Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

2009-04-01 Thread Per
There is no hidden linux in the java client, its just an application.
No reboot and no dog involved.

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: John Bradley jbrad...@sasktel.net
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 3:49:26 AM
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF


I didn’t . must have got lost in the linux :}
 
I’ll google it . So is this a true windows software, or one
where I have to reboot my computer using gopher or prairie dog or some other
linux on a disc?
 
John
VE5MU
 
From:digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi o...@yahoogroups. com] 
On Behalf
Of Andrew O'Brien
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:21 PM
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF
 
John VE5MU, I want to make sure that you saw
that message about PSKMAIL indeed being available in Windows/Java?

Andy K3UK
   


  

[digitalradio] Re: New ALE Yahoogroup

2009-04-01 Thread Tooner
Good idea, but the first thing I'd recommend is to use something besides the 
PCALE software as your screenshot on the forum!

f, k2ncc



Re: [digitalradio] Pinging - PSKMail Windows server?

2009-04-01 Thread Per
Hi Russel,

Please make sure you are using 10.148 as the center frequency. To do that I 
would set a dial frequency of 10.147 with USB on the rig (+- rig accuracy) and 
use a 1000 Hz offset (cursor frequency) in fldigi. Please also note that its a 
narrow mode and most servers use narrow filters so its very important to be 
right on top of the server.
One good method is to listen for the server beacon and then fine tune the rig 
frequency.

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: Russell Blair russell_blai...@yahoo.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 1:30:05 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Pinging - PSKMail Windows server?


Sri, my pinging is on 10.148 USB BPSK250.
 
Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell. Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Per n59...@yahoo. com wrote:

From: Per n59...@yahoo. com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 4:05 PM


Hi Rick,

Great that you decided to try out the java client, good to hear that you had 
some success as well.
Yes, any server that receives a ping will respond. I see that WB5CON did answer 
your pings and that you were able to link and connect to that server.
I also see that you were able to list the files at the server, wasn't many 
files there (only pings.log) but the listing worked :-)

The server saying Hi KV9U, pse update your record is an indication that it 
lacks information about you (how to get your email for instance). You can enter 
settings through the options and then upload them to the server when connected. 
You can then access your pop email account, send email etc. You can also do 
stuff without updating any info on the server, browsing the web, getting camp 
sites, weather and much more.

Much of what you can do with the java client is in the fast start pdf that came 
with it, you may also have a look at the wiki where much of the information 
about the linux client is applicable, that info is available here: 
http://pskmail. wikispaces. com/operation

As you said the java client is not 100% complete yet and the TTY mode will be 
added, its on a list of things to implement :-)

73 de Per, sm0rwo






 From: Rick W mrf...@frontiernet. net
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:23:49 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?


I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I 
understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server 
stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the 
only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of 
the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and 
KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is 
about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right 
for daytime propagation.

The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or 
is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX.

I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.

The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have 
to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital 
from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public 
service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you 
need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and 
it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this.

Our local group is trying to piggyback off a resurgence of SSB 
activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest 
in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any 
digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some 
interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. 
Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start 
somewhere.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Russell Blair wrote:
 Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a 
 server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.



 

   


  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-04-01 Thread Rein Couperus
Hi Toby, you may want to try 10.148, the server network there will let you 
connect 
from all over EU during the daytime. 
We see connects from Moscow, from the Cap Verde Islands, from south of Spain...
40 meters is bad because of QRM, the band being very narrow, and everybody 
is on top of each other... pactor, RTTY psk31...
30 meters is quiet and no contests

73,

Rein PA0R

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Toby Burnett ruff...@hebrides.net
 Gesendet: 31.03.09 23:38:15
 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?


 Wish someone would set up a UK server for testing purposes at least, 
 could get on 7Mhz or 3.5Mhz. Would be ideal. I've never managed to 
 connect with the Swedish / German servers yet. Must be doing 
 something wrong!! Using JPSKMAIL RX is fine with Fldigi but never 
 connects. 
 
 ---Original Message---
 
  *From:*Andy obrien
  *Date:* 31/03/2009 13:19:31
  *To:*digitalradio
  *Subject:* [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
 
 Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ? I
 thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
 America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.
 
 Andy K3UK
 
 

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Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-04-01 Thread Rein Couperus

 I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
 listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
 connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
 fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.
 

The latest version 0.3.3 ca already do a lot more...

