Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/01/2010 07:22 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:
 Hi,

Hi Daniel,

first of all - thanks for your excellent work!

 After seeing the community help significantly with F11-on-XO
 development, I'm wondering if we can do something similar for a future
 release. So, I've taken the first few steps in getting OLPC's
 technologies rebased on Fedora 14 and Linux v2.6.35.

 The result has lots of problems, but I figure that publishing the work
 so far is the first step in getting things fixed.

 Things are in such an early stage that I'm labelling this as a
 developers-only release. To name a few: Sugar crashes all the time,
 the XO-1.5 camera doesn't work, there are some funky graphics bugs on
 XO-1, no power management, DCON doesn't work right on either laptop,
 desktop switching lands you at a blank screen.

 For now, please don't file bugs unless you include patches. And, to
 take 1 bite at a time out of this huge task, lets ignore all but the
 biggest sugar issues for now because there is plenty of OS work to be
 done first. (or alternatively lets take sugar issues directly to SL
 trac)

 And the links:
 2.6.35 kernel is in git://dev.laptop.org/olpc-2.6 branch olpc-2.6.35
 OS build is done from 'f14' branch of olpc-os-builder
 First released images are at http://build.laptop.org/F14/os1/
 Trac is at http://dev.laptop.org/milestone/F14 (basically my immediate
 TODO), please don't file tickets unless you include patches in these
 early days

 Note: I haven't tested those exact images (since Chris @ OLPC built
 them), so boot-testing them can be the first task for someone. I have
 been working from the same codebases making local images successfully,
 so they will probably work (to the extent that things are working).

The XO-1.0 build does boot fine here. After installing the latest sugar 
package [1] I get quite good results. This is very promising. Yay!!!

The XO-1.5 build does not boot for me, I get the following after 
flashing the image:

Boot device: /wlan Argumenst:
Scan for: OLPCOFW not found
Scan for: school-mesh-0 not found
Scan for: school-mesh-1 not found
Scan for: school-mesh-2 not found
buf...@ff83b080:0:
Can't open boot device

Anyone else booted the XO-1.5 image already?

Regards,
Simon

[1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=193501

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-11 Thread Jon Nettleton
 The XO-1.5 build does not boot for me, I get the following after
 flashing the image:

 Boot device: /wlan Argumenst:
 Scan for: OLPCOFW not found
 Scan for: school-mesh-0 not found
 Scan for: school-mesh-1 not found
 Scan for: school-mesh-2 not found
 buf...@ff83b080:0:
 Can't open boot device

 Anyone else booted the XO-1.5 image already?

I have booted the XO-1.5 image but did not use OFW to install it.
Since I am running it from an SDHC card I manually extracted the
filesystems onto the card.  I have an updated kernel rpm that fixes a
few of initial bugs that needed squashing with the XO 1.5.  I can post
that if people want to do extended testing.

That error looks like OFW is not finding a bootable device.  What
output do you get if you do dir int:\boot\ from the OFW prompt?

-Jon
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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/11/2010 04:20 PM, Jon Nettleton wrote:
 The XO-1.5 build does not boot for me, I get the following after
 flashing the image:

 Boot device: /wlan Argumenst:
 Scan for: OLPCOFW not found
 Scan for: school-mesh-0 not found
 Scan for: school-mesh-1 not found
 Scan for: school-mesh-2 not found
 buf...@ff83b080:0:
 Can't open boot device

 Anyone else booted the XO-1.5 image already?

 I have booted the XO-1.5 image but did not use OFW to install it.
 Since I am running it from an SDHC card I manually extracted the
 filesystems onto the card.  I have an updated kernel rpm that fixes a
 few of initial bugs that needed squashing with the XO 1.5.  I can post
 that if people want to do extended testing.

Sure! Keep it rolling :)

 That error looks like OFW is not finding a bootable device.  What
 output do you get if you do dir int:\boot\ from the OFW prompt?

 -Jon

Thanks Jon for following up and sharing the command. It helped to find 
out that the bootfw package was missing. Daniel will do a new build.

Regards,
Simon


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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/02/2010 07:43 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
 In Terminal, cursor movement keys don't work.  [I also saw interference
 to Terminal (white background) from dmesg? lines (black background),
 after each boot -- but these would go away if I just restarted Sugar.]

 This could be X using the xfree86 keycodes instead of the evdev ones.
 What does setxkbmap -v say?

0 [olpc]# setxkbmap -v
Trying to build keymap using the following components:
keycodes:   evdev+aliases(qwerty)
types:  complete
compat: complete
symbols:pc+us(olpc)+inet(evdev)+terminate(ctrl_alt_bksp)
geometry:   pc(pc104)
0 [olpc]#

 By the way, in Terminal 'vi' appears to be placing the text it shows
 onto a NON-EMPTY screen - there is present background text from what had
 in the past been shown on the Terminal screen.  If I want to look at
 something, I now use 'cat' (which has blank background) instead of 'vi'.

 Among the non-starters were Chat and TamTam.

 Could you determine why?

 Activity output logs attached.
 Chat fails because no attribute _pservice.

This has been fixed in git:

http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/chat/repos/mainline/commits/997ca380edbc59bbae1da9950369d3f50ffa6991

Aleksey will do a new release.

Regards,
Simon

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-11 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
 Chat fails because no attribute _pservice.
 
