Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Brian Schott via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 07:04:27 UTC, Ludovit Lucenic 
wrote:
Hello yaz, how far did you get with Sublime Text autocomplete 
support for D?


https://github.com/yazd/DKit/

There's a link to this on DCD's wiki.

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Ludovit Lucenic via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Tuesday, 3 September 2013 at 05:50:58 UTC, yaz wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 September 2013 at 04:54:24 UTC, Rory McGuire 
wrote:
Do you ever use Sublime Text 2/3? Any plans to support 
integration with it?


Seriously awesome work. I've wanted to make this since I saw 
gocode,  but I

couldn't figure out how to get at the ast in dmd.
On 3 Sep 2013 00:25, "Brian Schott"  
wrote:




I'm currently experimenting a bit with Sublime Text and DCD. I 
might hopefully get an alpha quality plugin that just works in 
a week. No promises made.


Hello yaz, how far did you get with Sublime Text autocomplete 
support for D?

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Jacob Carlborg]

On 2013-09-15 23:41, Brian Schott wrote:


I start and stop the server manually. I know that this should be
improved, but there are a few other things that I'd like to focus on first.


Ok, I can probably add this to a menu.



Things such as the standard library location can be placed in
$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/dcd/dcd.conf or $HOME/.config/dcd/dcd.conf on Linux or
BSD, or dcd.conf (in the same directory as the server executable) on
Windows. The server reads this on startup and caches all .d and .di
files that it finds in the paths in that file.


Ok, I see. But a user needs to be able use different compilers for 
different projects. I'll see if I can use the project specific settings 
and fall back on dcd.conf.



Symbols are filtered by the import statements that are contained in the
text that you send to dcd-client, so there shouldn't be a conflict. If
you have multiple foo backages each with a bar module, then it'll
probably break.


So ideally one server per session/project. That won't conflict, right? I 
can just use different ports?


--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Jacob Carlborg]

On 2013-09-01 12:58, Brian Schott wrote:

* What is it?
DCD is a client and server program that work together to provide
autocomplete suggestions and function call tips to almost any text
editor that supports scripting or plugins.


I'm thinking about adding support for this to TextMate. But as soon as 
one adds this to an editor a bunch of new issues appears, which I'm 
trying to figure out.


* When to start/stop the server. I'm, at least as a start, going to try 
and implement this as a bundle command and not a plugin. A bundle 
command basically is a script that is run when a key is pressed


* How to deal with import paths? TextMate doesn't have any kind of build 
configuration. I need to be able to specify, except for the current 
project, the path to the standard library and possibly paths for other 
projects. I have an idea how to do this, using custom keys in the 
project specific settings, but I'm wondering how this is solved in other 
editors.


* How to deal with multiple sessions/projects? Should I have one server 
running per session/project? Say I have two different projects, both 
with the symbol foo.bar. I don't want those to cause conflicts.


--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Brian Schott]

On Sunday, 15 September 2013 at 12:38:03 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
wrote:
I'm thinking about adding support for this to TextMate. But as 
soon as one adds this to an editor a bunch of new issues 
appears, which I'm trying to figure out.


* When to start/stop the server. I'm, at least as a start, 
going to try and implement this as a bundle command and not a 
plugin. A bundle command basically is a script that is run when 
a key is pressed


I start and stop the server manually. I know that this should be 
improved, but there are a few other things that I'd like to focus 
on first.


* How to deal with import paths? TextMate doesn't have any kind 
of build configuration. I need to be able to specify, except 
for the current project, the path to the standard library and 
possibly paths for other projects. I have an idea how to do 
this, using custom keys in the project specific settings, but 
I'm wondering how this is solved in other editors.


Things such as the standard library location can be placed in 
$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/dcd/dcd.conf or $HOME/.config/dcd/dcd.conf on 
Linux or BSD, or dcd.conf (in the same directory as the server 
executable) on Windows. The server reads this on startup and 
caches all .d and .di files that it finds in the paths in that 
file.


* How to deal with multiple sessions/projects? Should I have 
one server running per session/project? Say I have two 
different projects, both with the symbol foo.bar. I don't 
want those to cause conflicts.


Symbols are filtered by the import statements that are contained 
in the text that you send to dcd-client, so there shouldn't be a 
conflict. If you have multiple foo backages each with a bar 
module, then it'll probably break.

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Walter Bright]

On 9/1/2013 3:58 AM, Brian Schott wrote:

* What does it look like?
There's a short demo video on Youtube: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo2POmn2_9U


Looks very nice!