This is from the wiki:
Send APRS Posit
Send APRS message
Send APRS email
Send ping
Send Link packet to server
Receive APRS message
Receive short email on APRS
Receive weather (or other) bulletins automatically and store them.
Set APRS Icon
Set APRS Beacon Period (10, 30, 60 mins)
Set APRS status message
GPS connection (RS232 and USB)

ARQ terminal mode:
Get your mail from ISP (e.g. gmail)
Send mail via ISP
List, download and read files on the server (tell the sysop what you need)
Telnet to any computer on the internet, e.g. your packet mailbox
Get special info depending on your location from the web like:
- tide information
- List of APRS stations
- List of messages on findu
- For RV'ers a list of parking lots in a radius of 5 Miles from your location 
(EU only)
- The latest wx bulletin
- Grib files for zyGrib
- Latest  IAC fleetcode file for zyGrib

etc, etc, etc... as PKSmail is a free decentralized system the sysops determine 
what info is available on the servers. You will have to bribe the system 
operators to get your specific stuff on it.
In EU we got this organized so the same info is available on various servers, 
and is updated several times a day.
Any info not on the server can be called from the web

This is what you see when asking a files list from PI4TUE:
atlantic 2009-04-01 10:12 8398
DL-wetter 2009-04-01 10:12 4042
highseas_uk 2009-04-01 10:12 10734
Kanal-Gibraltar 2009-04-01 10:12 61078
kueste 2009-04-01 10:12 1379
MMost 2009-04-01 10:12 22566
MMwest 2009-04-01 10:12 24980
navtex-dutch 2009-04-01 10:12 1529
navtex-emden 2009-04-01 10:12 5547
navtex-rostock 2009-04-01 10:12 3469
nordostsee 2009-04-01 10:12 28575
pings.log 2009-04-01 11:25 226
Stationsmeldungen 2009-04-01 10:12 1513
wx-dutch 2009-04-01 10:12 958

Mostly information for our sailing friends, and in various languages

I am sure your imagination is able to extend this list...

73,

Rein PA0R

BTW, when I send a ping on 10148.0 here I get 5 servers answering...

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[digitalradio] PSKmail in Windows

2009-04-01 Thread Andy obrien
It came out a few weeks ago and is so easy,  even I can do it.


Andy K3UK


Re: [digitalradio] Pinging - PSKMail Windows server?

2009-04-01 Thread Russell Blair
Thanks Per, I will remenber to check that tnx 73 Russell NC5O

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Per n59...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Per n59...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Pinging - PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 1:57 AM








Hi Russel,

Please make sure you are using 10.148 as the center frequency. To do that I 
would set a dial frequency of 10.147 with USB on the rig (+- rig accuracy) and 
use a 1000 Hz offset (cursor frequency) in fldigi. Please also note that its a 
narrow mode and most servers use narrow filters so its very important to be 
right on top of the server.
One good method is to listen for the server beacon and then fine tune the rig 
frequency.

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: Russell Blair russell_blair86@ yahoo.com
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 1:30:05 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Pinging - PSKMail Windows server?








Sri, my pinging is on 10.148 USB BPSK250.
 
Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell. Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Per n59...@yahoo. com wrote:

From: Per n59...@yahoo. com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 4:05 PM






Hi Rick,

Great that you decided to try out the java client, good to hear that you had 
some success as well.
Yes, any server that receives a ping will respond. I see that WB5CON did answer 
your pings and that you were able to link and connect to that server.
I also see that you were able to list the files at the server, wasn't many 
files there (only pings.log) but the listing worked :-)

The server saying Hi KV9U, pse update your record is an indication that it 
lacks information about you (how to get your email for instance). You can enter 
settings through the options and then upload them to the server when connected. 
You can then access your pop email account, send email etc. You can also do 
stuff without updating any info on the server, browsing the web, getting camp 
sites, weather and much more.

Much of what you can do with the java client is in the fast start pdf that came 
with it, you may also have a look at the wiki where much of the information 
about the linux client is applicable, that info is available here: 
http://pskmail. wikispaces. com/operation

As you said the java client is not 100% complete yet and the TTY mode will be 
added, its on a list of things to implement :-)

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: Rick W mrf...@frontiernet. net
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:23:49 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?



I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I 
understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server 
stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the 
only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of 
the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and 
KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is 
about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right 
for daytime propagation.

The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or 
is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX.

I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.

The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have 
to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital 
from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public 
service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you 
need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and 
it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this.

Our local group is trying to piggyback off a resurgence of SSB 
activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest 
in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any 
digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some 
interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. 
Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start 
somewhere.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Russell Blair wrote:
 Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a 
 server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.





















  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-04-01 Thread Rick W
Not able to get much of that happening here. The only server station has 
been wb5con so far. I pick up some other calls but not sure what they 
are doing. Just saw kd4qcl and seconds later saw kd5umw de kd5wdq. Maybe 
calling each other on the same frequency?

I am hoping that as I use it more, and we have an increasing number of 
active servers, this system could become very practical by having one 
program that can help with multiple needs. As I have said before, having 
one program that can do what otherwise would require many different 
programs, would make this a very useful digital system.

73,

Rick, KV9U



Rein Couperus wrote:

 The latest version 0.3.3 ca already do a lot more...

