Re: [VOTE] Release Velocity Engine 1.6

2008-12-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

+1

On Nov 28, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote:


Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build that were
worth generating a new test build and delaying this (IMO), so i'm
moving on to a vote.

The test build candidate for release is still available here:
http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/engine/1.6/

Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build  
as

Velocity Engine 1.6:

[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __

The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
roughly 7am PST on Monday, Dec 1st.  If the vote passes, I'll push
this to the mirrors and change the web site and get Henning to  
deploy it.

With luck i'll be able to announce it by Wed.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

ok folks, i think the time has come; here's a build for Engine 1.6:

http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/engine/1.6/

please kick the tires and report any and all nitpicks soon.  PLEASE
try it out and look for problems.  (yes, i am begging!)  assuming no
one sees any problems, i'll call for a release vote next friday.

thanks,
nathan

p.s.  this release should rock; here's a rough list of new things in
this release:

Major memory and speed performance improvements
varargs support for object method calls
#evaluate( $stringthatcontainsvtl )
#define( $body ) for VTL blocks as references #end
#break for ending #foreach loops prematurely
Static utility methods via context.put(Math, Math.class)
fixes for many annoying little syntax/parsing bugs
#parse( mymacros.vm )
CommonsLogLogChute, ServletLogChute
Fixed and much improved StringResourceLoader
velocimacro.max.depth
programmatic inclusion of macro libraries
can now call fixed-length list methods on arrays
$velocityHasNext for #foreach loops
configurable connection timeout for URLResourceLoader
Uberspect chainability and link-ability
consistent, correct line numbers and macro/template stacks in logs  
and

exceptions



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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3

2008-12-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

+1

(And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)

geir

On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still  
available here:

http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build  
as

VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __

The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3.  Though if i get 3 +1s before
then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)

My vote is, again, +1

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so  
here's

the result for the record:

-1
Nathan Bubna
Will Glass-Husain

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
Thanks, Will.  I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported  
this

too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me.
Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that.  I guess this won't  
be

going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

-1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.

WILL


C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3- 
srcant

Buildfile: build.xml

clean:
 [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
 [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

clean-examples:

simple-example:

example-clean:

showcase-example:

example-clean:

struts-example:

example-clean:

test.clean:

prepare.compile:
  [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
  [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes
  [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

base-download:

commons-collections-download:

http-m1-download:

do-http-m1-download:
[get] Getting:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] To: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons- 
collections-3.2.jar

[get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Can't get
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto
C:\Doc
uments and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons- 
collections-3.2.jar


BUILD FAILED
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build.xml: 
104: The

following error occurred while executing
this line:
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml: 
40: The

following error occurred while executin
g this line:
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml: 
209: The

following error occurred while executi
ng this line:
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml: 
121: The

following error occurred while executi
ng this line:
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml: 
132: Can't

get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/m
irrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons- 
collections-3.2.jar to

C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-
beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar

Total time: 1 second




On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build, so i'm
moving on to a vote.

The test build is still available here:
http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ 



Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test  
build as

VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __

The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
roughly 7am PST on Monday, Dec 1st.  If the vote passes, I'll push
this to the mirrors and change the web site and get Henning to  
deploy it.

With luck i'll be able to announce it by Wed.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM, 

Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3

2008-12-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
why not end early?  :(  i did the initial CFV 72+ hrs ago and only
changed one source file between the initial and secondary votes, and
we have a quorum and clear majority in favor of this beta release.  in
fact, there's only one active PMC member who hasn't yet voted +1 on
this, Claude.  If you are giving essentially a -1 to this procedural
change, i'd appreciate a good reason at the least.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 +1

 (And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)

 geir

 On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still available
 here:
 http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

 Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as
 VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

 [ ] +1 Let's do it
 [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
 [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
 [ ] -1 No, because __

 The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
 roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3.  Though if i get 3 +1s before
 then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)

 My vote is, again, +1

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so here's
 the result for the record:

 -1
 Nathan Bubna
 Will Glass-Husain

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, Will.  I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported this
 too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me.
 Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that.  I guess this won't be
 going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.

