[EPEL-devel] Re: Retire mongodb from EPEL7
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 06:33:49AM -0700, Troy Dawson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 5:28 AM Andrew C Aitchison > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 22 Sep 2020, Patrik Novotny wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > there's intend to retire the mongodb package from EPEL7 [1]. As for > > > the MongoDB license change[2], we are not able to backport patches, > > > which leaves us shipping basically unmaintained release. > > > > > > Since that is generally not a good idea, we are deciding on retiring > > > the package. > > > > > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1855725 > > > [2] > > > https://www.mongodb.com/press/mongodb-issues-new-server-side-public-license-for-mongodb-community-server > > > > I received this announcement on the epel-devel list, but not via > > epel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org and I do not see it in the archive at > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/ > > (although the headers on the epel-devel copy I received do suggest it was > > sent to epel-announce). > > > epel-announce is a moderated mailing list. Sometimes it is quick, > sometimes it takes a day or two to get through. I get to moderation requests as soon as I can, but not while I am asleep. :) kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: Retire mongodb from EPEL7
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 5:28 AM Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Sep 2020, Patrik Novotny wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > there's intend to retire the mongodb package from EPEL7 [1]. As for > > the MongoDB license change[2], we are not able to backport patches, > > which leaves us shipping basically unmaintained release. > > > > Since that is generally not a good idea, we are deciding on retiring > > the package. > > > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1855725 > > [2] > > https://www.mongodb.com/press/mongodb-issues-new-server-side-public-license-for-mongodb-community-server > > I received this announcement on the epel-devel list, but not via > epel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org and I do not see it in the archive at > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/ > (although the headers on the epel-devel copy I received do suggest it was > sent to epel-announce). > epel-announce is a moderated mailing list. Sometimes it is quick, sometimes it takes a day or two to get through. Troy ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: Retire mongodb from EPEL7
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020, Patrik Novotny wrote: Hi, there's intend to retire the mongodb package from EPEL7 [1]. As for the MongoDB license change[2], we are not able to backport patches, which leaves us shipping basically unmaintained release. Since that is generally not a good idea, we are deciding on retiring the package. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1855725 [2] https://www.mongodb.com/press/mongodb-issues-new-server-side-public-license-for-mongodb-community-server I received this announcement on the epel-devel list, but not via epel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org and I do not see it in the archive at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/ (although the headers on the epel-devel copy I received do suggest it was sent to epel-announce). -- Andrew C. Aitchison Kendal, UK and...@aitchison.me.uk ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Retire mongodb from EPEL7
Hi, there's intend to retire the mongodb package from EPEL7 [1]. As for the MongoDB license change[2], we are not able to backport patches, which leaves us shipping basically unmaintained release. Since that is generally not a good idea, we are deciding on retiring the package. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1855725 [2] https://www.mongodb.com/press/mongodb-issues-new-server-side-public-license-for-mongodb-community-server -- Patrik Novotný Associate Software Engineer Red Hat panov...@redhat.com ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
Thanks Marek, that does clear up a lot of confusion. I think you're saying that because the maintainer is the same and the packages are essentially the same (in this case), it's reasonably likely maintenance of 2.6 for EPEL7 will continue until 2.6 reaches its end date in SCL (April 2018). Not certain, but signs point to yes. Is that a reasonable summary? Thanks! ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
> It's starting to look like the official MongoDB repositories might make a > whole lot > more sense for the average admin currently using EPEL MongoDB packages: > > https://docs.mongodb.com/v3.0/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-red-hat/ > > If I find out they aren't doing such a hot job with these, then the picture > might > change. It may serve good. Everyone have to decide what fits better for him... Some points: 1. I am not sure what is the current status of integration with systemctl (used on RHEL7). 2. Even upstream won't prepare CVE fixes after version EOL. 3. Upstream packages are bundling all dependent packages (~10 for 2.6) - so upstream have to handle also all (security) fixes for those packages. Not sure what is their policy. 3. SELinux support/integration is better for EPEL packages. ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