 This is from the wiki:
 Send APRS Posit
 Send APRS message
 Send APRS email
 Send ping
 Send Link packet to server
 Receive APRS message
 Receive short email on APRS
 Receive weather (or other) bulletins automatically and store them.
 Set APRS Icon
 Set APRS Beacon Period (10, 30, 60 mins)
 Set APRS status message
 GPS connection (RS232 and USB)

 ARQ terminal mode:
 Get your mail from ISP (e.g. gmail)
 Send mail via ISP
 List, download and read files on the server (tell the sysop what you need)
 Telnet to any computer on the internet, e.g. your packet mailbox
 Get special info depending on your location from the web like:
 - tide information
 - List of APRS stations
 - List of messages on findu
 - For RV'ers a list of parking lots in a radius of 5 Miles from your location 
 (EU only)
 - The latest wx bulletin
 - Grib files for zyGrib
 - Latest  IAC fleetcode file for zyGrib

 etc, etc, etc... as PKSmail is a free decentralized system the sysops 
 determine 
 what info is available on the servers. You will have to bribe the system 
 operators to get your specific stuff on it.
 In EU we got this organized so the same info is available on various servers, 
 and is updated several times a day.
 Any info not on the server can be called from the web

 This is what you see when asking a files list from PI4TUE:
 atlantic 2009-04-01 10:12 8398
 DL-wetter 2009-04-01 10:12 4042
 highseas_uk 2009-04-01 10:12 10734
 Kanal-Gibraltar 2009-04-01 10:12 61078
 kueste 2009-04-01 10:12 1379
 MMost 2009-04-01 10:12 22566
 MMwest 2009-04-01 10:12 24980
 navtex-dutch 2009-04-01 10:12 1529
 navtex-emden 2009-04-01 10:12 5547
 navtex-rostock 2009-04-01 10:12 3469
 nordostsee 2009-04-01 10:12 28575
 pings.log 2009-04-01 11:25 226
 Stationsmeldungen 2009-04-01 10:12 1513
 wx-dutch 2009-04-01 10:12 958

 Mostly information for our sailing friends, and in various languages

 I am sure your imagination is able to extend this list...

 73,

 Rein PA0R

 BTW, when I send a ping on 10148.0 here I get 5 servers answering...

   
 


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Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-04-01 Thread Russell Blair
Rick, well the only I have heard today was VE7SUN @12:00 UTC, 30m seems dead hr 
in Texas.

Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net wrote:

From: Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 8:49 AM






Not able to get much of that happening here. The only server station has 
been wb5con so far. I pick up some other calls but not sure what they 
are doing. Just saw kd4qcl and seconds later saw kd5umw de kd5wdq. Maybe 
calling each other on the same frequency?

I am hoping that as I use it more, and we have an increasing number of 
active servers, this system could become very practical by having one 
program that can help with multiple needs. As I have said before, having 
one program that can do what otherwise would require many different 
programs, would make this a very useful digital system.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Rein Couperus wrote:

 The latest version 0.3.3 ca already do a lot more...

 This is from the wiki:
 Send APRS Posit
 Send APRS message
 Send APRS email
 Send ping
 Send Link packet to server
 Receive APRS message
 Receive short email on APRS
 Receive weather (or other) bulletins automatically and store them.
 Set APRS Icon
 Set APRS Beacon Period (10, 30, 60 mins)
 Set APRS status message
 GPS connection (RS232 and USB)

 ARQ terminal mode:
 Get your mail from ISP (e.g. gmail)
 Send mail via ISP
 List, download and read files on the server (tell the sysop what you need)
 Telnet to any computer on the internet, e.g. your packet mailbox
 Get special info depending on your location from the web like:
 - tide information
 - List of APRS stations
 - List of messages on findu
 - For RV'ers a list of parking lots in a radius of 5 Miles from your location 
 (EU only)
 - The latest wx bulletin
 - Grib files for zyGrib
 - Latest IAC fleetcode file for zyGrib

 etc, etc, etc... as PKSmail is a free decentralized system the sysops 
 determine 
 what info is available on the servers. You will have to bribe the system 
 operators to get your specific stuff on it.
 In EU we got this organized so the same info is available on various servers, 
 and is updated several times a day.
 Any info not on the server can be called from the web

 This is what you see when asking a files list from PI4TUE:
 atlantic 2009-04-01 10:12 8398
 DL-wetter 2009-04-01 10:12 4042
 highseas_uk 2009-04-01 10:12 10734
 Kanal-Gibraltar 2009-04-01 10:12 61078
 kueste 2009-04-01 10:12 1379
 MMost 2009-04-01 10:12 22566
 MMwest 2009-04-01 10:12 24980
 navtex-dutch 2009-04-01 10:12 1529
 navtex-emden 2009-04-01 10:12 5547
 navtex-rostock 2009-04-01 10:12 3469
 nordostsee 2009-04-01 10:12 28575
 pings.log 2009-04-01 11:25 226
 Stationsmeldungen 2009-04-01 10:12 1513
 wx-dutch 2009-04-01 10:12 958

 Mostly information for our sailing friends, and in various languages... .

