send mail to you one by one. And looking forward more people to join and help the testing! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/5/7 Liu Ping doneyours...@gmail.com Simon ,yuzhen and all, You can directly click the Bug Queries link below for Defect verification in Bugzilla , you also can display query in page footer by selecting User Preferences-Save Searches and check the query below in bugzilla https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ AOO_Need_Verify : Numbers 1178 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=AOO_Need_Verifysharer_id=249289 AOO_Need_Verify_Calc: Numbers 292 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=AOO_Need_Verify_Calcsharer_id=249289 AOO_Need_Verify_Impress: Numbers 44 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=AOO_Need_Verify_Impresssharer_id=249289list_id=57850 AOO_Need_Verify_OtherProducts: Numbers 677 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=AOO_Need_Verify_OtherProductssharer_id=249289 AOO_Need_Verify_Writer : Numbers 165 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=AOO_Need_Verify_Writersharer_id=249289 Thanks the support of all On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: (Added dev in this mail thread ..) Simon and all, Here is the update of the preparation for full regression: - All test cases are populated to test plan AOO 4.0 Full Regression Test in TestLink - Test guidance for Full Regression Test and Defect Verification are ready and have published in wiki https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+Full+Regression+Test+Guidance https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+Defect+Verification+Guidance - Defect verification list are generated per different products with multiple queries Thanks Liu Ping to make defect queries. Thanks Simon for guidance and reviewing all preparation work above. Regards, Yu Zhen On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Simon and all, Here is the update of the preparation for full regression: - All test cases are populated to test plan AOO 4.0 Full Regression Test in TestLink - Test guidance for the Full Regression Test and Defect Verification are ready and have published in wiki https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+Full+Regression+Test+Guidance https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+Defect+Verification+Guidance On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I just want to update on our next plan for AOO 4.0 Testing. Since sidebar FVT already finished, we are currently preparing for a full regression which will cover the following areas: (1) Basic Function Verification (2) MS Interoperability Test (3) 2nd phase of sidebar testing (4) Defect verification So following works are on going: - Yi Xuan and Yu Zhen are inputting test cases in Testlink. - Yu Zhen and I are working on are test guidance for the Full Regression Test, and plan to publish it on our planning wiki for reference. - Then we wait for the next snapshot build from Juergen which contains the most recent fixes. I saw many people joined and volunteered for QA work. I will keep a list and contact you all when the Regression Testing is kicked off. Thanks very much for your supporting to AOO QA work! - Shenfeng (Simon)
Re: quick update: 50,051,990
A great milestone! Congratulations! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/5/15 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Working on blog post now, target tomorrow AM. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: proposed further schedule towards AOO 4.0
+1 to move forward. For the next snapshot without stlport, we need to plan testing on all the platforms (Windows/Redhat/Suse/Ubuntu/Mac). But I agree that acceptance level testing will be enough. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/5/31 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On 5/31/13 9:16 AM, Herbert Dürr wrote: [regarding dropping stlport4] The changes to make the codebase ready for native STL support are done. Builds with stlport4 enabled will continue to work as before. I suggest to use the --without-stlport option for all new builds though: Stlport is a great project, but the versions that OOo depended on had been released more than ten years ago. The library improved greatly since then from a feature, performance and standard compliance perspective. And of course many many bugs have been fixed [1]. In their stlport5 version they continue to improve significantly. Platform STLs have been inspired by stlport, improved greatly too and in the C++11 standardization process divergent views have consolidated. We can rely on the platform STLs. I agree that the timing of the suggested switch is not so good but the switch itself is overdue. A major version change is the right time to do this. [1] relevant examples of fixes that got into stlport releases newer than the ones OOo depended on can be seen at e.g. http://stlport.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=stlport/stlport;a=blob;f=etc/ChangeLog;hb=refs/tags/STLport-STLPORT_4_6 On 2013/05/28 2:38 PM, Rob Weir wrote: In theory every fix can cause bugs. But some fixes are more localized than others. Fixes with localized impact are easier to test. Widespread fixes are harder to test, because more code is potentially broken. The switch was rendered possible by many little changes over the last couple of months which got our code base more in line with C++11 expectations. Snapshots based on these changes have been and are already extensively tested by our great QA community. The switch itself is just another step in evolving towards a high quality release. Additionally testing has it much easier to find issues introduced by the switch should there be any. E.g. we have many testers and almost a thousand automatic tests. They work on different platforms. They cover a lot of different areas. The risk that a regression in that layer could remain undetected is very low. Automated testing ran its 940 autotests (in BVT, FVT, SVT and PVT) on different operating systems for 32bit and 64bit versions. The cross-correlation between pre- and post-switch builds is the same as the auto-correlation for test reruns: the same tests were successful on both sides, the same tests failed for both sides. to make clear that this is a very important and useful step forward. We have to do something to be able for a compiler switch and be prepared for the next steps etc.. Not only on MacOS but also on FreeBSD, the clang compiler don't like the old stlport version ;-) To be serious an upgrade to stlport 5 for example won't help us really. It is the same to switch to a new version or to get rid of this external library completely. We prefer the latter one. The working automated tests (at least same result as before) makes me confident that the change is ok. I propose that we prepare the next snapshot without stlport and will see what happened with our testing. If we run into obvious problems with the stl we will switch back immediately. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: problem opening older Word 6 doc with 4.0
Kay, Could you please share the bug ID when you reported it? It sounds like a ship stopper candidate if can be confirmed. Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/6/7 Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de Thank you! Since there still are quite a few older files around AOo 4 should be able to open them. Am 06.06.2013 18:25, schrieb Kay Schenk: 4.0 is giving me this message when trying to open an older Word 6 version document... Read-Error . This is not a WinWord 97 file. This is an old document I downloaded from a public server quite some time ago. it was readable in 3.4.1, but not now. I will file a bug and upload it. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Download stats per platform?
We can get the data from SourceForge by define the date range by ourselves: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/map :) - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/6/18 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 June 2013 21:45, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: In the first 1 million or so AOO downloads, the breakdown was 87% Windows, 11% Macintosh and 2% Linux. But, of course, there's been over 50 million. Do we have a per-platform breakdown of the numbers since then for AOO? It sounds like you want this chart: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/mediaresource/690f6d03-d666-4003-b1b2-8e44331e2511 From this blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_one_year_50 That's the one, thank you! Do you have the % numbers that went into the graph? That chart shows it day-by-day. The %'s vary over time. But the average over the year is: Windows: 88% Mac OS: 10% Linux: 2% So little difference compared to the distribution reported initially. It still reflects the distribution of desktop OS usage in the market. -Rob - d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Opinions expressed in this communication reflect the author's individual personal view, not necessarily that of an amorphous collective. The above statements do not reflect an official position of any organization, corporation, religion (organized or disorganized) or national football association. The contents of said note are not guaranteed to have been spell checked, grammar checked or reviewed for metrical infelicities. The contents of this post may not be suitable for those whose native language is not logic. Caution should be exercised when operating heavy machinery when reading this note, or even when not reading it. Seriously, heavy machinery is dangerous. Be careful. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [QA][Test Report] Weekly Status Update as of 20130614
Yu Zhen, Thanks for the report! We made big progress, thanks for every volunteers contribution! One more think I suggest we to focus in the next week is the testing on Base and Drawing. The problem is that we don't have any existing test cases for Base and Drawing for now. So besides creating test cases from scratch, I think we can also try another way to do quick testing for these 2 applications: people do exploration test, and report in QA mail group on (1) covered platform/database; (2) tested scenario/steps; (3) test result/defect found. So that we can identify any ship blocker defects in Base and Drawing quickly. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/6/17 Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com Hi All, We wrap up the AOO 4.0 Full Regression test this week, here is the weekly update (6/10 - 6/14): *Test execution:* 1. Testing of upgrading/updating a former AOO/OOo's version - Done and Passed 2. Acceptance testing on stlport change on Win7/Mac/RHEL/Ubuntu platforms - Done and accepted, with none of the opening defects found from this testing, is introduced by stlport. However, it needs development's confirmation. * Defect summary:* 1. 4.0.0 release blocker candidate defects are under reviewing, the total number is 66 now (original is 90) 2. Redhat specific defect with 64-bit Java, Bug 122485 ([Crash]OOO crash when apply animation for table/chart object) gets resolved, will set QE to verify * Issues quality highlight:* 1. Need to cover silent installation testing on Windows as it is not included in previous testing 2. The triage of bugs for AOO 4.0.0 release blockers is ongoing. 3. QAs are reminded to retest the failed/blocked test executions as the defects get fixed *Volunteer status: * 1. No new volunteers(total 20 so far) on test execution work 2. No new volunteers(total 6 so far) on defect work, the progress on confirming defects are low, need more to clean backlog of unconfirmed and resolved defects *Plan for next week:* 1. Locate AOO MSI file for slient installation testing on Windows 2. Work out test plan for AOO 4.0 Final Regression test and populate test cases in Testlink as fixing defects 3. Work with development to prioritize critical defects as 4.0.0 release blockers and assign them to Dev volunteers 4. Retest the failed/blocked test executions as the defects get fixed Thanks you all for effort on full regression testing, let's work together to move to final regression testing! Regards, Yu Zhen
