[digitalradio] ALE400 - repetitive disconnexion
Hello Thomas, When you have had it occur 40-50 times(with 20 over sig.) ..then tell me its not major. As this frequency (40-50 times) is not normal, I think there is another problem. Hypothesis: I suppose that you want to do a QSO, have clicked on ARQ FAE and CQ and a Ham has done the connection with your station. Note: if you are the Master (the one who initiates the QSO), it is better to check Master in the Mode box, this to come back to your initial AF frequency and to avoid a drift in frequency. I list below the possible problems: * sound card sampling frequency not adjusted...solution: Adjustments menu, click on Determination..., * AF level too low (10 %) as displayed in a caption to the left of the Mode panel: you must target about 30 to 50 % (not critical) using the mixer. Possibly , you can sample in 16 bits (you will win about 2 or 3 bits in fact due to noise): Adjustments menu, click on AF level However, the most robust, CPU economic and simple is to work on 8 bits. * your computer must be fast (1000 MHz) not to introduce big CPU delays, * to switch XCVR, prefer direct control or CAT system. With VOX, the introduced delay (VOX+XCVR) must be checked (above 130 ms there is a problem for ALE400), * of course, the AF level to the XCVR must be adjusted (not to overload the XCVR or not to be close to the noise), but it is not different from any other mode. * Possibly, unclick the AFC (in case of big QRM (RTTY for example) on your frequency). For procedures, refer to: http://f6cte.free.fr/ALE_and_ALE400_easy_with_Multipsk.doc http://f6cte.free.fr/The_ARQ_FAE_beacon_easy_with_Multipsk.doc I hope this helps a bit. Note: about this problem, it would be better to continue on the Multipsk Yahoo group. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Thomas Carswell Jr. kt4w...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 Trust me pal... been using ALE400 from the start...the outa-sync issue is not just a one time thing... and not just on QRP. Im a big fan of ALE400 and MultiPSK(reg)...BUT It IS a major issue. When you have had it occur 40-50 times(with 20 over sig.) ..then tell me its not major. I have had 100+ QSO's in this modewith 10-12 diff. ops. BTW..the new PSK-Packet has the same problem. KT4WO On 8/30/09, John Bradley jbrad...@sasktel.net wrote: I have brought this up to Patrick a few timesI asked for a slottime or some random timer... I think this would solve the problem. This is a MAJOR ISSUE with ALE400. Until this is fixed...ALE400 will never become mainstream I have been fighting this issuse sense ALE400 came out. So far...he has not worked on that..maybe you will have better luck getting him to address this.??!!??! !?? Maybe now that someone other than me and Dave sees this is a problem, Patrick will fix it??? This is not a MAJOR issue.. Tony , K2M) and I were testing this and found that while we could get ALE400 out of sync under very weak signals . we both had to go QRP, by not typing anything into the buffer for a moment got the signal back without further collisions. Seemed to work well for us. Both using the latest (13th) test version of multipsk, not sure if that has any effect, found at http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_13_08_2009.ZIP http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_13_08_2009.ZIP john VE5MU Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] PSK-PACKET anyone?