 I am sure your imagination is able to extend this list...

 73,

 Rein PA0R

 BTW, when I send a ping on 10148.0 here I get 5 servers answering...

 
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Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

2009-04-01 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 05:54 PM 3/31/2009, you wrote:
When you say That station is in New York., what do you mean?


The ground station is in riverhead new york.






Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-04-01 Thread Rick W
If PSKmail becomes popular here in the U.S., we will likely have many 
more servers than at present. Something that has been lacking with all 
other systems is the minimal use of the lower bands for NVIS operation. 
As long as there is a path close to (but not exceeding) the MUF, the 
signal quality will often be the best, but the longer paths may not be 
open, when shorter ones are open most of the time.

We have at least one group here in my state that attempts to use an 80 
meter 300 baud packet BBS but I know they have a lot of retries and 
probably time outs with the messages not always getting through on NVIS. 
This means that other protocols need to be developed since PSK250 is 
probably no better and maybe not quite as good as 2FSK300?

Another thought  is it possible to use PSKmail on VHF? It would seem 
like a good fit for moderate distance communication, local to maybe 100 
miles? Maybe even with FM and vertical polarization, which 99% of active 
hams already have available? Has anyone tried this in EU or other parts 
of the world?

73,

Rick, KV9U


Russell Blair wrote:
 Rick, well the only I have heard today was VE7SUN @12:00 UTC, 30m 
 seems dead hr in Texas.
 Russell




[digitalradio] Slow Scan TV from the ISS

2009-04-01 Thread Tony
All, 

The International Space Station has been active on slow scan TV. I captured a 
picture of one of the crew members this afternoon as well as some voice 
commentary about the mode. I made a short video of the voice and image capture 
and can send it via email if anyone is interested. 

The 2 meter downlink is on 145.800 MHz and the images can be copied with any 
SSTV software. The MMSSTV program has an auto mode detect / auto start feature 
that makes it easy. For those who do not have tracking software, there's 
real-time online tracking available at www.n2yo.com 

The downlink is very strong so just about any 2 meter antenna will do. The 
MMSSTV program is available here: http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/mmsstv/

Tony -K2MO 


[digitalradio] The Skirmish Digital Prefix Contest 2009

2009-04-01 Thread ny2u
Attention all you Digital Denizens out there in Radio Land!

Are you  ready to Skirmish? TARA style, that is, on Saturday April 18, 2009 
from Z  through 2359Z.

Dust off those rig interfaces. Adjust your sound cards.  Sort out the cables. 
Fire up the software. Review the Macros and check out the  rules at the _TARA 
Skirmish Web  Site_ (http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_dpx_rules.html) 
(_http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_dpx_rules.html_ 
(http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_dpx_rules.html) )

This  is a multi digital mode operation, each mode being a separate entry. 
This  contest is a must for you prefix hunters. There will be many new or rare  
prefixes heard.

'73 and hope to work you in the Skirmish - Bro. Rich,  Contest Manager 
kc2...@arrl.net


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[digitalradio] Strange signal on 30M

2009-04-01 Thread Ron Walters
Was listening to 30M this evening between 10.118 and 10.140 and there is 
a digital signal that occupies the entire space between 120 and 140.  
multi tones spaced about 5 to to 7hz apart.  Only hearing it on 30M  
Anyone else hearing it or do I have some new local noise maker in 
action.  Signal exhibits QSB and is S-8 strong and getting stronger here 
in GA.

73 de
Ron W4LDE



Re: [digitalradio] Strange signal on 30M

2009-04-01 Thread Tony
Ron,

Can you record it and send it my way?

Tony -K2MO


- Original Message - 
From: Ron Walters w4...@numail.org
To: digitalra...@yahoo digitalradio@yahoogroups.com; RFI - 
Contesting.com r...@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:37 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Strange signal on 30M


 Was listening to 30M this evening between 10.118 and 10.140 and there is
 a digital signal that occupies the entire space between 120 and 140.
 multi tones spaced about 5 to to 7hz apart.  Only hearing it on 30M
 Anyone else hearing it or do I have some new local noise maker in
 action.  Signal exhibits QSB and is S-8 strong and getting stronger here
 in GA.

 73 de
 Ron W4LDE

 




Re: [digitalradio] Slow Scan TV from the ISS

2009-04-01 Thread Tony
All,

Looks like the crew turned off the SSTV and switched to packet mode. See 
link below for more info on the ISS and amateur radio. The amateur radio 
status reports are located on the right side of the page.

http://www.issfanclub.com/

Tony -K2MO


- Original Message - 
From: Tony d...@optonline.net
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 3:40 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Slow Scan TV from the ISS


 All,

 The International Space Station has been active on slow scan TV. I 
 captured a picture of one of the crew members this afternoon as well as 
 some voice commentary about the mode. I made a short video of the voice 
 and image capture and can send it via email if anyone is interested.

