Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 08.12.2011, 19:50 -0800 schrieb Eric Smith:
 I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE 
 desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba.  MATE is a fork of 
 GNOME 2.  

MATE is just replacing gnome with mate everywhere, whether or not it
was necessary.  We'd need to re-evaluate this on a distro level and
build against the gnome-* packages where possible, otherwise we
duplicating system libraries.  This is a no-go and forbidden by
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Duplication_of_system_libraries

This really worries me because I don't think that MATE well maintained
and will be able to deal with security issues or bugfixes in a timely
manner.

 Would anyone like to see the MATE desktop environment as an official 
 feature of Fedora 17 or Fedora 18?

Although I am no friend of GNOME 3, I don't think MATE should become an
official feature: Advertising it as a feature looks backwards and we
currently don't know where MATE is going.  I'm not even sure it will
still be alive by F18.

Regards,
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Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

What do you think about Trinity Desktop? I liked KDE3. Is there a
chance to include this DE in Fedora? Unlike the MATE, TD is well
maintained and there is a development community.

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Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On 09/12/11 07:03, Eric Smith wrote:

 I tried switching to Xfce, and found it to be a lot better than Gnome 3,
 but it was still missing a lot of things I'm accustomed to in Gnome 2.

 I'm not trying to start another advocacy thread.  I'm just trying to
 package up an alternative for people like me who liked Gnome 2 better.

 Eric


Why not put the energy into,
getting what you need into Xfce\LXDE\?.
Rather than clutch at a shooting star.


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Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 What do you think about Trinity Desktop? I liked KDE3. Is there a
 chance to include this DE in Fedora?

Please NO! We worked hard on making kdelibs3 apps work well in KDE Plasma 4
sessions. Trying to support Trinity sessions too is going to make a big
mess. Another big problem is that current Trinity isn't even
binary-compatible with KDE 3.5 anymore, which makes its kdelibs not suitable
to run existing KDE 3 binaries, even though (last I checked) they didn't
bump the sonames. (I think renaming all libraries like MATE is doing is
actually not that bad an idea if you have no clue about binary compatibility
and are going to horribly break it.)

 Unlike the MATE, TD is well maintained

Hahaha, LOL, good one!

http://vizzzion.org/blog/2010/05/trinity-and-the-challenges-of-continuing-kde-3/
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/11/the-grass-has-always-been-greener-on-the-other-side-of-the-fence/

(The comments in the latter also discuss the binary compatibility issues.)

 and there is a development community.

LOL, a community called Timothy Pearson…

Don't make me laugh.

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Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/09/2011 04:12 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 On 12/09/2011 09:20 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
 I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
 desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba.  MATE is a fork of
 GNOME 2.  I expect that it will take me a few months to package the
 remaining MATE packages.

 Would anyone like to see the MATE desktop environment as an official
 feature of Fedora 17 or Fedora 18?
 Sure but is MATE actively developed and does it have more than one
 developer?  I am worried about sustainability.

How can you be worried about maintainability given that we already have 
unmaintained and poorly maintained packages in the distribution?

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Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/09/2011 03:50 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
 I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
 desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba.  MATE is a fork of
 GNOME 2.  I expect that it will take me a few months to package the
 remaining MATE packages.

 Would anyone like to see the MATE desktop environment as an official
 feature of Fedora 17 or Fedora 18?

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=765666
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=765667


Is it not better to just create extension and an theme on spin with 
gnome3 that bring back the functionality you seek?

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Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/09/2011 05:17 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
 On 12/09/2011 04:12 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 On 12/09/2011 09:20 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
 I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
 desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba.  MATE is a fork of
 GNOME 2.  I expect that it will take me a few months to package the
 remaining MATE packages.

 Would anyone like to see the MATE desktop environment as an official
 feature of Fedora 17 or Fedora 18?
 Sure but is MATE actively developed and does it have more than one
 developer?  I am worried about sustainability.
 
 How can you be worried about maintainability given that we already have 
 unmaintained and poorly maintained packages in the distribution?

When you have problems, the solution is to fix it.  Not add more.

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Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/09/2011 11:58 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 one
   developer?  I am worried about sustainability.
   
   How can you be worried about maintainability given that we already have
   unmaintained and poorly maintained packages in the distribution?
 When you have problems, the solution is to fix it.  Not add more.