 On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.

 WILL


 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant
 Buildfile: build.xml

 clean:
  [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
  [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

 clean-examples:

 simple-example:

 example-clean:

 showcase-example:

 example-clean:

 struts-example:

 example-clean:

 test.clean:

 prepare.compile:
  [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
  [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes
  [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

 base-download:

 commons-collections-download:

 http-m1-download:

 do-http-m1-download:
[get] Getting:

 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] To: C:\Documents and

 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Can't get

 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto
 C:\Doc
 uments and

 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar

 BUILD FAILED
 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build.xml:104: The
 following error occurred while executing
 this line:
 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:40:
 The
 following error occurred while executin
 g this line:
 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:209:
 The
 following error occurred while executi
 ng this line:
 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:121:
 The
 following error occurred while executi
 ng this line:
 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:132:
 Can't
 get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/m
 irrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar to
 C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-
 beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar

 Total time: 1 second




 On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build, so i'm
 moving on to a vote.

 The test build is still available here:

 http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

 Please 

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Velocity Engine 1.6

2008-12-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
Ok, here's the corrected tally, sent at the proper time.  :)

+1
Nathan Bubna
matthijs lambooy
Ilkha Priha
Erron Austin
Will Glass-Husain
Henning Schmiedehausen
Geir Magnusson Jr.


On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, here's the tally:

 +1
 Nathan Bubna
 matthijs lambooy
 Ilkha Priha
 Erron Austin
 Will Glass-Husain
 Henning Schmiedehausen

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 RAT looks good, builds for me with JDK 1.6.0_10 on i386 Linux (Fedora).

 +1

Ciao
Henning


 On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 07:08 -0800, Nathan Bubna wrote:
 Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build that were
 worth generating a new test build and delaying this (IMO), so i'm
 moving on to a vote.

 The test build candidate for release is still available here:
  http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/engine/1.6/

 Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as
 Velocity Engine 1.6:

 [ ] +1 Let's do it
 [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
 [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
 [ ] -1 No, because __

 The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
 roughly 7am PST on Monday, Dec 1st.  If the vote passes, I'll push
 this to the mirrors and change the web site and get Henning to deploy it.
 With luck i'll be able to announce it by Wed.

 On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ok folks, i think the time has come; here's a build for Engine 1.6:
 
  http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/engine/1.6/
 
  please kick the tires and report any and all nitpicks soon.  PLEASE
  try it out and look for problems.  (yes, i am begging!)  assuming no
  one sees any problems, i'll call for a release vote next friday.
 
  thanks,
  nathan
 
  p.s.  this release should rock; here's a rough list of new things in
  this release:
 
  Major memory and speed performance improvements
  varargs support for object method calls
  #evaluate( $stringthatcontainsvtl )
  #define( $body ) for VTL blocks as references #end
  #break for ending #foreach loops prematurely
  Static utility methods via context.put(Math, Math.class)
  fixes for many annoying little syntax/parsing bugs
  #parse( mymacros.vm )
  CommonsLogLogChute, ServletLogChute
  Fixed and much improved StringResourceLoader
  velocimacro.max.depth
  programmatic inclusion of macro libraries
  can now call fixed-length list methods on arrays
  $velocityHasNext for #foreach loops
  configurable connection timeout for URLResourceLoader
  Uberspect chainability and link-ability
  consistent, correct line numbers and macro/template stacks in logs and
  exceptions
 

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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3

2008-12-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I think that the more the merrier on things like this for purposes of  
participation, and in addition,  someone might find something and vote  
-1 and be convincing in their argument.



On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote:


why not end early?  :(  i did the initial CFV 72+ hrs ago and only
changed one source file between the initial and secondary votes, and
we have a quorum and clear majority in favor of this beta release.  in
fact, there's only one active PMC member who hasn't yet voted +1 on
this, Claude.  If you are giving essentially a -1 to this procedural
change, i'd appreciate a good reason at the least.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

+1

(And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)

geir

On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still  
available

here:
http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test  
build as

VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __

The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3.  Though if i get 3 +1s before
then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)

My vote is, again, +1

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so  
here's

the result for the record:

-1
Nathan Bubna
Will Glass-Husain

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


Thanks, Will.  I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported  
this

too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me.
Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that.  I guess this  
won't be

going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


-1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.