 This has been fixed in git:
 
 http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/chat/repos/mainline/commits/997ca380edbc59bbae1da9950369d3f50ffa6991

With that change applied on an XO-1 system to the Chat-66 on os1, I was
able to collaborate with an XO-1 system running Chat-66 on os604dx, plus
an XO-1 system running Chat-65 on os856, plus an XO-1 system running
Chat-48 on build 802 -- that's a four-way-chat collaboration, using
regular mesh, NOT ad-hoc.  [By the way, Chat on the os604dx system still
worked, even after I applied the pippy_apps.py fix there, as well.]

mikus

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-11 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 16:47 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
 With that change applied on an XO-1 system to the Chat-66 on os1, I was
 able to collaborate with an XO-1 system running Chat-66 on os604dx, plus
 an XO-1 system running Chat-65 on os856, plus an XO-1 system running
 Chat-48 on build 802 -- that's a four-way-chat collaboration, using
 regular mesh, NOT ad-hoc.  [By the way, Chat on the os604dx system still
 worked, even after I applied the pippy_apps.py fix there, as well.]

Out of curiosity... what's build os604dx? :-)

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-11 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
 Out of curiosity... what's build os604dx?

I meant os406dx.  I'm getting frequent senior moments - and more and
more often I don't spot that what I've actually typed is not what I
should have typed.

mikus

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-06 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 El Sun, 05-09-2010 a las 00:53 +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com escribió:

 Well I am for SoaS related things which while isn't XO hardware
 related it does affect everything further up the stack does that
 not count :-(

 Such parallel efforts are indeed mutually beneficial.

 Dextrose also enjoyed the pioneering packaging and testing effort
 carried on on 0.88 by the SoaS folks, plus the platform stabilization
 work done by dsd, pgf and cjb.

 Isn't this the normal thing in FLOSS development?


 No point as its directly Fedora related but if people could add
 positive karma to this it would be fixed quicker, else in about 4-5
 days it will head to F-14 stable.
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-python2-desktop-2.31.1-5.fc14

 Done, but I'm afraid I had to give it negative karma:

Looking at the upstream GIT of evince it looks like this is another of
the apis that have been deprecated upstream and Read needs to be
updated to fix the issue

http://git.gnome.org/browse/evince/diff/libdocument/ev-selection.h?id=18d2af9bce80392407fae997c8dfa029f5a54123

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Mon, 06-09-2010 a las 11:49 +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com escribió:
  Done, but I'm afraid I had to give it negative karma:
 
 Looking at the upstream GIT of evince it looks like this is another of
 the apis that have been deprecated upstream and Read needs to be
 updated to fix the issue
 
 http://git.gnome.org/browse/evince/diff/libdocument/ev-selection.h?id=18d2af9bce80392407fae997c8dfa029f5a54123

To keep the testing cycle shorter, couldn't you just build the rpms
locally and test them once on your system before pushing them to bodhi?

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-06 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 El Mon, 06-09-2010 a las 11:49 +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com escribió:
  Done, but I'm afraid I had to give it negative karma:

 Looking at the upstream GIT of evince it looks like this is another of
 the apis that have been deprecated upstream and Read needs to be
 updated to fix the issue

 http://git.gnome.org/browse/evince/diff/libdocument/ev-selection.h?id=18d2af9bce80392407fae997c8dfa029f5a54123

 To keep the testing cycle shorter, couldn't you just build the rpms
 locally and test them once on your system before pushing them to bodhi?

I don't maintain that package. I also don't maintain Read. The
gnome-python2 package I did update was just re-enabling the upstream.
In that regard i did test the gnome-python2 package but but not
against Read as where I was in the world at the time I didn't have a
working F-14 system to hand with X working so its pretty hard to. At
the moment I've worked every day in the last month and I've being
travelling around Europe at least once a week so I'm battling to have
time to do the basic stuff and I didn't believe I'm the only
person in the sugar testing world.

The problem isn't evince or gnome-python2 but that Read needs to be
updated again for the new upstream evince api changes (again). Looking
in Read git the last tagged release is Read 79 yet on a.sl.o is Read
86. I'm not sure what the rest of the changes are or which version is
correct so going on the official Read 79 release it wouldn't work any
way.

Peter
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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On 6 September 2010 15:59, pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 The problem isn't evince or gnome-python2 but that Read needs to be
 updated again for the new upstream evince api changes (again).

You're right in that Read changes are needed, but there is already a
git tree floating around with such changes (that still need a bit of
work).

However the problem that Bernie pointed out is different, and will
continue to occur even after updating Read. The file installed by
gnome-python2-evince is broken. that is, the following simple command
will fail: python -c 'import evince'
It is probably a bug in the upstream code.

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-06 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Mon, 06-09-2010 a las 22:59 +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com escribió:
 I don't maintain that package. I also don't maintain Read. The
 gnome-python2 package I did update was just re-enabling the upstream.
 In that regard i did test the gnome-python2 package but but not
 against Read as where I was in the world at the time I didn't have a
 working F-14 system to hand with X working so its pretty hard to. At
 the moment I've worked every day in the last month and I've being
 travelling around Europe at least once a week so I'm battling to have
 time to do the basic stuff and I didn't believe I'm the only
 person in the sugar testing world.

Sorry, didn't mean to sound like I did not appreciate your packaging
work. Let me know how I could help, besides testing (although I'm also
spreading myself very thin, as you know).


 The problem isn't evince or gnome-python2 but that Read needs to be
 updated again for the new upstream evince api changes (again). Looking
 in Read git the last tagged release is Read 79 yet on a.sl.o is Read
 86. I'm not sure what the rest of the changes are or which version is
 correct so going on the official Read 79 release it wouldn't work any
 way.