Agreed but given that we already ship unmaintained either upstream or 
within the distribution components then I fail to understand why adding 
couple of more to the already existing pile is going to make any 
difference it's not like the current situation would be going from bad 
to worse since we already are at worse from my pov...

My personally view on his proposal is that he should rather be spending 
his time and energy creating the required extension that bring the 
functionality he seeks from Gnome2 to Gnome3 and an theme to go along 
with it if he also wants the old look and feel then create a spin with 
that rather then being doing it this way.

If he's willing to do the necessary legwork to make this work I dont see 
why he cant.

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Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 12/09/2011 12:50 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
 On 12/09/2011 03:50 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
 I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
 desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba.  MATE is a fork of
 GNOME 2.  I expect that it will take me a few months to package the
 remaining MATE packages.

 Would anyone like to see the MATE desktop environment as an official
 feature of Fedora 17 or Fedora 18?

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=765666
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=765667


 Is it not better to just create extension and an theme on spin with
 gnome3 that bring back the functionality you seek?

That's pretty much was Mint seems to be doing and I agree that this is 
probably a much more viable approach:

http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/11/30/linux-mint-12/

Regards,
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Fedora 16 Beta on Power ready for testing!

2011-12-09 Thread Phil Knirsch
Long time in the making, but at long last after 6 weeks of hard work the 
Fedora Secondary Arch Team for Power finally managed to get the Fedora 
16 Beta release done!

Available from mirrors now here:

https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/16/ppc64/

under releases/test/16-Beta/

or directly from here:

http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/test/16-Beta/

A lot of the issues we still had for Alpha have been fixed since then. 
The most noticeable ones are:

  * Firefox-8 works now on 32bit and 64bit out of the box
  * Gnome3 Desktop no more segfaulting
  * Qt4 not segfaulting all of KDE anymore
  * Various anaconda issues (serial console, garbled fonts to name a few)
  * Filesystem encryption password check working now
  * Numerous rebuild failures

More details about this Beta release can be found here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Beta_PPC_release_notes

and we do have an official release announcement as well here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_Beta_PPC_release_announcement

I want to thank everyone involved in making this happen, it's been a
pretty long stretch with quite a few hurdles, but we finally got the
first big milestone done towards the goal to get a Fedora 16 on Power out.

We're working full steam now to get GA done by 21. of December.

As usual, the whole team can typically be found on the #fedora-ppc IRC
channel on FreeNode and via our email list:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/ppc

And we have our Secondary Arch wiki with (decently) updated information:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC

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[Bug 765792] New: perl-PPIx-Regexp-0.023 is available

2011-12-09 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: perl-PPIx-Regexp-0.023 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=765792

   Summary: perl-PPIx-Regexp-0.023 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: Unspecified
OS/Version: Unspecified
Status: NEW
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Severity: unspecified
  Priority: unspecified
 Component: perl-PPIx-Regexp
AssignedTo: ppi...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com,
mmasl...@redhat.com, ppi...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora
  Story Points: ---
  Type: ---
Regression: ---
Mount Type: ---
 Documentation: ---


Latest upstream release: 0.023
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 0.022
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/PPIx-Regexp/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
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Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/09/2011 05:42 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
 On 12/09/2011 11:58 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 one
   developer?  I am worried about sustainability.
 How can you be worried about maintainability given that we
 already have
   unmaintained and poorly maintained packages in the distribution?
 When you have problems, the solution is to fix it.  Not add more.
 
 Agreed but given that we already ship unmaintained either upstream or
 within the distribution components then I fail to understand why adding
 couple of more to the already existing pile is going to make any
 difference it's not like the current situation would be going from bad
 to worse since we already are at worse from my pov...

It is not useful to generalize. There are lots of software components
which aren't actively maintained but are useful to have in the
distribution and all distributions have them however a desktop
environment is a lot of work to maintain (as seen for instance in
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1901) and if upstream is not active, then
any potential needs to be aware of this before volunteering this
feature.  If someone really wants to still do it, there is nothing in
Fedora stopping it from happening.  I was merely raising a potential
issue to think about in advance.

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License change in LibRaw due to inclusion of demosaic packs

2011-12-09 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
Hi,

I got a request to include demosaic packs into the LibRaw build to
support some digital cameras:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=760638

With this inclusion, the LibRaw package will have a GPLv3+ license
since the demosaic packs are released under GPLv2+ and
GPLv3+. Currently only shotwell seems to be using LibRaw and it should
be ok with this change since it is GPLv2+.