WILL


C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant
Buildfile: build.xml

clean:
[delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
[delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

clean-examples:

simple-example:

example-clean:

showcase-example:

example-clean:

struts-example:

example-clean:

test.clean:

prepare.compile:
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build 
\classes

[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

base-download:

commons-collections-download:

http-m1-download:

do-http-m1-download:
  [get] Getting:

http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
  [get] To: C:\Documents and

Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib 
\commons-collections-3.2.jar

  [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
  [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
  [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
  [get] Can't get

http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto
C:\Doc
uments and

Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib 
\commons-collections-3.2.jar


BUILD FAILED
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build.xml: 
104: The

following error occurred while executing
this line:
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src 
\download.xml:40:

The
following error occurred while executin
g this line:
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src 
\download.xml:209:

The
following error occurred while executi
ng this line:
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src 
\download.xml:121:

The
following error occurred while executi
ng this line:
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src 
\download.xml:132:

Can't
get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/m
irrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons- 
collections-3.2.jar to

C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-
beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar

Total time: 1 second




On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Nathan Bubna  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build, so  
i'm

moving on to a 

Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3

2008-12-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
I fully agree, but we've already had more time than usual for
participation and testing already.  The first test build was 9 days
ago.  The first CFV was over 3 days ago.  The odds of what you
describe seem low, and the cost would be two separate site updates,
for which have high odds of being the greater trouble.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think that the more the merrier on things like this for purposes of
 participation, and in addition,  someone might find something and vote -1
 and be convincing in their argument.


 On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 why not end early?  :(  i did the initial CFV 72+ hrs ago and only
 changed one source file between the initial and secondary votes, and
 we have a quorum and clear majority in favor of this beta release.  in
 fact, there's only one active PMC member who hasn't yet voted +1 on
 this, Claude.  If you are giving essentially a -1 to this procedural
 change, i'd appreciate a good reason at the least.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 +1

 (And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)

 geir

 On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still available
 here:
 http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

 Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as
 VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

 [ ] +1 Let's do it
 [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
 [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
 [ ] -1 No, because __

 The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
 roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3.  Though if i get 3 +1s before
 then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)

 My vote is, again, +1

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so here's
 the result for the record:

 -1
 Nathan Bubna
 Will Glass-Husain

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, Will.  I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported this
 too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me.
 Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that.  I guess this won't be
 going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.

 On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.

 WILL


 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant
 Buildfile: build.xml

 clean:
 [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
 [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

 clean-examples:

 simple-example:

 example-clean:

 showcase-example:

 example-clean:

 struts-example:

 example-clean:

 test.clean:

 prepare.compile:
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

 base-download:

 commons-collections-download:

 http-m1-download:

 do-http-m1-download:
  [get] Getting:


 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
  [get] To: C:\Documents and


 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar
  [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
  [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
  [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
  [get] Can't get


 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto
 C:\Doc
 uments and


 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar

 BUILD FAILED
 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build.xml:104:
 The
 following error occurred while executing
 this line:
 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:40:
 The
 following error occurred while executin
 g this line:
 C:\Documents and

 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:209:
 The
 following error occurred while executi
 ng this line:
 C:\Documents and

 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:121:
 The
 following error occurred while executi
 ng this line:
 C:\Documents and

 

Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3

2008-12-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
how does letting the vote run the full 3 days vs cutting it off early  
affect the site?


geir

On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:


I fully agree, but we've already had more time than usual for
participation and testing already.  The first test build was 9 days
ago.  The first CFV was over 3 days ago.  The odds of what you
describe seem low, and the cost would be two separate site updates,
for which have high odds of being the greater trouble.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

I think that the more the merrier on things like this for purposes of
participation, and in addition,  someone might find something and  
vote -1

and be convincing in their argument.