> 1. We have no access (no pun intended) to those packages.[Yes the > person packages mongodb in Fedora works for Red Hat but that does not > mean they have access to the bits that another group is doing for SCL > work.] First, everyone should have an access to those packages - available source code is required by most open source licenses. That is why CentOS can rebuild all RH stuff. Also person (currently me) packaging MongoDB in RedHat for Fedora and SCL is the same. > 2. SCL packages use their own form of magic and have their own > solutions to security issues. This can mean what they do for a > particular package won't work outside of an SCL environment. [This may > not be the case for mongodb.. I don't know enough to say yes/no.] MongoDB in collection is the same, only installed in different prefix. So patches for same MongoDB version inside SCL and in Fedora/EPEL are identical. ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
"What I am saying is that EPEL is made up of volunteers. If you are volunteering to do this work then great. If you are expecting that someone else is going to do this work for you.. then not so great." Oh, absolutely. I'm not under the slightest illusion that anybody owes me maintenance of an EPEL package. You can understand my desire to find out if somebody might be doing it. But I'm perfectly OK with the response that they probably won't. It's starting to look like the official MongoDB repositories might make a whole lot more sense for the average admin currently using EPEL MongoDB packages: https://docs.mongodb.com/v3.0/tutorial/install-mongodb-on-red-hat/ If I find out they aren't doing such a hot job with these, then the picture might change. ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
I see. Since MongoDB is under a GNU license, I assume you do not literally mean you have zero access to the changes being made to it in SCL. My assumption is that you actually mean there's no advanced or privileged access. So if some bad juju goes down, and we want to look to SCL For help, Marek or whoever is maintaining 2.6 for EPEL at the time would have to wait for those packages to appear in SCL before the process of porting them to EPEL can even begin, time during which 2.6 is still vulnerable. Yes? As for other solutions to security issues, is there any history of these packages resolving security issues with mongodb with external OS-level features rather than via patches to the code? It seems unlikely, in that a hack like firewalling it would be too unsubtle by half and break functionality outright. ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
Stephen, good question... I was looking here: https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/scls/rhscl/rh-mongodb26/ Which came up first in Google for rhsc mongodb, but that's not right. I should have been looking here: https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/rhscl The Software Collections pages are so much more SEO-friendly it's not surprising I wound up in the wrong place. OK, so does this "RHSC will maintain 2.6 until October 2018" policy mean that it's reasonable to expect the EPEL package to just leverage that work and keep on trucking until then? ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
On 1 November 2016 at 13:32, Tom Boutellwrote: > I think that if a CVE arrives that we can't easily address through a patch, > we have to be prepared to force an upgrade. Potentially "abandoning" a > package that has CVEs in the wild, in the hope people will read about an > optional upgrade, sounds like a policy we could regret. > > Is there any history of EPEL just abandoning a package? What should happen in > that situation? Perhaps it's been necessary at some point (no support > upstream, no one available downstream either...). There is an incredibly long history of EPEL abandoning packages for the above reasons all the time. It has been done pretty much from the get-go. The standard practice has been that when a package no longer is workable that it is withdrawn. Yes it sucks all around but in many cases this is the path that has been taken. > ___ > epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Stephen J Smoogen. ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
On 1 November 2016 at 13:33, Tom Boutellwrote: > Sorry, I just saw the part about RHSCL. But that page says: > > "Community Project: Maintained by upstream communities of developers. The > software is cared for, but the developers make no commitments to update the > repositories in a timely manner." > Do you have a link to that? There is softwarecollections.org which is the equivalent to EPEL. There is Red Hat Software Collections which is not a community product but a paid for serivce from Red Hat. > S... is there actually a commitment from Red Hat to patch that at all now > that the upstream is done with it? Are you the upstream they are referring > to? (: > ___ > epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Stephen J Smoogen. ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
