Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-11-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 4.11.2014 v 12:37 Martin Stransky napsal(a):
 The Gtk3 Firefox is enabled for master (Fedora 22) now. If you'd like
 to have gtk3 build for other distros, just change the toolkit_gtk3
 variable and rebuild (locally, in copr).

 I'd be glad for any feedback/bugreport and please mind - it's still
 rawhide :)

 ma.


Hi Martin,

I have updated Firefox yesterday and used it for few hours. It works
more or less fine. Here are just a few remarks I noticed:


* Scrollbar does not support GTK3 behavior, i.e. when it is grabbed for
a moment, it does not enable fine scrolling.
* There is rather small difference between checked/unchecked check boxes
or radio buttons. There is missing the check or bullet, so it  not
obvious what is selected.
* Tabs at advanced preferences page does not look much as a tabs. The
current tab is gray and the rest is plain white, without any visual
dividers.
* Strange shadows in save file to edit box at general preferences page.
* The dividers in menus are bolder then they should be and they are
visually distracting.

Thanks



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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-11-04 Thread Martin Stransky
The Gtk3 Firefox is enabled for master (Fedora 22) now. If you'd like to 
have gtk3 build for other distros, just change the toolkit_gtk3 variable 
and rebuild (locally, in copr).


I'd be glad for any feedback/bugreport and please mind - it's still 
rawhide :)


ma.

On 01/13/2014 04:15 PM, Martin Stransky wrote:

Hi guys,

first $SUBJ is available at:

http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/

It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse
youtube ;-)) but may work as a preview.

I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.

ma.


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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-11-04 Thread Martin Stransky
IMO It would be great if anyone can step in, rebuild the gtk3 package 
for other Fedora's and maintain the copr repo. I can help with any 
issues with that so feel free to ask.


ma.

On 11/04/2014 12:37 PM, Martin Stransky wrote:

The Gtk3 Firefox is enabled for master (Fedora 22) now. If you'd like to
have gtk3 build for other distros, just change the toolkit_gtk3 variable
and rebuild (locally, in copr).

I'd be glad for any feedback/bugreport and please mind - it's still
rawhide :)

ma.

On 01/13/2014 04:15 PM, Martin Stransky wrote:

Hi guys,

first $SUBJ is available at:

http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/

It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse
youtube ;-)) but may work as a preview.

I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.

ma.




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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-09-07 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 12:27 +0200, Martin Stransky wrote:
 So the Firefox-gtk3 may be slowly moved 
 to the Fedora one.

Martin,

Can I request you to please provide f21 packages in the copr too? 
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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-09-04 Thread Martin Stransky

On 09/03/2014 09:58 AM, Kẏra wrote:

Testing has been great! I still really appreciate this repo. There have been
a few firefox releases plus Fedora 21 is no longer rawhide so that could use
its own repo. Any plans to update soon?

I've been able to find these two bugs (though I haven't been able to test on
anything more recent than what's in the repo)
* e10s windows display elements in 1/4 the screen:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1025715
* can't use the mouse to navigate (specific to gtk 3.12.2):
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1025710

I was also able to answer my earlier question about bug tracking

I have found that this is the meta-bug for gtk3:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699

and this is for electrolysis (from there you can find the core e10s bugs,
and milestone 1 and milestone 2 meta-bugs as well:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=516752


Hi,

I have had some other responsibilities recently and gtk3 haven't got any 
new fixes, so there's no point to update it (except the latest trunk fixes).


I'm focused to Fedora packages now - I'd like to provide gtk3 Firefox 
for Fedora 22 (Firefox 33/34). So the Firefox-gtk3 may be slowly moved 
to the Fedora one.


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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-09-03 Thread Kẏra
Martin Stransky stransky at redhat.com writes:

 
 On 06/09/2014 09:04 PM, Kẏra wrote:
 
  cool! can you link to bugs / review pages for those patches so that we can
  track their progress? updating the build to FF31 also sounds great [=
 
  FF31 is out of nightly and FF32 has already been there for well over a month
  now and FF33 will hit nightly tomorrow! Will the gtk3 build be updated again
  soon?
 
 Yes, I'm going to update it this week, after Firefox 30 release. The 
 firefox-gtk3 is always latest trunk, the version is just for orientation 
 (It's FF32 now).
 
 ma.

Testing has been great! I still really appreciate this repo. There have been
a few firefox releases plus Fedora 21 is no longer rawhide so that could use
its own repo. Any plans to update soon? 

I've been able to find these two bugs (though I haven't been able to test on
anything more recent than what's in the repo)
* e10s windows display elements in 1/4 the screen:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1025715
* can't use the mouse to navigate (specific to gtk 3.12.2):
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1025710

I was also able to answer my earlier question about bug tracking

I have found that this is the meta-bug for gtk3:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699

and this is for electrolysis (from there you can find the core e10s bugs,
and milestone 1 and milestone 2 meta-bugs as well:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=516752



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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-06-10 Thread Martin Stransky

On 06/09/2014 09:04 PM, Kẏra wrote:

On that note, I haven't seen a new build in a while! When can we hope for
an update?


There are some patches waiting upstream for review so when those are
done. I'd like also update the firefox-gtk3 build to Firefox 31.



cool! can you link to bugs / review pages for those patches so that we can
track their progress? updating the build to FF31 also sounds great [=


FF31 is out of nightly and FF32 has already been there for well over a month
now and FF33 will hit nightly tomorrow! Will the gtk3 build be updated again
soon?


Yes, I'm going to update it this week, after Firefox 30 release. The 
firefox-gtk3 is always latest trunk, the version is just for orientation 
(It's FF32 now).