 The 2 meter downlink is on 145.800 MHz and the images can be copied with 
 any SSTV software. The MMSSTV program has an auto mode detect / auto start 
 feature that makes it easy. For those who do not have tracking software, 
 there's real-time online tracking available at www.n2yo.com

 The downlink is very strong so just about any 2 meter antenna will do. The 
 MMSSTV program is available here: 
 http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/mmsstv/

 Tony -K2MO
 




[digitalradio] CQ Men In Black?

2009-04-01 Thread Tony
All,

Just copied a most interesting CQ message on 20 meter PSK31 (call sign 
purposely deleted)

CQ Moon...CQ Mars...CQ Nearby Star Systems...CQ Alien Lifeforms Or Fellow 
Men In Black...DE X Calling CQ and Standing By

An adult beverages may have played a roll in this :  )

Tony -K2MO





Re: [digitalradio] CQ Men In Black?

2009-04-01 Thread Russell Blair
Soungs like WA4D is back !.
 
Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Tony d...@optonline.net
Subject: [digitalradio] CQ Men In Black?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 6:20 PM






All,

Just copied a most interesting CQ message on 20 meter PSK31 (call sign 
purposely deleted)

CQ Moon...CQ Mars...CQ Nearby Star Systems...CQ Alien Lifeforms Or Fellow 
Men In Black...DE X Calling CQ and Standing By

An adult beverages may have played a roll in this : )

Tony -K2MO

















  

Re: [digitalradio] CQ Men In Black?

2009-04-01 Thread Andy obrien
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
 All,

 Just copied a most interesting CQ message on 20 meter PSK31 (call sign
 purposely deleted)

 CQ Moon...CQ Mars...CQ Nearby Star Systems...CQ Alien Lifeforms Or Fellow
 Men In Black...DE X Calling CQ and Standing By

 An adult beverages may have played a roll in this : )

 Tony -K2MO

Tony, did you dF the signals to see if there were from our planet?
Perhaps it was the ultimate DX signal.


Re: [digitalradio] Rick - PSKMail Windows server?

2009-04-01 Thread Russell Blair
Rick, I hear you station pinging are you running a server I will try to connect 
to you ?. I also am hearing VE7SUN some times.
 
Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net wrote:

From: Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 9:22 AM






If PSKmail becomes popular here in the U.S., we will likely have many 
more servers than at present. Something that has been lacking with all 
other systems is the minimal use of the lower bands for NVIS operation. 
As long as there is a path close to (but not exceeding) the MUF, the 
signal quality will often be the best, but the longer paths may not be 
open, when shorter ones are open most of the time.

We have at least one group here in my state that attempts to use an 80 
meter 300 baud packet BBS but I know they have a lot of retries and 
probably time outs with the messages not always getting through on NVIS. 
This means that other protocols need to be developed since PSK250 is 
probably no better and maybe not quite as good as 2FSK300?

Another thought  is it possible to use PSKmail on VHF? It would seem 
like a good fit for moderate distance communication, local to maybe 100 
miles? Maybe even with FM and vertical polarization, which 99% of active 
hams already have available? Has anyone tried this in EU or other parts 
of the world?

73,

Rick, KV9U

Russell Blair wrote:
 Rick, well the only I have heard today was VE7SUN @12:00 UTC, 30m 
 seems dead hr in Texas.
 Russell


















  

[digitalradio] Re: CQ Men In Black?

2009-04-01 Thread Bill McLaughlin
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony d...@... wrote:

 All,
 
 Just copied a most interesting CQ message on 20 meter PSK31 (call sign 
 purposely deleted)
 
 CQ Moon...CQ Mars...CQ Nearby Star Systems...CQ Alien Lifeforms Or Fellow 
 Men In Black...DE X Calling CQ and Standing By
 
 An adult beverages may have played a roll in this :  )
 
 Tony -K2MO


Hi Tony,

Have heard similar; never heard any replies though (yet). Oddness abounds!

73,

Bill N9DSJ



Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

2009-04-01 Thread Rick W
Hi Howard,

During the daytime, 160, 80, and sometimes 40 meters are NVIS capable 
depending upon world location, but for sure 40 meters is usually open 
for lower angle distances and can be very good. NVIS just means that you 
can get the close in stations as well as more distant station, so there 
is no skip zone.

Linux has not been very successful here in the U.S. with most ham 
computer users. Even the ones who are very techy, such as myself, find 
it mediocre as an operating system. Several of my ham friends have tried 
it over the years too and abandoned it. A nearby ham, who is very tech 
oriented decided a few months ago that he was going to really get into 
Linux, until he really tried it and realized it just was not going to 
work for him and he is an electronics engineer. That has been the case 
with most other hams I know and some of us, myself included, really, 
really, wanted to like the OS, even with its shortcomings. But it just 
has not been very practical at this point because like so many things in 
life, the trade-offs are too great:(

73,

Rick, KV9U




Howard Brown wrote:
 GM Rick,

 I have been listening for PSKmail stations for some time.  NVIS could 
 be valuable at times but it would also be useful to have servers 
 available on 40 and 80 meters under current conditions.  These servers 
 would be reachable from distances greater than NVIS and compensate for 
 weak propagation in the 100 to 500 mile range.