On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote:


why not end early?  :(  i did the initial CFV 72+ hrs ago and only
changed one source file between the initial and secondary votes, and
we have a quorum and clear majority in favor of this beta  
release.  in

fact, there's only one active PMC member who hasn't yet voted +1 on
this, Claude.  If you are giving essentially a -1 to this procedural
change, i'd appreciate a good reason at the least.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


+1

(And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)

geir

On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still  
available

here:
http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test  
build as

VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __

The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3.  Though if i get 3 +1s before
then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)

My vote is, again, +1

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so  
here's

the result for the record:

-1
Nathan Bubna
Will Glass-Husain

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks, Will.  I actually feel like Adrian (or someone)  
reported this

too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me.
Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that.  I guess this  
won't be

going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


-1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.

WILL


C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant
Buildfile: build.xml

clean:
[delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
[delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

clean-examples:

simple-example:

example-clean:

showcase-example:

example-clean:

struts-example:

example-clean:

test.clean:

prepare.compile:
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build 
\classes

[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

base-download:

commons-collections-download:

http-m1-download:

do-http-m1-download:
[get] Getting:


http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] To: C:\Documents and


Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib 
\commons-collections-3.2.jar

[get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Can't get


http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto
C:\Doc
uments and


Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib 
\commons-collections-3.2.jar


BUILD FAILED
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src 
\build.xml:104:

The
following error occurred while executing
this line:
C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src 
\download.xml:40:

The
following error occurred while executin
g this line:
C:\Documents and

Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src 
\download.xml:209:

The
following error occurred while executi
ng this line:
C:\Documents and

Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src 
\download.xml:121:

The
following 

Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3

2008-12-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
i have to get the velocity-site stuff (home page, download page, etc)
updated for every release i do.  if the Tools 2.0-beta3 release
happens pretty much the same time as Engine 1.6, then i only have to
update the site once for both.  saves me some headache.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 how does letting the vote run the full 3 days vs cutting it off early affect
 the site?

 geir

 On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 I fully agree, but we've already had more time than usual for
 participation and testing already.  The first test build was 9 days
 ago.  The first CFV was over 3 days ago.  The odds of what you
 describe seem low, and the cost would be two separate site updates,
 for which have high odds of being the greater trouble.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think that the more the merrier on things like this for purposes of
 participation, and in addition,  someone might find something and vote -1
 and be convincing in their argument.


 On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 why not end early?  :(  i did the initial CFV 72+ hrs ago and only
 changed one source file between the initial and secondary votes, and
 we have a quorum and clear majority in favor of this beta release.  in
 fact, there's only one active PMC member who hasn't yet voted +1 on
 this, Claude.  If you are giving essentially a -1 to this procedural
 change, i'd appreciate a good reason at the least.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 +1

 (And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)

 geir

 On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still available
 here:
 http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

 Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build
 as
 VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

 [ ] +1 Let's do it
 [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
 [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
 [ ] -1 No, because __

 The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
 roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3.  Though if i get 3 +1s before
 then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)

 My vote is, again, +1

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so
 here's
 the result for the record:

 -1
 Nathan Bubna
 Will Glass-Husain

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Thanks, Will.  I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported
 this
 too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me.
 Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that.  I guess this won't
 be
 going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.

 On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.

 WILL


 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant
 Buildfile: build.xml

 clean:
 [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
 [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

 clean-examples:

 simple-example:

 example-clean:

 showcase-example:

 example-clean:

 struts-example:

 example-clean:

 test.clean:

 prepare.compile:
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

 base-download:

 commons-collections-download:

 http-m1-download:

 do-http-m1-download:
 [get] Getting:



 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] To: C:\Documents and



 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] Can't get



 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto
 C:\Doc
 uments and



 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar

 BUILD FAILED
 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build.xml:104:
 The
 following error occurred while executing
 this line:
 

Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3

2008-12-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
and Henning for that matter, since lately i have had to resort to
asking him to do it after several fruitless attempts.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i have to get the velocity-site stuff (home page, download page, etc)
 updated for every release i do.  if the Tools 2.0-beta3 release
 happens pretty much the same time as Engine 1.6, then i only have to
 update the site once for both.  saves me some headache.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 how does letting the vote run the full 3 days vs cutting it off early affect
 the site?

 geir

 On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 I fully agree, but we've already had more time than usual for
 participation and testing already.  The first test build was 9 days
 ago.  The first CFV was over 3 days ago.  The odds of what you
 describe seem low, and the cost would be two separate site updates,
 for which have high odds of being the greater trouble.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

 I think that the more the merrier on things like this for purposes of
 participation, and in addition,  someone might find something and vote -1
 and be convincing in their argument.