Hello Andy, Just back from holiday, which version do I need for PSK-packet? I am Click on the button Packet+APRS, then PSK (BPSK in fact). 3 speeds are proposed (63 (new), 250 (new) and the standard 1200 bauds for satellite. It is exactly the same working as FSK Packet, except the modulation. However for the same speed (1200 for example), PSK is better than FSK in term of minimum S/N. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien andrewob...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSK-PACKET anyone? Just back from holiday, which version do I need for PSK-packet? I am running 4.15 and do not see it. Andy K3UK On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:46 AM, kt4w...@gmail.com wrote: MultiPSK... and its Packet but using BPSK63/250 instead of 300b FSK Trip - KT4WO - Original Message - From: Phil Williams To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSK-PACKET anyone? What app are you running for this mode? philw de ka1gmn kn On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:57 PM, kt4w...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone up for some PSK-PACKET?? 63b on 10.141.5 1650hz 21:00 Easttime Trip - KT4WO -- Andy Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links
[digitalradio] New release (4.15) of MULTIPSK - MIL-STD-188-110A
New release (4.15) of MULTIPSK Pour les francophones: la version française de ce message se trouve sur mon site (http://f6cte.free.fr). Il suffit de cliquer sur le lien Principales modifications (courriel avertissant de la sortie de la nouvelle version). Hello to all Ham and SWL, The new release of MultiPSK (4.15) is on my Web site (http://f6cte.free.fr). The main mirror site is Earl's, N8KBR: http://www.eqth.info/multipsk/index.html (click on United States Download Site). Another mirror site isTerry's: http://g90swl.co.uk/multipsk/ Multispk associated to Clock are freeware programs but with functions submitted to a licence (by user key). The main modifications of MULTIPSK 4.15 are the following: 1) Decoding of the MIL-STD-188-110A (110A) + 110A beacon This mode (MIL-STD-188-110A/B) is named also FED-STD-1052 or STANAG 4539. It is used mainly by professionals (the text being mostly encrypted) but also, rarely, by Hams. The 75 bps sub-mode in TX (beacon) is proposed by Multipsk. Several sub modes (75 to 4800 bps) and two different interleaving (short and long) are proposed. All modes are fixed frequency, except a 75 bps (bits per second) sub-mode which is transmitted in frequency hopping. It is not decoded in this soft. The receiver should be in USB mode. The bandwidth must extend from 300 to 3300 Hz (at -30 dB) with a relatively flat frequency response between 600 and 3000 Hz. The central frequency is, in this case, equal to 1800Hz. It can be selected a 1500 Hz central frequency for Ham receivers. The soft automatically decodes the speed (75, 150, 600, 1200, 2400 or 4800 bps) and the interleaver (short or long), in different character formats. The radio-amateur frequency proposed for this mode is 14104 KHz (adjusted on the transceiver). Important: in USA, 110A text transmission is forbidden. PSE, check if it is allowed in your country. This mode is available for licencied copies, only (otherwise, the decoding is stopped after 5 minutes). However the 75 bps sub-mode in format 8N1 (RX/TX) is free. See specifications further on. 2) RS ID, Call ID (Prop ID) These identifiers are now permanently monitored in background, by default (the CPU load being weak). The management of these identifiers has been improved. For Call ID and Prop ID (Propagation ID), it is proposed four frequencies bandwiths for transmission and monitoring. 3590, 7040, 10148, 14075 KHz (to adjust on the transceiver). All the minimum AF band, i.e. from 200 Hz to 2500 Hz can be used. These frequencies can be favourably scaned (Transceiver button). http://f6cte.free.fr/The_RS_ID_easy_with_Multipsk.doc http://f6cte.free.fr/The_Call_ID_and_Prop_ID_easy_with_Multipsk.doc 3) Improvements of - the SdR mode and frequency management, - the ARQ FAE mode (in ALE or ALE400), - the JT65, GMDSS and SELCAL modes. 110A specifications: Baud rate: 2400. Modulation: 8PSK (not differential, the exact phase being determined through known data) with a central frequency of 1800 Hz Reception mode: USB Character set: different synchronous or asynchronous formats are proposed (5 ITA2, 7 bits ASCII or 8 bits (ASCII+ANSI)) Shape of pulse: raised cosine Bandwidth: about 3 KHz (300 to 3300 Hz) Demodulation: coherent Synchronization: automatic using the known data Convolution code: except in 4800 bps, yes. The constraint lenght is equal to 7 bits, Interleaving: except in 4800 bps, yes. Two interleavings are proposed: short or long. However, it is expected the possibility not to use interleaving. Pmean/Ppeak: about 0.76 (specific to Multipsk in TX) Lowest S/N (on Multipsk): + 4 dB in 75 bps mode (first decodings at +1.5 dB) and + 10 dB in 2400 bps (the signal to noise ratio must be, in general, very good, to be able to decode this mode, i.e excellent at 2400 bps and good at 75 bps). Each frame contains a synchronization preamble phase where the sub-mode is defined, a data phase where the unknown data is transmitted (mixed with known data to follow the transmission characteristics) , an End of Message (EOM) phase and a final flushing phase (to finish de-interleaving and de-convolution operations). An adaptative equalization is required at this speed (2400 bauds). 73 Patrick
Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
I think most would interpret Only if they are ...well...forget it On 8/31/09, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: Trip, Trust me pal... been using ALE400 from the start...the outa-sync issue is not just a one time thing... and not just on QRP. Im a big fan of ALE400 and MultiPSK(reg) ...BUT,,, , It IS a major issue. When you have had it occur 40-50 times(with 20 over sig.) ..then tell me its not major. I think most would interpret when you have it occur 40-50 times with 20 over signal as the number of out-of-sync collisions that occurred during just one of your ALE-400 contacts and not the number of times overall. Understand if you'd rather not discuss it further. Hope you're able to get it working; let us know what you find. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: kt4w...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 ***If I'm not mistaken, you referred to the sync issue as a major problem that happens 40-to-50 times during a QSO with S-9 plus signals both ways*** 40 to 50 times during a QSO!!..WOW... Damn..I think If it occured that many times during 1 QSO..I would give up.. Dont ya think Look guys...Its MUST me something I'm doing wrong or my equipment..I mean...I have only been using this mode from the time it came out... and on no less than 3 or 4 diff. radios, bands and puters.. With no less than 10-15 other users. I have ONLY been on HF digi for JUST a few days ...Got my ticket from that Cracker Jack Box Its me, its not really happining.. I mean.. the hundreds of other users surely would have found this problemRight?? Just let it go...I have. End of thread. 73 de Trip - KT4WO - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 Trip, Its not a unique problem. KT4WO Well it does seem to be unique problem because we haven't heard from anyone else with major sync issues (yet). Your comments will hopefully, bring them out of the woodwork. In my experience and in the experience of others, ALE-400 sync issues happen occasionally and are almost always associated with weak signals. As the band fades, the mode dips below it's useful threshold and loses sync. At that point, it's time to quit or switch bands. Trying to continue after that results in a high number of collisions / sync issues because signals are just too weak. If I'm not mistaken, you referred to the sync issue as a major problem that happens 40-to-50 times during a QSO with S-9 plus signals both ways. That certainly seems like a unique situation, but without knowing the circumstances at the time, it's hard to tell what's really going on. We would certainly appreciate a more detailed description of the band conditions when the mode lost sync that excessive number of times. For example; was there heavy QSB, QRM, QRN? Does it ever happen on a clear channel? Does it happen on one band more than others? Does it happen on one PC more than another. You're welcome to sked with me anytime Trip. I'm always on in the evenings starting around 2300z. I run a 5 element 20 meter mono-band Yagi @ 60ft. I'm sure we could work providing the propagation Gods cooperate. Thanks, Tony -K2MO Its not a unique problem. KT4WO On 8/31/09, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: Trip, Sounds like you have a unique problem with ALE-400. Hope you find out what it is and please let us know when you do. Sorry we couldn't help you. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Thomas Carswell Jr. kt4w...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 w4pgh k3gau n4wi wa9hcz ni9y n9fdf k9vu wb8rol ai4cm Thats just the ones in my log on laptop(im at work) Most of those I have worked at least 3-5 times, somealot more(k3gau,w4pgh) No less than 8 diff. soundcards..from onboard to one I spent almost 100 bucks on...lol AgainI love MultiPSK...I almost never run any other digi-ware...well...FLDigi when I run Puppy. MultiPSK is the ONLY digi software I have paid for...and that says alot for me... Im cheap!!...LOL If it just had a delay kick in when it losses sync...then it could re-sync. One gud static crash and it can lose sync. Look...Im not trin' to be a prick... but we have tried everything...been there, done that kinda thing... Me and Bill gave up on it and now use Olivia or DominoEXmost of the time(75%) it works fine... but that 25% was just too much... and I didnt keep records..it may not be 25%..but it was enuff to frustrate(sp?) us I think if that ONE issue was solved..ALE/FAE400 would be the BEST error free soundcard mode out there!!