 I think the guys in Europe are way ahead of us with this software. 
 They don't seem to be so afraid of Linux.

 Howard K5HB

 
 *From:* Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net
 *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 1, 2009 9:22:59 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

 If PSKmail becomes popular here in the U.S., we will likely have many
 more servers than at present. Something that has been lacking with all
 other systems is the minimal use of the lower bands for NVIS operation.
 As long as there is a path close to (but not exceeding) the MUF, the
 signal quality will often be the best, but the longer paths may not be
 open, when shorter ones are open most of the time.

 We have at least one group here in my state that attempts to use an 80
 meter 300 baud packet BBS but I know they have a lot of retries and
 probably time outs with the messages not always getting through on NVIS.
 This means that other protocols need to be developed since PSK250 is
 probably no better and maybe not quite as good as 2FSK300?

 Another thought  is it possible to use PSKmail on VHF? It would seem
 like a good fit for moderate distance communication, local to maybe 100
 miles? Maybe even with FM and vertical polarization, which 99% of active
 hams already have available? Has anyone tried this in EU or other parts
 of the world?

 73,

 Rick, KV9U

 Russell Blair wrote:
  Rick, well the only I have heard today was VE7SUN @12:00 UTC, 30m
  seems dead hr in Texas.
  Russell
 



 
 


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Re: [digitalradio] CQ Men In Black?

2009-04-01 Thread Tony
Andy, 

 Tony, did you dF the signals to see if there were from our planet?
 Perhaps it was the ultimate DX signal.

I'm certain the signal was coming from the west. The antenna does not have 
elevation control so I can't give anymore detail than that. Sorry OM... 

Where's Jodie Foster when you need her!  :   )

Tony -K2MO




- Original Message - 
From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CQ Men In Black?


 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
 All,

 Just copied a most interesting CQ message on 20 meter PSK31 (call sign
 purposely deleted)

 CQ Moon...CQ Mars...CQ Nearby Star Systems...CQ Alien Lifeforms Or Fellow
 Men In Black...DE X Calling CQ and Standing By

 An adult beverages may have played a roll in this : )

 Tony -K2MO

 Tony, did you dF the signals to see if there were from our planet?
 Perhaps it was the ultimate DX signal.



Re: [digitalradio] Rick - PSKMail Windows server?

2009-04-01 Thread Russell Blair
Oh OK tnx sri for trying to connect, you were the first ping I have heard othe 
then VE7SUN.
 
Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


 IN GOD WE TRUST  

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net wrote:

From: Rick W mrf...@frontiernet.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Rick - PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 6:56 PM






That is why your call seemed so familiar, HI. Eventually the program 
will allow for peer to peer connects, but for now would need to switch 
to another program or mode.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Russell Blair wrote:
 Rick, I hear you station pinging are you running a server I will try 
 to connect to you ?. I also am hearing VE7SUN some times.
 


















  

Re: [digitalradio] Re: CQ Men In Black?

2009-04-01 Thread Bert Morton
H..do you suppose it has anything to do with today's date ??


 All,

 Just copied a most interesting CQ message on 20 meter PSK31 (call sign
 purposely deleted)

 CQ Moon...CQ Mars...CQ Nearby Star Systems...CQ Alien Lifeforms Or Fellow
 Men In Black...DE X Calling CQ and Standing By

 An adult beverages may have played a roll in this :  )

 Tony -K2MO


Hi Tony,

Have heard similar; never heard any replies though (yet). Oddness abounds!

73,

Bill N9DSJ










[digitalradio] Fw: INVITATION FOR HAMFEST INDIA 2009 IN BANGALORE CITY(SOUTH INDIA)

2009-04-01 Thread varadarajan G
Dr friends
All are invited for the Hamfestindia 2009 in Bangalorecity on 7  8 november 
2009
and also celebrating 50 Years of Bangalore amateur Radio club.
Expecting about 1000 delegates and some dx delegates also
Please see the web: hamfestindia.com
Regards
vu3iti (varadan)
vu3iti_vara...@yahoo.co.in

 a 


 

  




 

















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[digitalradio] Fwd: Another New Digital Mode!

2009-04-01 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I thought I would re-post this from 4/1/06, it was fun.  I even got asked to do 
a presenation on it.

Andy--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew  J. O'Brien aobri...@... 
wrote:

Just received this and thought I would pass it along, looks like a new one
to play around with!  Software is available from my site (see below).


