Re: Zabbix doesn't run on Fedora 24

[stan]

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:39:32 +0200
Erik Logtenberg  wrote:

> Allright, fair enough. Thanks for this feedback, I will adjust my
> expectations accordingly.
> 
> Any tips maybe how to get the selinux-policy fixed for Zabbix in F24
> though?

To confirm that it is an selinux problem, you could, as root, run
setenforce 0
to put selinux in permissive mode and then try starting zabbix.  If it
starts, it's an selinux problem, if it doesn't, there are other things
wrong.

To put selinux back in enforcing mode, run
setenforce 1
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Re: Zabbix doesn't run on Fedora 24

[stan]

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:39:32 +0200
Erik Logtenberg  wrote:

> Allright, fair enough. Thanks for this feedback, I will adjust my
> expectations accordingly.
> 
> Any tips maybe how to get the selinux-policy fixed for Zabbix in F24
> though?

Usually SELinux will give suggestions for how to fix a problem when it
fails.  Have you tried implementing those suggestions?

To get it fixed permanently, open a ticket at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/
against selinux for zabbix.
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Re: Zabbix doesn't run on Fedora 24

[Erik Logtenberg]

Allright, fair enough. Thanks for this feedback, I will adjust my
expectations accordingly.

Any tips maybe how to get the selinux-policy fixed for Zabbix in F24 though?

Kind regards,

Erik.


Op 18-09-16 om 10:35 schreef Adam Williamson:
> On Fri, 2016-09-16 at 23:18 +0200, Erik Logtenberg wrote:
>> On a side note, I am still puzzled that this package is non-functional
>> in Fedora. Volker said he couldn't test on all Fedora releases, but is
>> it not basic Fedora QA policy to at the very least test if a package
>> actually runs on the current release with default settings?
> 
> No. We don't systematically test all packages in the distribution,
> there are far too many. Anyone giving positive karma on an update
> should at least check it basically worked, but the last zabbix update
> was not tested by anyone, it was pushed stable without feedback after
> the minimum wait period expired.
> 
>> I suppose such a basic test could even be automated relatively simply.
> 
> Not...really, no. There are thousands of packages in the distribution.
> Not all of them provide something you can 'run', exactly. Of the ones
> that do, there is no particular single way you can test if they 'ran
> OK'. Humans are good at this. Robots aren't.
> 
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Re: Zabbix doesn't run on Fedora 24

[Kevin Kofler]

Erik Logtenberg wrote:
> On a side note, I am still puzzled that this package is non-functional
> in Fedora. Volker said he couldn't test on all Fedora releases, but is
> it not basic Fedora QA policy to at the very least test if a package
> actually runs on the current release with default settings?

We packagers do not have all supported Fedora releases installed. There are 
4 different releases to care about right now: F23, F24, F25 (Branched) and 
Rawhide (F26+). What usually happens is that the maintainer tries the new 
version on the Fedora release he/she is running and then relies on user 
feedback in Bodhi for the others.

The packager also does not necessarily have SELinux enabled on his/her 
system. (In fact, the easiest solution if you are running into selinux-
policy bugs is to just disable the thing.)

And finally, if the old version was already broken (due a bug in another, 
unrelated package), how is the maintainer supposed to test the update (other 
than by disabling SELinux or setting it permissive)? The update is not a 
regression.

Kevin Kofler
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Zabbix doesn't run on Fedora 24

[Erik Logtenberg]

Hi guys,

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, so my apologies if you
feel that is not the case.

The zabbix package doesn't run on Fedora 24, due to a restriction in the
selinux-policy. This wasn't an issue on earlier versions of Fedora, but
since 24 Zabbix just doesn't work anymore. There is an open bug on this:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1349998

Usually the selinux-policy guys pick this up pretty quickly, but maybe
this bug was somehow overlooked. I posted some small updates, apparently
kind of annoyed Volker Fröhlich in the process - which wasn't my
intention by the way. What is the right way to get this bug to the
attention of the selinux-policy guys?

On a side note, I am still puzzled that this package is non-functional
in Fedora. Volker said he couldn't test on all Fedora releases, but is
it not basic Fedora QA policy to at the very least test if a package
actually runs on the current release with default settings?
I suppose such a basic test could even be automated relatively simply.

Kind regards,

Erik.
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