Re: [digitalradio] ALE400
Only if they are ...well...forget it Cat got your tongue Trip? Tony -K2MO I think most would interpret Only if they are ...well...forget it On 8/31/09, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: Trip, Trust me pal... been using ALE400 from the start...the outa-sync issue is not just a one time thing... and not just on QRP. Im a big fan of ALE400 and MultiPSK(reg) ...BUT,,, , It IS a major issue. When you have had it occur 40-50 times(with 20 over sig.) ..then tell me its not major. I think most would interpret when you have it occur 40-50 times with 20 over signal as the number of out-of-sync collisions that occurred during just one of your ALE-400 contacts and not the number of times overall. Understand if you'd rather not discuss it further. Hope you're able to get it working; let us know what you find. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: kt4w...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 ***If I'm not mistaken, you referred to the sync issue as a major problem that happens 40-to-50 times during a QSO with S-9 plus signals both ways*** 40 to 50 times during a QSO!!..WOW... Damn..I think If it occured that many times during 1 QSO..I would give up.. Dont ya think Look guys...Its MUST me something I'm doing wrong or my equipment..I mean...I have only been using this mode from the time it came out... and on no less than 3 or 4 diff. radios, bands and puters.. With no less than 10-15 other users. I have ONLY been on HF digi for JUST a few days ...Got my ticket from that Cracker Jack Box Its me, its not really happining.. I mean.. the hundreds of other users surely would have found this problemRight?? Just let it go...I have. End of thread. 73 de Trip - KT4WO - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 Trip, Its not a unique problem. KT4WO Well it does seem to be unique problem because we haven't heard from anyone else with major sync issues (yet). Your comments will hopefully, bring them out of the woodwork. In my experience and in the experience of others, ALE-400 sync issues happen occasionally and are almost always associated with weak signals. As the band fades, the mode dips below it's useful threshold and loses sync. At that point, it's time to quit or switch bands. Trying to continue after that results in a high number of collisions / sync issues because signals are just too weak. If I'm not mistaken, you referred to the sync issue as a major problem that happens 40-to-50 times during a QSO with S-9 plus signals both ways. That certainly seems like a unique situation, but without knowing the circumstances at the time, it's hard to tell what's really going on. We would certainly appreciate a more detailed description of the band conditions when the mode lost sync that excessive number of times. For example; was there heavy QSB, QRM, QRN? Does it ever happen on a clear channel? Does it happen on one band more than others? Does it happen on one PC more than another. You're welcome to sked with me anytime Trip. I'm always on in the evenings starting around 2300z. I run a 5 element 20 meter mono-band Yagi @ 60ft. I'm sure we could work providing the propagation Gods cooperate. Thanks, Tony -K2MO Its not a unique problem. KT4WO On 8/31/09, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: Trip, Sounds like you have a unique problem with ALE-400. Hope you find out what it is and please let us know when you do. Sorry we couldn't help you. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Thomas Carswell Jr. kt4w...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 w4pgh k3gau n4wi wa9hcz ni9y n9fdf k9vu wb8rol ai4cm Thats just the ones in my log on laptop(im at work) Most of those I have worked at least 3-5 times, somealot more(k3gau,w4pgh) No less than 8 diff. soundcards..from onboard to one I spent almost 100 bucks on...lol AgainI love MultiPSK...I almost never run any other digi-ware...well...FLDigi when I run Puppy. MultiPSK is the ONLY digi software I have paid for...and that says alot for me... Im cheap!!...LOL If it just had a delay kick in when it losses sync...then it could re-sync. One gud static crash and it can lose sync. Look...Im not trin' to be a prick... but we have tried everything...been there, done that kinda thing... Me and Bill gave up on it and now use Olivia or DominoEXmost of the time(75%) it works fine... but that 25% was just too much... and I didnt keep records..it may not be 25%..but it was enuff to frustrate(sp?) us
Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
Danny, What I dont understand, with all the reported contacts here on this group, why I am not seeing ANY of them on the spot network? I would gladly give some of them a listen, if they showed up Danny Douglas N7DC That's a good question... I've noticed 'exotic mode' cluster spots on occasion and I've sent some over the years with Mixw's DX Cluster feature. The response is usually less than stellar. I use this reflector on occasion to spot QRV notes (with Andy's permission) for the purpose of testing less familiar modes like ALE-400. The audience is much smaller than the clusters, but it's members are of course, geared toward digital. Andy's sked page is perfect for digital mode skeds / QRV posts, but it sees little use. I can't figure out why that is with the number of members we have. http://www.obriensweb.com/sked I'm there now at 2250z if you'd like to sked. I'll be on for a few hours. Tony -K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