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[André]

I just tried it with the Kate and it's working like a charm! All
contributors keep up the good work :-) I really like the
client/server approach because it enables everyone to use his or
hers favourite editor.

Is there a blog or changelog which allows to follow the further
progress?

Cheers
André

On Sunday, 1 September 2013 at 10:58:28 UTC, Brian Schott wrote:

* What is it?
DCD is a client and server program that work together to 
provide autocomplete suggestions and function call tips to 
almost any text editor that supports scripting or plugins.


* Who is it for?
People who would like autocomplete, but don't want to give up 
their favorite editor for an IDE.


* Where is it?
GitHub! https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD

* What does it look like?
There's a short demo video on Youtube: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo2POmn2_9U


* What editors does it work with?
Textadept, Kate/KDevelop, Vim, and Emacs. The Textadept 
integration script is the reference implementation.


* This sounds a lot like GoCode
It does, doesn't it?

* Does it work?
Yes and no. DCD is fairly new, and not all of the features 
you'd expect from a D autocompletion engine are present. I do 
feel that it's enough of an improvement over not having 
autocomplete to make this alpha announcement.


* Should I file bug reports in this announcement thread?
No. Add them here: 
https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD/issues?state=open

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Kiith-Sa]

On Tuesday, 10 September 2013 at 16:15:55 UTC, André wrote:

I just tried it with the Kate and it's working like a charm! All
contributors keep up the good work :-) I really like the
client/server approach because it enables everyone to use his or
hers favourite editor.

Is there a blog or changelog which allows to follow the further
progress?

Cheers
André

On Sunday, 1 September 2013 at 10:58:28 UTC, Brian Schott wrote:

* What is it?
DCD is a client and server program that work together to 
provide autocomplete suggestions and function call tips to 
almost any text editor that supports scripting or plugins.


* Who is it for?
People who would like autocomplete, but don't want to give up 
their favorite editor for an IDE.


* Where is it?
GitHub! https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD

* What does it look like?
There's a short demo video on Youtube: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo2POmn2_9U


* What editors does it work with?
Textadept, Kate/KDevelop, Vim, and Emacs. The Textadept 
integration script is the reference implementation.


* This sounds a lot like GoCode
It does, doesn't it?

* Does it work?
Yes and no. DCD is fairly new, and not all of the features 
you'd expect from a D autocompletion engine are present. I do 
feel that it's enough of an improvement over not having 
autocomplete to make this alpha announcement.


* Should I file bug reports in this announcement thread?
No. Add them here: 
https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD/issues?state=open


https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD/commits/master

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Jacob Carlborg]

On 2013-09-07 13:23, David wrote:


I wrote the Kate/Kwrite/Kdevelop Plugin. I recommend you to let the
server running all the time anyways (start it with X e.g.), since
processing phobos alone takes quite some time. If you power up the
editor you don't wanna wait a few minutes until DCD is done and can
answer the requests. Also, if you start multiple sessions, you want only
one server running (the K* Plugin won't start multiple servers anyways
because it has a fixed port).


Ok. As long as there won't be any conflicts or extra processing of files 
not used.


--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[David]

Am 03.09.2013 08:46, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:
 On 2013-09-03 00:20, Brian Schott wrote:
 
 That's something that the editor plugin can call on shutdown. DCD pretty
 much requires that the editor support scripting.
 
 I was looking in to adding this to TextMate. But the easiest solution
 would most likely be using bundles. In TextMate that's basically a
 script that gets executed when a hotkey is pressed. I mean, I can't
 really start and stop the sever each time the users press that key.
 
 TextMate supports plugins as well, kind of. But it's quite cumbersome to
 write. I hasn't a real API, one uses method swizzling and observers to
 implement a plugin. It's a lot easier now when TextMate 2 is open source.
 
 It also seems a bit unnecessary to have the server running as soon as
 the user opens TextMate. He/she might not even use the editor for D this
 time.
 

I wrote the Kate/Kwrite/Kdevelop Plugin. I recommend you to let the
server running all the time anyways (start it with X e.g.), since
processing phobos alone takes quite some time. If you power up the
editor you don't wanna wait a few minutes until DCD is done and can
answer the requests. Also, if you start multiple sessions, you want only
one server running (the K* Plugin won't start multiple servers anyways
because it has a fixed port).

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Rory McGuire]

Nice. Would you mind keeping the default key bindings that gosublime uses?
On 3 Sep 2013 07:55, yaz yazan.dab...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tuesday, 3 September 2013 at 04:54:24 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote:

 Do you ever use Sublime Text 2/3? Any plans to support integration with
 it?