Sayamindu may know.

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-05 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sun, 05-09-2010 a las 00:53 +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com escribió:

 Well I am for SoaS related things which while isn't XO hardware
 related it does affect everything further up the stack does that
 not count :-(

Such parallel efforts are indeed mutually beneficial.

Dextrose also enjoyed the pioneering packaging and testing effort
carried on on 0.88 by the SoaS folks, plus the platform stabilization
work done by dsd, pgf and cjb.

Isn't this the normal thing in FLOSS development?


 No point as its directly Fedora related but if people could add
 positive karma to this it would be fixed quicker, else in about 4-5
 days it will head to F-14 stable.
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-python2-desktop-2.31.1-5.fc14

Done, but I'm afraid I had to give it negative karma:

---cut---
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/sugar-activity, line 21, in module
main.main()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py, line 115, in 
main
module = __import__(module_name)
  File /home/bernie/Activities/Read.activity/readactivity.py, line 25, in 
module
import evince
ImportError: /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0/evince.so: undefined 
symbol: ev_selection_get_selection_map
Exited with status 1, pid 5410 data (None, open file 'fdopen', mode 'w' at 
0x261a150, 'c9a33f84910d7499496f16cb75f4a930a1f234d4')
---cut---

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-04 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
 For now, please don't file bugs unless you include patches.

I can understand not wanting bug reports against items which OLPC/Sugar
are still in the process of changing.  But why defer reporting problems
which might not be addressed unless there was a report ?

For instance, Read-87 fails to launch on XO-1 os1 (F14) when it tries to
 'import evince'.  Though the necessary gnome-python2-evince package was
not included in the os1 build, when I manually install that package from
the yum Fedora-14 repositories, the import statement still fails --
apparently because the evince.so module provided by the current
Fedora-14 package has internal inconsistencies.  I myself do not have a
Python test case which does 'import evince' - nor do I have a patch -
but perhaps the maintainers of the Read Activity might want to discuss
this situation with the maintainers of Python on Fedora 14.

mikus

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/sugar-activity, line 21, in module
main.main()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py, line 115, in main
module = __import__(module_name)
  File /home/olpc/Activities/Read.activity/readactivity.py, line 25, in module
import evince
ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0/evince.so: undefined symbol: ev_selection_get_selection_map
1283617092.832518 DEBUG root: _cleanup_temp_files
Exited with status 1, pid 1919 data (None, open file 'fdopen', mode 'w' at 0x94ff5f8, 'cc1399fc91616fa81d576acdc0389304f4e8bce9')
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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-04 Thread David Farning
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote:
 For now, please don't file bugs unless you include patches.

 I can understand not wanting bug reports against items which OLPC/Sugar
 are still in the process of changing.  But why defer reporting problems
 which might not be addressed unless there was a report ?

Just to take a stab at answer Because Daniel is tired.  He has
been on the road for months/years solving other peoples problems.  Now
he is spending some time (I hesitate to call it 'free' time) working
on a project which is personally interesting while generously
sharing it with the world.

If anyone wants to set up a formal bug tracker... and work on those
bugs I am sure Daniel would be happy to work _with_ them.  But for
now, he has enough on his hands.

Based on his track record for getting things done, I am inclined to
give Daniel the benefit of the doubt that what he is doing will become
the basis of a future software release!

david

 For instance, Read-87 fails to launch on XO-1 os1 (F14) when it tries to
  'import evince'.  Though the necessary gnome-python2-evince package was
 not included in the os1 build, when I manually install that package from
 the yum Fedora-14 repositories, the import statement still fails --
 apparently because the evince.so module provided by the current
 Fedora-14 package has internal inconsistencies.  I myself do not have a
 Python test case which does 'import evince' - nor do I have a patch -
 but perhaps the maintainers of the Read Activity might want to discuss
 this situation with the maintainers of Python on Fedora 14.

 mikus


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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-04 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
 But why defer reporting problems
 which might not be addressed unless there was a report ?
 
 Just to take a stab at answer Because Daniel is tired.

Are other developers really so tied up that THEY can't look at bug
reports ?  Why would Daniel need to be involved when (for instance) an
Activity had a problem ?  [I thought others, not Daniel, were doing the
Activities.]

Not only does Daniel's new release use F14 -- it is the *first* release
(I know of) with Sugar-0.89 that can install onto the jffs2 in an XO-1.
 I thought SugarLabs might be interested, ahead of releasing 0.90, how
it would run on the XO -- I would think the sooner 0.90-precursor bugs
were  reported, the greater the chance of those bugs being addressed.

mikus

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-04 Thread Daniel Drake
On 4 September 2010 03:24, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote:
 For now, please don't file bugs unless you include patches.

 I can understand not wanting bug reports against items which OLPC/Sugar
 are still in the process of changing.  But why defer reporting problems
 which might not be addressed unless there was a report ?

Because nobody other than me is fixing the problems right now, and the
bugs will go stale. And if someone is available to fix bugs, you only
have to spend 5 minutes working with the image to encounter several of
them. A bug tracker is needless overhead for such early and loose
development.

This of course will change with time, if the project continues to progress.

 For instance, Read-87 fails to launch on XO-1 os1 (F14) when it tries to
  'import evince'.  Though the necessary gnome-python2-evince package was
 not included in the os1 build, when I manually install that package from
 the yum Fedora-14 repositories, the import statement still fails --
 apparently because the evince.so module provided by the current
 Fedora-14 package has internal inconsistencies.  I myself do not have a
 Python test case which does 'import evince' - nor do I have a patch -
 but perhaps the maintainers of the Read Activity might want to discuss
 this situation with the maintainers of Python on Fedora 14.