Announcing a new digital mode that uses the sound card of your PC.  This one
is DUSK-A1. developed by Walter DU1SK.  DUSK has some fundamental
differences from the other digital modes (PSK, MFSK Olivia, etc) in that this 
mode
has been developed primarily for the low bands (80 and 160) with an emphasis
on grey-line propagated signals. DUSK-AI takes advantage of  AMI- Alternate
Mark Inversion .  Many digital hams will already be aware that AMI has a
12.5% density minimum.  The reduced density minimum of DUSK-A1 creates a
more tolerable AOA, or Angle of Arrival
A position identification technology that detects the direction of a signal
received from a transmitter at only one point. In this system, the
transmitter's location is determined from the receivers' antenna position
and the AOA of the signals that are from the antennas. In practical terms,
grey-line like conditions are  created regardless of the actual position of
the sun.

DUSK-A1 grey line performance, and sun position irrelevance ,  is also
enhanced  by the inclusion of CTA. Continuous Time Oversampling  A technique
that simplifies the job of synchronizing data generated from disparate
sampling rates. The technique resamples and synchronizes audio data as
needed, and it eliminates the substrate noise and feedthrough problems.

The beta version of DUSK-A1 also includes Enhanced Data Rates for Global
Evolution  an enhanced radio modulation technique for GSM and TDMA
(ANSI-136) networks that expands radio timeslots . The expanded time slots
also factor in enhanced daylight propagation , especially on 160 meters.
When combined with GPRS, it gives a maximum performance with narrow
bandwidth.

The software does not have full macro features or logging components as yet.
Those wishing to test this new mode may download the free software at
DUSK-A1 from http://www.obriensweb.com/dusk.htm

--- End forwarded message ---




Re: [digitalradio] CQ Men In Black?

2009-04-01 Thread Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle
Remember it's April Fools Day.

Kevin, ZL1KFM.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy obrien 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 12:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CQ Men In Black?


  On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
   All,
  
   Just copied a most interesting CQ message on 20 meter PSK31 (call sign
   purposely deleted)
  
   CQ Moon...CQ Mars...CQ Nearby Star Systems...CQ Alien Lifeforms Or Fellow
   Men In Black...DE X Calling CQ and Standing By
  
   An adult beverages may have played a roll in this : )
  
   Tony -K2MO
  
  Tony, did you dF the signals to see if there were from our planet?
  Perhaps it was the ultimate DX signal.

  

RE: [digitalradio] Fwd: Another New Digital Mode!

2009-04-01 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Does it include a busy frequency detector?

73,

 Dave, AA6YQ

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on
Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:46 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Fwd: Another New Digital Mode!


I thought I would re-post this from 4/1/06, it was fun. I even got asked to
do a presenation on it.

Andy--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew J. O'Brien aobri...@...
wrote:

Just received this and thought I would pass it along, looks like a new one
to play around with! Software is available from my site (see below).

Announcing a new digital mode that uses the sound card of your PC. This one
is DUSK-A1. developed by Walter DU1SK. DUSK has some fundamental
differences from the other digital modes (PSK, MFSK Olivia, etc) in that
this mode
has been developed primarily for the low bands (80 and 160) with an emphasis
on grey-line propagated signals. DUSK-AI takes advantage of AMI- Alternate
Mark Inversion . Many digital hams will already be aware that AMI has a
12.5% density minimum. The reduced density minimum of DUSK-A1 creates a
more tolerable AOA, or Angle of Arrival
A position identification technology that detects the direction of a signal
received from a transmitter at only one point. In this system, the
transmitter's location is determined from the receivers' antenna position
and the AOA of the signals that are from the antennas. In practical terms,
grey-line like conditions are created regardless of the actual position of
the sun.

DUSK-A1 grey line performance, and sun position irrelevance , is also
enhanced by the inclusion of CTA. Continuous Time Oversampling A technique
that simplifies the job of synchronizing data generated from disparate
sampling rates. The technique resamples and synchronizes audio data as
needed, and it eliminates the substrate noise and feedthrough problems.

The beta version of DUSK-A1 also includes Enhanced Data Rates for Global
Evolution an enhanced radio modulation technique for GSM and TDMA
(ANSI-136) networks that expands radio timeslots . The expanded time slots
also factor in enhanced daylight propagation , especially on 160 meters.
When combined with GPRS, it gives a maximum performance with narrow
bandwidth.

The software does not have full macro features or logging components as yet.
Those wishing to test this new mode may download the free software at
DUSK-A1 from http://www.obriensweb.com/dusk.htm

--- End forwarded message ---





Re: [digitalradio] Re: CQ Men In Black?

2009-04-01 Thread Ken Hucksoll
I have seen this guy several times on 20psk...nice signal into NW TX...if I 
remember correct he used a call...73 Ken N5LYJ/5



--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Bert Morton hamradio...@vermontel.net wrote:

From: Bert Morton hamradio...@vermontel.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: CQ Men In Black?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 7:06 PM












H..do you suppose it has anything to do with today's date ??