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Review swap: indimpc - A minimalist MPD client with support for the gnome-shell and multimedia keys

2011-12-09 Thread Ankur Sinha
hello,

Would any one want to swap reviews please? This is a rather simple
package to review :)

Review Request: indimpc - A minimalist MPD client with support for the
gnome-shell and multimedia keys

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=765802

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Fedora 17 Test Days

2011-12-09 Thread John Dulaney

Greetings, y’all!
This release cycle I am the Test Day Coordinator.  That means it is 
my job to help you, my fellow Fedorians, to set up test days for your 
packages/projects.  We have about two and a half months until Alpha 
release (1).  The sooner I receive test day proposals, the easier my 
life will be, and we all know that making my life easier is a Good 
Thing.  The test day schedule can be found at 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_17_test_days.
Proposing a test day is very easy.  There is a guide at 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/Create for proposing test days, as 
well as https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management for helping 
with creating the associated Wiki page and actually running the test day.

If you need any help, feel free to email me at jdula...@fedoraproject.org.

Thanks much

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File JSON-RPC-1.01.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2011-12-09 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-JSON-RPC:

802d5bb488f3587f16aa69e8c002132b  JSON-RPC-1.01.tar.gz
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[perl-Coro] 6.07 bump

2011-12-09 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 071b0341c8b89029f779a7ce634fc2c8d440db34
Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com
Date:   Fri Dec 9 15:46:17 2011 +0100

6.07 bump

 .gitignore |1 +
 .rpmlint   |3 +++
 perl-Coro.spec |7 +--
 sources|2 +-
 4 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 35c60e0..d2052a2 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -6,3 +6,4 @@
 /Coro-6.04.tar.gz
 /Coro-6.05.tar.gz
 /Coro-6.06.tar.gz
+/Coro-6.07.tar.gz
diff --git a/.rpmlint b/.rpmlint
new file mode 100644
index 000..3cc115d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/.rpmlint
@@ -0,0 +1,3 @@
+from Config import *
+addFilter(spelling-error .* coros);
+addFilter(devel-file-in-non-devel-package /usr/lib64/perl5/Coro/CoroAPI.h);
diff --git a/perl-Coro.spec b/perl-Coro.spec
index a186149..3fa26d5 100644
--- a/perl-Coro.spec
+++ b/perl-Coro.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Coro
-Version:6.06
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Version:6.07
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:The only real threads in perl
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -120,6 +120,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Dec 09 2011 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 6.07-1
+- 6.07 bump
+
 * Thu Nov 03 2011 Nicolas Chauvet kwiz...@gmail.com - 6.06-2
 - Fix ucontext on ARM - rhbz750805
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index ce10dab..f59f24f 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-2ee54f58bced7471f77149e97c73a94f  Coro-6.06.tar.gz
+354dd4f058a30f085716010b771e27e9  Coro-6.07.tar.gz
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Re: License change in LibRaw due to inclusion of demosaic packs

2011-12-09 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
2011/12/9 Siddhesh Poyarekar spoya...@redhat.com:
 Hi,

 I got a request to include demosaic packs into the LibRaw build to
 support some digital cameras:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=760638

 With this inclusion, the LibRaw package will have a GPLv3+ license
 since the demosaic packs are released under GPLv2+ and
 GPLv3+. Currently only shotwell seems to be using LibRaw and it should
 be ok with this change since it is GPLv2+.

I still plan to enable libRaw in oyranos thanks to now providing a
shared library.
This last is BSD + GPLv+2, so this seems OK.
(RPM package only states GPLv2+ currently).


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Re: Boost build failure

2011-12-09 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 12/05/2011 05:29 PM, Petr Machata wrote:
 Orion Poplawskior...@cora.nwra.com  writes:

 I'm seeing the following boost related build error building paraview
 in rawhide.  Do any boost gurus know what the issue might be the
 issue?

 Hi there, please do not hesitate to file bugs for such regressions.  I
 only noticed this message today.

It wasn't obvious to me that it was a regression.  New versions of libraries 
things often change.

 The problem here is in a tree_edge(e,g) event point of boost's
 breadth_first_search.  In reverse graph, this used to be called so that
 e was directly the edge type of the edge in graph (vtkEdgeType in this
 case).  Now it's called with a value of wrapper type
 boost::detail::reverse_graph_edge_descriptorvtkEdgeType.  This wrapper
 type has a public member underlying_desc which is the original edge.

 Of course, with forward graph, this wrapping doesn't take place, so we
 can't just plainly access e.underlying_desc.Id, we must wrap the access
 itself.  The hack that I'm attaching should take care of it.  The build
 is progressing now, I'm not sure if I'll hit something more.

 I'll open an upstream bug for this.

Do you have a link for this?

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Re: Heads up: bumping libnl to v3 in rawhide/F17 soon

2011-12-09 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:

 The compatibility report between 1.1 and 3.2.2 versions of libnl 
 generated by abi-compliance-checker [1] tool (see attachment: 
 abi_compat_report.html) may be of help.
 
 [1] http://forge.ispras.ru/projects/abi-compliance-checker

now back online:

*API changes/compatibility test results for the libnl library*

http://upstream-tracker.org/versions/libnl.html

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 17 Test Days

2011-12-09 Thread John Dulaney


Greetings, y’all!

This release cycle I am the Test Day Coordinator.  That means it is 
my job to help you, my fellow Fedorians, to set up test days for your 
packages/projects.  We have about two and a half months until Alpha 
release (1).  The sooner I receive test day proposals, the easier my 
life will be, and we all know that making my life easier is a Good 
Thing.  The test day schedule can be found at 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_17_test_days.

Proposing a test day is very easy.  There is a guide at 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/Create for proposing test days, as 
well as https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management for helping 
with creating the associated Wiki page and actually running the test day.



If you need any help, feel free to email me at jdula...@fedoraproject.org.



Thanks much

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Re: Boost build failure

2011-12-09 Thread Petr Machata
Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com writes:

 On 12/05/2011 05:29 PM, Petr Machata wrote:
 Orion Poplawskior...@cora.nwra.com  writes:

 I'm seeing the following boost related build error building paraview
 in rawhide.  Do any boost gurus know what the issue might be the
 issue?

 Hi there, please do not hesitate to file bugs for such regressions.  I
 only noticed this message today.

 It wasn't obvious to me that it was a regression.  New versions of
 libraries things often change.

Well, yeah, it is a change.  The regression here is that your package
stopped building.  This could well be caused by a bug in boost, or
perhaps the API just changed.  It's hard to tell with boost.  If you
open a bug agains boost for such things, I'll look at it and typically
will come up with a patch that either fixes the package, or boost.

 I'll open an upstream bug for this.

 Do you have a link for this?

https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/6221

But don't hold your breath, it was wontfix'd, as expected.

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DWARF 4

2011-12-09 Thread Jerry James
Are there known obstacles in the way of replacing -g with -gdwarf-4
-fvar-tracking-assignments in our %{optflags}?  I'm eager to be rid
of gdb telling me that the one value I really have to know to diagnose
a crash has been optimized away.  Are there bits of the toolchain that
can't handle DWARF 4?  Will debuginfo grow significantly in size?

Just curious, because I've taken to use -gdwarf-4
-fvar-tracking-assignments in the projects I work on for my employer.
I haven't had a problem yet, and just wondered if there's a brick wall
up ahead somewhere...

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Re: DWARF 4

2011-12-09 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 01:16:42PM -0700, Jerry James wrote:
 Are there known obstacles in the way of replacing -g with -gdwarf-4
 -fvar-tracking-assignments in our %{optflags}?  I'm eager to be rid
 of gdb telling me that the one value I really have to know to diagnose
 a crash has been optimized away.  Are there bits of the toolchain that
 can't handle DWARF 4?  Will debuginfo grow significantly in size?

For -OX -g (for X != 0) -fvar-tracking-assignments is the default
and in F16+ GCC also -gdwarf-4 is the default (with -fno-debug-types-section
, as .debug_types is still not supported by many tools and has lots of
unsolved problems even on its own, but otherwise you get all the DWARF4
goodies and in F16 also a bunch of new extensions).
F16 gdb doesn't support DW_OP_entry_value and typed DWARF stack extensions
I think, you need to wait for F17 for that.

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Re: DWARF 4

2011-12-09 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:20 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
 F16 gdb doesn't support DW_OP_entry_value and typed DWARF stack extensions
 I think, you need to wait for F17 for that.

These features are not yet in Rawhide, they are in FSF GDB HEAD, it should be
in Rawhide in a week or so.

I do not plan to rebase F16 as it is a stable release, unless there is
a consensus on fedora-devel reduction of optimized out results is worth the
rebase compatibilities/regressions risk.


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Re: gdbm license change

2011-12-09 Thread Tom Callaway
On 11/15/2011 03:19 AM, Honza Horak wrote:

 If there are some license issues not easy to solve, there is still a 
 compat-gdbm package, which ships gdbm-1.8.3 with GPLv2+.

The problem is that compat-gdbm has no -devel package, and we cannot use
the gdbm-devel package for this.

Since Thorsten Kukuk is unwilling to relicense ypserv to resolve the
licensing conflict, we are left with the following options:

* Modify compat-gdbm to have a true -devel package (this will almost
certainly require namespacing it somehow, like libgdbm_old.so)

OR

* Have the gdbm upstream relicense to something that is explicitly GPLv2
compatible (or move back to GPLv2+).

OR

* Drop ypserv from Fedora entirely.

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Re: gdbm license change

2011-12-09 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Haïkel Guémar karlthe...@gmail.com wrote:

 PS: why the hell are we still shipping this crap ? Ruby 1.9.x has been
 the stable branch for almost three years, now. Upstream has decided to
 stop providing bugfixes for Ruby 1.8.7 by june 2012 and CVE fixes by
 june 2013.

From what I know there is a lot of software out there that isn't
compatible with Ruby 1.9 yet.  Puppet is one major example.

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Re: What must I do for libquvi in F16

2011-12-09 Thread Nicoleau Fabien
Le 04/12/2011 07:14, Kevin Kofler a écrit :
 Nicoleau Fabien wrote:
 - open a bz ticket to create git access for libquvi-scripts and libquvi
 in F16 (quvi already exists)
 Actually, the new branch request should be filed in the existing review
 ticket, see:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_SCM_admin_requests#Package_Change_Requests_for_existing_packages

 - commit and push all the changes for libquvi-scripts, libquvi, quvi and
 the packages depending on quvi
 Right.

 - ask rel-eng to make a chain-build for all the pacakges
 No. A chain-build for a released Fedora is only possible in a dedicated tag,
 and in this case I don't think it's worth the overhead of a dedicated tag,
 so rel-eng would probably reject that request. Instead:
 * build libquvi
 * request a buildroot override through:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/override/list
 * wait ~30-60 minutes for the override to take effect (Koji needs time to
 compose a new buildroot repository with the new override). You can use:
 koji wait-repo --build=libquvi-$version-$release f16-build
 to check, it will return when the new package is available in the buildroot
 (or immediately if it already was in the buildroot when you ran the
 command).
 * if any other quvi package is needed to build dependent packages, do the
 same for those
 * build the dependent packages
 * delete the buildroot override through:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/override/list
 when you don't need it anymore

 - create  an update in bodhi with all the new packages
 Yes.

  Kevin Kofler

Thank you very much. The update is now in testing.

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Re: ruby 1.9

2011-12-09 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 12/09/2011 02:11 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Haïkel Guémarkarlthe...@gmail.com  wrote:

 PS: why the hell are we still shipping this crap ? Ruby 1.9.x has been
 the stable branch for almost three years, now. Upstream has decided to
 stop providing bugfixes for Ruby 1.8.7 by june 2012 and CVE fixes by
 june 2013.

 From what I know there is a lot of software out there that isn't
 compatible with Ruby 1.9 yet.  Puppet is one major example.


But isn't that why Fedora exists, to push everyone along :)

Sounds like it needs to be in at least F18 for that timetable.

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Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 It is not useful to generalize. There are lots of software components
 which aren't actively maintained but are useful to have in the
 distribution and all distributions have them however a desktop
 environment is a lot of work to maintain (as seen for instance in
 http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1901) and if upstream is not active, then
 any potential needs to be aware of this before volunteering this
 feature.  If someone really wants to still do it, there is nothing in
 Fedora stopping it from happening.  I was merely raising a potential
 issue to think about in advance.

Software with dead or almost dead upstream is a two-edged sword:
* If the software is working well, that's the software which is easiest to
  maintain, since there are generally few to no new upstream releases to
  take care of. :-) (But if it's something like Trinity, which manages to
  churn out release after release with a single maintainer, including
  binary-incompatible library changes, that's also not the case. But I'd
  place that in the below paragraph anyway. ;-) There are literally
  THOUSANDS of KDE 3 bugs closed as fixed in KDE SC 4.)
* If the software has many bugs, it's the software which is hardest to
  maintain, because then YOU as the Fedora maintainer are on the hook for
  fixing those bugs.
Unfortunately, a desktop environment tends to be in the latter situation.