As this is a topic purely related to Sugar you are welcome to file a
bug on the SL bug tracker, or start a discussion on the sugar mailing
list.

I should also clarify that if you have an easy solution for a bug
(such as: add package XYZ) you are welcome to file a bug - by only
file bugs with patches I guess I meant only file bugs with patches
or simple solutions

I'm just trying to focus and organize the OS-level work, and to avoid
wasting time on bug tracking in this early stage. Thanks for working
with me on this...

Daniel
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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-04 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Mikus,

On 4 Sep 2010, at 10:24, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote:
 
 For instance, Read-87 fails to launch on XO-1 os1 (F14) when it tries to
 'import evince'.  Though the necessary gnome-python2-evince package was
 not included in the os1 build, when I manually install that package from
 the yum Fedora-14 repositories, the import statement still fails --
 apparently because the evince.so module provided by the current
 Fedora-14 package has internal inconsistencies.  I myself do not have a
 Python test case which does 'import evince' - nor do I have a patch -
 but perhaps the maintainers of the Read Activity might want to discuss
 this situation with the maintainers of Python on Fedora 14.

FWIW, long story, and much traffic about this. The evince API has radically 
changed. Read was/is broken on distros that shipped the new evince. Lucian very 
kindly took some time out from his Browse/Surf web kit work to update Read (he 
had been already working with new evince for PDF support). I think the only 
feature regression was that of Epub support (works, but the toolbars have been 
disabled until it's also hooked into the new API — on my todo but quite far 
down and quite complicated for me).

... and just to complicate matters the git rep mainline (which Lucian updated 
to support the new evince) is at version 79 — no idea where 87 came from, looks 
like releases have been made from some other rep/branch, so am not sure what 
other changes happened 78 - 87, yes it's a mess :-(

When I last tested, the current version in git is good for F14 (excluding the 
above Epub UI regression). 

Regards,
--Gary 

 mikus
 
 Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/sugar-activity, line 21, 
 in main.main() File 
 /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py, line 115, in main 
 module = __import__(module_name) File 
 /home/olpc/Activities/Read.activity/readactivity.py, line 25, in import 
 evince ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0/evince.so: 
 undefined symbol: ev_selection_get_selection_map 1283617092.832518 DEBUG 
 root: _cleanup_temp_files Exited with status 1, pid 1919 data (None, ', mode 
 'w' at 0x94ff5f8, 'cc1399fc91616fa81d576acdc0389304f4e8bce9')
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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-04 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
 For instance, Read-87 fails to launch on XO-1 os1 (F14) when it tries to
  'import evince'.  Though the necessary gnome-python2-evince package was
 not included in the os1 build, when I manually install that package from
 the yum Fedora-14 repositories, the import statement still fails --
 apparently because the evince.so module provided by the current
 Fedora-14 package has internal inconsistencies.  I myself do not have a
 Python test case which does 'import evince' - nor do I have a patch -
 but perhaps the maintainers of the Read Activity might want to discuss
 this situation with the maintainers of Python on Fedora 14.
 
 As this is a topic purely related to Sugar you are welcome to file a
 bug on the SL bug tracker, or start a discussion on the sugar mailing
 list.

Daniel - I deliberately posted to fedora-olpc-list with a
hard-to-pin-down situation (in hopes that someone other than you would
read it).  The error in this case (shown in the log attached to my post)
is ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gtk-2.0/evince.so:
undefined symbol: ev_selection_get_selection_map.

I expect that Sugar's invocation ('import evince') has not changed since
F11, where it works.  But the called 'evince.so' module is smaller in
F11 (and has other install dependencies), whereas it has grown to three
times that size in F14.  Is it kosher to file a bug against Sugar
because something *called* by Sugar has (in the version fetched by 'yum'
when running build os1) a problem in F14 ?   I don't know the answer.


 nobody other than me is fixing the problems right now

Bummer.  I do think that problems with the 'evince.so' that came from an
F14 yum repository ought to be off your radar.


 I'm just trying to focus and organize the OS-level work, and to avoid
 wasting time on bug tracking in this early stage.

My question assumed that if a symptom shows up in 'Object Chooser' in
0.90 (which the XO-1 installs with F14), then bug tracking would not
need to be performed SEPARATELY for F14 than the bug tracking already
being done for 0.84 (which is included in, say, Milestone 10.0.3).

If nobody other than you looks at things uncovered in os1 but unrelated
to construction of an F14 build that will run on the XO -- then I
guess I would describe their attitude as problems are real only if they
show up in 'officially released' builds.   Oh well.

mikus


p.s.  My most obvious problem at first with os1 was the inability to use
the keyboard arrow keys in 'vi' in Terminal (I switched to using the
hjkl keys instead);  plus the presence of garbage text in the background
of the 'vi' screen.  Also, I couldn't get to a text console.

Eventually, I went into 'My Settings' - 'Keyboard' and specified a more
appropriate keyboard model.  That seemed to activate the ctl-alt-Fn
sequence that allows me to get into a text console -- and now in a text
console 'vi' works properly with os1.
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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-04 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote:
 For now, please don't file bugs unless you include patches.

 I can understand not wanting bug reports against items which OLPC/Sugar
 are still in the process of changing.  But why defer reporting problems
 which might not be addressed unless there was a report ?