 Seriously awesome work. I've wanted to make this since I saw gocode,  but
 I
 couldn't figure out how to get at the ast in dmd.
 On 3 Sep 2013 00:25, Brian Schott briancsch...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm currently experimenting a bit with Sublime Text and DCD. I might
 hopefully get an alpha quality plugin that just works in a week. No
 promises made.

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Jacob Carlborg]

On 2013-09-03 00:20, Brian Schott wrote:


That's something that the editor plugin can call on shutdown. DCD pretty
much requires that the editor support scripting.


I was looking in to adding this to TextMate. But the easiest solution 
would most likely be using bundles. In TextMate that's basically a 
script that gets executed when a hotkey is pressed. I mean, I can't 
really start and stop the sever each time the users press that key.


TextMate supports plugins as well, kind of. But it's quite cumbersome to 
write. I hasn't a real API, one uses method swizzling and observers to 
implement a plugin. It's a lot easier now when TextMate 2 is open source.


It also seems a bit unnecessary to have the server running as soon as 
the user opens TextMate. He/she might not even use the editor for D this 
time.


--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Faux Amis]

On 3-9-2013 00:20, Brian Schott wrote:

On Monday, 2 September 2013 at 14:59:10 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

On 2013-09-02 09:07, Brian Schott wrote:


dcd-client --shutdown will shut down the server.


Well, I'm mean from within the text editor. Is the user expected to
run this when quitting the editor?


That's something that the editor plugin can call on shutdown. DCD pretty
much requires that the editor support scripting.


Let me plug in Notepad++ plugins :)

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/notepad-plus/index.php?title=Plugin_Development

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Jacob Carlborg]

On 2013-09-01 12:58, Brian Schott wrote:

* What is it?
DCD is a client and server program that work together to provide
autocomplete suggestions and function call tips to almost any text
editor that supports scripting or plugins.


* Anything new since you last time you announced it?

* How does one best handle starting and stopping of the server?

--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Brian Schott]

On Monday, 2 September 2013 at 06:30:48 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

* Anything new since you last time you announced it?

I'm pretty sure this is the first thread in .announce. Somebody
else created a thread about the Kate plugin about a week ago
though.


* How does one best handle starting and stopping of the server?


dcd-client --shutdown will shut down the server.

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Brian Schott]

On Monday, 2 September 2013 at 14:59:10 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

On 2013-09-02 09:07, Brian Schott wrote:


dcd-client --shutdown will shut down the server.


Well, I'm mean from within the text editor. Is the user 
expected to run this when quitting the editor?


That's something that the editor plugin can call on shutdown. DCD 
pretty much requires that the editor support scripting.

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Rory McGuire]

Do you ever use Sublime Text 2/3? Any plans to support integration with it?

Seriously awesome work. I've wanted to make this since I saw gocode,  but I
couldn't figure out how to get at the ast in dmd.
On 3 Sep 2013 00:25, Brian Schott briancsch...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Monday, 2 September 2013 at 14:59:10 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

 On 2013-09-02 09:07, Brian Schott wrote:

  dcd-client --shutdown will shut down the server.


 Well, I'm mean from within the text editor. Is the user expected to run
 this when quitting the editor?


 That's something that the editor plugin can call on shutdown. DCD pretty
 much requires that the editor support scripting.

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[yaz]

On Tuesday, 3 September 2013 at 04:54:24 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote:
Do you ever use Sublime Text 2/3? Any plans to support 
integration with it?


Seriously awesome work. I've wanted to make this since I saw 
gocode,  but I

couldn't figure out how to get at the ast in dmd.
On 3 Sep 2013 00:25, Brian Schott briancsch...@gmail.com 
wrote:




I'm currently experimenting a bit with Sublime Text and DCD. I 
might hopefully get an alpha quality plugin that just works in a 
week. No promises made.

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[ilya-stromberg]

On Sunday, 1 September 2013 at 10:58:28 UTC, Brian Schott wrote:

* What is it?
DCD is a client and server program that work together to 
provide autocomplete suggestions and function call tips to 
almost any text editor that supports scripting or plugins.


Do you have any plans to support go to definition function? 
It's really useful in real life.

Re: DCD: Autocomplete without the IDE

[Brian Schott]

On Sunday, 1 September 2013 at 13:57:58 UTC, ilya-stromberg wrote:
Do you have any plans to support go to definition function? 
It's really useful in real life.


Yes. I just filed it as issue 26. 
https://github.com/Hackerpilot/DCD/issues/26