Re: Logo for D

2016-01-21 Thread karabuta via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 at 15:43:16 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas 
wrote:

On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 at 14:09:53 UTC, karabuta wrote:
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 22:48:52 UTC, Brad Anderson 
wrote:

http://i.imgur.com/RSBLFDJ.png

Doesn't it look so much better: http://i.imgur.com/QlrbCou.png




Waw!! I never new the thing at the top was a moon when I was 
doing my version :) Is that a moon on the "D" and Mars below 
the D? :) I now get it.


Actually, the D is Mars. The other shapes are Phobos and Deimos,
Mars' two moons. And of course two important D libraries.

--
  Simen


Haha! So that the story :)


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-20 Thread karabuta via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 22:48:52 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:28:48 UTC, Guillaume Piolat 
wrote:

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote:


I've long wished the D and moons were what was considered the 
logo[1]. The current one has three borders, a drop shadow, and 
gradients up the wazoo. Anything tacked on beyond the iconic 
shape should just be done based on context (like using red or 
white for the logo, a background color, etc.)


http://i.imgur.com/RSBLFDJ.png

Doesn't it look so much better: http://i.imgur.com/QlrbCou.png




Waw!! I never new the thing at the top was a moon when I was 
doing my version :) Is that a moon on the "D" and Mars below the 
D? :) I now get it.


I agree it should be simple. You cannot embroid the depth and 
shadow in the current logo.




Re: Logo for D

2016-01-19 Thread Zoadian via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 22:48:52 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:

Doesn't it look so much better: http://i.imgur.com/QlrbCou.png


+1


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-18 Thread Adrian Matoga via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:28:48 UTC, Guillaume Piolat 
wrote:

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote:

How do you see it?

http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png

Many variants are on the way.


The current logo is very good and there is value in keeping it. 
Now if it didn't have this extremely 90s-looking borders, it 
would be even better.


+1

Also, change just for the sake of change is just bad strategy.


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-18 Thread Guillaume Piolat via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote:

How do you see it?

http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png

Many variants are on the way.


The current logo is very good and there is value in keeping it. 
Now if it didn't have this extremely 90s-looking borders, it 
would be even better.


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-18 Thread Chris Wright via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:01:08 +, Marc Schütz wrote:

> On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote:
>> How do you see it?
>>
>> http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png
>>
>> Many variants are on the way.
> 
> This URL redirects me to that Google page:
> https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/61416
> 
> No, I'm not going to enable cookies.

I didn't see a logo either; I just saw a white background and large text 
telling me to enable javascript. Now I'm getting the impression it would 
take a solid ten minutes futzing about with RequestPolicy and NoScript to 
see the logo.

This is why I just self-host images.


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-18 Thread DaveG via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 22:48:52 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:28:48 UTC, Guillaume Piolat 
wrote:

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote:

How do you see it?

http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png

Many variants are on the way.


The current logo is very good and there is value in keeping 
it. Now if it didn't have this extremely 90s-looking borders, 
it would be even better.


I've long wished the D and moons were what was considered the 
logo[1]. The current one has three borders, a drop shadow, and 
gradients up the wazoo. Anything tacked on beyond the iconic 
shape should just be done based on context (like using red or 
white for the logo, a background color, etc.)


http://i.imgur.com/RSBLFDJ.png

Doesn't it look so much better: http://i.imgur.com/QlrbCou.png


I completely agree. The most recognisable symbols I can think of 
are characters. An "A" is clearly an "A" regardless of color, 
shading, or its surroundings. I think a logo should be 
recognisable in silhouette - this tends to keep it simple, 
portable, and customisable. This could include an official 
default color to enhance recognition/association. The default 
would just be there when there is not a strong reason to use 
something else, but if you want to incorporate the logo into some 
other artwork (slides, t-shirts, etc.) you have much greater 
flexibility.


The official logo should just be the D with the moons, not the 
entire box. The default color seems to have become that red color 
so the default logo would either be a red D (with moons) or, 
using negative space, a white D surrounded by red (as shown in 
the proposed header). There may be a time the shiny stylized box 
version fits the design, but the new site is certainly the place. 
The box feels like other design elements that crept into a logo 
and got stuck there.


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-18 Thread Bastiaan Veelo via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 22:48:52 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:

Doesn't it look so much better: http://i.imgur.com/QlrbCou.png


It does.


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-18 Thread Brad Anderson via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:28:48 UTC, Guillaume Piolat 
wrote:

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote:

How do you see it?

http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png

Many variants are on the way.


The current logo is very good and there is value in keeping it. 
Now if it didn't have this extremely 90s-looking borders, it 
would be even better.


I've long wished the D and moons were what was considered the 
logo[1]. The current one has three borders, a drop shadow, and 
gradients up the wazoo. Anything tacked on beyond the iconic 
shape should just be done based on context (like using red or 
white for the logo, a background color, etc.)


http://i.imgur.com/RSBLFDJ.png

Doesn't it look so much better: http://i.imgur.com/QlrbCou.png


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-17 Thread Karabuta via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 20:13:07 UTC, anonymous wrote:


It's not been rejected outright. More like put on ice. Or maybe 
I'm just not getting the hints :)


Andrei said: "Can we defer any changes to the logo so we don't 
get sidetracked in this? Just scale the existing logo to fit 
and defer any changes to it to later."

-- http://forum.dlang.org/post/n591ec$aqv$1...@digitalmars.com


Ohh! A great design is better seen by a designer. "Iron with 
steal, steel with gold, gold with diamond". Always room for 
improvement.


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-17 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 17.01.2016 18:55, Karabuta wrote:

Ohh! A great design is better seen by a designer. "Iron with steal,
steel with gold, gold with diamond". Always room for improvement.


I don't understand.


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-16 Thread Dylan Allbee via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote:

How do you see it?

http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png

Many variants are on the way.


In all honesty I like the current one better. The binary 
background feels gimmicky.


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-16 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 16.01.2016 18:55, karabuta wrote:

How do you see it?

http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png

Many variants are on the way.


Do you intend to propose this for the official logo?

If so, be aware that the logo is a delicate matter. There have been 
various proposals to change it from the current one, and all have been 
rejected. It's Walter himself who is rather strictly against any changes.


I have been pushing for this variant:

https://gist.github.com/aG0aep6G/0803ec5ae49f6afb0196

You see it's very, very similar to the current one. To the point that 
you could say it's really the same logo. Yet, it was the one part of the 
red-top-bar redesign that didn't fly with the powers that be. I haven't 
given up yet, though.


By the way, I'm not sure if this is announcement material. If you're 
looking for feedback, I think the General group would have been a better 
fit.


Logo for D

2016-01-16 Thread karabuta via Digitalmars-d-announce

How do you see it?

http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png

Many variants are on the way.


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-16 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 2016-01-16 18:55, karabuta wrote:

How do you see it?

http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png

Many variants are on the way.


I think any new logo should have a base form, with only two colors, 
black and white. This allows for further variations without loosing the 
identity and recognizability.


--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: Logo for D

2016-01-16 Thread karabuta via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 18:15:06 UTC, anonymous wrote:

On 16.01.2016 18:55, karabuta wrote:

[...]


Do you intend to propose this for the official logo?

If so, be aware that the logo is a delicate matter. There have 
been various proposals to change it from the current one, and 
all have been rejected. It's Walter himself who is rather 
strictly against any changes.


[...]




Nope. Just playing around. Why did they reject yours by the way?