Translation for Simplified Chinese (zh_CN) completed
Hi, all, I just completed all the translation in Pootle server: https://translate.apache.org/zh_CN/aoo40/ Can any one tell me what should I do to have the zh-CN translation included in the next dev snapshot build? Thanks very much! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/6/26 Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com Hi, all, I'm working on the translation for Simplified Chinese in Pootle server. There are 3900 words left till now, and it will take me a few more days. I hope I can finish it before next Monday. - Shenfeng (Simon)
Re: Translation for Simplified Chinese (zh_CN) completed
created a task in BZ: 122661 , with 4.0.0_release_blocker flag set to ? . - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/6/29 Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com Hi, all, I just completed all the translation in Pootle server: https://translate.apache.org/zh_CN/aoo40/ Can any one tell me what should I do to have the zh-CN translation included in the next dev snapshot build? Thanks very much! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/6/26 Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com Hi, all, I'm working on the translation for Simplified Chinese in Pootle server. There are 3900 words left till now, and it will take me a few more days. I hope I can finish it before next Monday. - Shenfeng (Simon)
Re: Translation for Simplified Chinese (zh_CN) completed
2013/7/1 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On 7/1/13 1:04 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: created a task in BZ: 122661 , with 4.0.0_release_blocker flag set to ? . Hi Simon, I have merged the translation already but it is not clear to me if you have taken the hint from Andrea regarding check mnemonics (~ characters) into account. Can you update the status here, is there a review necessary? See Andrea' mail Juergen, Thanks for your help to merge the translation! Per my reading of Andrea's mail, the is no more action needed for Chinese translation on the mnemonics check. In fact I reserved all the mnemonics during my translation. - Shenfeng (Simon) Juergen - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/6/29 Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com Hi, all, I just completed all the translation in Pootle server: https://translate.apache.org/zh_CN/aoo40/ Can any one tell me what should I do to have the zh-CN translation included in the next dev snapshot build? Thanks very much! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/6/26 Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com Hi, all, I'm working on the translation for Simplified Chinese in Pootle server. There are 3900 words left till now, and it will take me a few more days. I hope I can finish it before next Monday. - Shenfeng (Simon) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: propose next snapshot build based on rev. 1499347
+1 As I just counted, there are 44 release blocker defects in RESOLVED status. And more than half should be after the last dev snapshot build. So we need QE team to focus on verifying those resolved defects and close them as long as the new dev snapshot build is available. Thanks Juergen for your outstanding work! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/7/3 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com Hi, I would like to propose the next snapshot build based on rev. 1499347. The SNAPSHOT tag is moved and it is based on trunk rev. 1499345. The build will include the following languages: ast cs de el en-GB en-US es fi fr gd gl hu it ja ko nl pt pt-BR ru sk sl ta zh-CN Asturian (ast) Czech (cs), German (de), Greek (el), English United Kingdom (en-GB), English US (en-US), Spanish (es), Finnish (fi) French (fr), Scottish Gaelic (gd), Galician (gl), Hungarian (hu), Italian (it), Japanese (ja), Korean (ko), Dutch (nl), Portuguese (pt), Portuguese Brazil (pt-BR), Russian, (ru), Slovak (sk), Solvenian (sl), Tamil (ta), Chinese (Simplified) Note that I have added Greek. Building, signing and uploading will take some time. Juergen PS: cc l10n and qa list, replies to the dev list please - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Call for Translation Verification - Towards AOO 4.0 Release Candidate - 61 show stopper bugs are waiting for verification
Thanks Yu Zhen to drive the defect verification! It is very important to ensure all release blocker defects are really fixed. I noticed that there are 21 resolved release blockers are about translations. So I forward to I10N mail list and suggest we contribute to verify and close those items. 19 among the 21 are really feature/task to enable the languages in 4.0. I suggest we following the way below to verify: 1. Install the native language package of the AOO 4.0 RC build from herehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot . 2. Lauch the AOO 4.0 RC application, verify (1) the translation language in this package is correct; (2) new or open a document to check the basic functions not impacted. 3. If the verification in step 2 passed, please add comments in related Bugzilla record and change the status to VERIIFIED. 4. If any string need to be refined, you can open a new defect in Bugzilla. Below is the 19 records per my current check: 121816 Native-L pt Portuguese (pt) translation update fro AOO 4.0 122284 Native-L ru Russian (ru) translation for OpenOffice 4.x 122355 Native-L sk Slovak (sk) translation for OpenOffice 4.x 122360 Native-L hu Hungarian translation of AOO 4.0.0 122386 Native-L sl Slovenian (sl) translation for OpenOffice 4.x 122457 Native-L es [ES]Integrate last Spanish 4.0 translation 122467 Native-L nl Dutch translation for AOO 4.0 122468 Native-L de German translation update for AOO 4.0 122469 Native-L en-GB English (United Kingdom) translation update for AOO 4.0 122474 Native-L ja Japanese (ja) translation for for OpenOffice 4.x 122488 Native-L ko Korean translation of AOO 4.0 UI Help 122568 Native-L fi Finnish translation update for AOO 4.0 122584 Native-L fr French translation update for AOO4.0 122585 Native-L ta Tamil translation for AOO 4.0 122588 Native-L it Italian translation update for AOO 4.0 122631 Native-L gd Gaelic (gd) translation for OpenOffice 4.x 122653 Native-L el Greek (el) translation for OpenOffice 4.x 122670 Native-L ast Asturian translation update for AOO 4.0 122689 Native-L gl Galician translation update for AOO 4.0 The 2 below will require special check: 122192 Native-L pt-br Some strings directing to Oracle 122640 Native-L it Accelerators (mnemonics) missing in main menu in localized versions Any comments? Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/7/11 Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com Dear all, We have verified 20 resolved show stopper bugs since this Monday(July 8), there are now *61 *bugs in backlog which need us to do the verification as soon as possible. If you have a piece of time, please pick up your interested bugs from this list to verify. If you are the reporters for the bugs, it may only take your about 10 minutes for one bug. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=4.0.0_release_blocker%2B%2C%20Resolvedsharer_id=251929list_id=72804 Also, these bugs' fix are code related, the verification are expected from development. Bug ID Product Component Assignee StatusResolution Summary 122192 Native-Lang pt-br iss...@openoffice.apache.org RESOLVED FIXED Some strings directing to Oracle 122356 App Dev sdk j...@apache.org RESOLVED FIXED SDK broken after 3 layer removal 122444 Installation update notifications o...@apache.org RESOLVED FIXED Update Code to Reflect Final Update Server Destination for AOO 4.0 122478 General ui j...@apache.org RESOLVED FIXED Remaining of basis-link after 3-layer removal 122482 App Dev sdk j...@apache.org RESOLVED FIXED Impossible to build SDK C++ examples 122483 App Dev sdk j...@apache.org RESOLVED FIXED unoapploader sets wrong LD_LIBRARY_PATH 122500 Build Tools code o...@apache.org RESOLVED FIXED Impossible to build with Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition 122504 Installation code j...@apache.org RESOLVED FIXED Rename the source files to apache-openoffice-... to show clearly the affiliation for this project 122586 App Dev api j...@apache.org RESOLVED FIXED fix awt GridControl refresh 122647 General code h...@apache.org RESOLVED FIXED Python linked against system OpenSSL 122692 General code iss...@openoffice.apache.org RESOLVED FIXED boost build fixes for OS/2 We are in the build of AOO 4.0 RC build now, your help means much to it! Regards, Yu Zhen
Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)
Rapheal, I agree that the RC build should be tested. But I think rather than the time, what we really care should be what is tested. I'm looking forward Yu Zhen(our QA lead)'s RC test plan. If we get a satisfiable plan and the test can be finished within 3 days, I will give my +1 immediately. More people helping the test, the faster we can get it done and release 4.0 out. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/7/12 Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch Hi at all Moment Jürgen. Test a RC and final vote. within 72 houers is unserios. Pleas give a a full week for this. Else i will vote -1 because there is not enought time to make the final tests. Greetings Raphael Am 12.07.13 11:11, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice. This release candidate provides the following important changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the Symphony grant in OpenOffice. (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly interoperability issues (3) 600 defects are fixed (4) many more features and improvements are integrated For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+4.0+Release+Noteshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes . But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be updated and polished ... The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** Development+Snapshot+Builds#**DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-**AOOSnapshothttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-**output.htmlhttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185! Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0. The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [QA][Test Report] Weekly Status Update as of 20130712
Thanks for the report, Yu Zhen! Juergen just annoucned the RC build. Let's call for volunteers and start the RC build testing! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/7/12 Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com Hi All, We continue doing the AOO 4.0 Final Regression test this week as well as the defect verification, here is the weekly update (07/08 - 07/12): *Test execution:* 1. Final Regression test We have assigned 1804 text executions to about 20 volunteers, and completed about 68% in execution (1221 test executions done). We are closing this test window this week Sub TotalAssignedNot Assigned SubTotalRunNot Run Mac66446136695203 Win75254423529083 Redhat5145141283860 Ubuntu37537537500 Debian12120120 Total209018041221583286 2. Release candidate acceptance test - test plan is ready, wait for RC build, test guidance here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+RC+Acceptance+Test+Guidance *Defect summary:* 1. Defect verification(with flag 4.0.0_release_blocker+) : there are 59 bugs in backlog now, among of them, 31 are for translation, 11 are for code, which need actions from native reporters and development, respectively Accomplished this week (only for Function UI) Verified/FixedReopendWait for buildLook for env/platformNew fixed/added in backlog 182548 Backlog at end of this week TotalL10NFunction CodeFunction UI 59311117 *Issues quality highlight:* 1. We need to clean up 59 resolved/fixed release blocker defects, there is gap on translation defects' verification 2. Some of these defects were late changes, and we may have to wait for RC to verify some of them * Volunteer status: * 1. No volunteers are for left translation defects' verification 2. No new volunteers(total 20 so far) on test execution work 3. 2 volunteers are on defect verification work, make little progress * Plan for next week:* 1. Work with volunteers to verify defects as release blocker (total 59) 2. Continue to do Drawing exploration test on Mac and Linux 3. Start to do RC acceptance test providing RC build is ready Thanks you all for effort this week, we are towards to the release candidate of AOO 4.0, let's continue and make progress next week! Regards, Yu Zhen
Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)
Raphael, Is there any specific defect about the crash in selection copy/paste on windows 64 bit that you concern? If yes, could you please tell the Bugzilla ID? Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/7/15 Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch -1 We can't release a version with a potential crash in selection copy/paste on windows 64 bit versions. Am 12.07.13 11:11, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice. This release candidate provides the following important changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the Symphony grant in OpenOffice. (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly interoperability issues (3) 600 defects are fixed (4) many more features and improvements are integrated For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+4.0+Release+Noteshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes . But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be updated and polished ... The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** Development+Snapshot+Builds#**DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-**AOOSnapshothttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-**output.htmlhttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185! Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0. The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)
No release blocking issues found according to my testing in Windows 7. Feel a little pity that 2 of my opened defects not fixed in 4.0. But I believe it is more important to deliver 4.0 with so many valuable features ASAP. And we can keep continuous delivery to have more enhancement step by step after 4.0. So: +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/7/12 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice. This release candidate provides the following important changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the Symphony grant in OpenOffice. (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly interoperability issues (3) 600 defects are fixed (4) many more features and improvements are integrated For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes . But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be updated and polished ... The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185! Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0. The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify
Juergen, I believe it is a right decision to respin and include this fix. While besides verifying it on Windows 8, I also asked Yu Zhen to help verify the dll on Windows 7 to ensure the fix is no impact to Windows 7. Yu Zhen will update the result within hours. Thanks very much for your quick turn around on this critical issue! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/7/16 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On 7/16/13 2:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote: On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote: Hi Jürgen, I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens again I'll report right away and write down the exact circumstances. I think it might be possible that it happens only in very special circumstances, maybe dependant on which other software you're running while working with AOO 4. I also gave it a try on Windows 8 (64 bit) and there's no sign of a crash. Elaborating further on particular conditions. Maybe it's related to specific hardware, e.g. graphics card? @Samer: As you seem to be able to reproduce the issue constantly, do you have any special hardware? it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr. Do we need another 72-hour vote? If there are no objections I'd support making a patch without triggering a full vote. from my point of view not, I know the code, what we change and I can live with reviewing the generated patch between the RC and the new build. And the longer I am thinking about the issue and that it is now known that there is a potential problem I am getting more confident that we should do the respin. I will check what other potential important uncritical fixes can we include as well. But I would like to have it at a minimum to reduce the testing effort for the respin. Juergen -Rob I personally will run into a time problem because I have to move into a new flat and will be offline for some days until Thursday of next week. It's no big deal and somebody else can do the work and a good release is of course important ;-) If we want a respin than we have to decide today and ideally until 3:00 pm (UTC +2). Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
User Guides
Hi, all, I just noticed that the latest user guides we have is for OpenOffice.org 3.3, as below: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides I wonder if any one is willing to help to update the user guides for AOO 4.0? Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon)
Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2)
2013/7/17 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate (RC2 revision 1503704) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice. This release candidate provides the following important changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the Symphony grant in OpenOffice. (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly interoperability issues (3) 600 defects are fixed (4) many more features and improvements are integrated For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes . But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be updated and polished ... The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot The related and updated RAT scan for this RC can be found under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1503704! Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0. The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC 3:00pm on Friday, 19 July: 2013-07-19 3:00 UTC. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 - Shenfeng (Simon) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] End-of-Life for OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
2013/7/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org We currently have this link from the download page,from 2009, announcing end-of-life for OpenOffice.org 2.x: http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/eol.html I'd like to update that page to also state that 3.x version prior to 3.4.x are also end-of-life. Why? We're unlikely to issue any more security patches for 3.3.0 or earlier. So the concrete proposal is: 1) Update the eol.html page to state that OOo 3.3.0 and earlier are no longer supported. 2) Create a new landing page for users of OOo 3.3.0 and before who are using a language version that we do not yet have a translation. Explain in this page that the earlier versions are no longer supported. List what translations are currently available and where they can be downloaded from. Give information on how they can volunteer to help translate AOO into their native language. 3) Configure the update notification server to OOo 3.3.0 users to this new landing page, if their language is not already translated. (Where there is a translation we already point them to the download page) 4) Blog post/announcement on end-of-life for OOo 3.3.0 and earlier. The end result is that: 1) We made it clear what versions are supported. 2) We did our due diligence to reach out to users of older versions. 3) We encourage new translation volunteers. No rush on this. It does not need to be done at the same time as the 4.0 announcement. It can follow a week or so later. -Rob +1 - Shenfeng (Simon) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: User Guides
2013/7/18 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I just noticed that the latest user guides we have is for OpenOffice.org 3.3, as below: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides I wonder if any one is willing to help to update the user guides for AOO 4.0? We have a separate doc mailing list and volunteers who have been working on the wiki here: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide -Rob Thanks for the information, Rob! - Shenfeng (Simon) Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Some NL homepages that need updating for 4.0
I tried Chinese download page http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/download/ . But it looks I can not simply replace the global parameter VERSION with another parameter as 4.0.0... :( The design of the Chinese download page is similar to en download page. So I just wondering what makes 4.0.0 appear in en download page? - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/7/25 Xuacu xuacu...@gmail.com Thank you all. Today it's too late here, I'll put my hands on it tomorrow. Kind regards -- Xuacu On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jul 24, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Ricardo Berlasso wrote: 2013/7/25 Xuacu xuacu...@gmail.com Hi Marcus, all I've trying to find how I can translate that pages (and, perhaps, create new ones) with no luck so far. I guess I need an account somewhere and an access point to the CMS, but I've been unable to find it. Try this page: http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html specially the part for the bookmarklet. http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html#using-the-apache-cms-bookmarklet-simpler-method Regards, Dave Regards Ricardo I suppose it must have been explained 100 times, but I missed it all... could someone explain it one more time? Thanks in advance, and my apologies for the inconveniences. Regards -- Xuacu On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/23/2013 01:20 PM, schrieb Xuacu: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: [...] The problem is that these pages use http://www.openoffice.org/download/globalvars_improved.js which still has 3.4.1, but since it's global configuration I didn't change it. The current download page uses http://www.openoffice.org/download/globalvars.js that has the correct numbers but does not work as a globalvars_improved.js replacement in the IT site. Maybe Marcus can help describe what needs to be done here. I bet their are HTML changes needed as well as pointing to the new javascript. [...] Download page for Asturian is really outdated, and mostly points to our NL team page which is outdated too. I will now fix our NL pages, but it would be great if, as you say, someone describes what (and where) is needed to fix AOO download page to keep as much as possible within AOO site. I've created a .../ast/download/index.html directory + webpage. BTW: In the index.html I've set the variable NL_LANGUAGE to ast. That means that only Asturian files can be downloaded. http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/ast/download/index.html Happy testing and translating. :-) And don't forget to change the link for download on http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/ast/index.html; Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO 4.0 Release notes problem in numbering
Yohey, I wonder if you can send the your sample file to me and Steve in private mail? So that we can check the issue you meet. Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/9/4 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com Hi Yohey, My MSO version is 2010 64bit. The numbering 一、二、三、 was inserted from the popup menu -numbering library. Then the document was saved into the doc and docx format. Please make sure that the language settings of the AOO is correct. My locale setting and the Asian language setting for document are Chinese (Simplified). On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:58 AM, ��仁瀚 yohey03...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Steve, well, what's your version of MS office? I use the version 2010. But in fact the problem still existed as I tested it. Only the number 一二三 cannot be transformed correctly. I would like to know how you test it in detail. Just like how you enter or insert your numbers. Thanks for your help, this really disturbed me a lot. Regards, Yohey. 2013/9/3 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com Hi Yohey, I got the same wrong result on MS doc format. But using MS docx is OK. That is consistent with the AOO 4.0 release notes Support more Numberingbullet types in docx. Please check it. On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:02 PM, ��仁瀚 yohey03...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Recent days I have tried some improvement in the version 4.0 from release notes [1] . But I got a problem in my implementation. The item Support more Numberingbullet types in docx is under the index OOXML general. And that is where my question is. I use the function which is numbering to enter the following words in MS office: 一. some words 二. some words 三. some words 壹、some words �E、some words ��、some words 甲、some words 乙、some words 丙、some words And I saved it as docx. In fact, whatever I used doc or docx, I got the same result as I opened the doc or docx file with AOO: 1. some words 2. some words 3. some words 壹、some words �E、some words ��、some words 甲、some words 乙、some words 丙、some words The problem is that Chinese number (一二三 is equal to 123) cannot be convert completely in AOO. Does I got wrong understanding in this improvement or there is something wrong? Also, if this improvement is not talking about what I did above, how can I contribute and improve my problem? [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes Thanks. Yohey. -- Best Regards, Steve Yin -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
Re: Verify AOO 4.0.1 Release Candidate - Please verify resolved language bugs(show stopper)
Also forward to L10N group. 2013/9/16 Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com Dear all, Lots of language bugs are prioritized as 4.0.1 show stoppers and they have already been resolved. Please locate your interested bugs in below list[1] and do verification as soon as possible, your help means much to this release candidate! Quick steps on how to do: 1. Work on the Language bugs: Product is Native-LANG 2. Change the Status: from RESOLVED to VERIFIED and add the comment. [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=4.0.1_release_blocker%2B%3Fsharer_id=18list_id=89656 Regards, Yu Zhen
Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 (RC3)
2013/9/25 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com Hi, resending as my reply to list goes only to qa@o.a.o On 25.09.2013 12:17, Yuzhen Fan wrote: -1: I vote -1 for RC3 because of these 3 issues, the first two are function regressions from 3.4.1 and 4.0.0, the last one is for bad user experience on Redhat 64bit installation. Bug 123345 - [Regression]Docx embedded table display incorrectly Bug 123346 - [Regression]the bullet display incorrectly when open docx file in AOO Bug 123348 - Cannot integrate AOO 4.0.0 in desktop menu in Redhat6.4 64bit I can confirm that 123345 and 123346 are regressions which had been introduced in AOO 4.0.0 On the one hand I agree that regressions introduced in the latest release should be fixed in the next release. On the other hand we are already quite far in our planned AOO 4.0.1 release schedule and AOO401rc3 contains a lot of important bug fixes and improvements regarding our supported languages. Thus, I strongly vote for releasing AOO401rc3 as AOO 4.0.1 under these circumstances. From my point of view 123345 and 123346 should be release blocker for our next release. Regarding issue 123348: As far as I know this issue is not new and already known. I think a workaround exist. Thus, for me this is not a release blocker. Yu Zhen, do you think you can change your mind regarding your vote? Best regards, Oliver. IMO, if we have quick solution for 123345 and 123346, and the impact is limited, I'd rather to wait for 3~4 more days a RC4. And the testing and voting for RC3 can be inherited. For a quality release, ideally our target should be no regression. If it is difficult to give a save fix quickly and the issues are only about special samples, we can consider to defer them to next release. Just my $0.02. - Shenfeng (Simon) Regards, Yu Zhen On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: this is a call for vote on releasing the RC3 release candidate as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1. This will be an important update release for Apache OpenOffice 4.0 to fix some serious regressions and to introduce some new languages (Basque, Khmer, Lithuaian, Polish, Serbian Cyrillic, Swedish, Turkish, Vietnamese and Chinese Traditional). It is a further key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice. [...] The RC is based on the release branch AOO401, revision 1524958! Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1. [...] [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... +1 : release AOO401rc3 (a.k.a. r1524958) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 Herbert --** --**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**a**pache.orghttp://apache.org dev-unsubscribe@**openoffice.apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO 4 unusable under Linux64?
Rainer, It 123348 the issue you met? - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/9/29 Rainer Bielefeld rainerbielefeld_ooo...@bielefeldundbuss.de Hi all, Edwin Sharp and some other users found several bugs [1] under Linux64, in summary the conclusion seems to be that AOO currently is more or less unusable with Linux 64. Can some developers please have a look? Best regards Rainer Used Hyperlinks: [1] https://issues.apache.org/**ooo/buglist.cgi?chfield=[Bug%** 20creation]chfieldfrom=-360d**chfieldto=Nowcolumnlist=** product%2Ccomponent%**2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%** 2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%**2Cchangeddate%2Cversion%** 2Copendate%2Creporterf1=op_**syslist_id=93343o1=** substringop_sys=Linux64**query_format=advanced**resolution=---v1=linuxhttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?chfield=[Bug%20creation]chfieldfrom=-360dchfieldto=Nowcolumnlist=product%2Ccomponent%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate%2Cversion%2Copendate%2Creporterf1=op_syslist_id=93343o1=substringop_sys=Linux64query_format=advancedresolution=---v1=linux --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 (RC3)
2013/9/30 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org On 25/09/2013 janI wrote: I find it disturbing that, 4.0 was postponed due to QA issues, and we even made a blog about it. 4.0.1 goes out despite a public rejection from QA. The rejection was then retracted, so this isn't an issue any longer, but still it deserves some comments. We won't make a release just because it's time to release: we will promptly delay a release if some serious bugs are found at any point in the process. OpenOffice[.org] 3.3.0 had 10 Release Candidates. But the later we are in the process, the most serious a bug must be to be considered a release blocker. This is the only way to avoid that a release is perpetually postponed. It would be very good that the report from QA comes before the final vote, so that the biggest part of QA efforts is concentrated in the early RC stage and we still have time to study and apply fixes. When we are at the last voting day, blocking a release because of three bugs of minor-medium impact (2 are minor display bugs in DOCX import and one isn't an OpenOffice bug but a conflict due to one distribution's packaging choice) does not sound reasonable. We should try and get more volunteers involved with QA at an early stage, and possibly prepare RC2 only when we have a full QA report for RC1 and have discussed all possible stoppers. Andrea, Totally agree with you! While it really takes time to complete a testing with satisfiable coverage for the big product as AOO. And it takes time to analyze and judge the impact of the defects found. Then time needed depends on how many people will participate. IMO Yu Zhen and our QE community did good job in 4.0.1. While I really hope we can have more and more volunteers. So I wonder if we should define it as a process that we must wait for the testing to complete before we close the RC vote? It is reasonable to me, because personally I don't know how to vote without knowing the overall quality assessment result of the build. - Shenfeng (Simon) Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [CWiki] new default access rights active
Andrea, Please also add me. I want to update the Chinese release notes. username: liushenf full name: Shenfeng Liu Thanks! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/10/10 Yakov Reztsov yakovr...@mail.ru Нello, My username in the Wiki is: Yakov can someone please assign editing rights to me. -- Greetings, Yakov Reztsov
Re: [RELEASE 4.0.1][Product Update Notification Service] updated XML feeds for the former versions to be notified about version 4.0.1
2013/10/2 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com Hi, last status update before going live in about 2-3 hours. Native language landing pages for update notification according to the given feedback will be: - Czech - Dutch - French - German - Italian - Japanese - Spanish - Slovak As I got not feedback for: - Chinese (simplified) - Chinese (traditional) I will switch back to the default download site for these two. Oliver, Sorry for the late response due to the long Chinese National Holidays. I fixed the Simplified Chinese download page: http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/download/ - Shenfeng (Simon) Whenever a native language landing page for the update notification becomes available, we integrate it into the update notification XML feeds. Thus, just send a post to dev@o.a.o and I (or somebody else) perform the change. Best regards, Oliver. On 30.09.2013 14:59, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, Status update and open questions!!! Got feedback for - Dutch - German - Italian - Spanish - Slovak German, Italian and Spanish landing pages will be fine as I am being told. Dutch landing page links to the default download page, but it talks about version 4.0.0. Will this be changed for AOO 4.0.1 release? Slovak landing page rework landing page is in progress. Will it be finished right after the AOO 4.0.1 release? Missing feedback for - Chinese (simplified) - Chinese (traditional) - French - Japanese Chinese (simplified) landing page looks ok, but links to download page which does not show a download link at least in my environment (Win 7 64bit, English, Firefox) Are there changes needed for AOO 4.0.1 release? Chinese (traditional) landing page looks ok, but links to http://www.openoffice.org/**download/other-341.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/other-341.htmlfor the download as far as I can see. Is there a change in progress for AOO 4.0.1 release? I have given the wrong link for the French landing page - it is http://www.openoffice.org/fr/**Telechargerhttp://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger French landing page links to AOO 4.0.0 packages. Is there a change in progress for AOO 4.0.1 release? My posts still did not reach users-fr@o.a.o - I do not see them in the mailing archive. Japanese landing page links to sub page with links to AOO 4.0.0 packages. Is there a change in progress for AOO 4.0.1 release? Please provide feedback - Thanks in advance. Best regards, Oliver. On 27.09.2013 10:27, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi On 20.09.2013 14:03, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, forgive me for writing in English, but this post goes to several native language mailing lists and to dev@o.a.o and l10n@o.a.o. I am currently preparing the update of the XML feeds for our product update notification service for former OpenOffice versions (3.2.0, 3.2.1, 3.3.0, 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 4.0.0) in order to enable the notification about new version 4.0.1 For most of the languages the user is directed by the update notification to our main download side [1]. For the following languages the user is directed to the corresponding native languages page: - Chinese (simplified) - Chinese (traditional) - Dutch - French - German - Italian - Japanese - Slovak - Spanish IMPORTANT: Please drop me a short note, when the corresponding native langauge pages has been updated after version 4.0.1 has been released OR drop me a short note, when no update to the native language page is needed. So far, I got feedback for - German - Spanish Looking at the mail archives of general-ja@o.a.o, progetto-it@o.a.o and users-fr@o.a.o reveals that my post did not reach the corresponding mailing list. Request to the corresponding mailing list moderators/admins: Could you please check, why my post did not reach the mailing list. I will now check the landing pages for the following languages. If from my point of view the page needs to be updated for AOO 4.0.1 release and if I got no feedback, I will change the download landing page for these languages to the default download page to avoid user confusion. - Chinese (simplified) http://www.openoffice.org/zh-**cn http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn - Chinese (traditional) http://www.openoffice.org/zh-**tw http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw - Dutch http://www.openoffice.org/nl/**downloaden.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html - French http://www.openoffice.org/es/**descargarhttp://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar - Italian http://www.openoffice.org/it - Japanese http://www.openoffice.org/ja - Slovak http://www.openoffice.org/sk/**downloadhttp://www.openoffice.org/sk/download Please give feedback. Best regards, Oliver. When I have collected the replies for all the above mentioned languages I will enable the product update notification for version 4.0.1 BTW, if for your languages the user shall also
Re: [CWiki] new default access rights active
2013/10/11 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org Shenfeng Liu wrote: Please also add me. I want to update the Chinese release notes. Whitelisted: ~liushenf Shenfeng Liu Got, it. Thanks, Andrea ! - Shenfeng (Simon) ~yak (Yakov [Reztsov]) - note it's yak not yakov Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Link to Windows SDK 4.0.1 is broken
Henry, Do you mean the link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/SDK/Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.1_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe ? From the page: http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html ? I just tried it and downloaded it successfully. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/10/18 Polk, Henry henry.p...@caremark.com Hi. Just want to let you know when I click on download link to Windows SDK 4.0.1, web servers reports there is no such file. Thanks. Henry Polk | CVS|Caremark Corp | Advisor Technical, Dispensing Automation Team | cell 224-436-1432 | office 847-484-9306 | 2100 E.Lake Cook Rd, Buffalo Grove, IL, 60089 | hp...@caremark.com mailto:hp...@caremark.com
Time to start 4.1 planning?
Hi, all, It was one month since 4.0.1 release. And I noticed some some great works are going to be delivered soon. e.g. the IA2 framework from Steve, the Mac 64-bit support from Herbert, and Windows Patch mechanism from Andre. So I'm thinking, is it a good time to start the 4.1 plan now? We should deliver those great value to our users through a formal release ASAP! And IMO, even only the 3 items above can be enough for a release to be called 4.1. We also want to do OOXML improvement by integrating OSBA patches, and enhance user experience like in-place Input Field, and many other things... While, I think we can keep the continuous improvement across releases. From the record breaking download number since 4.0 and 4.0.1, I feel that keeping regular release is very important to response to our users, attract more new comers, and bring this product to success. So I suggest we start the 4.1 plan now, and set a target date. Since 4.0 was in July, 4.0.1 was in Oct, I feel some time in 1Q will be a good time for 4.1. I suggest to update the 4.1 planning wiki[1] and: (1) Set the target date. (2) Clean up the planning list, starting from leaving only the active items, and moving the rest to project backlog[2]. Any suggestion/comments? [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Planning [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Blog - Shenfeng (Simon)
Re: Time to start 4.1 planning?
2013/11/12 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 11/11/2013 04:12 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 11/11/13 3:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Shenfeng Liuliush...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all, It was one month since 4.0.1 release. And I noticed some some great works are going to be delivered soon. e.g. the IA2 framework from Steve, the Mac 64-bit support from Herbert, and Windows Patch mechanism from Andre. So I'm thinking, is it a good time to start the 4.1 plan now? We should deliver those great value to our users through a formal release ASAP! And IMO, even only the 3 items above can be enough for a release to be called 4.1. We also want to do OOXML improvement by integrating OSBA patches, and enhance user experience like in-place Input Field, and many other things... While, I think we can keep the continuous improvement across releases. From the record breaking download number since 4.0 and 4.0.1, I feel that keeping regular release is very important to response to our users, attract more new comers, and bring this product to success. So I suggest we start the 4.1 plan now, and set a target date. Since 4.0 was in July, 4.0.1 was in Oct, I feel some time in 1Q will be a good time for 4.1. Hi Simon, Something to think about: After 4.0.0 we discussed having a public beta with out next major release. If we think this is worth doing, then we should plan on two dates: 1) A public beta data, and 2) a final release date. For the beta to be useful I think we would want it to last 3-4 weeks, enough time to process any new bug reports, identify any critical regressions, and fix them. 4 weeks between both is a minimum form my pov But having a beta is of course the route we should take. What about taking into account to keep the possibility to release a second Beta version? It can include fixes for the most nasty and prominent bugs. Well, hopefully we do some amount of testing before we have a beta. So the goal should be for the beta to have no nasty and prominent bugs. The beta is a form of insurance and a way of setting expectations. For example, I think these two scenarios are technically equivalent: a) release 4.1.0 after normal testing b) release 4.1.1 to fix major bugs that we missed in 4.1.0 testing. and a') release 4.1.0 beta after normal testing b') release 4.1.0 GA after fixing important bugs found in beta These are technically the same, and take approximately the same amount of time. The difference is in user expectations. A beta designation tells the cautious user to avoid it. It encourages users who are willing to take more risk and help us by giving feedback. It also helps preserve the brand reputation by ensuring that the actual GA releases are high quality. (If we're not careful the users will develop a sense to avoid all x.y.0 releases, believing them to be low quality. Other products have run into that problem, even with x.y.1 and x.y.2 releases. I think it is better if we can avoid having that kind of reputation.) A 2nd beta might be necessary in some rare cases, but I think in most cases we fix the critical bugs found in the beta and just do normal re-testing of those areas in a Release Candidate. Hi, Rob, I think a public beta is a good idea! After the 4.1 feature development and related FVT completed, I think we kick off a beta testing which cover the major function areas, then announce the 4.1 beta. Then we run the Full Regression Test and monitor the beta feedback, from 4.0 experience the Full Regression Test will take at least 4 weeks, depends on the number of volunteers. Then the end game critical fix and RC build testing for 4.1. - Shenfeng (Simon) Regards, -Rob If we agree on that, we should expand the timeframe to 6 or more weeks. My 2 ct. Marcus I suggest to update the 4.1 planning wiki[1] and: (1) Set the target date. (2) Clean up the planning list, starting from leaving only the active items, and moving the rest to project backlog[2]. Any suggestion/comments? [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Planning [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Blog - Shenfeng (Simon) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
2013/11/11 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com Apache Open Office is not Microsoft Office. We make it as compatible as we possibly can but since MS does not tell us exactly how it organises its data that is not always easy. I don't think anyone has ever claimed OpenOffice to be able to provide complex MS documents with 100% fidelity. From the original mail, I'm not quite sure if the reported is about AOO's interoperability issue to MS Office format, or MS Office's interoperability issue to ODF format... If you draw your diagrams in a drawing program as opposed to a word processor you will find it more efficient. Then you can put the diagrams into the WP document as .pngs without much risk of things going astray. On 10 November 2013 21:30, Marouf Ahmed marou...@hotmail.com wrote: I finished my coursework on Open Office with great difficulty. I have outrageously angry with the software it took me half an hour to sort out images in my coursework. When I opened the document in Microsoft word viewer (as my school uses Microsoft office) all my coursework had messed up I was furious to find that the call outs that I used in open office did not appear on Microsoft office and that some images had got out of place, it had also rearranged my diagram. Sent from Windows Mail -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications https://theingots.org/community/faq#7.0 Headline points in the 2014 and 2015 school league tables www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, Unit 4D Gagarin, Lichfield Road Industrial Estate, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 7GN. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.
Re: Time to start 4.1 planning?
I just updated the 4.1 planning wiki[1]: (1) I added the section of Proposed Release Schedule, including the beta. But I left most of the milestones TBD. (2) I created a wiki page of AOO Feature Enhancement Backlog[2], and left only those active items (per my reading from the dev list) in 4.1, but moved the rest to this backlog. Any comments are welcome! [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Planning [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+Feature+Enhancement+Backlog - Shenfeng (Simon) 2013/11/13 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de Am 11/12/2013 10:36 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 11/11/2013 10:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 11/11/2013 04:12 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: On 11/11/13 3:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Shenfeng Liuliush...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all, It was one month since 4.0.1 release. And I noticed some some great works are going to be delivered soon. e.g. the IA2 framework from Steve, the Mac 64-bit support from Herbert, and Windows Patch mechanism from Andre. So I'm thinking, is it a good time to start the 4.1 plan now? We should deliver those great value to our users through a formal release ASAP! And IMO, even only the 3 items above can be enough for a release to be called 4.1. We also want to do OOXML improvement by integrating OSBA patches, and enhance user experience like in-place Input Field, and many other things... While, I think we can keep the continuous improvement across releases. From the record breaking download number since 4.0 and 4.0.1, I feel that keeping regular release is very important to response to our users, attract more new comers, and bring this product to success. So I suggest we start the 4.1 plan now, and set a target date. Since 4.0 was in July, 4.0.1 was in Oct, I feel some time in 1Q will be a good time for 4.1. Hi Simon, Something to think about: After 4.0.0 we discussed having a public beta with out next major release. If we think this is worth doing, then we should plan on two dates: 1) A public beta data, and 2) a final release date. For the beta to be useful I think we would want it to last 3-4 weeks, enough time to process any new bug reports, identify any critical regressions, and fix them. 4 weeks between both is a minimum form my pov But having a beta is of course the route we should take. What about taking into account to keep the possibility to release a second Beta version? It can include fixes for the most nasty and prominent bugs. Well, hopefully we do some amount of testing before we have a beta. So the goal should be for the beta to have no nasty and prominent bugs. The beta is a form of insurance and a way of setting expectations. For example, I think these two scenarios are technically equivalent: a) release 4.1.0 after normal testing b) release 4.1.1 to fix major bugs that we missed in 4.1.0 testing. and a') release 4.1.0 beta after normal testing b') release 4.1.0 GA after fixing important bugs found in beta Sure but we want to do a testing phase in public and not just technically. These are technically the same, and take approximately the same amount of time. The difference is in user expectations. A beta designation tells the cautious user to avoid it. It encourages users who are willing to take more risk and help us by giving feedback. It also helps preserve the brand reputation by ensuring that the actual GA releases are high quality. (If we're not careful the users will develop a sense to avoid all x.y.0 releases, believing them to be low quality. Other products have run into that problem, even with x.y.1 and x.y.2 releases. I think it is better if we can avoid having that kind of reputation.) Intersting, one can understand your arguments as points to *do* a second Beta release. ;-) A 2nd beta might be necessary in some rare cases, but I think in most cases we fix the critical bugs found in the beta and just do normal re-testing of those areas in a Release Candidate. Still no point not to do a second release. But before you go on with writting, please understand my suggestion as simple suggestion. I don't want to force it. When you deny it with a short post, then it's fine. No need to find many arguments that speak (maybe) against it. ;-) I'm not necessarily opposed to have 2, or even 3 betas. (Ha!). But I say let the facts, not preconceptions, determine what we do. Let's do a beta, look at the results, discuss and then determine the next Great, then you have understood what I wanted to say. Marcus steps. I *predict* that only one beta will be needed. But I'm not insisting on it. Regards, -Rob Marcus If we
Re: Media Wiki Proxy Error
2013/11/13 Graham Lauder y...@apache.org I'm having issues editing the Media wiki, I keep getting a 502 error. Everything works up 'til the submit process. Error as follows: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request POST /w/index.php. Reason: Error reading from remote server I met the same issue when editing cwiki today. Tried several times, and the last try worked... - Shenfeng (Simon) Does this need an infra@ post or a bugzilla issue? Cheers GL
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.1 to Bring Enhanced Accessibility Support
2013/11/16 Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org On 15.11.2013 17:06, V Stuart Foote wrote: Rob, Great news! Great blog post--subtle ;-) On a side bar, I see that Herbert and Oliver are hard at work correcting build issues for Steve's rev 1541847 integration done yesterday, getting the new IAccessible2 bridge to build cleanly on trunk is obviously now the priority. But when someone gets a chance there are several source files from the merge that will need to have ALv2 headers inserted--don't want the down stream folks to complain too loudly... Good point, thanks for finding it! I fixed the license headers to the ALv2 as intended and moved the SNAPSHOT tag to the new revision. The next SNAPSHOT build is expected to be ready for downloading and testing next Monday evening. Have a great weekend and have fun with the next SNAPSHOT build! Great blog! And Great work! I also translated this blog to Chinese: http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/news/IA2.html . Hoping we can attract more Chinese volunteers through this translation. :) - Shenfeng (Simon) Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: openoffice fuck u
您好！ 很遗憾你在使用过程中遇到了问题。我们很希望能够帮助你，不知你能否更详细地描述一下你遇到的问题？比如是哪个版本的OpenOffice？在什么操作平台上？是什么样的文件？（如果不涉及机密或隐私，能否将文件发过来，我们可以具体看一下？） 谢谢！ - Shenfeng (Simon) 在 2013年11月19日下午7:11， amoni...@nike.apache.org写道： 马勒戈壁开发些垃圾东西，害的老子辛苦一天的工作白费了，你们垃圾吧东西搞不好就别，鸡巴识别不了中文别他马用问代替啊，搞的老子会都恢复不了，你们垃圾的一笔，早地去死吧 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: review requested: [Bug 21280] when cut/copy rows/columns paste-special, shift down/right options are disabled incorrectly : [Attachment 82276] fix patch
Juergen, I just updated with a new patch, which I did UT with multiple copy/cut and shift down / shift right situation. Please help to review if you have time. It is my first time to do patch, so please tell me if I did any thing wrong. Thanks very much! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2014/1/14 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On 1/14/14 9:44 AM, bugzi...@apache.org wrote: Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com has asked Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com for review: Bug 21280: when cut/copy rows/columns paste-special, shift down/right options are disabled incorrectly https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=21280 Attachment 82276: fix patch https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=82276action=edit I will take a look in it ... Juergen --- Additional Comments from Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com A patch that corrected the logical to enable shift down and shift right radio buttons when cut whole row or whole column. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Contribute code for OOXML export
+1 It is a feature on top of the requirement list per AOO's early survey. Let's start! - Shenfeng (Simon) 2014/1/23 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org On 22/01/2014 Clarence GUO wrote: We have some pilot code for enabling OOXML export, developed by De Bin, Jian Yuan, Sun Ying, Jin Long... Although it still has some ways to go before ready for production, we'd like to contribute it first to AOO Very good news! Even if ODF remains the native and preferred format, users regularly asked for better OOXML interoperability. I agree this should stay in a branch and not integrated/released until it reaches the quality users expect from OpenOffice. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Newbie to openoffice
Kamini, Sorry for the late response. It is Chinese New Year Holidays this week, so I believe Liu Ping is enjoying her vacation now. Please go to: http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#winsnap and install Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_lang.exe_rev_num.exe ( e.g. Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe_1560773.exe ). - Shenfeng (Simon) 2014-02-02 Kamini Bonde kamini.bend...@gmail.com: Hi , I have created account on test link and my id is -ambitious.k Also have created account on apache bugzilla . I have a couple of queries here. 1] Do I need to introduce to qa team. 2] What should i install on my windows7 to study the application openoffice. Link?? Thanks Kamini. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Liu Ping doneyours...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, KAMINI Welcome to join in QA team If you have interest on AOO 4.1 FVT, please send your platform and Testlink ID (if you haven't a Testlink account, you can register one[1]), and I will assign test cases to you. You should also get installation sets from dev snapshot [2] and report issues in Bugzilla [3] [1]http://aootesting.adfinis-sygroup.org/index.php [2]http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#linsnap [3] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Thank you! On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Kamini Bonde kamini.bend...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am kamini from India.I am an engineering graduate and have been working in the field of software Testing since 5 years. I found openoffice to be quite exciting as its an open source application development. Looking forward to join the QA team so I learn more on testing and an opportunity to work with people around the globe. Regards, Kamini. -- With Regards, Kamini Bonde
Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta (RC)
+1 2014-03-06 16:55 GMT+08:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate (RC) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta. The Beta release is intended to reach more early adopters and to receive more valuable feedback to improve potentially critical areas for the final release. Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least 2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long and overdue must do shift forward to support newer APIs (replace deprecated APIs) and platforms on MacOS. And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now support for 37 languages. New languages for this release compared to 4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai. Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice. An overview of release issues can be found under: http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_Beta_fixes.html The release candidate artifacts (1) (source release, as well as binary releases for 37 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1573601! And a fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta The vote starts now and will be open until: Sunday evening, 9 March: 2014-03-09 11:00pm UTC. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 Beta [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... (1) the upload for the Linux 32 bit artifacts is still ongoing, but 64 bit is already available. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 (RC2)
-1 for RC2. For the defect I just found: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124639 It is a new regression defect. - Shenfeng (Simon) 2014-04-08 17:00 GMT+08:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate (RC2) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0. Apache OpenOffice 4.1 is a minor update with many bugfixes and at least 2 major improvements. It's the first version where we have the iAccessibility2 support integrated and available. A very huge step forward to reach and better support disabled users especially on Windows. The second improvement is the switch to 64 bit on MacOS. A long and overdue must do shift forward to support newer APIs (replace deprecated APIs) and platforms on MacOS. And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now support for 38 languages. New languages for this release compared to 4.0.1 are Bulgarian, Danish, Hebrew, Hindi, Norwegian Bokmal and Thai. Apache OpenOffice 4.1 will be a further key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice. An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under: http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc2/AOO4.1.0_RC2_fixes.html The RC2 fixed 4 further problems: [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124599 [2] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124607 [3] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124509 [4] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124394 The release candidate artifacts (1) (source release, as well as binary releases for 38 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1585426! And a fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc2/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 The vote starts now and will be open until: Friday, 11 April: 2014-04-11 11:00am UTC+2. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.0 [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... (1) the upload for the Linux artifacts is still ongoing, expected to be available in 2-3 hours. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qa-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: qa-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Windows 4.1.0 installer does not remove the startup group icon(empty group) after uninstall
Yu Zhen, Is there a defect in Bugzilla to trace this issue? - Shenfeng (Simon) 2014-04-10 8:42 GMT+08:00 Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com: Hi all, Here are the steps to reproduce this problem, I will check Bugzilla when it recovers to me: 1. Install 4.1.0 RC2 (clean install or upgrade install) 2. Run the installation again and select Remove in Program Maintenance of installation Wizard, and click Next (see screenshot post below) 3. Check startup group after uninstall finish Problem: the startup group OpenOffice 4.1.0 is empty(it is expected) while the group icon still remains Notes: there is no such problem when uninstall AOO by Windows's uninstaller in Control Panel Empty startup group remains, should be removed -- Regards, Yu Zhen
Re: [PROPOSAL][RELEASE]: remove 4.1.0 beta from Sourceforge and from Aapche dist
+1 Shenfeng (Simon) 2014-04-30 15:37 GMT+08:00 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com : Hi, On 30.04.2014 09:33, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, removing 4.1 Beta from dist is natural but I would like to propose that we drop remove the 4.1 beta from the SF server as well. Any opinions? +1 for removing the 4.1 beta 'bits' from the SourceForge server. Best regards, Oliver. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: AOO 4.1.1 code base and some additional proposed fixes
2014-06-11 17:14 GMT+08:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: Hi, a possible schedule for AOO 4.1.1 is not yet finally discussed and defined but I would like to propose some further issues that are related to make the code working on MacOS 10.9.3. First I propose that we develop the AOO 4.1.1 on the existing branch AOO410 because it should be a minor bugfix release with some translation updates. But no bigger features. And we still have no Mac build bot but I have updated my Mac where I have built the release in the past. Means I have no 10.7 system in place and have to build on MacOs 10.9.3. We made these changes already on trunk and I propose the following issues for integration in AOO 4.1.1 to make the build possible on MacOS 10.9.3. It will still work on 10.7. Well I have already prepared a build and did a first basic test but it will need some more testing of course. The issues are: 124896 remove obsoleted module-internal custom allocator in SAL, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124896 124908 remove custom allocator support in stlport-replacement headers, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124908 124422 Build no more possible with Xcode 5.1 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124422 124442 Mac and Java Oracle 1.7, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124442 More things later Juergen, Thanks for leading the 4.1.1 release! I just created several defect queries to help tracing the status: 4.1.1_release_blocker+? - https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=4.1.1_release_blocker%2B%3Fsharer_id=249089 4.1.1_release_blocker+- https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=4.1.1_release_blocker%2Bsharer_id=249089 4.1.1_release_blocker?- https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=4.1.1_release_blocker%3Fsharer_id=249089 4.1.1_release_blocker+, Resolved - https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=4.1.1_release_blocker%2B%2C%20Resolvedsharer_id=249089 One question: how will we use the Target Milestone field? Will it be used only for resolved defect in 4.1.1? - Shenfeng (Simon) Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: AOO 4.1.1 code base and some additional proposed fixes
2014-06-12 21:59 GMT+08:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: On 12/06/14 15:45, Shenfeng Liu wrote: 2014-06-11 17:14 GMT+08:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: Hi, a possible schedule for AOO 4.1.1 is not yet finally discussed and defined but I would like to propose some further issues that are related to make the code working on MacOS 10.9.3. First I propose that we develop the AOO 4.1.1 on the existing branch AOO410 because it should be a minor bugfix release with some translation updates. But no bigger features. And we still have no Mac build bot but I have updated my Mac where I have built the release in the past. Means I have no 10.7 system in place and have to build on MacOs 10.9.3. We made these changes already on trunk and I propose the following issues for integration in AOO 4.1.1 to make the build possible on MacOS 10.9.3. It will still work on 10.7. Well I have already prepared a build and did a first basic test but it will need some more testing of course. The issues are: 124896 remove obsoleted module-internal custom allocator in SAL, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124896 124908 remove custom allocator support in stlport-replacement headers, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124908 124422 Build no more possible with Xcode 5.1 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124422 124442 Mac and Java Oracle 1.7, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124442 More things later Juergen, Thanks for leading the 4.1.1 release! I just created several defect queries to help tracing the status: 4.1.1_release_blocker+? - https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=4.1.1_release_blocker%2B%3Fsharer_id=249089 4.1.1_release_blocker+- https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=4.1.1_release_blocker%2Bsharer_id=249089 4.1.1_release_blocker?- https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=4.1.1_release_blocker%3Fsharer_id=249089 4.1.1_release_blocker+, Resolved - https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremremaction=runnamedcmd=4.1.1_release_blocker%2B%2C%20Resolvedsharer_id=249089 One question: how will we use the Target Milestone field? Will it be used only for resolved defect in 4.1.1? I think we can set the target field to 4.1.1 when the showstopper flag is granted. The showstoppers have to be fixed anyway and it should be in sync. Juergen, Thanks for the clarification! I updated the 4.1.1 planning wiki https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.1 with the shared queries. - Shenfeng (Simon) Juergen - Shenfeng (Simon) Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [FEATURE][DISCUSS] The values of upper and lower spacing for default paragraph did the complete opposite
2014-06-13 15:16 GMT+08:00 Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com: Hi, The spacing size between lines is inconspicuous. But in some cases, it becomes a disturbing problem. This bug shows the problem: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125090. In the attachment, I put 2 screenshots to illustrate the issue. The patch is ready. Should we change it? +1 to change the default line space from bottom to top, which will make the layout align more to the content logic. Currently I spent a lot of time to change the default line space in my presentations. While currently we are working on 4.1.1. I think this change should belong to a big release, e.g. 4.2. - Shenfeng (Simon) -- Best Regards, Steve Yin
Re: [RELEASE][PLANNING]: possible date for AOO 4.1.1
Hi, Juergen, 2014-06-18 19:18 GMT+08:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: Hi, I am currently thinking about a possible release date for AOO 4.1.1 and believe a date in August would be good. The main question is how long the QA work will take? I think August is a reasonable target date. I checked the testlink and found Yu Zhen already created AOO 4.1.1 test plan with test cases added. One question: when will we (or did we already?) create a 4.1.1 branch? I'm asking because not only we need to input a build in testlink before we can assign test cases to QA volunteers to start the test execution, but also it can not be formally counted as 4.1.1 testing if performed on trunk build. Thanks! AOO 4.1.1 will be a bugfix release only with some additional translation update and potentially new languages. A further point is if we make a Beta or not or work with RC candidates only. Again it is a bugfix release only and every official release (and a Beta is official) needs more effort. And when I try to reflect the last Beta I don't think it was very successful. We had 30 downloads and thought we would receive the necessary and good feedback we need to release a good version. AOO 4.1 is good but we have some serious issues that were not detected during normal Qa and not during the Beta phase of active Beta users. I agree that Beta is not necessary for AOO 4.1.1. Currently we have 26 issues with granted or requested showstopper flag. Most of them are already fixed. From QA perspective, the 4.1.1 testing can early start as soon as the 1st 4.1.1 build available. But we need to define a DCUT milestone, by which date, all the fixes are delivered to AOO 4.1.1 branch and no more patch will be accepted unless identified as blocking or 4.1.1 regression. Then we can run the regression test after the DCUT to cover all impacted areas. - Shenfeng (Simon) I haven't seen any issue so far a translation update. If issues exist already please request the showstopper flag asap. We have no new strings and I know that update work or fixing of translation is already ongoing. We should plan in time with a deadline for translation updates. I think a possible date can be mid of July. We need a fixed date that people can plan accordingly, otherwise we run always in the same situation and changes are coming in late. But that don't scale very well and we should keep deadlines in mind. What does others think about it? Juergen PS: this mail is on dev only because dev is our main mailing list. We have again the situation that people active on QA or l18n don't read dev which is problematic because they potentially miss important news for upcoming releases. But sending info on all lists will result is split discussion that I would like to avoid. I didn't really worked in the past, even not with a reply-to filed. Well final deadlines will be communicated on the qa@ and l18n@ list as well. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE][PLANNING]: possible date for AOO 4.1.1
2014-06-19 15:25 GMT+08:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: On 19/06/14 03:55, Shenfeng Liu wrote: Hi, Juergen, 2014-06-18 19:18 GMT+08:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: Hi, I am currently thinking about a possible release date for AOO 4.1.1 and believe a date in August would be good. The main question is how long the QA work will take? I think August is a reasonable target date. I checked the testlink and found Yu Zhen already created AOO 4.1.1 test plan with test cases added. One question: when will we (or did we already?) create a 4.1.1 branch? I'm asking because not only we need to input a build in testlink before we can assign test cases to QA volunteers to start the test execution, but also it can not be formally counted as 4.1.1 testing if performed on trunk build. We plan to work on the AOO410 branch and reuse it, we work a minor bugfix release only. The released version are tagged and that's enough. I will upload a first dev build today or tomorrow That's great! Thanks! AOO 4.1.1 will be a bugfix release only with some additional translation update and potentially new languages. A further point is if we make a Beta or not or work with RC candidates only. Again it is a bugfix release only and every official release (and a Beta is official) needs more effort. And when I try to reflect the last Beta I don't think it was very successful. We had 30 downloads and thought we would receive the necessary and good feedback we need to release a good version. AOO 4.1 is good but we have some serious issues that were not detected during normal Qa and not during the Beta phase of active Beta users. I agree that Beta is not necessary for AOO 4.1.1. Currently we have 26 issues with granted or requested showstopper flag. Most of them are already fixed. From QA perspective, the 4.1.1 testing can early start as soon as the 1st 4.1.1 build available. But we need to define a DCUT milestone, by which date, all the fixes are delivered to AOO 4.1.1 branch and no more patch will be accepted unless identified as blocking or 4.1.1 regression. Then we can run the regression test after the DCUT to cover all impacted areas. we already in this mode and integrate only showstopper in the branch. We can align this with the translation deadline and after this date we can start or continue with the regression testing Great! We can plan the testing accordingly. Thanks, Juergen! - Shenfeng (Simon) Juergen - Shenfeng (Simon) I haven't seen any issue so far a translation update. If issues exist already please request the showstopper flag asap. We have no new strings and I know that update work or fixing of translation is already ongoing. We should plan in time with a deadline for translation updates. I think a possible date can be mid of July. We need a fixed date that people can plan accordingly, otherwise we run always in the same situation and changes are coming in late. But that don't scale very well and we should keep deadlines in mind. What does others think about it? Juergen PS: this mail is on dev only because dev is our main mailing list. We have again the situation that people active on QA or l18n don't read dev which is problematic because they potentially miss important news for upcoming releases. But sending info on all lists will result is split discussion that I would like to avoid. I didn't really worked in the past, even not with a reply-to filed. Well final deadlines will be communicated on the qa@ and l18n@ list as well. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [QA][Test Report] Weekly Status Update as of 20140804
Yu Zhen, Thanks very much for the update! I have run some test cases against RC1 on Win8, and updated the result in testlink. So far every thing is good. - Simon 2014-08-05 13:40 GMT+08:00 Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com: Hi All, We started doing the AOO 4.1.1 Full Path Regression Test(FPR) on June 25, and will close it before Aug 8. here is the bi-weekly update (7/21 - 8/4): *Test execution:* 1. We have assigned 176 text executions to about 20 volunteers, and completed about 63.6% in execution (112 test executions done). We are behind schedule to finish feature FVT before Aug 8. The planned completion is 84.8% as of Aug 4 2. From below test results distributed among platforms, we need to speed up the testing on Redhat Linux 64bit(because completed percentage is 46.67% which is lower than the average 63.6%) and Mac(made progress on Mac) Test CategoryTotalNot RunPassedFailedBlocked Completed [%] AOO Calc5318312266.04 Fidelity5310140.00 AOO Impress6827338060.29 AOO Writer5016322068.00 Total176649712363.60 PlatformTotalNot RunPassedFailedBlockedCompleted [%] MacOS X3218104043.75 Redhat Linux 32bit12381075.00 Redhat Linux 64bit4524165046.67 Ubuntu Linux 64bit181131394.44 Windows 7367290080.56 Windows 8176101064.71 Windows Server 2012165110068.75 Total176649712363.60 *Defect summary:* 1. We have verified 55 of 4.1.1 resolved showstopper bugs (Total 73 as of Aug 4, increased 22 since July 20. Backlog is 18 for all bugs) https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=doremlist_id=153261namedcmd=4.1.1_release_blocker%2B%3Fremaction=runsharer_id=249089 *Issues quality highlight:* 1. We have made big progress these two weeks to verify total 55 defects! We still need more defect verification volunteers, to verify language bugs 2. We(test cases assignees) need speed up testing on Mac Redhat Linux 64bitMac(made progress on Mac) *Volunteer status: * 1. We have total 20 test execution volunteers joined in FPR execution work since June 24, 2 are from Apache OpenOffice Forum 2. We have total 16 defect verification volunteers joined in 4.1.1 resolved showstopper bug verification work since June 23, 11 new joined these 2 weeks! *Plan for next week:* 1. Continue to do FPR test with RC1 and bug verification 2. Remind some test execution volunteers to complete their assignments 3. Continue to organize the FPR test and bug verification Thank you all for effort provided last week, we need your continuous help to catch up, especially on Mac/Linux Redhat! Regards, Yu Zhen
Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 (RC3)
+1 for the release of RC3 as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 - Shenfeng (Simon) 2014-08-15 15:15 GMT+08:00 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the available release candidate (RC3) as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1. Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 is mainly a bugfix release with some important bugfixes. And we can provide again more complete UI translations and have now support for 41 languages. New languages for this release compared to 4.1.0 are Catalan, Catalan (Valencia AVL) and Catalan (Valencia RACV). Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 is the continuation of high quality software releases. An overview of the integrated release issues can be found under: http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/AOO4.1.1_fixes.html The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 41 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds (alternative directly via http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669) *.dmg files are still not recognized as binaries and have to be saved manually (save link as ...). The RC is based on the release branch AOO410, revision 1617669! And a fresh and clean RAT scan output of this revision can be found under http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/AOO4.1.1_RAT_Scan.html Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 The vote starts now and will be open until: Tuesday, 19 August: 2014-08-19 12:00am UTC+2. We invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