Where is there Tony? HI. And I have, on average, 3 sites gathering spots here, and using SpotCollector which has almost every mode known to man, listed, so its not like they just disappear on this end. Looks like the special digital modes simply are not being passed thru the network. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice) Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk dxandt...@yahoogroups.com Moderator Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC Danny, What I dont understand, with all the reported contacts here on this group, why I am not seeing ANY of them on the spot network? I would gladly give some of them a listen, if they showed up Danny Douglas N7DC That's a good question... I've noticed 'exotic mode' cluster spots on occasion and I've sent some over the years with Mixw's DX Cluster feature. The response is usually less than stellar. I use this reflector on occasion to spot QRV notes (with Andy's permission) for the purpose of testing less familiar modes like ALE-400. The audience is much smaller than the clusters, but it's members are of course, geared toward digital. Andy's sked page is perfect for digital mode skeds / QRV posts, but it sees little use. I can't figure out why that is with the number of members we have. http://www.obriensweb.com/sked I'm there now at 2250z if you'd like to sked. I'll be on for a few hours. Tony -K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
Danny, I think they are not being posted/spotted. I have always assumed, perhaps wrongly, that serious DXers and cluster owners frown on something like K3UK spotting N7DC because you are not really DX. Thus even though you might be using an interesting digital mode , I would not spot you on a real DX cluster. If you were ET2US I would spot you, not N7DC. If we all started spotting routine callsigns and their digital modes on a regular cluster, Spotcollector would indeed be the best tool. Andy On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:16 PM, DANNY DOUGLASn...@comcast.net wrote: Where is there Tony? HI. And I have, on average, 3 sites gathering spots here, and using SpotCollector which has almost every mode known to man, listed, so its not like they just disappear on this end. Looks like the special digital modes simply are not being passed thru the network. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice) Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk dxandt...@yahoogroups.com Moderator Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC Danny, What I dont understand, with all the reported contacts here on this group, why I am not seeing ANY of them on the spot network? I would gladly give some of them a listen, if they showed up Danny Douglas N7DC That's a good question... I've noticed 'exotic mode' cluster spots on occasion and I've sent some over the years with Mixw's DX Cluster feature. The response is usually less than stellar. I use this reflector on occasion to spot QRV notes (with Andy's permission) for the purpose of testing less familiar modes like ALE-400. The audience is much smaller than the clusters, but it's members are of course, geared toward digital. Andy's sked page is perfect for digital mode skeds / QRV posts, but it sees little use. I can't figure out why that is with the number of members we have. http://www.obriensweb.com/sked I'm there now at 2250z if you'd like to sked. I'll be on for a few hours. Tony -K2MO -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
That me be true, but I have seen several stateside MFSK and many PSK spots on the clusters. The next thought is a digital cluster which could be used with spot collector? Those that then wanted any digital modes/states or otherwise, could load that one up and see the spots, and they would not particular leak out to other clusters. I simply do not have room on the screen for even more windows. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice) Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk dxandt...@yahoogroups.com Moderator Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice) Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk dxandt...@yahoogroups.com Moderator Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC Danny, I think they are not being posted/spotted. I have always assumed, perhaps wrongly, that serious DXers and cluster owners frown on something like K3UK spotting N7DC because you are not really DX. Thus even though you might be using an interesting digital mode , I would not spot you on a real DX cluster. If you were ET2US I would spot you, not N7DC. If we all started spotting routine callsigns and their digital modes on a regular cluster, Spotcollector would indeed be the best tool. Andy On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:16 PM, DANNY DOUGLASn...