 For instance, Read-87 fails to launch on XO-1 os1 (F14) when it tries to
  'import evince'.  Though the necessary gnome-python2-evince package was
 not included in the os1 build, when I manually install that package from
 the yum Fedora-14 repositories, the import statement still fails --
 apparently because the evince.so module provided by the current
 Fedora-14 package has internal inconsistencies.  I myself do not have a
 Python test case which does 'import evince' - nor do I have a patch -
 but perhaps the maintainers of the Read Activity might want to discuss
 this situation with the maintainers of Python on Fedora 14.

This is a known problem with Read at the moment. I fixed the package
the other day and its filtering through the updates-testing. There's a
number of fairly large number of issues with Fedora 14 at the moment
due to the new systemd and python 2.7 not to mention some quite big
gnome related changes. We're preparing the SoaS 4 release based on
this as well so the SoaS team are aware of a number of issues and
we're working as quickly as possible to fix them (but the 3 people in
the team are also very busy with other life related things as well)
and this will benefit this release as well because both teams can work
towards the same goal.

Regards,
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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-04 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 On 4 September 2010 03:24, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote:
 For now, please don't file bugs unless you include patches.

 I can understand not wanting bug reports against items which OLPC/Sugar
 are still in the process of changing.  But why defer reporting problems
 which might not be addressed unless there was a report ?

 Because nobody other than me is fixing the problems right now, and the
 bugs will go stale. And if someone is available to fix bugs, you only
 have to spend 5 minutes working with the image to encounter several of
 them. A bug tracker is needless overhead for such early and loose
 development.

Well I am for SoaS related things which while isn't XO hardware
related it does affect everything further up the stack does that
not count :-(

 This of course will change with time, if the project continues to progress.

 For instance, Read-87 fails to launch on XO-1 os1 (F14) when it tries to
  'import evince'.  Though the necessary gnome-python2-evince package was
 not included in the os1 build, when I manually install that package from
 the yum Fedora-14 repositories, the import statement still fails --
 apparently because the evince.so module provided by the current
 Fedora-14 package has internal inconsistencies.  I myself do not have a
 Python test case which does 'import evince' - nor do I have a patch -
 but perhaps the maintainers of the Read Activity might want to discuss
 this situation with the maintainers of Python on Fedora 14.

 As this is a topic purely related to Sugar you are welcome to file a
 bug on the SL bug tracker, or start a discussion on the sugar mailing
 list.

No point as its directly Fedora related but if people could add
positive karma to this it would be fixed quicker, else in about 4-5
days it will head to F-14 stable.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gnome-python2-desktop-2.31.1-5.fc14

 I should also clarify that if you have an easy solution for a bug
 (such as: add package XYZ) you are welcome to file a bug - by only
 file bugs with patches I guess I meant only file bugs with patches
 or simple solutions

 I'm just trying to focus and organize the OS-level work, and to avoid
 wasting time on bug tracking in this early stage. Thanks for working
 with me on this...

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 01-09-2010 a las 07:57 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs escribió:
  the XO-1.5 camera doesn't work, there are some funky graphics bugs on
  XO-1, no power management, DCON doesn't work right on either laptop,
  desktop switching lands you at a blank screen.
  
  I recommend rebasing on the geode driver 2.11.9, which was just released
  by upstream. I've been testing it in Dextrose for about 3 weeks: it
  fixes all the known rendering bugs and has no regressions.
 
 The XO-1 os1 build already has  xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14.olpc1

This package is not in Fedora's git, though. I'll ask Dave Arlie if it's
ok with him to update the package. I'm sure he'll be glad to hand-off
this driver to someone who can actually test it.

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 01-09-2010 a las 05:03 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs escribió:
 In Terminal, cursor movement keys don't work.  [I also saw interference
 to Terminal (white background) from dmesg? lines (black background),
 after each boot -- but these would go away if I just restarted Sugar.]

This could be X using the xfree86 keycodes instead of the evdev ones.
What does setxkbmap -v say?


 Could not use text console (alt-ctl-Fn combo appears to be ignored).

Same XKB misconfiguration, prolly.


 Among the non-starters were Chat and TamTam.

Could you determine why? They do work with Sugar 0.88 on F11. So
probably we have ABI issues in Fedora 14.

(suppressed rant about Sugar not using a proper packaging system)


 Thank you muchly for your great leap forward,  mikus

Thank you very much for all the testing you've been doing.

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-02 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
 In Terminal, cursor movement keys don't work.  [I also saw interference
 to Terminal (white background) from dmesg? lines (black background),
 after each boot -- but these would go away if I just restarted Sugar.]
 
 This could be X using the xfree86 keycodes instead of the evdev ones.
 What does setxkbmap -v say?

  0 [olpc]# setxkbmap -v
  Trying to build keymap using the following components:
  keycodes:   evdev+aliases(qwerty)
  types:  complete
  compat: complete
  symbols:pc+us(olpc)+inet(evdev)+terminate(ctrl_alt_bksp)
  geometry:   pc(pc104)
  0 [olpc]#

By the way, in Terminal 'vi' appears to be placing the text it shows
onto a NON-EMPTY screen - there is present background text from what had
in the past been shown on the Terminal screen.  If I want to look at
something, I now use 'cat' (which has blank background) instead of 'vi'.

 Among the non-starters were Chat and TamTam.
 
 Could you determine why?