So I'm sceptical about MATE (seeing what's going on with Trinity) and I can 
only strongly discourage attempting to package Trinity.

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Re: orphaning gdk-pixbuf

2011-12-09 Thread Eric Smith
Matthias Clasen wrote:
  Yes, gdk-pixbuf2 is not going away.
  gdk-pixbuf is the gtk1-era incarnation and not really used by anything
  anymore.

Whew, that's a relief!

Thanks!
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How to prevent a binary from being stripped by rpmbuild?

2011-12-09 Thread David Howells

Hi,

How do I prevent rpmbuild from attempting to strip a particular binary?  The
problem is that the binary was cross-compiled and is not of the same
architecture as the normal Fedora binutils.  Thus the strip program used (from
the wrong binutils) appears to corrupt the binary.

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Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Heiko Adams
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 So I'm sceptical about MATE (seeing what's going on with Trinity)
 and I can only strongly discourage attempting to package Trinity.

I agree to that point of view. IMHO MATE is a waste of time and
manpower like Trinity as well. There no real need for those desktops
because Gnome 3 refugees could also use Lxde or Xfce which already
feel like Gnome 2 wich some customization work.

BTW: As far as I know there still some Unix distributions which ship
KDE 3.5 but they ship AFAIK the original KDE bits and not trinity.

Regards,

Heiko
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Re: How to prevent a binary from being stripped by rpmbuild?

2011-12-09 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 7:32 PM, David Howells dhowe...@redhat.com wrote:

 Hi,

 How do I prevent rpmbuild from attempting to strip a particular binary?  The
 problem is that the binary was cross-compiled and is not of the same
 architecture as the normal Fedora binutils.  Thus the strip program used (from
 the wrong binutils) appears to corrupt the binary.

You probably need to disable debuginfo packages if that is the case.
You might also want to redefine %{__strip} to the appropriate
cross-strip utility, or /bin/true.  Something like:

%define debug_package %{nil}
%define __strip /bin/true

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Re: libpng mass rebuild status, 2011-12-06

2011-12-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Jackson wrote:
 8 qt3-3.3.8b-37.fc17.src.rpm

Fixed. This was poking a round a lot in the png_info structure. Thankfully, 
the NetBSD folks had already prepared a patch, which I applied in 
qt3-3.3.8b-40.fc17, which built successfully in Rawhide.

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Re: ruby 1.9

2011-12-09 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Orion Poplawski wrote:

 But isn't that why Fedora exists, to push everyone along :)
 
 Sounds like it needs to be in at least F18 for that timetable.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Ruby_1.9.3

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ruby-sig/2011-September/000658.html
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ruby-sig/2011-September/000665.html
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ruby-sig/2011-October/000689.html
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[Test-Announce] 2011-12-12 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting provisionally CANCELLED

2011-12-09 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks. As no agenda items other than the standard catch-ups have
been proposed via the list or on the Wiki page, and we have no action
items from last week's meeting to catch up with, the 2011-12-12 meeting
is provisionally cancelled, per the meeting SOP: there's no point having
a meeting just for the sake of having a meeting.

If anyone knows of any important issues we should discuss at a meeting,
please reply to this message and/or add the topic to the proposed agenda
at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20111212 . If any proposed
agenda items are received, the meeting will be back on, and I'll send
out an updated announcement. Otherwise, everyone can do something more
important!

Remember, there are many tasks still pending from the Fedora 16 QA
Retrospective:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_QA_Retrospective#Recommendations

so if you're looking for something to do, look there! :)
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File Color-Calc-1.072.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2011-12-09 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Color-Calc:

a056998edcb1b55e71fa7f023dd682c5  Color-Calc-1.072.tar.gz
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[perl-Color-Calc] Update to 1.072 clean up specfile

2011-12-09 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit 2197d0367dd4573f18b9a641c285b65fc2e879b3
Author: Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr
Date:   Fri Dec 9 11:41:24 2011 +0100

Update to 1.072  clean up specfile

 .gitignore   |1 +
 perl-Color-Calc.spec |   15 ++-
 sources  |2 +-
 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 6fa94e9..515701d 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
 Color-Calc-1.061.tar.gz
 /Color-Calc-1.070.tar.gz
 /Color-Calc-1.071.tar.gz
+/Color-Calc-1.072.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Color-Calc.spec b/perl-Color-Calc.spec
index e358b1e..ed8546e 100644
--- a/perl-Color-Calc.spec
+++ b/perl-Color-Calc.spec
@@ -1,12 +1,11 @@
 Name:   perl-Color-Calc
-Version:1.071
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Version:1.072
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Simple calculations with RGB colors
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Color-Calc/
 Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/C/CF/CFAERBER/Color-Calc-%{version}.tar.gz
-BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 BuildArch:  noarch
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Graphics::ColorNames)
@@ -34,8 +33,6 @@ mv README.utf-8 README
 make %{?_smp_mflags}
 
 %install
-rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
-
 make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} \;
@@ -46,16 +43,16 @@ find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 
2/dev/null \;
 %check
 make test
 
-%clean
-rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
-
 %files
-%defattr(-,root,root,-)
 %doc Changes README
 %{perl_vendorlib}/*
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Dec  9 2011 Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr - 1.072-1
+- Update to 1.072
+- Spec clean up
+
 * Wed Jul 20 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 1.071-2
 - Perl mass rebuild
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 39eee7e..f3338ae 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-96adc525668ff10f3ebc9d339f21080e  Color-Calc-1.071.tar.gz
+a056998edcb1b55e71fa7f023dd682c5  Color-Calc-1.072.tar.gz
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File PPIx-Regexp-0.023.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2011-12-09 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-PPIx-Regexp:

6d5c92445c63087ea9563d5cc999c59e  PPIx-Regexp-0.023.tar.gz
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[perl-PPIx-Regexp] 0.023 bump

2011-12-09 Thread Petr Pisar
commit ed66f2f34bb043f67b9c3bf10c208da2cfb6f257
Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com
Date:   Fri Dec 9 14:18:00 2011 +0100

0.023 bump

 .gitignore|1 +
 perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec |5 -
 sources   |2 +-
 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index c360244..fcd416f 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -11,3 +11,4 @@ PPIx-Regexp-0.007.tar.gz
 /PPIx-Regexp-0.020.tar.gz
 /PPIx-Regexp-0.021.tar.gz
 /PPIx-Regexp-0.022.tar.gz
+/PPIx-Regexp-0.023.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec b/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec
index 1ae6479..d5eaf2e 100644
--- a/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec
+++ b/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:   perl-PPIx-Regexp
-Version:0.022
+Version:0.023
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Represent a regular expression of some sort
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -47,6 +47,9 @@ find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 
2/dev/null \;
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Dec 09 2011 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 0.023-1
+- 0.023 bump
+
 * Fri Nov 25 2011 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 0.022-1
 - 0.022 bump
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 1e14643..b5bbf3e 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-c2dd472b9b705f29327f8f03e3547c03  PPIx-Regexp-0.022.tar.gz
+6d5c92445c63087ea9563d5cc999c59e  PPIx-Regexp-0.023.tar.gz
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[Bug 765792] perl-PPIx-Regexp-0.023 is available

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   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED
   Fixed In Version||perl-PPIx-Regexp-0.023-1.fc
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[Bug 753416] perl-Coro-6.07 is available

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   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |MODIFIED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Coro-6.07-1.fc17

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[Bug 765934] New: build for EPEL 6

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   Summary: build for EPEL 6
   Product: Fedora EPEL
   Version: el6
  Platform: Unspecified
OS/Version: Unspecified
Status: NEW
  Severity: unspecified
  Priority: unspecified
 Component: cpanspec
AssignedTo: st...@silug.org
ReportedBy: ktdre...@ktdreyer.com
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: st...@silug.org, fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora
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  Type: ---
Regression: ---
Mount Type: ---
 Documentation: ---


Please build and push cpanspec for EPEL 6.

(I've applied for co-maintainership in pkgdb.)

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[Bug 765934] build for EPEL 6

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 Depends on||738421

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[Bug 765950] build for EPEL 6

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Version|el5 |el6
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[Bug 765934] build for EPEL 6

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[Bug 765950] New: build for EPEL 6

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   Summary: build for EPEL 6
   Product: Fedora EPEL
   Version: el5
  Platform: Unspecified
OS/Version: Unspecified
Status: NEW
  Severity: unspecified
  Priority: unspecified
 Component: perl-Parse-CPAN-Packages
AssignedTo: st...@silug.org
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Please build and push for EPEL 6.

(I've applied for co-maintainership in pkgdb).

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