date:20221025

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-25 Thread Jaroslav Mracek

> Hi
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 7:14 AM Jaroslav Mracek wrote:
> 
> 
> This response really doesn't clarify what the end result is supposed to be.
>   Are you planning to maintain a symlink from DNF and Yum to DNF5 after the
> transition is complete or not?
> 
> Rahul

Yes, we have a plan to maintain symlinks to `/user/bin/` + ` dnf` or `microdnf` 
or `yum`.

Jaroslav
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Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-10-25 Thread Panu Matilainen

On 10/24/22 23:23, Petr Menšík wrote:

Hi, maybe it was already answered.

Not long ago Thunderbird switched from using installed GPG to its own
implementation inside. I think I have found the library part and it
seems to be in C++, which should be much more easier to integrate than
rust libraries.

I think the project link is:

https://github.com/rnpgp/rnp

Wouldn't it solve the problems cause in more compatible way? Is has
relatively recent release, so it does not seem abandoned. Is there a
specific reason, why is a Rust implementation chosen instead?

Yes it was already answered, see

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/WSKLHCVFABW442MWDHEIBBE4ZJMLACB2/

and

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/YOAI3MQYD3DX7KTM3M6ENFJ5ULHYO3I3/

We would've, *of course*, gone for something C-nativeish if that had
been an option at all. As I said in some other post in this thread, I've
been on the lookout for a viable C-native option for 15+ years. Yet here
we are.

And as I've also said elsewhere in this thread, the plan is to keep the
options open for the future. I don't like the shotgun marriage to Rust
any more than the next person out there.

I like Rust language, but its integration into a core system
component does not seem easy.

Except for the matter of bootstrap dependencies (which has also been
discussed here already), I don't know what the difficulty in this case
is supposed to be.

- Panu
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