 All,



 Just copied a most interesting CQ message on 20 meter PSK31 (call sign

 purposely deleted)



 CQ Moon...CQ Mars...CQ Nearby Star Systems...CQ Alien Lifeforms Or Fellow

 Men In Black...DE X Calling CQ and Standing By



 An adult beverages may have played a roll in this :  )



 Tony -K2MO





Hi Tony,



Have heard similar; never heard any replies though (yet). Oddness abounds!



73,



Bill N9DSJ



 - - - - - -




 

  




 

















  

Re: [digitalradio] CQ Men In Black?

2009-04-01 Thread Brent Gourley
but who does s/he think is the fool ??

;)

KE4MZ, Brent
Dothan, AL
bg...@comcast.net
www.wb4zpi.org

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey  Rochelle 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 7:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CQ Men In Black?


  Remember it's April Fools Day.

  Kevin, ZL1KFM.

- Original Message - 
From: Andy obrien 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CQ Men In Black?


On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
 All,

 Just copied a most interesting CQ message on 20 meter PSK31 (call sign
 purposely deleted)

 CQ Moon...CQ Mars...CQ Nearby Star Systems...CQ Alien Lifeforms Or Fellow
 Men In Black...DE X Calling CQ and Standing By

 An adult beverages may have played a roll in this : )

 Tony -K2MO

Tony, did you dF the signals to see if there were from our planet?
Perhaps it was the ultimate DX signal.







[digitalradio] Re: CQ Men In Black?

2009-04-01 Thread Tooner
It's WB0LCC.  He's on pretty regular, and one of those strong signals to my 
QTH.  Ruins my waterfall.  But an okay guy.  A goof to be sure!  Short QSO 
about his signal strength in January.  We both went down to QRP and worked 599. 
 You'll see him again.

f, k2ncc



[digitalradio] PROPOSED RULE MAKING AND ORDER

2009-04-01 Thread John Becker, WØJAB


NOTICE OF PROPOSED RULE MAKING AND ORDER
Adopted: April 1 2009
Comment Date: 60 days after publication in the Federal Register
Reply Comment Date: 75 days after publication in the Federal Register
By the Commission: Notice of Proposed Rule making

1000. A: No radio system owner, or radio system operator, or person or
persons acting on the direction, or suggestion, or supervision, of any radio
system owner, or radio system operator, may try, attempt to try, or make or
make any attempt to try, to comprehend or understand, any or all, in whole
or in part, of the herein mentioned Federal Communication Commission
Regulations, except as authorized by the Administrator or an agent appointed
by, or under the supervision of, the Administrator.

1000. B: If any radio system owner, or radio system operator, or group of
associated radio system owners or radio system operators, becomes aware of,
or realizes, or detects, or discovers, or finds, that he, or she, or they,
are, or have been beginning to, or are about to understand the Federal
Communication Commission Rules or Regulations or any of its provisions, (he)
(she) (they) must immediately, within three (3) days of such discovery or
awareness, notify, in writing, the Administrator.

1000. C: Upon receipt of any such above notice of impending comprehension,
the Administrator shall promptly cause said Federal Communication Commission
Rules and/or Regulations to be rewritten in such a form and manner as to
completely and totally eliminate any further possibility of comprehension by
any radio system owner, or radio system operator, or person or persons
acting on the direction, or suggestion, or supervision, of any radio system
owner or radio system operator.

1000. D: The Administrator may, at his or her option, require any radio
system owner, or radio system operator, or person or persons acting on the
direction, or suggestion, or supervision, of any radio system owner, or
radio system operator, who commit(s), or attempt(s) to commit, or exhibit(s)
any propensity to commit, the offense of understanding or comprehending the
Federal Communication Commission Rules and/or Regulations, or any part
thereof, to attend courses of remedial instruction in said Rules and/or
Regulations, until such time as said radio system owner, or radio system
operator, or person or persons acting on the direction, or suggestion, or
supervision, of radio system owner, or radio system operator, demonstrate
that they are no longer capable of exhibiting any comprehension or
understanding of anything.

Comment period: Persons wishing to comment upon said NPRM have until April
19, 2009 to send in comments regarding the above NPRM to the aforementioned
agency, in triple quadruplicate, typed, certified, registered, no carbons,
initialed and notarized with a photo identification authorized by the
Homeland Security Agency, including original radio system license or
licenses, medical certificate, three letters of recommendation from
employer, police chief and FBI signifying no felony or misdemeanor
convictions, poor work habits or personal disgusting habits which would
offend the Administrator, including but not limited to: smoking, drinking,
profanity, watching R rated movies, owning cable TV, non-church attendance,
voting independent, listening to rap music, joining trade associations,
speaking to attorneys, or talking snippy to anyone in Gettysburg.

Send comments to:
Administrator
Federal Communications Commission
Docket #: 24857-23.45.3562.A5PU.(6)b
Attn: Past Due Comments
125 E SW St. NW, E, S
Big Gray Building
Third Floor, Second Door on Right
Desk 4, In-Basket 7
Near Wastebasket 99-8877
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Include $29.95 for shipping and handling payable to: Administrator