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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-06-09 Thread Kẏra
Kẏra kxra at riseup.net writes:
 Martin Stransky stransky at redhat.com writes:
  On 03/28/2014 11:44 AM, Kẏra wrote:
   First off, thank you so much for this! I have been using it and it is
   stunning. The difference is huge.
  
  Thanks!
  
   One thing that I have been waiting for is separate processes for each tab 
   to start working. Right now, when I enable it, it causes the entire window
   to turn grey.
  
  How do you enable it? Can you file a BZ# for that at bugzilla.redhat.com?
 
 In about:config, set the browser.tabs.remote preference to 'true'
 
 More info here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis
 
 did you mean the mozilla bug tracker? what product would i file it under at
 redhat's? 

I ended up filing the bug in Mozilla's tracker and it was finally resolved: 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1013552

I'm excited to soon be able to test multi-process firefox with gtk3! 

   On that note, I haven't seen a new build in a while! When can we hope for 
   an update?
  
  There are some patches waiting upstream for review so when those are 
  done. I'd like also update the firefox-gtk3 build to Firefox 31.
  
 
 cool! can you link to bugs / review pages for those patches so that we can
 track their progress? updating the build to FF31 also sounds great [=

FF31 is out of nightly and FF32 has already been there for well over a month 
now and FF33 will hit nightly tomorrow! Will the gtk3 build be updated again 
soon? 

Thanks! 

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-04-29 Thread Kẏra
Kẏra kxra at riseup.net writes:
 Martin Stransky stransky at redhat.com writes:
 
  How do you enable it? Can you file a BZ# for that at bugzilla.redhat.com?
 
 In about:config, set the browser.tabs.remote preference to 'true'
 
 More info here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis
 
 did you mean the mozilla bug tracker? what product would i file it under at
 redhat's? 
 
  There are some patches waiting upstream for review so when those are 
  done. I'd like also update the firefox-gtk3 build to Firefox 31.
 
 cool! can you link to bugs / review pages for those patches so that we can
 track their progress? updating the build to FF31 also sounds great [=

So excited to have FF31 now! Thanks again for packaging this. Sadly, I'm
still having the same issue with electrolysis (separate processes per tab).
Can anyone else test this? 

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-03-28 Thread Kẏra
Martin Stransky stransky at redhat.com writes:

 
 On 01/13/2014 04:16 PM, Christopher Meng wrote:
  On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Martin Stransky stransky at
redhat.com wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  first $SUBJ is available at:
 
  http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/
 
  It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse
youtube
  ) but may work as a preview.
 
  I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.
 
  You can build it on copr!
 
 Good idea!
 
 http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/stransky/FirefoxGtk3/
 
 ma.
 


First off, thank you so much for this! I have been using it and it is
stunning. The difference is huge. 

It also seems to be the only browser that has supported my HiDPI display
(perhaps that's thanks to gtk3?). 

One thing that I have been waiting for is separate processes for each tab to
start working. Right now, when I enable it, it causes the entire window to
turn grey. 

On that note, I haven't seen a new build in a while! When can we hope for an
update? 

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-03-28 Thread Martin Stransky

On 03/28/2014 11:44 AM, Kẏra wrote:

First off, thank you so much for this! I have been using it and it is
stunning. The difference is huge.


Thanks!


It also seems to be the only browser that has supported my HiDPI display
(perhaps that's thanks to gtk3?).


That's a great news, I was not aware of it.


One thing that I have been waiting for is separate processes for each tab to
start working. Right now, when I enable it, it causes the entire window to
turn grey.


How do you enable it? Can you file a BZ# for that at bugzilla.redhat.com?


On that note, I haven't seen a new build in a while! When can we hope for an
update?


There are some patches waiting upstream for review so when those are 
done. I'd like also update the firefox-gtk3 build to Firefox 31.


ma.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-03-28 Thread Kẏra
Martin Stransky stransky at redhat.com writes:

 
 On 03/28/2014 11:44 AM, Kẏra wrote:
  First off, thank you so much for this! I have been using it and it is
  stunning. The difference is huge.
 
 Thanks!
 
  It also seems to be the only browser that has supported my HiDPI display
  (perhaps that's thanks to gtk3?).
 
 That's a great news, I was not aware of it.
 
  One thing that I have been waiting for is separate processes for each tab to
  start working. Right now, when I enable it, it causes the entire window to
  turn grey.
 
 How do you enable it? Can you file a BZ# for that at bugzilla.redhat.com?

In about:config, set the browser.tabs.remote preference to 'true'

More info here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis

did you mean the mozilla bug tracker? what product would i file it under at
redhat's? 

 
  On that note, I haven't seen a new build in a while! When can we hope for an
  update?
 
 There are some patches waiting upstream for review so when those are 
 done. I'd like also update the firefox-gtk3 build to Firefox 31.
 

cool! can you link to bugs / review pages for those patches so that we can
track their progress? updating the build to FF31 also sounds great [=

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-28 Thread Maros Zatko

On 01/16/2014 12:54 PM, Martin Stransky wrote:

On 01/14/2014 07:12 PM, Maros Zatko wrote:

On 01/14/2014 03:38 PM, H. Guémar wrote:

What's the point ?

Personally, it's mainly about not throwing gnome 3 HIG at people.

There's absolutely no benefit in keeping Gtk+2 longer.
Gtk+ 2.24.0 has been released 3 years ago (january, 2011) and is only
receiving bugfix due to existing apps who didn't move to Gtk+3.

Oh yes, Wayland.

By migrating more apps, we can drop Gtk+ 2.24 (at least from images),
firefox is one of the major application that prevents us to do so.

H.




Is it possible to keep current gtk 2 face as a different 
plugin/frontend?


No, but we can keep config flags for that in firefox.spec so you can 
build your own package at copr. But it's realy a long term issue, a 
first Firefox with Gtk3 support is Firefox 29.


ma.
My question was if GTK2 face is going to be still available at least at 
the source level. (I know it's possible, since FF has different faces 
for win, osx and gtk.) Or you're going to migrate gtk2 face to gtk3 
(and completely obfuscate any attempt to use the older one; the same 
thing as we've seen with gnome 2.x related applications)?


thx,
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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-28 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/28/2014 10:59 AM, Maros Zatko wrote:

On 01/16/2014 12:54 PM, Martin Stransky wrote:

On 01/14/2014 07:12 PM, Maros Zatko wrote:

On 01/14/2014 03:38 PM, H. Guémar wrote:

What's the point ?

Personally, it's mainly about not throwing gnome 3 HIG at people.

There's absolutely no benefit in keeping Gtk+2 longer.
Gtk+ 2.24.0 has been released 3 years ago (january, 2011) and is only
receiving bugfix due to existing apps who didn't move to Gtk+3.

Oh yes, Wayland.

By migrating more apps, we can drop Gtk+ 2.24 (at least from images),
firefox is one of the major application that prevents us to do so.

H.




Is it possible to keep current gtk 2 face as a different
plugin/frontend?


No, but we can keep config flags for that in firefox.spec so you can
build your own package at copr. But it's realy a long term issue, a
first Firefox with Gtk3 support is Firefox 29.

ma.

My question was if GTK2 face is going to be still available at least at
the source level. (I know it's possible, since FF has different faces
for win, osx and gtk.) Or you're going to migrate gtk2 face to gtk3
(and completely obfuscate any attempt to use the older one; the same
thing as we've seen with gnome 2.x related applications)?


I don't think mozilla is going to remove gtk2 support, the gtk2/gtk3
port shares the same files and directories.

ma.



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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:15:19 +0100
Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:

 Hi guys,
 
 first $SUBJ is available at:
 
 http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/
 
 It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse 
 youtube ;-)) but may work as a preview.
 

Aside:
Listening to \viewing
fullscreen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8MkGqT0Z54
flash, shumway didn't popup.
firefox-gtk3-29.0-5.fc20.x86_64 



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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-17 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/16/2014 08:19 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:

On Qui, 2014-01-16 at 12:47 +0100, Martin Stransky wrote:

New builds are available at copr [1]. Package firefox-gtk3-29.0-3
contains working NPAPI plugin support, so flash and other should work there.

Please report any issue to bugzila (firefox component) and note it's the
gtk3 port.


Hi,
I use and like yum-plugin-tmprepo to install it

yum
--tmprepo=http://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/stransky/FirefoxGtk3/fedora-20-x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml
 install firefox-gtk3.x86_64 --nogpg

we need uninstall firefox ?


No, you can install it along the existing Firefox package.


but I can't startup firefox-gtk3 ends with Segmentation fault (core
dumped) ,
and abrt say: Retrace server is unable to process package
'firefox-gtk3-29.0-3.fc20.x86_64'.

Checking for duplicates
Creating a new bug
fatal: RPC failed at server.  There is no component named 'firefox-gtk3'
in the 'Fedora' product.
('report_Bugzilla' exited with 1)


I see. Please attach a backtrace to Bugzilla (firefox component), see 
instructions at [1]. The Running application in debugger and Obtain 
crash stack trace. Don't forget to install firefox-gtk3-debuginfo 
package too.


Thanks.
ma.

[1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Debugging_guidelines_for_Mozilla_products#Running_application_in_debugger



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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.01.2014 01:32, schrieb Michael Catanzaro:
 On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 20:18 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
 personally if a GTK user does not want GTK3 i want a pure
 QT firefox to get rid of GTK-dialogs

 i know that will not happen, but on the KDE desktop *any* GTK2 or GTK3
 application is much more disturbing as the difference GTK2/GTK3
 
 When I'm on KDE I use Rekonq, which is very nice. If you haven't tried
 it in the past year or so and don't use many Firefox extensions, give it
 a shot

forget it - webdeveloper/sysadmin, there are *a lot* of extensions like
HTML validator, webdeveloper tools, calomel ssl, noscript, live-hhtp-headers

currently i count 22 extensions and they are re-considered multiple
times with the conclusion that i don't want to get rid of one



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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-16 Thread Martin Stransky
New builds are available at copr [1]. Package firefox-gtk3-29.0-3 
contains working NPAPI plugin support, so flash and other should work there.


Please report any issue to bugzila (firefox component) and note it's the 
gtk3 port.


Thanks!
ma.

[1] http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/stransky/FirefoxGtk3/

On 01/13/2014 04:15 PM, Martin Stransky wrote:

Hi guys,

first $SUBJ is available at:

http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/

It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse
youtube ;-)) but may work as a preview.

I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.

ma.


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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-16 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/14/2014 06:31 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

Is it possible to split the NSAPI components out into a sub package
and hence remove the dependence on gtk2 for those people that don't
use NSAPI plugins?


You can build your own package at copr. We can add some config flags to 
firefox spec to make it easy.


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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-16 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/14/2014 07:12 PM, Maros Zatko wrote:

On 01/14/2014 03:38 PM, H. Guémar wrote:

What's the point ?

Personally, it's mainly about not throwing gnome 3 HIG at people.

There's absolutely no benefit in keeping Gtk+2 longer.
Gtk+ 2.24.0 has been released 3 years ago (january, 2011) and is only
receiving bugfix due to existing apps who didn't move to Gtk+3.

Oh yes, Wayland.

By migrating more apps, we can drop Gtk+ 2.24 (at least from images),
firefox is one of the major application that prevents us to do so.

H.




Is it possible to keep current gtk 2 face as a different plugin/frontend?


No, but we can keep config flags for that in firefox.spec so you can 
build your own package at copr. But it's realy a long term issue, a 
first Firefox with Gtk3 support is Firefox 29.


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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-16 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/14/2014 08:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 14.01.2014 19:12, schrieb Maros Zatko:

On 01/14/2014 03:38 PM, H. Guémar wrote:

What's the point ?

Personally, it's mainly about not throwing gnome 3 HIG at people


personally if a GTK user does not want GTK3 i want a pure
QT firefox to get rid of GTK-dialogs

i know that will not happen, but on the KDE desktop *any* GTK2 or GTK3
application is much more disturbing as the difference GTK2/GTK3


AFAIK the QT state in Firefox is pretty bad, unmaintained and you still 
need gtk2 for the plugins. But you're free to contribute there upstream, 
I can assist you to submit your patches.


ma.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.01.2014 12:56, schrieb Martin Stransky:
 On 01/14/2014 08:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


 Am 14.01.2014 19:12, schrieb Maros Zatko:
 On 01/14/2014 03:38 PM, H. Guémar wrote:
 What's the point ?
 Personally, it's mainly about not throwing gnome 3 HIG at people

 personally if a GTK user does not want GTK3 i want a pure
 QT firefox to get rid of GTK-dialogs

 i know that will not happen, but on the KDE desktop *any* GTK2 or GTK3
 application is much more disturbing as the difference GTK2/GTK3
 
 AFAIK the QT state in Firefox is pretty bad, unmaintained and you still need 
 gtk2 for the plugins. But you're free
 to contribute there upstream, I can assist you to submit your patches.

i know that

my intention was to make clearf why whining i want to stay at GTK2
is useless since GTK2 is dead on the long term and any package get
rid of it is a step in a future not have GTK2 *and* GTK3 installed



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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-16 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/16/2014 01:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 16.01.2014 12:56, schrieb Martin Stransky:

On 01/14/2014 08:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 14.01.2014 19:12, schrieb Maros Zatko:

On 01/14/2014 03:38 PM, H. Guémar wrote:

What's the point ?

Personally, it's mainly about not throwing gnome 3 HIG at people


personally if a GTK user does not want GTK3 i want a pure
QT firefox to get rid of GTK-dialogs

i know that will not happen, but on the KDE desktop *any* GTK2 or GTK3
application is much more disturbing as the difference GTK2/GTK3


AFAIK the QT state in Firefox is pretty bad, unmaintained and you still need 
gtk2 for the plugins. But you're free
to contribute there upstream, I can assist you to submit your patches.


i know that

my intention was to make clearf why whining i want to stay at GTK2
is useless since GTK2 is dead on the long term and any package get
rid of it is a step in a future not have GTK2 *and* GTK3 installed


We're going to allow people build their own config by some switches in 
the spec file and make it as easy as possible.


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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-16 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qui, 2014-01-16 at 12:47 +0100, Martin Stransky wrote:
 contains working NPAPI plugin support,

That is a good new, 

about drop gtk 1 , IIRC gtk 1 just exit because someone want maintain
xmms in Fedora .


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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-16 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Qui, 2014-01-16 at 12:47 +0100, Martin Stransky wrote: 
 New builds are available at copr [1]. Package firefox-gtk3-29.0-3 
 contains working NPAPI plugin support, so flash and other should work there.
 
 Please report any issue to bugzila (firefox component) and note it's the 
 gtk3 port.

Hi, 
I use and like yum-plugin-tmprepo to install it 

yum
--tmprepo=http://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/stransky/FirefoxGtk3/fedora-20-x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml
 install firefox-gtk3.x86_64 --nogpg

we need uninstall firefox ? 

but I can't startup firefox-gtk3 ends with Segmentation fault (core
dumped) , 
and abrt say: Retrace server is unable to process package
'firefox-gtk3-29.0-3.fc20.x86_64'.

Checking for duplicates
Creating a new bug
fatal: RPC failed at server.  There is no component named 'firefox-gtk3'
in the 'Fedora' product.
('report_Bugzilla' exited with 1)

 Thanks!
 ma.
 
 [1] http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/stransky/FirefoxGtk3/
 
 On 01/13/2014 04:15 PM, Martin Stransky wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  first $SUBJ is available at:
 
  http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/
 
  It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse
  youtube ;-)) but may work as a preview.
 
  I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.
 
  ma.
 

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-16 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 20:18 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
 personally if a GTK user does not want GTK3 i want a pure
 QT firefox to get rid of GTK-dialogs
 
 i know that will not happen, but on the KDE desktop *any* GTK2 or GTK3
 application is much more disturbing as the difference GTK2/GTK3

When I'm on KDE I use Rekonq, which is very nice. If you haven't tried
it in the past year or so and don't use many Firefox extensions, give it
a shot.


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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Nicolas Mailhot

Le Lun 13 janvier 2014 21:33, drago01 a écrit :

 No it cannot. Most of this flash implemenations only work to play
 flash you don't want anyway (i.e ads).

Unfortunately I've found out a lot of companies that grew around brick and
mortar distribution only describe their products in flashified versions of
their usual dead wood catalogs. (some software editors made a killing
converting those to flash when a pdf would have been perfectly adequate).
And those do not work in any flash replacement I've seen

And web stores often do not describe the products, you have to go through
the manufacturer flash to get characteristics.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread drago01
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Nicolas Mailhot
nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:

 Le Lun 13 janvier 2014 21:33, drago01 a écrit :

 No it cannot. Most of this flash implemenations only work to play
 flash you don't want anyway (i.e ads).

 Unfortunately I've found out a lot of companies that grew around brick and
 mortar distribution only describe their products in flashified versions of
 their usual dead wood catalogs. (some software editors made a killing
 converting those to flash when a pdf would have been perfectly adequate).
 And those do not work in any flash replacement I've seen

 And web stores often do not describe the products, you have to go through
 the manufacturer flash to get characteristics.

That's what I have said. Useful stuff doesn't work (mostly) useless
stuff (ads) works mostly.
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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/13/2014 09:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 13.01.2014 20:50, schrieb Martin Stransky:

On 01/13/2014 05:57 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:

On 01/13/2014 04:41 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:


I don't say it's important/newsworthy. It's just FYI. Please ignore if
you're not interested.



Ok, I'll rephrase.

I'm interested but I have no idea how this is different from every
other Firefox build that Fedora provides.  Could you elaborate on the
change some and why it's being made?



Ahh, Okay. The package is build with Gtk3 toolkit [1] (the recent official
ones are Gtk2) so it's a regular Gtk3 app which should better fit to Gnome 3
desktop, use themes/skins and so.

The long term plan is to switch Fedora Firefox to Gtk3 so this is just a
tech preview. Full of bugs, of course :)


Does this, or will this, have gstreamer support enabled?


It's the same as the gtk2 package, gstreamer support does not depend on 
toolkit. IIRC the test package has
gstreamer enabled as well as the latest official Fedora Firefox builds


if that would be true it would support H264 through gstreamer
your last answers on bugreports are saying the opposite

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009715#c4



See Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=843583 for details. 
Jan Horak is working on that.



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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/13/2014 09:33 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
[...]


It's the same as the gtk2 package, gstreamer support does not depend on
toolkit. IIRC the test package has gstreamer enabled as well as the latest
official Fedora Firefox builds.


It was said in bug [1] comment 9 that it wouldn't be enabled until gst
1 support landed which I believe is either there [2] or mostly so. I
see it's enabled in the rpm but it doesn't appear to work and it's
only with gst 0.10

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=843583
[2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=806917



Yes, that's correct. It's because mozilla fixed a blocker bug in 
gstreamer-0.10 support so we can enable at least the old one. Please 
update the bug [1] if it does not work for you.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 14.01.2014 13:18, schrieb Martin Stransky:
 On 01/13/2014 09:33 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
 [...]
 
 It's the same as the gtk2 package, gstreamer support does not depend on
 toolkit. IIRC the test package has gstreamer enabled as well as the latest
 official Fedora Firefox builds.

 It was said in bug [1] comment 9 that it wouldn't be enabled until gst
 1 support landed which I believe is either there [2] or mostly so. I
 see it's enabled in the rpm but it doesn't appear to work and it's
 only with gst 0.10

 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=843583
 [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=806917

 
 Yes, that's correct. It's because mozilla fixed a blocker bug in 
 gstreamer-0.10 support so we can enable at least
 the old one. Please update the bug [1] if it does not work for you

see bugreport

for me latest official Fedora Firefox builds was released to updates-stable

the last koji FF-build with no dependency to xulrunner (thanks for that since
Thunderbird no longer is using the xulrunner package) works fine



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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread H . Guémar
What's the point ? There's absolutely no benefit in keeping Gtk+2 longer.
Gtk+ 2.24.0 has been released 3 years ago (january, 2011) and is only
receiving bugfix due to existing apps who didn't move to Gtk+3.
By migrating more apps, we can drop Gtk+ 2.24 (at least from images),
firefox is one of the major application that prevents us to do so.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 15:22:52 +0100
Maros Zatko mza...@redhat.com wrote:

  [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699
 What can do users who doesn't want that gtk3 port?
 For some users reasoning that it works better in gnome-shell is
 just not enough.


I don't use Gnome, works fine in Xfce (F20) but unusable
due to  stated colour bug(s)


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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth

H. Guémar wrote:

What's the point ? There's absolutely no benefit in keeping Gtk+2 longer.
Gtk+ 2.24.0 has been released 3 years ago (january, 2011) and is only receiving
bugfix due to existing apps who didn't move to Gtk+3.
By migrating more apps, we can drop Gtk+ 2.24 (at least from images), firefox is
one of the major application that prevents us to do so.


You'll never (in the foreseeable future) be able to drop GTK2. Firefox will 
still need it to run NSAPI plugins.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 08:49:05AM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
 H. Guémar wrote:
 What's the point ? There's absolutely no benefit in keeping Gtk+2 longer.
 Gtk+ 2.24.0 has been released 3 years ago (january, 2011) and is only 
 receiving
 bugfix due to existing apps who didn't move to Gtk+3.
 By migrating more apps, we can drop Gtk+ 2.24 (at least from images), 
 firefox is
 one of the major application that prevents us to do so.
 
 You'll never (in the foreseeable future) be able to drop GTK2.
 Firefox will still need it to run NSAPI plugins.

In fact Fedora still ships GTK *1*. If we can't even get rid of GTK1,
then talk of killing GTK2 seems wildly over optimistic.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread H . Guémar
2014/1/14 Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com


 In fact Fedora still ships GTK *1*. If we can't even get rid of GTK1,
 then talk of killing GTK2 seems wildly over optimistic.

 Regards,
 Daniel


I'll quote myself again: at least from base images , not removing it from
repositories.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/13/2014 04:16 PM, Christopher Meng wrote:

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:

Hi guys,

first $SUBJ is available at:

http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/

It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse youtube
;-)) but may work as a preview.

I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.


You can build it on copr!


Good idea!

http://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/stransky/FirefoxGtk3/

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.01.2014 15:59, schrieb Daniel P. Berrange:
 On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 08:49:05AM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
 H. Guémar wrote:
 What's the point ? There's absolutely no benefit in keeping Gtk+2 longer.
 Gtk+ 2.24.0 has been released 3 years ago (january, 2011) and is only 
 receiving
 bugfix due to existing apps who didn't move to Gtk+3.
 By migrating more apps, we can drop Gtk+ 2.24 (at least from images), 
 firefox is
 one of the major application that prevents us to do so.

 You'll never (in the foreseeable future) be able to drop GTK2.
 Firefox will still need it to run NSAPI plugins.
 
 In fact Fedora still ships GTK *1*. If we can't even get rid of GTK1,
 then talk of killing GTK2 seems wildly over optimistic

yes, because nobody cared about to migrate whatever packages
to GTK2 and that is why it's good to not repeat that and
think about how to get rid of GTK2 on a long way

what packages require GTK1, are they maintained?

[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -qa | grep gtk | wc -l
12

[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -qa | grep gtk
gtk2-2.24.22-2.fc20.x86_64
gtkmm24-2.24.4-2.fc20.x86_64
gtkspell-2.0.16-7.fc20.x86_64
oxygen-gtk2-1.4.1-1.fc20.x86_64
pygtk2-2.24.0-8.fc20.x86_64
oxygen-gtk3-1.3.1-1.fc20.x86_64
gtk3-3.10.6-1.fc20.x86_64
webkitgtk-2.2.3-1.fc20.x86_64
npapi-vlc-gtk-2.0.6-1.fc20.x86_64
pygtk2-libglade-2.24.0-8.fc20.x86_64
oxygen-gtk-1.2.0-5.fc20.noarch
usermode-gtk-1.111-4.fc20.x86_64




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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
 H. Guémar wrote:

 What's the point ? There's absolutely no benefit in keeping Gtk+2 longer.
 Gtk+ 2.24.0 has been released 3 years ago (january, 2011) and is only
 receiving
 bugfix due to existing apps who didn't move to Gtk+3.
 By migrating more apps, we can drop Gtk+ 2.24 (at least from images),
 firefox is
 one of the major application that prevents us to do so.


 You'll never (in the foreseeable future) be able to drop GTK2. Firefox will
 still need it to run NSAPI plugins.

Is it possible to split the NSAPI components out into a sub package
and hence remove the dependence on gtk2 for those people that don't
use NSAPI plugins?

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Maros Zatko

On 01/14/2014 03:38 PM, H. Guémar wrote:

What's the point ?

Personally, it's mainly about not throwing gnome 3 HIG at people.

There's absolutely no benefit in keeping Gtk+2 longer.
Gtk+ 2.24.0 has been released 3 years ago (january, 2011) and is only 
receiving bugfix due to existing apps who didn't move to Gtk+3.

Oh yes, Wayland.
By migrating more apps, we can drop Gtk+ 2.24 (at least from images), 
firefox is one of the major application that prevents us to do so.


H.




Is it possible to keep current gtk 2 face as a different plugin/frontend?

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 14.01.2014 19:12, schrieb Maros Zatko:
 On 01/14/2014 03:38 PM, H. Guémar wrote:
 What's the point ?
 Personally, it's mainly about not throwing gnome 3 HIG at people

personally if a GTK user does not want GTK3 i want a pure
QT firefox to get rid of GTK-dialogs

i know that will not happen, but on the KDE desktop *any* GTK2 or GTK3
application is much more disturbing as the difference GTK2/GTK3

 There's absolutely no benefit in keeping Gtk+2 longer.
 Gtk+ 2.24.0 has been released 3 years ago (january, 2011) and is only 
 receiving bugfix due to existing apps who
 didn't move to Gtk+3.
 Oh yes, Wayland

maybe make more pressure on the topic

 By migrating more apps, we can drop Gtk+ 2.24 (at least from images), 
 firefox is one of the major application
 that prevents us to do so.
 
 Is it possible to keep current gtk 2 face as a different plugin/frontend?

who would maintain it?



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Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Martin Stransky

Hi guys,

first $SUBJ is available at:

http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/

It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse 
youtube ;-)) but may work as a preview.


I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Christopher Meng
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:
 Hi guys,

 first $SUBJ is available at:

 http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/

 It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse youtube
 ;-)) but may work as a preview.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:
 Hi guys,

 first $SUBJ is available at:

 http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/

 It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse youtube
 ;-)) but may work as a preview.

 I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.

Could you explain why this is important/newsworthy?

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 01/13/2014 04:29 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com
 wrote:

 Hi guys,

 first $SUBJ is available at:

 http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/

 It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse
 youtube
 ;-)) but may work as a preview.

 I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.


 Could you explain why this is important/newsworthy?


 I don't say it's important/newsworthy. It's just FYI. Please ignore if
 you're not interested.

Ok, I'll rephrase.

I'm interested but I have no idea how this is different from every
other Firefox build that Fedora provides.  Could you elaborate on the
change some and why it's being made?

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 13.01.2014 16:41, schrieb Josh Boyer:
 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 01/13/2014 04:29 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com
 wrote:
 Hi guys,

 first $SUBJ is available at:

 http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/

 It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse
 youtube
 ;-)) but may work as a preview.

 I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.


 Could you explain why this is important/newsworthy?


 I don't say it's important/newsworthy. It's just FYI. Please ignore if
 you're not interested.
 
 Ok, I'll rephrase.
 
 I'm interested but I have no idea how this is different from every
 other Firefox build that Fedora provides.  Could you elaborate on the
 change some and why it's being made?

most likely to have a chance to get rid of gtk2 package which otherwise
you would need forever installed and loaded by using FF on GNOME3



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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/13/2014 04:41 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:

I don't say it's important/newsworthy. It's just FYI. Please ignore if
you're not interested.


Ok, I'll rephrase.

I'm interested but I have no idea how this is different from every
other Firefox build that Fedora provides.  Could you elaborate on the
change some and why it's being made?


Ahh, Okay. The package is build with Gtk3 toolkit [1] (the recent 
official ones are Gtk2) so it's a regular Gtk3 app which should better 
fit to Gnome 3 desktop, use themes/skins and so.


The long term plan is to switch Fedora Firefox to Gtk3 so this is just a 
tech preview. Full of bugs, of course :)


ma.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699
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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 01/13/2014 04:41 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:

 I don't say it's important/newsworthy. It's just FYI. Please ignore if
 you're not interested.


 Ok, I'll rephrase.

 I'm interested but I have no idea how this is different from every
 other Firefox build that Fedora provides.  Could you elaborate on the
 change some and why it's being made?


 Ahh, Okay. The package is build with Gtk3 toolkit [1] (the recent official
 ones are Gtk2) so it's a regular Gtk3 app which should better fit to Gnome 3
 desktop, use themes/skins and so.

 The long term plan is to switch Fedora Firefox to Gtk3 so this is just a
 tech preview. Full of bugs, of course :)

Great, thanks for explaining!

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/13/2014 04:48 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 13.01.2014 16:41, schrieb Josh Boyer:

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:

On 01/13/2014 04:29 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com
wrote:

Hi guys,

first $SUBJ is available at:

http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/

It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse
youtube
;-)) but may work as a preview.

I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.



Could you explain why this is important/newsworthy?



I don't say it's important/newsworthy. It's just FYI. Please ignore if
you're not interested.


Ok, I'll rephrase.

I'm interested but I have no idea how this is different from every
other Firefox build that Fedora provides.  Could you elaborate on the
change some and why it's being made?


most likely to have a chance to get rid of gtk2 package which otherwise
you would need forever installed and loaded by using FF on GNOME3



Unfortunately that's not entirely true unless you want to run it without 
NPAPI plugin support. The recent solution links plugin-container to gtk2 
libraries to run flash and so (Java is not supported because it does not 
run OOP).


When flash plugin is replaced by shumway [1] we can build FF as pure 
gtk3 app and emulate flash by JS.


ma.

[1] http://mozilla.github.io/shumway/
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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:49:09 +0100
Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:

 Ahh, Okay. The package is build with Gtk3 toolkit [1] (the recent 
 official ones are Gtk2) so it's a regular Gtk3 app which should
 better fit to Gnome 3 desktop, use themes/skins and so.
 

I have Xfce but is it ok to test it?
If it in the pipeline it eventually come out.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Heiko Adams
Am 13.01.2014 16:55, schrieb Frank Murphy:
 On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:49:09 +0100
 Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 Ahh, Okay. The package is build with Gtk3 toolkit [1] (the recent 
 official ones are Gtk2) so it's a regular Gtk3 app which should
 better fit to Gnome 3 desktop, use themes/skins and so.

 
 I have Xfce but is it ok to test it?
 If it in the pipeline it eventually come out.
 
AFAIK Xfce will switch to Gtk3 step by step with the next releases so
using Gtk2 will become a dead horse more and more in the near future.

Regards,

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/13/2014 04:55 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:49:09 +0100
Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:


Ahh, Okay. The package is build with Gtk3 toolkit [1] (the recent
official ones are Gtk2) so it's a regular Gtk3 app which should
better fit to Gnome 3 desktop, use themes/skins and so.



I have Xfce but is it ok to test it?
If it in the pipeline it eventually come out.


I don't believe there's any advantage for you unless you'd like to help 
to test it under Xfce.


Actually I tested it in MATE and it has wrong text/background colors and 
so, it's almost unusable. We need to fix all those bugs before switch 
from Gtk2.


ma.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 01/13/2014 04:41 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:

 I don't say it's important/newsworthy. It's just FYI. Please ignore if
 you're not interested.


 Ok, I'll rephrase.

 I'm interested but I have no idea how this is different from every
 other Firefox build that Fedora provides.  Could you elaborate on the
 change some and why it's being made?


 Ahh, Okay. The package is build with Gtk3 toolkit [1] (the recent official
 ones are Gtk2) so it's a regular Gtk3 app which should better fit to Gnome 3
 desktop, use themes/skins and so.

 The long term plan is to switch Fedora Firefox to Gtk3 so this is just a
 tech preview. Full of bugs, of course :)

Does this, or will this, have gstreamer support enabled?

Peter
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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Martin Stransky

On 01/13/2014 05:57 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:

On 01/13/2014 04:41 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:


I don't say it's important/newsworthy. It's just FYI. Please ignore if
you're not interested.



Ok, I'll rephrase.

I'm interested but I have no idea how this is different from every
other Firefox build that Fedora provides.  Could you elaborate on the
change some and why it's being made?



Ahh, Okay. The package is build with Gtk3 toolkit [1] (the recent official
ones are Gtk2) so it's a regular Gtk3 app which should better fit to Gnome 3
desktop, use themes/skins and so.