Activity output logs attached.
Chat fails because no attribute _pservice.
TamTam (all) crash.  (shell.log excerpt attached)  'dmesg' says:
 TamTamMini 20c[1374]: segfault at b4bcd0 ip b665c4c2 sp bffa6250 error 7
 in aclient.so[b6659000+b000]

mikus


p.s.  I don't know if this is from my own customization, or if it came
in the build -- but now Telepathy uses accounts within salut -- with
the consequence that sometimes other systems are told the account's
nickname for the system, instead of the nickname I specified to Sugar.

** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (HippoCanvasBox)
1283506233.148647 DEBUG root: Calling GetActivity on /org/freedesktop/Telepathy/Account/salut/local_xmpp/account0
1283506233.218902 DEBUG root: There's no shared activity with the id afab4a658c90608fdbbe67141afecc6572021389
1283506233.220666 DEBUG root: *** Act afab4a658c90608fdbbe67141afecc6572021389, mesh instance None, scope private
1283506233.11 DEBUG root: Creating a jobject.
1283506233.229101 DEBUG root: datastore.write
1283506233.320121 DEBUG root: Written object 050759b1-6189-4b6a-ae41-bd755eb47957 to the datastore.
1283506234.155120 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1283506234.187794 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/sugar-activity, line 21, in module
main.main()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py, line 151, in main
create_activity_instance(activity_constructor, activity_handle)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py, line 37, in create_activity_instance
activity = constructor(handle)
  File /home/olpc/Activities/Chat.activity/pippy_app.py, line 80, in __init__
self.owner = self._pservice.get_owner()
AttributeError: 'Chat' object has no attribute '_pservice'
1283506234.211332 DEBUG root: _cleanup_temp_files
Exited with status 1, pid 1363 data (None, open file 'fdopen', mode 'w' at 0xaaf2498, 'afab4a658c90608fdbbe67141afecc6572021389')
** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (HippoCanvasBox)
1283506334.676009 DEBUG root: Debug Level 0
1283506334.678066 DEBUG root: INFO: loaded TAMTAM_ROOT=/home/olpc/Activities/TamTamMini.activity
1283506335.281234 DEBUG root: skip /home/olpc/Activities/TamTamMini.activity/common/Util/Clooper/linux32_508 blobs: libcsound.so.5.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
1283506336.042935 DEBUG root: use /home/olpc/Activities/TamTamMini.activity/common/Util/Clooper/linux32_510 blobs
1283506339.601604 DEBUG root: Calling GetActivity on /org/freedesktop/Telepathy/Account/salut/local_xmpp/account0
1283506339.641105 DEBUG root: There's no shared activity with the id 20cf741a8c22ea39bbad5c09709214b01010bfb7
1283506339.642871 DEBUG root: *** Act 20cf741a8c22ea39bbad5c09709214b01010bfb7, mesh instance None, scope private
1283506339.644349 DEBUG root: Creating a jobject.
1283506339.651074 DEBUG root: datastore.write
1283506339.714733 DEBUG root: Written object b9045a30-f5db-4f51-8867-a66ad8e2bdb9 to the datastore.
1283506340.288413 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1283506340.348108 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
Logging disabled on purpose
Terminated by signal 11, pid 1374 data (None, open file 'fdopen', mode 'w' at 0xa10f758, '20cf741a8c22ea39bbad5c09709214b01010bfb7')
1283506301.850570 DEBUG root: _key_pressed_cb: 69 0 F3
1283506301.863164 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1283506301.865592 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1283506301.895693 DEBUG root: new zoom level: 2
/usr/bin/sugar-session:264: GtkWarning: Failed to set text from markup due to error parsing markup: Error on line 1: Entity did not end with a semicolon; most likely you used an ampersand character without intending to start an entity - escape ampersand as amp;
  gtk.main()
1283506314.953176 DEBUG root: Activity afab4a658c90608fdbbe67141afecc6572021389 has been closed already.
1283506328.565523 DEBUG 

Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-02 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Disclaimer:  I am not asking for help;  I am just sharing my experience.

I noticed - perhaps because of the Sugar 0.90 'Remove_Presence_Service'
feature - THREE separate icons in F14 Neighborhood for one-and-the-same
XO-1 system (which runs os852).  Admittedly, that system can be
simultaneously accessed from the F14 system via TWO different IP
addresses (192.168.1.16 on ethernet, plus 169.254.8.104 on mesh) -- but
three separate Neighborhood icons for that single system seem excessive.

 For now, please don't file bugs unless you include patches.

I'll wait until bugs without patches are acceptable.  And I need to be
able to recreate the situation - I don't know how easy that will be.

mikus



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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Thu, 02-09-2010 a las 01:07 +0200, Bernie Innocenti escribió:

  rpm -Uvh 
 http://download.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/testing/dxo2/rpms/i386/os/xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14.i586.rpm

The .fc14 is my mistake, this package is actually built for Fedora 11.

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 El Thu, 02-09-2010 a las 01:07 +0200, Bernie Innocenti escribió:

  rpm -Uvh 
 http://download.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/testing/dxo2/rpms/i386/os/xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14.i586.rpm

 The .fc14 is my mistake, this package is actually built for Fedora 11.

Ah! I was wondering about that!

cheers,


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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
Hey Daniel,

Yippee! I suspect the sugar starting issues is the same one we're
seeing in SoaS for F-14. I'm very busy until Sunday but i hope to have
at least some time to be able to look at that problem and help you out
where possibly as no doubt both SoaS and the builds for the XO will
share a lot of common problems.

With the kernel nearing a recent release is there any plans to get a
chunk of the kernel patches upstream to ease on going maintenance?

