Re: right pilgrim setup for 8.2.1 staging builds
Hi Ties, quote who=Ties Stuij we need to base a release on the latest 8.2.1 changes here in Nepal, however I can't find a public pilgrim repo that is actually configured right. If you wait about a day, cjb is doing a signed release based on staging version 30 of 8.2.1, which is pretty good. http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/ Cheers, Pia ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Deployment weekly meetups - starting Tues January 20th 2009
Hi all, As a person running some OLPC trials, I have been struck by the lack of communication and technical peer support of deployments. I thought it would be useful to kick off weekly meetups between people doing deployments to share knowledge, ask and answer questions, and to generally touch base with others doing similar projects :) Anyone is welcome, and I expect we'll also see people from developer and other communities come along, but the focus will be on deployers' needs. Considering deployments are happening all around the world in all different time zones, I've committed to running two meetings a week. One at 3pm Tuesday Boston time, and one at 3am Wednesday Boston time and are expected to last about an hour. This way no matter what time zone you are in, you can meet up with others. If one meeting ends up being far more popular than the other, then we'll just do just one meetup, and I've tried to choose a pair of times that balance different regions I know are doing deloyments today. Because I'll be facilitating both meetings, I hope to ensure we don't lose information transfer between the different groups. Appropriate info gathered will be documented publicly and hopefully the deployment guide continually updated for others out of this process. Feedback from deployers will also be fed back to developer groups and hopefully this will help facilitate developers better understanding the needs of deployments. Meetups will be via IRC (which will make it a little easier to script into other languages and to record) and a basic agenda will be maintained on the wiki here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings Meetings to commence January 20th, and all details are on the link above. Looking forward to meeting more deployment gurus out there and hearing about the awesome successes we are all having around the world! Please forward on to any lists or people you think will be interested. Thank you! Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Friends http://olpcfriends.org/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ What are we doing today brain? We're taking over the world like we always do. - Pinky and the Brain ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Urgent need of wireless certification
Hi all, Could someone please point me to any wireless certification the XO has (European if possible) which should have been a requirement for selling them in the UK. I urgently need this certificate to complete the registration of the device in Australia and the Pacific. I completed the EMC certification process, but to register the device I need the wireless certificate. Thanks! Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Friends http://olpcfriends.org/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ If you have any trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you how it's done. - Scott Adams ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC XS 0.5 Released
Hi all, quote who=Martin Langhoff OLPC XS 0.5 is ready! -- the release was quietly made available about a week ago now but the week was insanely busy, so the announcement was held a bit. So if you haven'tdownloaded it yet, go now to http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/ Yay!!! thanks to all, this is great. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Friends http://olpcfriends.org/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution. - Bill Hicks ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Backup of laptops
Hi Douglas, quote who=Douglas Bagnall Do any files under /library/users/ have the wrong ownership? (perhaps owned by a different laptop). If so, then the problem might well be fixed by this patch: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/martin/ds-backup.git;a=commitdiff;h=8266a15e62600ac1a4fbe7a656472a67a640e35b They have the right ownership, and the ds-backup.py on my 767 image doesn't look the same as in that trac log. I'll look into it some more. Thanks Douglas. Cheers, Pia -- Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Health] VideoChat is working now - hooray!
Hi all, quote who=Martin Langhoff exactly. There's a lot of fun to be had, and a lot to learn with this. Might be useful in some cases (perhaps growing number of cases, if connectivity improves over time) and more things become viable. For health purposes, it will probably not be useful, except for a tiny % of cases. If people want health tools, that's a different project. Let's refocus that camera on collaboration and education. The Videochat app will largely be used for counselling, speech pathology, and generally for remote support to students in regions where they don't have easy access to any of the above. Obviously they'll also have fun with it, and we are looking at connecting up classrooms of children to do cultural exchanges and learning. I believe it will play a basic eHealth role in future where children/adults can communicate with health professionals for basic remote health service, which, although would require very high res for anything particualrly complicated, would be better than what some of these communities currently have. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ What are we doing today brain? We're taking over the world like we always do. - Pinky and the Brain ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Health] VideoChat is working now - hooray!
Hi all, quote who=Harshvardhan true. plus a good broadband network connection, The video is relatively small and the broadband requirements don't appear to be ridiculously high. I guess I would ask that you all download and test the app, see what it is capable, of, post to the list and VideoChat page your findings, and the potentially pitch in to making it better :) Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ He who loves the world as his body may be entrusted with the empire. - Lao-tzu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
VideoChat is working now - hooray!
Hi all, We now have Videochat v9 which works. This is a great thing that will help children connect, and in particular help with remote support for children. It could assist with eHealth, remote education, speech therapy and any number of useful functions. Anyway, it also needs more hacking, so anyone interested in helping should have a play and get involved. Currently it only does basic video conferencing between 2 laptops but the vision (as it states on the webpage) is for whiteboard functionality and more. Anyway, thought there would probably be a few of you for whom this would be useful :) Download and information: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free. - Bill Hicks ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] physical security issue
Hi all, quote who=Sameer Verma I'm doing a reasonable AA trial and I'll post how it goes to the list soon. It seems to be working quite well though in initial tests. How many XOs? At the moment the most to one AA is 45, and it was weird because with an earlier version of the XO software only up to 20 at a time could talk to each other, but the newer images all talk just fine (no changes to the AA or server). So 45 now work perfectly with 1 AA. It will likely grow to a 120 laptops to 2 AA's in a month or two, both will be fully documented. I'm plannning on writing up all my network diagrams, configs and the rest on wiki.laptop.org in the coming week or two as the initial implementation is being finalised this week. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution. - Bill Hicks ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Peru and Microsoft announcement
Hi SJ, quote who=Samuel Klein We don't have to frame it as us vs. them. We can just announce the state of current deployments, and discuss plans for future deployments and G1G1, including whatever can be said in public about the Microsoft trials. Everybody wants to know what's up with the Amazon deal, too. We could have a formulaic please check out our latest public announcements email, and a list that media orgs can sign up to to receive regular pointers to longer announcements. Something between the sporadic Press Release and the detailed weekly community-news blurbs. Yes, that'd be awesome. Perhaps a monthly digest with highlights from the community news, and anything that OLPC wants to communicate to the wide world. It was mentioned the community news has only 2000 subscribers. I didn't even know it was public although I've heard about it, and I've had people be tentative about forwarding it thinking it was an internal resource, so it probably needs to be promoted more as an open public resource, if that is it's purpose. I believe there is an internal newsletter, why doesn't OLPC have a monthly public news feed that is on the main website that talks about stuff happening which would give the world (and community trying to support OLPC) the information we all need :) The amount of times I've had people both from the FOSS community and the general community ask me what is going on is crazy, and damaging. And I'm not even on the inside, I'm just involved with some regional projects! As mentioned elsewhere, we have a community-news list (http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/community-news), but it only goes out to some 2000 people. It might be valuable to have a list for shorter, more specific announcements that includes a regular link to the community-news archive, and any major essays or press pieces, which we can broadcast to a much larger audience. Definitely. An in which you can carefully message around the the successes and taboo topics to help people get it right. I think most of the problem at the moment is simply that people don't know what's going on half the time. If it is any help, Im sure there are many people in the community who would be happy to help (including me) with something like this, with keeping the general public and community informed in a more public fashion. There is generally a lot of good will towards the project around the world but real and positive public information is key to maintaining that good will. This is a good point. For instance, it would be useful to post and wikify the community-news archives on the wiki (this would both give them much higher google rank and help highlight red-links for a number of efforts, deployments, or concepts that deserve public descriptions but don't have their own page yet on our wiki). That'd be cool. It'd be great to have the latest post of community news and this regular update on the front page with a link to the subscriptions. Why don't you blog the updates so people can subscribe to the rss feed (and it can be aggregated OLPCnews.com for instance). Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ Women hold up half the sky. - Mao Tse Tung ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Major power concern
Hi all, I've just noticed that release candidate 765 when fully charged tells me I have 2 1/2 hours of usage. This is a major concern, and something we really need to fix for this release. As I tested it, it appeared to get about a minute or two to each percentage of battery. Below are some initial results as I know people want them sooner rather than later :) I was asked in #olpc to see if ohmd is running. It is. Anything else I can check for? I found that by default the power savings option was turned off. I turned it on for one of the test laptops below. All laptops were simply turned on and the mouse hovered over the battery symbol for status, no apps were run nor other activity run. The % is the indicated remaining battery time. Test 1 - default 765 image 765 started at (98%) fully charged 64% 1.48hrs remaining @ 65 mins running time 50% 1.24hrs remaining @ 98 mins running time 45% 1.16hrs remaining @ 108 mins running time Estiamted time = ~2 1/2 - 3hrs Test 2 - default 765 image but with power savings on 765 started at (93%) mostly charged with power savings turned on and rebooted 93% @ 0 mins running time 92% @ 2.35 10 mins running time 90% @ 2.32 35 mins running time 90% @ 2.32 41 mins running time 90% @ 2.32 50 mins running time Estimated full time = ~10hrs+ Test 3 - default 711 image 711 build started at (97%) fully charged (no percentage available) 94% @ 10 mins running time 89% @ 23 mins running time 84% @ 35 mins running time 73% @ 68 mins running time Estimated time = 4-5 hrs Please note these are initial results and I won't know for sure until another few hours for the first round, and a few repeats, but at least this gets other able to start testing :) This issue could be a major problem for this new release and if unfixed would seriously undermine the awesome efforts of all involved in the great changes for 8.2.0. Just for reference I've seen trials for primary schools with other devices and one of the main benefits of the XO over them was better power, so we need to maintain that :) If you are interested the other main reasons were screen size, the ease of prepacking a full suite of apps/content, the relative cost of the wireless infrastructure needed, and the community around OLPC. Cheers, Pia -- Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ He who loves the world as his body may be entrusted with the empire. - Lao-tzu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab
Hi Stephen, quote who=Stephen Thorne This means two laptops from neighbouring schools who each have their 'own' schoolserver set up as their jabber server will not be able to share any content if they are close enough to receive wireless signal to the internet. Unless they join each others school server for collaboration activities :) that is how I'm planning on linkin gup a few schools here who are hundreds of kilometers apart, but having the teachers know how to connect to the other schoolserver for short activities, and then back to the local server. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ If you have any trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you how it's done. - Scott Adams ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: VideoChat-7 release
Hi all, quote who=Stephen Thorne I'm pleased to announce that I've had a successful Video conversation, and am releasing the .xo file that is the result of this weeks hard labour. I just wanted to say a big thanks to Stephen for all his work. I believe this app will really make a huge difference to people as it has distance education, communication, health and many other wonderful implications. Great work! I'll update the Activities page now. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution. - Bill Hicks ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Peru and Microsoft announcement
Hi all, quote who=Edward Cherlin This would be even more useful as the basis for an article or editorial in one or more of the computer magazines or Web sites, or a fact-filled press release. All of the media people I have talked with say they would like to hear from OLPC. We don't have to frame it as us vs. them. We can just announce the state of current deployments, and discuss plans for future deployments and G1G1, including whatever can be said in public about the Microsoft trials. Everybody wants to know what's up with the Amazon deal, too. I just want to support what Edward is saying and say that OLPC could avoid a lot of misinformation and drama by pre-emptively releasing news about what is going on, which means OLPC wouldn't constantly be on the back foot of having to respond to misinformation. I believe there is an internal newsletter, why doesn't OLPC have a monthly public news feed that is on the main website that talks about stuff happening which would give the world (and community trying to support OLPC) the information we all need :) The amount of times I've had people both from the FOSS community and the general community ask me what is going on is crazy, and damaging. And I'm not even on the inside, I'm just involved with some regional projects! If it is any help, Im sure there are many people in the community who would be happy to help (including me) with something like this, with keeping the general public and community informed in a more public fashion. There is generally a lot of good will towards the project around the world but real and positive public information is key to maintaining that good will. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Videochat - any status?
Hi Guillaume, quote who=Guillaume Desmottes Few months ago I posted this mail [1] explaining the current status of VideoChat. The situation didn't evolve since but I guess it should still be basically usable. [1] http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html Cool, I saw that and linked it to the Activities page but had trouble making it work. I've got someone working on it now and I'll get him to post an update soon. Thanks for that Guillaume! Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ He who loves the world as his body may be entrusted with the empire. - Lao-tzu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Videochat - any status?
Hi SJ, quote who=Samuel Klein Alex looked into this in July, I don't think much has been done with the original videochat code since the last git commit: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/video-chat-activity;a=summary Cool, we'll update the documentation and put up anything new we create to get it working over the coming few days. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ What are we doing today brain? We're taking over the world like we always do. - Pinky and the Brain ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: recognizing a previous connection
Hi all, quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] It is my understanding that deployments with larger schools will be using WAPs and possibly some active antennas (currently a shortage of these). These large schools are more like the G1G1 situation as the pupil moves from one area of the school to another they may connect to another AP. I have informed a person involved with deployment at large schools of this thread (and the other thread). I am hoping they will respond with information about the wireless topography. Actually, you can overcome this in a large school by using a WDS network, or by simply giving all the access points the same name, then as the student moves around the campus they seamlessly switch from AP to AP, as it is effectively the same wireless network. I did this at two schools of ~200-250 students each with a WDS setup (as they didn't have ethernet to the classrooms), and it worked perfectly. If you have ethernet to the classrooms, then APs with the same ESSID would work even better. Details here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Niue#Documentation Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ Jeff: Whatchootalkin'boutwillis? Pia: What's Willis? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Videochat - any status?
Hi all, I have a great need for the video chat application to use for remote speech pathology and other services to remote communities through chat. Does anyone know the status of this project: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat It looks like nothing has happened with it for several months. If there is anyone leading this, could they post a status of the project? Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ I dig your vibe. - Rove McManus to Ice T ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Expected date for 8.2.0
Hi Michael, quote who=Michael Stone The final weeks of September seem more likely to me at the moment. If you want to stay up to date, please watch http://wiki.laptop.org/go/8.2.0 Then you'll receive instant notifications. :) Erk. OK, thanks! I'll be travelling out to do the rollouts on the 22nd September. I guess I'll see how it goes :) Also, will you be able to help test our next release candidate(s)? Of course. I'll put the latest joyride on my devel machine now to test. Cheers, Pia -- Software Freedom Dayhttp://softwarefreedomday.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Expected date for 8.2.0
Hi Martin, quote who=Martin Langhoff On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Pia Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course. I'll put the latest joyride on my devel machine now to test. Go for 8.2-759 - that's pretty close to being a release candidate, and it's fairly good. Two things that hit mainstream usage and are being worked on: bad WPA support, odd Out-of-memory situations - activities get a kill -9 without so much as a pardon me. Cool, will test later today and come back with feedback. Martin, does that mean the XS release is pushed back too? Cheers, Pia -- Software Freedom Dayhttp://softwarefreedomday.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Expected date for 8.2.0
Hi Martin, quote who=Martin Langhoff XS-0.4 is already out and done -- safe and sane to install, and includes a facility that you can use to install the OS updates to the laptops. There is also an extra rpm package (being finished now) that you can use to serve activity updates. Both require a bit of manual intervention to use the local server, but should be a bit easier for large numbers of XOs than a purely USB-based upgrade. Ok, cool. XS-0.5 will be out end of Sept or early days Oct. And 0.5 has the backup stuff built in? That was the functionality I was hoping to get by Sept 17th :( I'll play with the beta stuff and see how it goes by the 22nd when I need to implement. Hve you still got those notes on proxy configuration? I want them :-) Sure. Am updating the server installation wiki page right now. I don't have the server up in front of me but will update the page with further details in the next day or two. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Server_Installation Cheers, Pia -- Software Freedom Dayhttp://softwarefreedomday.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Expected date for 8.2.0
Hi all, Is the expected release date for 8.2.0 still September 17th? I have a trial that depends on this coming out (for various functionality, mainly the software updates and flash) so I just wanted to see whether it was still looking likely to be released then. Thanks all! The joyrides are looking great! Cheers, Pia -- Software Freedom Dayhttp://softwarefreedomday.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Ubuntu XS
Hi all, Firstly thanks for all the feedback. I want to ensure everyone knows this isn't about undermining the great work already done on Fedora, but rather it about I guess scratching an itch that a few people have. I think that where possible we post the existing XS packages so that people can have both rpms and debs at their disposal. I want to stay very true to the goal of the XS project to be 100% automated if necessary, and a robust headless box that the school shouldn't need technical people to maintain in a worst case situation. quote who=Sameer Verma Doing a Debian-based XS came up in one of the server meetings we had a few months ago http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Conf_08_MAR_25_Notes. It kinda came up here as well: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Conf_08_AUG_07_Meeting Thanks Sameer! It looks like a few people have the same thought. A Ubuntu-based XS would be great. We've talked about it at SF State and a couple of other groups around here for reasons of familiarity and it being Debian based, etc. I'd be curious to see what it would take to get the XS on a Ubuntu or Debian base. Cool, well we will let you know! Could you let me know where the actual packages used on the Fedora XS are so I can look at them and port where necessary? I only have the Fedora XS iso at this stage. We are doing some work over the coming week so I'll update the list. At this stage I'm just deconstructing the Fedora XS setup and looking at what we'd like for the Ubuntu one. There are a few interesting feature requests I've had from local trials, including the ability to only allow an XS to talk to approved XOs, to avoid strangers parking outside a school with an XO and interacting with children (worst case scenarios are always the first thing on a Government agenda :), so we're looking at MAC address management on the server potentially. More to come! Cheers, Pia -- Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ There is no darkness but ignorance. - William Shakespeare ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Ubuntu XS
Hi Michael, quote who=Michael Stone Uruguay already uses a Debian-basex XS (which is quite different from Martin's) and which includes some MAC-address filtering technology. (They've also expressed great interest in expanding this technology into a full 802.11i/802.1x/EAP/RADIUS authentication system, which seems like it might be of mutual interest.) Greg Smith and Emiliano Pastorino could probably give you some good introductions if you'd like to try to collaborate with LATU. That would be great! Are they both on this list? Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ Watching television is like taking black spray paint to your third eye. - Bill Hicks ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Hardware certifications
Hi all, I'm getting the XO certified to the Australian power and safety standard (which makes it legal and certifiably safe in Australia, Nz and the Pacific with a little tweaking :)) and I need to know whether the testing page is up to date. Are there any updates on the certifications pending? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Hardware_Testing I specifically need access to the European wireless certification for the XO if it exists. Thanks everyone! Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Colour blindness
Hi Walter, quote who=Walter Bender The most typical color-blindless is a red-green confusion. Black-green should not be an issue as this is contrast in value, not chroma. However, the point is well taken. Some of the on-screen color combinations may well be problematic. The general rule of thumb is to provide at least two Munsell value steps of contrast to ensure enough contrast for legibility. I think we are OK on the keyboard itself in that respect. OK, great. The education specialist said the black on green wasn't a high enough contrast. I'm happy to follow this up with the local vision and accessibility authority if that would be useful. By the way, lovely to meet you :) Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ There is no darkness but ignorance. - William Shakespeare ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Hi all, quote who=John Watlington I'm glad you found a solution. Can you provide more information (such as exactly what model of AP are you using ? Which versions of firmware worked/didn't work.) Just wanted to give everyone an update. I bought a DLink DWL-2100AP which is what David and Ian are trying to implement for their XO rollouts. We found that we could not get DHCP working on the AP at all for either an XO or for an IBM laptop running Ubuntu. We tried several different firmware versions (although the AP is seemingly locked to European firmware and we can't use the US ones) and the only way we could use it was as an AP that forwards DHCP requests to the network. We've spent about 4 hours today trying to troubleshoot the issues and I am unfortunately going to have to recommend that the APs be plugged into a network which plugs into an XS server for DHCP to get the XOs connected. David, where you can't have an XS server you could always buy a different AP or other DHCP allocation device per site for DHCP resolution as these APs seem to be inappropriate for the job (at least the Australian ones). Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ I dig your vibe. - Rove McManus to Ice T ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Hi all, quote who=John Watlington If one pulls the cable out on the LAN side of the AP the XOs cease to share and quickly drop out and look for the mesh. So, this duplicated the problem I described. More and more interesting. Have you been able to follow up on what Pia Waugh found ? Does it seem relevant ? I am purchasing one of the exact same APs today to figure it out and will post to the list what I find and whether the fix I found works. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J. R. R. Tolkien ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Usage monitoring: any experience?
Hi there, quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Our grassroot at OLPC France made a small deployment lately in a school (so far with one XO, no more) and we would like to monitor the activity of the users (activities, connections, load, etc.) as per day, week, etc. We have a similar problem in OLPC Australia, and we are planning on using the backup function of the server to monitor the journals. This way you'll get an overview of all the users activity. We were planning on either finding existing efforts or writing some sort of monitoring of the journals so teachers can keep an eye on the student activities. It turns out it will also be really useful for monitoring which applications are most popular, how they are used, etc, etc. OLPC France may contribute to such an activity if there is sufficient interest among the other developers. It'll be good to see if others respond, but regardless OLPC Australia would also like to help with this project. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ He who loves the world as his body may be entrusted with the empire. - Lao-tzu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Hi David, quote who=David Leeming To see if we could duplicate our problem, we tried with another AP: We have a VSAT set up near the village where we are deploying a trial with 50 children in PNG. It has a reliable wireless AP and you can associate both grown up laptops and XOs no problems. The XOs will then see the Internet and also other XOs and the activities will share OK. This AP has a DHCP server on the wireless side. In fact, there is no other as the AP connects straight to the VSAT modem, which does not have DHCP set up, via a switch. If one pulls the cable out on the LAN side of the AP the XOs cease to share and quickly drop out and look for the mesh. So, this duplicated the problem I described. I just found this which might help. Similar problem with that AP. Might help. http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=223860 I am now told that a jabber service is needed to keep the XOs interested and reliably collaborating, that maybe is the cause? Do you concur? That shouldn't impact them getting a DHCP address though, I'm not sure. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather. - Bill Hicks ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method
Hi, quote who=Pia Waugh I just found this which might help. Similar problem with that AP. Might help. http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=223860 t works!!! I took a risk and went backwards in the firmware. First I tried 2.10, which appeared to be just about the same as the mysterious shipping firmware (2.11) that is not on their website. It is a slightly different use case but sounds like something to try. Cheers, Pia -- OLPC Australia http://olpc.org.au/ Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Open Source Industry Australia http://osia.net.au/ Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ There is no darkness but ignorance. - William Shakespeare ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
