Re: Logo for D
On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 at 15:43:16 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: On Wednesday, 20 January 2016 at 14:09:53 UTC, karabuta wrote: On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 22:48:52 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote: http://i.imgur.com/RSBLFDJ.png Doesn't it look so much better: http://i.imgur.com/QlrbCou.png Waw!! I never new the thing at the top was a moon when I was doing my version :) Is that a moon on the "D" and Mars below the D? :) I now get it. Actually, the D is Mars. The other shapes are Phobos and Deimos, Mars' two moons. And of course two important D libraries. -- Simen Haha! So that the story :)
Re: Logo for D
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 22:48:52 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote: On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:28:48 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote: On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote: I've long wished the D and moons were what was considered the logo[1]. The current one has three borders, a drop shadow, and gradients up the wazoo. Anything tacked on beyond the iconic shape should just be done based on context (like using red or white for the logo, a background color, etc.) http://i.imgur.com/RSBLFDJ.png Doesn't it look so much better: http://i.imgur.com/QlrbCou.png Waw!! I never new the thing at the top was a moon when I was doing my version :) Is that a moon on the "D" and Mars below the D? :) I now get it. I agree it should be simple. You cannot embroid the depth and shadow in the current logo.
Re: Logo for D
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 22:48:52 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote: Doesn't it look so much better: http://i.imgur.com/QlrbCou.png +1
Re: Logo for D
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:28:48 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote: On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote: How do you see it? http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png Many variants are on the way. The current logo is very good and there is value in keeping it. Now if it didn't have this extremely 90s-looking borders, it would be even better. +1 Also, change just for the sake of change is just bad strategy.
Re: Logo for D
On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote: How do you see it? http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png Many variants are on the way. The current logo is very good and there is value in keeping it. Now if it didn't have this extremely 90s-looking borders, it would be even better.
Re: Logo for D
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:01:08 +, Marc Schütz wrote: > On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote: >> How do you see it? >> >> http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png >> >> Many variants are on the way. > > This URL redirects me to that Google page: > https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/61416 > > No, I'm not going to enable cookies. I didn't see a logo either; I just saw a white background and large text telling me to enable javascript. Now I'm getting the impression it would take a solid ten minutes futzing about with RequestPolicy and NoScript to see the logo. This is why I just self-host images.
Re: Logo for D
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 22:48:52 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote: On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:28:48 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote: On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote: How do you see it? http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png Many variants are on the way. The current logo is very good and there is value in keeping it. Now if it didn't have this extremely 90s-looking borders, it would be even better. I've long wished the D and moons were what was considered the logo[1]. The current one has three borders, a drop shadow, and gradients up the wazoo. Anything tacked on beyond the iconic shape should just be done based on context (like using red or white for the logo, a background color, etc.) http://i.imgur.com/RSBLFDJ.png Doesn't it look so much better: http://i.imgur.com/QlrbCou.png I completely agree. The most recognisable symbols I can think of are characters. An "A" is clearly an "A" regardless of color, shading, or its surroundings. I think a logo should be recognisable in silhouette - this tends to keep it simple, portable, and customisable. This could include an official default color to enhance recognition/association. The default would just be there when there is not a strong reason to use something else, but if you want to incorporate the logo into some other artwork (slides, t-shirts, etc.) you have much greater flexibility. The official logo should just be the D with the moons, not the entire box. The default color seems to have become that red color so the default logo would either be a red D (with moons) or, using negative space, a white D surrounded by red (as shown in the proposed header). There may be a time the shiny stylized box version fits the design, but the new site is certainly the place. The box feels like other design elements that crept into a logo and got stuck there.
Re: Logo for D
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 22:48:52 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote: Doesn't it look so much better: http://i.imgur.com/QlrbCou.png It does.
Re: Logo for D
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:28:48 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote: On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote: How do you see it? http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png Many variants are on the way. The current logo is very good and there is value in keeping it. Now if it didn't have this extremely 90s-looking borders, it would be even better. I've long wished the D and moons were what was considered the logo[1]. The current one has three borders, a drop shadow, and gradients up the wazoo. Anything tacked on beyond the iconic shape should just be done based on context (like using red or white for the logo, a background color, etc.) http://i.imgur.com/RSBLFDJ.png Doesn't it look so much better: http://i.imgur.com/QlrbCou.png
Re: Logo for D
On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 20:13:07 UTC, anonymous wrote: It's not been rejected outright. More like put on ice. Or maybe I'm just not getting the hints :) Andrei said: "Can we defer any changes to the logo so we don't get sidetracked in this? Just scale the existing logo to fit and defer any changes to it to later." -- http://forum.dlang.org/post/n591ec$aqv$1...@digitalmars.com Ohh! A great design is better seen by a designer. "Iron with steal, steel with gold, gold with diamond". Always room for improvement.
Re: Logo for D
On 17.01.2016 18:55, Karabuta wrote: Ohh! A great design is better seen by a designer. "Iron with steal, steel with gold, gold with diamond". Always room for improvement. I don't understand.
Re: Logo for D
On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 17:55:13 UTC, karabuta wrote: How do you see it? http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png Many variants are on the way. In all honesty I like the current one better. The binary background feels gimmicky.
Re: Logo for D
On 16.01.2016 18:55, karabuta wrote: How do you see it? http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png Many variants are on the way. Do you intend to propose this for the official logo? If so, be aware that the logo is a delicate matter. There have been various proposals to change it from the current one, and all have been rejected. It's Walter himself who is rather strictly against any changes. I have been pushing for this variant: https://gist.github.com/aG0aep6G/0803ec5ae49f6afb0196 You see it's very, very similar to the current one. To the point that you could say it's really the same logo. Yet, it was the one part of the red-top-bar redesign that didn't fly with the powers that be. I haven't given up yet, though. By the way, I'm not sure if this is announcement material. If you're looking for feedback, I think the General group would have been a better fit.
Logo for D
How do you see it? http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png Many variants are on the way.
Re: Logo for D
On 2016-01-16 18:55, karabuta wrote: How do you see it? http://amazingws.0fees.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dlang2.png Many variants are on the way. I think any new logo should have a base form, with only two colors, black and white. This allows for further variations without loosing the identity and recognizability. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: Logo for D
On Saturday, 16 January 2016 at 18:15:06 UTC, anonymous wrote: On 16.01.2016 18:55, karabuta wrote: [...] Do you intend to propose this for the official logo? If so, be aware that the logo is a delicate matter. There have been various proposals to change it from the current one, and all have been rejected. It's Walter himself who is rather strictly against any changes. [...] Nope. Just playing around. Why did they reject yours by the way?