As always ping me if there's anywhere specific I can be of assistance
in upstream Fedora.

Peter

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 Hi,

 After seeing the community help significantly with F11-on-XO
 development, I'm wondering if we can do something similar for a future
 release. So, I've taken the first few steps in getting OLPC's
 technologies rebased on Fedora 14 and Linux v2.6.35.

 The result has lots of problems, but I figure that publishing the work
 so far is the first step in getting things fixed.

 Things are in such an early stage that I'm labelling this as a
 developers-only release. To name a few: Sugar crashes all the time,
 the XO-1.5 camera doesn't work, there are some funky graphics bugs on
 XO-1, no power management, DCON doesn't work right on either laptop,
 desktop switching lands you at a blank screen.

 For now, please don't file bugs unless you include patches. And, to
 take 1 bite at a time out of this huge task, lets ignore all but the
 biggest sugar issues for now because there is plenty of OS work to be
 done first. (or alternatively lets take sugar issues directly to SL
 trac)

 And the links:
 2.6.35 kernel is in git://dev.laptop.org/olpc-2.6 branch olpc-2.6.35
 OS build is done from 'f14' branch of olpc-os-builder
 First released images are at http://build.laptop.org/F14/os1/
 Trac is at http://dev.laptop.org/milestone/F14 (basically my immediate
 TODO), please don't file tickets unless you include patches in these
 early days

 Note: I haven't tested those exact images (since Chris @ OLPC built
 them), so boot-testing them can be the first task for someone. I have
 been working from the same codebases making local images successfully,
 so they will probably work (to the extent that things are working).

 At this point this is all something put together by me in my spare
 time. It's not known if or when OLPC would start working on an
 official release from these efforts. But I figure that if we get
 things properly stabilized and all the work is done cleanly, we'll
 find one way or another to get this in the hands of deployments.

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
This is awesome news, kudos to Daniel.

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 08:49, pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Daniel,

 Yippee! I suspect the sugar starting issues is the same one we're
 seeing in SoaS for F-14.

Hmm, I had some trouble on mainstream F-14 booting both Sugar and
GNOME (actually, even logging into the console was failing) but
booting with enforce=0 fixed it until an update fixed it for good.

Is it something different?

At this point I'm booting into Sugar from gdm without problems.

Regards,

Tomeu

 I'm very busy until Sunday but i hope to have
 at least some time to be able to look at that problem and help you out
 where possibly as no doubt both SoaS and the builds for the XO will
 share a lot of common problems.

 With the kernel nearing a recent release is there any plans to get a
 chunk of the kernel patches upstream to ease on going maintenance?

 As always ping me if there's anywhere specific I can be of assistance
 in upstream Fedora.

 Peter

 On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 Hi,

 After seeing the community help significantly with F11-on-XO
 development, I'm wondering if we can do something similar for a future
 release. So, I've taken the first few steps in getting OLPC's
 technologies rebased on Fedora 14 and Linux v2.6.35.

 The result has lots of problems, but I figure that publishing the work
 so far is the first step in getting things fixed.

 Things are in such an early stage that I'm labelling this as a
 developers-only release. To name a few: Sugar crashes all the time,
 the XO-1.5 camera doesn't work, there are some funky graphics bugs on
 XO-1, no power management, DCON doesn't work right on either laptop,
 desktop switching lands you at a blank screen.

 For now, please don't file bugs unless you include patches. And, to
 take 1 bite at a time out of this huge task, lets ignore all but the
 biggest sugar issues for now because there is plenty of OS work to be
 done first. (or alternatively lets take sugar issues directly to SL
 trac)

 And the links:
 2.6.35 kernel is in git://dev.laptop.org/olpc-2.6 branch olpc-2.6.35
 OS build is done from 'f14' branch of olpc-os-builder
 First released images are at http://build.laptop.org/F14/os1/
 Trac is at http://dev.laptop.org/milestone/F14 (basically my immediate
 TODO), please don't file tickets unless you include patches in these
 early days

 Note: I haven't tested those exact images (since Chris @ OLPC built
 them), so boot-testing them can be the first task for someone. I have
 been working from the same codebases making local images successfully,
 so they will probably work (to the extent that things are working).

 At this point this is all something put together by me in my spare
 time. It's not known if or when OLPC would start working on an
 official release from these efforts. But I figure that if we get
 things properly stabilized and all the work is done cleanly, we'll
 find one way or another to get this in the hands of deployments.

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Booted ok on XO-1.  At its current level, this system is already usable.
 [Was even able to apply my customizations, except for doing editing.]

In Terminal, cursor movement keys don't work.  [I also saw interference
to Terminal (white background) from dmesg? lines (black background),
after each boot -- but these would go away if I just restarted Sugar.]

Could not use text console (alt-ctl-Fn combo appears to be ignored).

Came up with ad-hoc network on channel 1 (interface wlan0).  I stopped
that, started mesh manually, made sure mesh multicast was active, was
able to transfer files with rsync (via mesh) between XO-1 systems.

Was able to run a number of Activities.  The bowdlerized Speak refused
to answer some of my questions.  Record never crashed - not even in
'High' quality on XO-1.  Among the non-starters were Chat and TamTam.

The 'My Settings' XO-color choice will be nice, once I figure it out.


Multimedia o.k.  Never had Sugar crash in several hours running XO-1.