The long term plan is to switch Fedora Firefox to Gtk3 so this is just a
tech preview. Full of bugs, of course :)


Does this, or will this, have gstreamer support enabled?


It's the same as the gtk2 package, gstreamer support does not depend on 
toolkit. IIRC the test package has gstreamer enabled as well as the 
latest official Fedora Firefox builds.


ma.

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 13.01.2014 20:50, schrieb Martin Stransky:
 On 01/13/2014 05:57 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 01/13/2014 04:41 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:

 I don't say it's important/newsworthy. It's just FYI. Please ignore if
 you're not interested.


 Ok, I'll rephrase.

 I'm interested but I have no idea how this is different from every
 other Firefox build that Fedora provides.  Could you elaborate on the
 change some and why it's being made?


 Ahh, Okay. The package is build with Gtk3 toolkit [1] (the recent official
 ones are Gtk2) so it's a regular Gtk3 app which should better fit to Gnome 3
 desktop, use themes/skins and so.

 The long term plan is to switch Fedora Firefox to Gtk3 so this is just a
 tech preview. Full of bugs, of course :)

 Does this, or will this, have gstreamer support enabled?
 
 It's the same as the gtk2 package, gstreamer support does not depend on 
 toolkit. IIRC the test package has
 gstreamer enabled as well as the latest official Fedora Firefox builds

if that would be true it would support H264 through gstreamer
your last answers on bugreports are saying the opposite

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009715#c4




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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Seg, 2014-01-13 at 16:53 +0100, Martin Stransky wrote: 
 On 01/13/2014 04:48 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 
 
  Am 13.01.2014 16:41, schrieb Josh Boyer:
  On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com 
  wrote:
  On 01/13/2014 04:29 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com
  wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  first $SUBJ is available at:
 
  http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/
 
  It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse
  youtube
  ;-)) but may work as a preview.
 
  I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.
 
 
  Could you explain why this is important/newsworthy?
 
 
  I don't say it's important/newsworthy. It's just FYI. Please ignore if
  you're not interested.
 
  Ok, I'll rephrase.
 
  I'm interested but I have no idea how this is different from every
  other Firefox build that Fedora provides.  Could you elaborate on the
  change some and why it's being made?
 
  most likely to have a chance to get rid of gtk2 package which otherwise
  you would need forever installed and loaded by using FF on GNOME3
 
 
 Unfortunately that's not entirely true unless you want to run it without 
 NPAPI plugin support. The recent solution links plugin-container to gtk2 
 libraries to run flash and so (Java is not supported because it does not 
 run OOP).
 
 When flash plugin is replaced by shumway [1] we can build FF as pure 
 gtk3 app and emulate flash by JS.
 
 ma.
 
 [1] http://mozilla.github.io/shumway/

Hi, 
we have several replaces for flash plugin , but none works reasonably
I'm talking about gnash , Lightspark and other that don't remember  
this shumway could really replace flash plugin  ? 

and if your work is based on official .spec , could you provide us the
diff (patch)  that you already made for this package . 

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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
 On Seg, 2014-01-13 at 16:53 +0100, Martin Stransky wrote:
 On 01/13/2014 04:48 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 
 
  Am 13.01.2014 16:41, schrieb Josh Boyer:
  On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com 
  wrote:
  On 01/13/2014 04:29 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
 
  On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com
  wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  first $SUBJ is available at:
 
  http://stransky.fedorapeople.org/FirefoxGtk3/
 
  It's just a src.spm and plugin support it not finished (don't browse
  youtube
  ;-)) but may work as a preview.
 
  I'll provide Fedora builds and repo later.
 
 
  Could you explain why this is important/newsworthy?
 
 
  I don't say it's important/newsworthy. It's just FYI. Please ignore if
  you're not interested.
 
  Ok, I'll rephrase.
 
  I'm interested but I have no idea how this is different from every
  other Firefox build that Fedora provides.  Could you elaborate on the
  change some and why it's being made?
 
  most likely to have a chance to get rid of gtk2 package which otherwise
  you would need forever installed and loaded by using FF on GNOME3
 

 Unfortunately that's not entirely true unless you want to run it without
 NPAPI plugin support. The recent solution links plugin-container to gtk2
 libraries to run flash and so (Java is not supported because it does not
 run OOP).

 When flash plugin is replaced by shumway [1] we can build FF as pure
 gtk3 app and emulate flash by JS.

 ma.

 [1] http://mozilla.github.io/shumway/

 Hi,
 we have several replaces for flash plugin , but none works reasonably
 I'm talking about gnash , Lightspark and other that don't remember
 this shumway could really replace flash plugin  ?

No it cannot. Most of this flash implemenations only work to play
flash you don't want anyway (i.e ads).
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Re: Firefox Gtk3 test package

2014-01-13 Thread Peter Robinson
 Ahh, Okay. The package is build with Gtk3 toolkit [1] (the recent
 official
 ones are Gtk2) so it's a regular Gtk3 app which should better fit to
 Gnome 3
 desktop, use themes/skins and so.

 The long term plan is to switch Fedora Firefox to Gtk3 so this is just a
 tech preview. Full of bugs, of course :)


 Does this, or will this, have gstreamer support enabled?


 It's the same as the gtk2 package, gstreamer support does not depend on
 toolkit. IIRC the test package has gstreamer enabled as well as the latest
 official Fedora Firefox builds.

It was said in bug [1] comment 9 that it wouldn't be enabled until gst
1 support landed which I believe is either there [2] or mostly so. I
see it's enabled in the rpm but it doesn't appear to work and it's
only with gst 0.10

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=843583
[2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=806917
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