 On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 why not end early?  :(  i did the initial CFV 72+ hrs ago and only
 changed one source file between the initial and secondary votes, and
 we have a quorum and clear majority in favor of this beta release.  in
 fact, there's only one active PMC member who hasn't yet voted +1 on
 this, Claude.  If you are giving essentially a -1 to this procedural
 change, i'd appreciate a good reason at the least.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 +1

 (And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)

 geir

 On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still available
 here:
 http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

 Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build
 as
 VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

 [ ] +1 Let's do it
 [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
 [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
 [ ] -1 No, because __

 The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
 roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3.  Though if i get 3 +1s before
 then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)

 My vote is, again, +1

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so
 here's
 the result for the record:

 -1
 Nathan Bubna
 Will Glass-Husain

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Thanks, Will.  I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported
 this
 too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me.
 Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that.  I guess this won't
 be
 going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.

 On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.

 WILL


 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant
 Buildfile: build.xml

 clean:
 [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
 [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

 clean-examples:

 simple-example:

 example-clean:

 showcase-example:

 example-clean:

 struts-example:

 example-clean:

 test.clean:

 prepare.compile:
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

 base-download:

 commons-collections-download:

 http-m1-download:

 do-http-m1-download:
 [get] Getting:



 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] To: C:\Documents and



 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] Can't get



 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto
 C:\Doc
 uments and



 

Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3

2008-12-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

we all know why

On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:


and Henning for that matter, since lately i have had to resort to
asking him to do it after several fruitless attempts.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i have to get the velocity-site stuff (home page, download page, etc)
updated for every release i do.  if the Tools 2.0-beta3 release
happens pretty much the same time as Engine 1.6, then i only have to
update the site once for both.  saves me some headache.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
how does letting the vote run the full 3 days vs cutting it off  
early affect

the site?

geir

On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:


I fully agree, but we've already had more time than usual for
participation and testing already.  The first test build was 9 days
ago.  The first CFV was over 3 days ago.  The odds of what you
describe seem low, and the cost would be two separate site updates,
for which have high odds of being the greater trouble.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I think that the more the merrier on things like this for  
purposes of
participation, and in addition,  someone might find something  
and vote -1

and be convincing in their argument.


On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

why not end early?  :(  i did the initial CFV 72+ hrs ago and  
only
changed one source file between the initial and secondary  
votes, and
we have a quorum and clear majority in favor of this beta  
release.  in
fact, there's only one active PMC member who hasn't yet voted  
+1 on
this, Claude.  If you are giving essentially a -1 to this  
procedural

change, i'd appreciate a good reason at the least.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


wrote:


+1

(And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)

geir

On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still  
available

here:
http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new  
test build

as
VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __

The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close  
time as
roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3.  Though if i get 3 +1s  
before

then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)

My vote is, again, +1

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:


Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1,  
so

here's
the result for the record:

-1
Nathan Bubna
Will Glass-Husain

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


wrote:


Thanks, Will.  I actually feel like Adrian (or someone)  
reported

this
too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine  
for me.
Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that.  I guess  
this won't

be
going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


-1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.

WILL


C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant
Buildfile: build.xml

clean:
[delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
[delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

clean-examples:

simple-example:

example-clean:

showcase-example:

example-clean:

struts-example:

example-clean:

test.clean:

prepare.compile:
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build 
\classes

[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

base-download:

commons-collections-download:

http-m1-download:

do-http-m1-download:
[get] Getting:



http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] To: C:\Documents and



Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib 
\commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection  
java.io.FileNotFoundException:

http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection  
java.io.FileNotFoundException:

http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection  
java.io.FileNotFoundException:

http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Can't get



http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto
C:\Doc
uments and




Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3

2008-12-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
ok, we've had this conversation, but until someone takes the time to
remedy that situation (one way or another), it is how it is.  so what
say you?  shall we wait two more days to make it a total of five for
voting and 11 for testing, or should we call this beta vote closed and
release the darn thing?

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 we all know why

 On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 and Henning for that matter, since lately i have had to resort to
 asking him to do it after several fruitless attempts.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i have to get the velocity-site stuff (home page, download page, etc)
 updated for every release i do.  if the Tools 2.0-beta3 release
 happens pretty much the same time as Engine 1.6, then i only have to
 update the site once for both.  saves me some headache.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 how does letting the vote run the full 3 days vs cutting it off early
 affect
 the site?

 geir

 On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 I fully agree, but we've already had more time than usual for
 participation and testing already.  The first test build was 9 days
 ago.  The first CFV was over 3 days ago.  The odds of what you
 describe seem low, and the cost would be two separate site updates,
 for which have high odds of being the greater trouble.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I think that the more the merrier on things like this for purposes of
 participation, and in addition,  someone might find something and vote
 -1
 and be convincing in their argument.


 On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 why not end early?  :(  i did the initial CFV 72+ hrs ago and only
 changed one source file between the initial and secondary votes, and
 we have a quorum and clear majority in favor of this beta release.
  in
 fact, there's only one active PMC member who hasn't yet voted +1 on
 this, Claude.  If you are giving essentially a -1 to this procedural
 change, i'd appreciate a good reason at the least.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 +1

 (And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)

 geir

 On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still
 available
 here:
 http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

 Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test
 build
 as
 VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

 [ ] +1 Let's do it
 [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
 [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
 [ ] -1 No, because __

 The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
 roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3.  Though if i get 3 +1s before
 then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)

 My vote is, again, +1

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so
 here's
 the result for the record:

 -1
 Nathan Bubna
 Will Glass-Husain

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Thanks, Will.  I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported
 this
 too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me.
 Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that.  I guess this
 won't
 be
 going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.

 On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.

 WILL


 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant
 Buildfile: build.xml

 clean:
 [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
 [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

 clean-examples:

 simple-example:

 example-clean:

 showcase-example:

 example-clean:

 struts-example:

 example-clean:

 test.clean:

 prepare.compile:
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and

 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

 base-download:

 commons-collections-download:

 http-m1-download:

 do-http-m1-download:
 [get] Getting:




 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] To: C:\Documents and




 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException:
 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
 ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] Error opening connection 

Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3

2008-12-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

anyone left to vote?

On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:


ok, we've had this conversation, but until someone takes the time to
remedy that situation (one way or another), it is how it is.  so what
say you?  shall we wait two more days to make it a total of five for
voting and 11 for testing, or should we call this beta vote closed and
release the darn thing?

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

we all know why

On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:


and Henning for that matter, since lately i have had to resort to
asking him to do it after several fruitless attempts.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


i have to get the velocity-site stuff (home page, download page,  
etc)

updated for every release i do.  if the Tools 2.0-beta3 release
happens pretty much the same time as Engine 1.6, then i only have  
to

update the site once for both.  saves me some headache.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


how does letting the vote run the full 3 days vs cutting it off  
early

affect
the site?

geir

On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:


I fully agree, but we've already had more time than usual for
participation and testing already.  The first test build was 9  
days

ago.  The first CFV was over 3 days ago.  The odds of what you
describe seem low, and the cost would be two separate site  
updates,

for which have high odds of being the greater trouble.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


wrote:


I think that the more the merrier on things like this for  
purposes of
participation, and in addition,  someone might find something  
and vote

-1
and be convincing in their argument.


On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

why not end early?  :(  i did the initial CFV 72+ hrs ago and  
only
changed one source file between the initial and secondary  
votes, and
we have a quorum and clear majority in favor of this beta  
release.

in
fact, there's only one active PMC member who hasn't yet voted  
+1 on
this, Claude.  If you are giving essentially a -1 to this  
procedural

change, i'd appreciate a good reason at the least.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


wrote:


+1

(And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)

geir

On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:


Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still
available
here:
http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new  
test

build
as
VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __

The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close  
time as
roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3.  Though if i get 3 +1s  
before

then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)

My vote is, again, +1

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


wrote:


Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to  
-1, so

here's
the result for the record:

-1
Nathan Bubna
Will Glass-Husain

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


wrote:


Thanks, Will.  I actually feel like Adrian (or someone)  
reported

this
too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine  
for me.
Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that.  I guess  
this

won't
be
going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


-1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.

WILL


C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant
Buildfile: build.xml

clean:
[delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
[delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

clean-examples:

simple-example:

example-clean:

showcase-example:

example-clean:

struts-example:

example-clean:

test.clean:

prepare.compile:
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and

Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src 
\build\classes

[mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

base-download:

commons-collections-download:

http-m1-download:

do-http-m1-download:
[get] Getting:




http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] To: C:\Documents and




Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib 
\commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error opening connection  
java.io.FileNotFoundException:

http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti
ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
[get] Error 

Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3

2008-12-01 Thread Nathan Bubna
if anyone else is planning to vote, they've made no indication of it.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 anyone left to vote?

 On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 ok, we've had this conversation, but until someone takes the time to
 remedy that situation (one way or another), it is how it is.  so what
 say you?  shall we wait two more days to make it a total of five for
 voting and 11 for testing, or should we call this beta vote closed and
 release the darn thing?

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 we all know why

 On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 and Henning for that matter, since lately i have had to resort to
 asking him to do it after several fruitless attempts.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i have to get the velocity-site stuff (home page, download page, etc)
 updated for every release i do.  if the Tools 2.0-beta3 release
 happens pretty much the same time as Engine 1.6, then i only have to
 update the site once for both.  saves me some headache.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 how does letting the vote run the full 3 days vs cutting it off early
 affect
 the site?

 geir

 On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 I fully agree, but we've already had more time than usual for
 participation and testing already.  The first test build was 9 days
 ago.  The first CFV was over 3 days ago.  The odds of what you
 describe seem low, and the cost would be two separate site updates,
 for which have high odds of being the greater trouble.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I think that the more the merrier on things like this for purposes
 of
 participation, and in addition,  someone might find something and
 vote
 -1
 and be convincing in their argument.


 On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:21 AM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 why not end early?  :(  i did the initial CFV 72+ hrs ago and only
 changed one source file between the initial and secondary votes,
 and
 we have a quorum and clear majority in favor of this beta release.
 in
 fact, there's only one active PMC member who hasn't yet voted +1 on
 this, Claude.  If you are giving essentially a -1 to this
 procedural
 change, i'd appreciate a good reason at the least.

 On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 +1

 (And don't end it early even w/ 3 +1s  :)

 geir

 On Nov 30, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Nathan Bubna wrote:

 Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still
 available
 here:
 http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/

 Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test
 build
 as
 VelocityTools 2.0-beta3:

 [ ] +1 Let's do it
 [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
 [ ] -0  Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
 [ ] -1 No, because __

 The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time
 as
 roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3.  Though if i get 3 +1s
 before
 then, i'll end it early.  It's just a beta, after all. :)

 My vote is, again, +1

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so
 here's
 the result for the record:

 -1
 Nathan Bubna
 Will Glass-Husain

 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Thanks, Will.  I actually feel like Adrian (or someone)
 reported
 this
 too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for
 me.
 Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that.  I guess this
 won't
 be
 going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6.

 On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -1. Doesn't build.  see error report below.

 WILL


 C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant
 Buildfile: build.xml

 clean:
 [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
 [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

 clean-examples:

 simple-example:

 example-clean:

 showcase-example:

 example-clean:

 struts-example:

 example-clean:

 test.clean:

 prepare.compile:
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and


 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes
 [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and
 Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist

 base-download:

 commons-collections-download:

 http-m1-download:

 do-http-m1-download:
 [get] Getting:





 http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar
 [get] To: C:\Documents and