Thank you muchly for your great leap forward,  mikus

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 31-08-2010 a las 23:22 -0600, Daniel Drake escribió:
 Things are in such an early stage that I'm labelling this as a
 developers-only release. To name a few: Sugar crashes all the time,
 the XO-1.5 camera doesn't work, there are some funky graphics bugs on
 XO-1, no power management, DCON doesn't work right on either laptop,
 desktop switching lands you at a blank screen.

I recommend rebasing on the geode driver 2.11.9, which was just released
by upstream. I've been testing it in Dextrose for about 3 weeks: it
fixes all the known rendering bugs and has no regressions.

Hopefully it will also work well on newer X servers, but I have not had
the opportunity to  test yet. If you're ok with it, I could upgrade the
xorg-x11-drv-geode package in Fedora 14.

I really admire the work you're doing and wish I could help more than
this, but time to work on XO builds is up for me. From now on I'll have
just enough time to finish spinning-off Dextrose 2 in the hands of
deployments.

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
 the XO-1.5 camera doesn't work, there are some funky graphics bugs on
 XO-1, no power management, DCON doesn't work right on either laptop,
 desktop switching lands you at a blank screen.
 
 I recommend rebasing on the geode driver 2.11.9, which was just released
 by upstream. I've been testing it in Dextrose for about 3 weeks: it
 fixes all the known rendering bugs and has no regressions.

The XO-1 os1 build already has  xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14.olpc1

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 1 September 2010 00:49, pbrobin...@gmail.com pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 With the kernel nearing a recent release is there any plans to get a
 chunk of the kernel patches upstream to ease on going maintenance?

I cleaned up the history a lot, which is the first big step in doing this.
It's a task I'd be interested in doing, but I'm not sure what priority
I'll give it.

Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis


--- On Wed, 9/1/10, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote:
 
  I recommend rebasing on the geode driver 2.11.9, which
 was just released
  by upstream. I've been testing it in Dextrose for
 about 3 weeks: it
  fixes all the known rendering bugs and has no
 regressions.
 
 The XO-1 os1 build already has 
 xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14.olpc1

This driver should be ported to F11/10.1.2 ASAP. Is day and night compared to 
2.11.8 when I run it in puppy. The XO-1 is like a new machine. 
pls do _not_ wait for 10.1.3

 


  

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 1 September 2010 10:14, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote:
 This driver should be ported to F11/10.1.2 ASAP. Is day and night compared to 
 2.11.8 when I run it in puppy. The XO-1 is like a new machine.
 pls do _not_ wait for 10.1.3

That's impossible. 10.1.2 has been released.

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis


--- On Wed, 9/1/10, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:

 From: Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org
 Subject: Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5
 To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org, mi...@bga.com, OLPC Devel 
 devel@lists.laptop.org, fedora-olpc-list fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:16 PM
 On 1 September 2010 10:14, Yioryos
 Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  This driver should be ported to F11/10.1.2 ASAP. Is
 day and night compared to 2.11.8 when I run it in puppy. The
 XO-1 is like a new machine.
  pls do _not_ wait for 10.1.3
 
 That's impossible. 10.1.2 has been released.
 

:-)
I guess what I imply is an F11 rpm. 
But you answer brings up an interesting issue, an olpc-critical-update 
mechanism similar to software update. Lets say a variant of yum with only one 
specific repo, or even just yum with only the olpc repo. A yum-olpc script

 Daniel
 


  

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis
mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote:
  This driver should be ported to F11/10.1.2 ASAP. Is
 day and night compared to 2.11.8 when I run it in puppy. The
 XO-1 is like a new machine.
  pls do _not_ wait for 10.1.3

 That's impossible. 10.1.2 has been released.


 :-)
 I guess what I imply is an F11 rpm.
 But you answer brings up an interesting issue, an olpc-critical-update 
 mechanism similar to software update. Lets say a variant of yum with only 
 one specific repo, or even just yum with only the olpc repo. A yum-olpc 
 script

Yioryos,

can you spin a F11 RPM of 2.11.9? If it's much improved, and a good
testing shows it has no regressions, it's a candidate for 10.1.3.

I will be pushing a nice list of fixups for 10.1.3 :-)




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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis

--- On Wed, 9/1/10, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5
 To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org, OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, 
 Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org, fedora-olpc-list 
 fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 2:55 PM
 On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:30 PM,
 Yioryos Asprobounitis
 mavrot...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
   This driver should be ported to F11/10.1.2
 ASAP. Is
  day and night compared to 2.11.8 when I run it in
 puppy. The
  XO-1 is like a new machine.
   pls do _not_ wait for 10.1.3
 
  That's impossible. 10.1.2 has been released.
 
 
  :-)
  I guess what I imply is an F11 rpm.
  But you answer brings up an interesting issue, an
 olpc-critical-update mechanism similar to software
 update. Lets say a variant of yum with only one specific
 repo, or even just yum with only the olpc repo. A yum-olpc
 script
 
 Yioryos,
 
 can you spin a F11 RPM of 2.11.9? If it's much improved,
 and a good
 testing shows it has no regressions, it's a candidate for
 10.1.3.
 
 I will be pushing a nice list of fixups for 10.1.3 :-)
 

I could try it...
Anybody has handy the 2.11.8/f11 .spec file for start?
Though I think that Bernie should have one for the dx2



  

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 01-09-2010 a las 15:55 -0300, Martin Langhoff escribió:

 can you spin a F11 RPM of 2.11.9? If it's much improved, and a good
 testing shows it has no regressions, it's a candidate for 10.1.3.

Enjoy:

 rpm -Uvh 
http://download.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/testing/dxo2/rpms/i386/os/xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14.i586.rpm

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