Sorry, I just saw the part about RHSCL. But that page says: "Community Project: Maintained by upstream communities of developers. The software is cared for, but the developers make no commitments to update the repositories in a timely manner." S... is there actually a commitment from Red Hat to patch that at all now that the upstream is done with it? Are you the upstream they are referring to? (: ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
I think that if a CVE arrives that we can't easily address through a patch, we have to be prepared to force an upgrade. Potentially "abandoning" a package that has CVEs in the wild, in the hope people will read about an optional upgrade, sounds like a policy we could regret. Is there any history of EPEL just abandoning a package? What should happen in that situation? Perhaps it's been necessary at some point (no support upstream, no one available downstream either...). ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
To note, I've forgotten that MongoDB 2.6 is in RHSCL, so it should be supported till April 2018. Also I have no problem to backport easy fixes for EPEL6 too, but if problem is harder and it is not possible create relatively small patch, I can't manage big patches. Could some user want to still use old 2.6 version? How much to care about EPEL6? RHEL6 is in Production 2 phase... so no software enhancements. What is EPEL policy? Other option how to provide newer versions of MongoDB could be to prepare copr repositories witch each version. One pros for this option could be easier managing newer dependencies (I am afraid that newer versions requires packages that are not in EPEL - and adding new version specific packages to Fedora/EPEL requires package review... so it is harder:-). So other option how to solve this: Try to prepare copr repositories for each version to allow users to easily install and use new version. Keep 2.4 and 2.6 in EPEL6/7 and backport CVE fixes (it seems to me, that is not so often in MongoDB). And if some CVE appear that would not be so easy to fix (rewrite a lot of code), do upgrade to newer versions (~ build packages from copr in EPEL). Does someone know if there is some EPEL guideline which describes what is better solution? ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
Oops, I've copied my reply to the EPEL list as requested. On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Tom Boutellwrote: > There is no version 2.8 of Mongo, they renamed that to 3.0 before release of > 3.0. > > Just to provide a sense of the thought process other EPEL7 users might be > going through here: > > I started researching this when I became aware that 2.6 was nearing upstream > end-of-life (that is now happening today). > > I was aware of the recent major version upgrade of nodejs in EPEL7, so I > assumed something like that was imminent. However, when I looked here: > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=802214 > > I saw that there have been several patches to EPEL6 MongoDB 2.4 since it > reached its upstream end-of-life in March. > > So based on that evidence of prior commitment to maintaining MongoDB past > end-of-life, I assumed that the intention was to keep on backporting patches > to both 2.4 and 2.6. And I cancelled my red alert and stopped worrying about > transitioning to the official MongoDB repositories. > > However it sounds like Marek, as the maintainer, is saying he doesn't have > time to maintain 2.4 or 2.6. > > That's fair of course. Free is a very good price, and all that. (: > > For EPEL7, the upgrade seems fairly straightforward. 3.0 was really a > marketing switch in the name of 2.8. I have experienced few problems moving > projects between 3.0 and 2.6. Swapping the binaries and restarting is > officially supported according to the documentation. The compatibility break > pages are pretty short and there isn't much that would be in typical queries. > > For EPEL6, the upgrade is harder because you must first bump them to 2.6 and > then to 3.0, there is no support for moving directly from 2.4 to 3.0. We > could push out 2.6, wait a few weeks, and push out 3.0, but this would have a > very unsatisfactory result for people who just don't happen to upgrade during > those few weeks. They would get moved directly from 2.4 to 3.0 and the > process would not work. > > There are also more bc breaks moving from 2.4, 2.6 and above are "pickier," > notably a $set with no properties in the object will fail. > https://docs.mongodb.com/v2.6/release-notes/2.6-compatibility/#driver-compatibility-changes > > In both cases, a proper announcement is necessary. > > A fair question is whether we should move to 3.0 or 3.2. The folks > maintaining nodejs for EPEL chose to move from 0.10 to 6.x, skipping 4.x, > because one bc break is better than two. > > So what I would suggest is this: > > FOR EPEL 6 > > * Announce our intentions. > * IN THE MEANTIME: If any really major security fails occur between now and > when we get this done, we grit our teeth and patch 2.4. > * Publish a 3.0 package that refuses to install with an appropriate error > message if it sees 2.4 (but is fine with seeing 2.6). > * Simultaneously publish 2.6-for-upgrading package; the instructions for > those with 2.4 point you to that package, and to this URL: > > https://docs.mongodb.com/v3.2/release-notes/2.6-upgrade/ > > * Users must manually install the 2.6-for-upgrading package, since the > possible complexities of a 2.4 to 2.6 upgrade are beyond an automated > post-install script IMHO. Notably: > > https://docs.mongodb.com/v3.2/release-notes/2.6-upgrade/#upgrade-auth-prereq > > * Once a user succeeds in that process, they can "yum update" painlessly to > 3.0 like the EPEL7 people (see below). > > FOR EPEL 7 > > * Announce our intentions. I don't know how much notice is thought > appropriate. The nodejs maintainers gave a lot of warning, but they also knew > what was up way before end of life (: > * Prepare a package for 3.0. It's a forced upgrade from 2.6. > * Release it. If possible, print this URL after install: > https://docs.mongodb.com/v3.2/release-notes/3.0-compatibility/ > * Done (: > > Just my suggestion — I realize I just blew into town. > > Hope we can figure this out before the next CVE! > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org -- THOMAS BOUTELL, SUPPORT LEAD P'UNK AVENUE | (215) 755-1330 | punkave.com ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
There is no version 2.8 of Mongo, they renamed that to 3.0 before release of 3.0. Just to provide a sense of the thought process other EPEL7 users might be going through here: I started researching this when I became aware that 2.6 was nearing upstream end-of-life (that is now happening today). I was aware of the recent major version upgrade of nodejs in EPEL7, so I assumed something like that was imminent. However, when I looked here: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=802214 I saw that there have been several patches to EPEL6 MongoDB 2.4 since it reached its upstream end-of-life in March. So based on that evidence of prior commitment to maintaining MongoDB past end-of-life, I assumed that the intention was to keep on backporting patches to both 2.4 and 2.6. And I cancelled my red alert and stopped worrying about transitioning to the official MongoDB repositories. However it sounds like Marek, as the maintainer, is saying he doesn't have time to maintain 2.4 or 2.6. That's fair of course. Free is a very good price, and all that. (: For EPEL7, the upgrade seems fairly straightforward. 3.0 was really a marketing switch in the name of 2.8. I have experienced few problems moving projects between 3.0 and 2.6. Swapping the binaries and restarting is officially supported according to the documentation. The compatibility break pages are pretty short and there isn't much that would be in typical queries. For EPEL6, the upgrade is harder because you must first bump them to 2.6 and then to 3.0, there is no support for moving directly from 2.4 to 3.0. We could push out 2.6, wait a few weeks, and push out 3.0, but this would have a very unsatisfactory result for people who just don't happen to upgrade during those few weeks. They would get moved directly from 2.4 to 3.0 and the process would not work. There are also more bc breaks moving from 2.4, 2.6 and above are "pickier," notably a $set with no properties in the object will fail. https://docs.mongodb.com/v2.6/release-notes/2.6-compatibility/#driver-compatibility-changes In both cases, a proper announcement is necessary. A fair question is whether we should move to 3.0 or 3.2. The folks maintaining nodejs for EPEL chose to move from 0.10 to 6.x, skipping 4.x, because one bc break is better than two. So what I would suggest is this: FOR EPEL 6 * Announce our intentions. * IN THE MEANTIME: If any really major security fails occur between now and when we get this done, we grit our teeth and patch 2.4. * Publish a 3.0 package that refuses to install with an appropriate error message if it sees 2.4 (but is fine with seeing 2.6). * Simultaneously publish 2.6-for-upgrading package; the instructions for those with 2.4 point you to that package, and to this URL: https://docs.mongodb.com/v3.2/release-notes/2.6-upgrade/ * Users must manually install the 2.6-for-upgrading package, since the possible complexities of a 2.4 to 2.6 upgrade are beyond an automated post-install script IMHO. Notably: https://docs.mongodb.com/v3.2/release-notes/2.6-upgrade/#upgrade-auth-prereq * Once a user succeeds in that process, they can "yum update" painlessly to 3.0 like the EPEL7 people (see below). FOR EPEL 7 * Announce our intentions. I don't know how much notice is thought appropriate. The nodejs maintainers gave a lot of warning, but they also knew what was up way before end of life (: * Prepare a package for 3.0. It's a forced upgrade from 2.6. * Release it. If possible, print this URL after install: https://docs.mongodb.com/v3.2/release-notes/3.0-compatibility/ * Done (: Just my suggestion — I realize I just blew into town. Hope we can figure this out before the next CVE! ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
Hi, thanks for answers and suggestion that epel-de...@lists.fp.o would be better - so I've posted it there https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/TQPBQ25T6F323WYOGNOB6XYMEZDCSFEK/ Marek ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[EPEL-devel] MongoDB in EPEL7