@comcast.net wrote: Where is there Tony? HI. And I have, on average, 3 sites gathering spots here, and using SpotCollector which has almost every mode known to man, listed, so its not like they just disappear on this end. Looks like the special digital modes simply are not being passed thru the network. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice) Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk dxandt...@yahoogroups.com Moderator Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC Danny, What I dont understand, with all the reported contacts here on this group, why I am not seeing ANY of them on the spot network? I would gladly give some of them a listen, if they showed up Danny Douglas N7DC That's a good question... I've noticed 'exotic mode' cluster spots on occasion and I've sent some over the years with Mixw's DX Cluster feature. The response is usually less than stellar. I use this reflector on occasion to spot QRV notes (with Andy's permission) for the purpose of testing less familiar modes like ALE-400. The audience is much smaller than the clusters, but it's members are of course, geared toward digital. Andy's sked page is perfect for digital mode skeds / QRV posts, but it sees little use. I can't figure out why that is with the number of members we have. http://www.obriensweb.com/sked I'm there now at 2250z if you'd like to sked. I'll be on for a few hours. Tony -K2MO -- Andy
Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
Exactly what we need. Either would do well with Spotcollector, but I dont know about those who use other spotting sofware at their own station (such as MIXW, etc.) I am just now getting into using MultiPSK and it works in conjunction with the DXLab stuff, so a lot of potential customers there, as well as those who use WnWarbler. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice) Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk dxandt...@yahoogroups.com Moderator Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC I ran such a cluster for a few years , before I opened the sked page. I was running WinCluster. I do have the bandwidth to run a cluster again but want to avoid the cost of some of the better cluster software. It would need to be a digital cluster that does not propagate spots to other clusters. Either that or have something like Hamspots' present cluster/pskreporter page configurable via Telnet to Spotcollector. That way, digital mode enthusiasts could take full advantage of Spotcollector's filters and collect from Hamspots PLUS the general DX Cluster world Andy K3UK On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:30 PM, DANNY DOUGLASn...@comcast.net wrote: That me be true, but I have seen several stateside MFSK and many PSK spots on the clusters. The next thought is a digital cluster which could be used with spot collector? Those that then wanted any digital modes/states or otherwise, could load that one up and see the spots, and they would not particular leak out to other clusters. I simply do not have room on the screen for even more windows. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice) Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk dxandt...@yahoogroups.com Moderator Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice) Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk dxandt...@yahoogroups.com Moderator Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC Danny, I think they are not being posted/spotted. I have always assumed, perhaps wrongly, that serious DXers and cluster owners frown on something like K3UK spotting N7DC because you are not really DX. Thus even though you might be using an interesting digital mode , I would not spot you on a real DX cluster. If you were ET2US I would spot you, not N7DC. If we all started spotting routine callsigns and their digital modes on a regular cluster, Spotcollector would indeed be the best tool. Andy On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:16 PM, DANNY DOUGLASn...@comcast.net wrote: Where is there Tony? HI. And I have, on average, 3 sites gathering spots here, and using SpotCollector which has almost every mode known to man, listed, so its not like they just disappear on this end. Looks like the special digital modes simply are not being passed thru the network. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice) Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk dxandt...@yahoogroups.com Moderator Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC Danny, What I dont understand, with all the reported contacts here on this group, why I am not seeing ANY of them on the spot network? I would gladly give some of them a listen, if they showed up Danny Douglas N7DC That's a good question... I've noticed 'exotic mode' cluster spots on occasion and I've sent
[digitalradio] Software for new digital mode ops
We have had a few new members join and ask about software. Digitalradio suggests Digipan (PSK31 and PSK63 only) Winwarbler (PSK 31/63 and RTTY) DM780 (multiple digital modes) Multipsk (multiple digital modes) FLdigi ((multiple digital modes) Windows OR Linux . PSKMAIL (PSK with email) Andy K3UK
