Re: [OSM-dev] Hello World

2012-10-13 Thread Pawel Paprota
It is not necessarily about changing WHAT is displayed but changing HOW it is 
displayed. Current style is simply not up to the standard in terms of esthetics 
for a project that aspires to be more than a database.

Pawel

Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:


Am 13.10.2012 00:40, schrieb Michal Migurski:

 How does a new map style typically graduate to use on OSM.org as an option? 
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_Layer_Guidelines

My personal view on this is that anybody expecting that simply replacing
the current default displayed style with a different one will change
anything is kidding himself in a big way. The pressure to include
everything and the kitchen sink will not go away and instead just
refocus. It might be good idea to change the misleading labelling of the
default style to make it clear that we don't think the standard for an
OSM data derived map should be totally overloaded, but again that is
just me.  

Simon


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Re: [OSM-dev] Hello World

2012-10-13 Thread Pawel Paprota
I am aware of and accept different point of views about the project. I am only 
speaking my own opinion and also I don't agree that it is not a discussion for 
dev list. Right now there is a unique chance to get restyling a shot because 
Mapbox is involved and obviously they have the expertise to do it or at least 
initiate and maybe lead the effort.

I do agree that wishful thinking threads do not belong on dev mailing list but 
I would say that right now a discussion like this should happen here, again 
because of Mapbox folks looking for areas to be improved. I would love to hear 
from them on this topic, preferably with all the gory technical details (mapnik 
0.x vs 2 etc).

Pawel

Pawel

Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:


Am 13.10.2012 13:55, schrieb Pawel Paprota:
 It is not necessarily about changing WHAT is displayed but changing HOW it 
 is displayed. Current style is simply not up to the standard in terms of 
 esthetics for a project that aspires to be more than a database.
I suspect (well actually I know) that you will find a very wide range of
opinions on your later statement, from supporting having no public map
at all (just a database) to the full blown google look-a-like. That
specific discussion is however very off topic for the dev list.

Simon


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