Hi, current situation: EPEL6 - MongoDB 2.4.x EPEL7 - MongoDB 2.6.x Upstream supports only upgrade to next major version. So from 2.4 it is supported only to 2.6. Therefore I kept MongoDB 2.6 in EPEL7 (even two next major versions are released). But MongoDB 2.6 is going to EOL (probably this week), so MongoDB in EPEL7 will be unsupported. How to solve this - what EPEL/Fedora guidelines says about upgrades? Upgrade EPEL6 to EPEL7? Or keep unsupported version in EPEL7? I've post same question to de...@lists.fp.o [1] - there I was noticed that epel-devel would be better. Upstream says that there might be some minor incompatibilities between major releases and it suggests users to check and fix these incompatibilities before upgrade. So these upgrade might break some users instances. I like answer of Peter Robinson [2] - upgrade to next major version. Left some time for users to upgrade to this new version and after that prepare major upgrade again. Does this comply to guidelines? (If I send some announcement to this listbefore) Thanks, Marek [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4LX7UAETNOAACF6AEU5DNQDRX3B3TFLU/ [2] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/IYEFYGXINNC76TOBIGOXC6MAWRDZKXCD/ ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to epel-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Marek Skalický <mskal...@redhat.com> wrote: > Hi, > current situation: > EPEL6 - MongoDB 2.4.x > EPEL7 - MongoDB 2.6.x > > Upstream supports only upgrade to next major version. So from 2.4 it is > supported only to 2.6. > Therefore I kept MongoDB 2.6 in EPEL7 (even two next major versions are > released). I'm not sure the logic of keeping el7 at 2.6 because el6 is at 2.4. The only real upgrade path is within the major el release, anything outside of that is likely something the user has to deal with (pull archived intermediate releases or similar). > But MongoDB 2.6 is going to EOL (probably this week), so MongoDB in > EPEL7 will be unsupported. > > How to solve this - what EPEL/Fedora guidelines says about upgrades? > Upgrade EPEL6 to EPEL7? Or keep unsupported version in EPEL7? I would only look at upgrade paths within the major EL release so move el7 to 2.8.x for an upgrade and then maybe in a month or two a bump to 3.0 (or what ever the path is) with decent notices etc. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
2016-10-31 14:25 GMT+01:00 Marek Skalický <mskal...@redhat.com>: > Hi, > current situation: > EPEL6 - MongoDB 2.4.x > EPEL7 - MongoDB 2.6.x > > Upstream supports only upgrade to next major version. So from 2.4 it is > supported only to 2.6. > Therefore I kept MongoDB 2.6 in EPEL7 (even two next major versions are > released). > > But MongoDB 2.6 is going to EOL (probably this week), so MongoDB in > EPEL7 will be unsupported. > > How to solve this - what EPEL/Fedora guidelines says about upgrades? > Upgrade EPEL6 to EPEL7? Or keep unsupported version in EPEL7? > If it's unsupported upstream, you need to send a heads-up on EPEL m-l, and wait for comments. Then, just push the update. I'm working on upgrading MongoDB to 3.2 in the CentOS SIGs space, it will require a //-installable boost package (I have a working boost159 package) but I'd be glad to share the work. Regards, H. > Thanks, > Marek > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: MongoDB in EPEL7
On 10/31/2016 09:25 AM, Marek Skalický wrote: > Hi, > current situation: > EPEL6 - MongoDB 2.4.x > EPEL7 - MongoDB 2.6.x > > Upstream supports only upgrade to next major version. So from 2.4 it is > supported only to 2.6. > Therefore I kept MongoDB 2.6 in EPEL7 (even two next major versions are > released). > > But MongoDB 2.6 is going to EOL (probably this week), so MongoDB in > EPEL7 will be unsupported. > > How to solve this - what EPEL/Fedora guidelines says about upgrades? > Upgrade EPEL6 to EPEL7? Or keep unsupported version in EPEL7? > > Thanks, > Marek Probably better to discuss this on epel-de...@lists.fp.o, but in the past it's not been uncommon to announce an impending upgrade on the lists with some lead time, put the new version in updates-testing with karma disabled and try to get some reasonable testing. Is MongoDB backwards-compatible between minor releases? If so, this should be straightforward. If not, it gets muddier, but ultimately we are all volunteers, so if supporting the EOL version is untenable, then upgrading is the only sane thing to do. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
MongoDB in EPEL7
Hi, current situation: EPEL6 - MongoDB 2.4.x EPEL7 - MongoDB 2.6.x Upstream supports only upgrade to next major version. So from 2.4 it is supported only to 2.6. Therefore I kept MongoDB 2.6 in EPEL7 (even two next major versions are released). But MongoDB 2.6 is going to EOL (probably this week), so MongoDB in EPEL7 will be unsupported. How to solve this - what EPEL/Fedora guidelines says about upgrades? Upgrade EPEL6 to EPEL7? Or keep unsupported version in EPEL7? Thanks, Marek ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
till made some updates to perl-MongoDB in epel7
till made some updates to perl-MongoDB in epel7 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/perl-MongoDB/ -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
till retired perl-MongoDB in epel7
till retired perl-MongoDB in epel7 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/perl-MongoDB/ -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel