RE: [digitalradio] Need your help picking HF radio.
TS-480SAT for me, for QRP the IC-703. Simon Brown http://sdr-radio.com -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Wilson I'd have to go with the Yaesu ft-857D, it does it all with a small footprint, reasonable price and very dependable...73, es merry christmas...Alan
[digitalradio] Re: Techs on HF digital
I'd like to say that I can't agree with Danny's comments any more. I compare it to this: Imagine a DX station @ one end of a football field with the rest of us trying to work him at the other end by yelling our callsigns. The DX is able to able to pick out a callsign and work them. Suddenly, one guy shows up with a bullhorn. Then quickly others follow suit. After awhile 9 out of 10 of us use amps. Guess what, most are back on the same level again and having just as much time in their perceived need to bust the pileup in the first call. First does this follow with using the minimum amount of power necessary to carry on communications?? I think not, everyone was able to do it without a bullhorn. I've heard arguments from others that feel differently that it was necessary...they were able to get thru on the 1st call weren't they?? I've worked more than 180 DXCC entities...all on 100W or less with simple wire antennas. It can be done...no you won't always bust the pileup the first time, or get a 59+20 over signal report. There is a time and a place for using an amp. It won't help you talk any farther if propagation will not support the distance. I think more needs to be done about when and when not to use an amp. Digital modes in RF power have an advantage over SSB, generally you need less RF power. Use it, find other methods to making contacts. Improve your antenna is one that comes to mind first. There are other ways like improving your communications skills, or equipment like filtering. Then learn when you should use an amp, or when it isn't necessary. In comparison, (as I'm sure many of you know, but there may be some who don't), if you were to increase your RF power from 100W to 400W, that's 6dB1 S-unit, in many cases is that going to break the bank on making the contact or not? I don't think so, not unless you're rising above the receiving stations noise level. I know of some hams that as soon as they turn on the rigs, the amplifier goes on. I hear hams that since they have their RF gain turned up they can't hear another station unless he's 20 over since they want perfect armchair static free copy. Again, especially with digital modes, 100W or more is not always necessary. My 1st PSK31 contact was to New Zealand w/ 5W. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, DANNY DOUGLAS n...@... wrote: I do not understand the instance of 200 or more watts. Most gear made in the past, and even the majority of rigs made today, run 100 watts. Lets keep it to that, or lower, to avoid pushing everyone into thinking they need an amp for digital modes. It becomes a rat race, with the biggest rat wanting the highest power, and then still leaving off those who have neither the money, nor the QTH where an amp could be use . Level the playing field for these guys and dont encourage them to use more power than necessary to make a QSO. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice). Short stints at: DA/PA/SU/HZ/7X/DU CR9/7Y/KH7/5A/GW/GM/F Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do. Moderator DXandTALK http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Rik van Riel To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: Gary Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital On 12/15/2009 12:55 PM, Gary wrote: I thought I'd run something up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes: I would imagine, the license limitations would have to state something like a maximum of 300 baud and 500 Hz bandwidth with a 200 watt power limit. There may be other limitations that might be nice to toss into the mix but this is a starting point for discussion. IIRC the Tech license pool does not include all the questions about RF safety, nor about use of the ALC, etc... I believe the power limit and frequencies HF use by Tech licensed amateurs should be low. Maybe 10-20W power limit, in a few limited frequency ranges (staying away from the most crowded bands). I could see adding 30m digital privileges to Tech, maybe 80m too, but 20, 40 and 15m already have too many people who don't know their what their ALC readout means :) -- All rights reversed.
[digitalradio] Re: Need your help picking HF radio.
I've been running the IC-7200 for several months now and love it. The twin pass band filter and narrow filters work great and allow me to block out everything above and below the desired signal on the waterfal. The rig is simple to use but has a lot of great features. It's build like a tank and you can even take it in the field on a rainy day and not worry about getting it wet. It's also full duty cycle so I never have to worry about running more than 50w on digital (which I seldom do with the exception of MT63 and Olivia if conditions are really poor). Even at a high duty cycle, the rig never gets very hot to the touch. THe front firing speaker is another thing I like for field ops under noisy conditions but here in the shack I have a good bookshelf speaker plugged in. I can't say much bad about the rig other than I wish it had the standard 6 pin din connector. It has the 13 pin Icom jack for data but also has a USB connector. The last time I looked it's $900 on AES. Be forewarned, though... no 2m/70cm, no auto tuner and no FM. It's strictly 160-6 SSB, AM, CW, RTTY. I have the rig paired with the Signalink USB and an LDG Z-11 Pro tuner to either my G5RV or 66' doublet -Dave, KB3FXI --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kd7jeh kd7...@... wrote: Merry Christmas to the Group, I am looking to buy another HF radio for PSK/digital. I am asking what features I look for and why. Next question, what radio offers more bang for the money and why? I would like to buy new but will consider a used one of older model not in current production. Kd7jeh
[digitalradio] Fw: [IN_Foxhunt] Fw: [IN_DHS_ARDC] ILLEGAL RADIO OPERATERS
Any1 out in the BedFord, In area have APRS? Any1 out in the BedFord, In area set up to do some good ol fashioned Foxhunting? Any1 out in the BedFord, In area have a 2m beam they can aim at these turkeys to get a beam heading on them? Any1 out in the BedFord, In area set up for Finger Printing on 2m? Like my late maternal grandmother used to say, Give them enough rope they will hang them selfs. 1 of my favorite sayings is ( this is for those foul mouthed radio prirates out there near Bedford. In) What goes around, comes around, make sure your sins find you out, because you will get yours. They can run, but they can't hide. Somebody out there knows who this turkeys are where they are. Maybe you can solve a mystery (Robert Stacks, host of Unsolved Mysteries). 73/75 de ka9jwx, Paul Lewis Webster SKCC #5322 John 3:16 Proud member of the; ARRL NRA Handihams LiveFreeUSA 60 Plus (even tho I am younger then 60) Long:-87.334L (-87*20'3W) Lat:41.4967N (41*29'48N) EN61HL Merrillville, Indiana, 46410-3503, USA ;-) --- On Fri, 12/25/09, customgraphicsinc! renee.tho...@mchsi.com wrote: From: customgraphicsinc! renee.tho...@mchsi.com Subject: [IN_Foxhunt] Fw: [IN_DHS_ARDC] ILLEGAL RADIO OPERATERS To: in_foxh...@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 10:55 PM relay :) - Original Message - From: mike k To: IN_DHS_ARDC@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 11:48 PM Subject: [IN_DHS_ARDC] ILLEGAL RADIO OPERATERS ON THE NIGHT OF DECEMBER 25 AROUND 11:30 PM.I HEARD A GROUP OF PEOPLE TALKING ON 144.114 2 METER FM IN THE BEDFORD AREA.THEY ARE USING VERY FOUL TALK.AND USING CB CALLS LIKE GERONIMO APPLE BIG RED CRAZY8.DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHO THE ARE OR EXACTLY WHERE THEIR AT.BUT LOOKING FOR SOME HELP IN CATCHING THEM.
[digitalradio] TS-440 sale ending later today Dec 26
FYI, my trusty old TS-440 is for sale http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130352892583ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT I thought I would selfishly mention it again, it has been a great digital mode radio for me but it is not often turned on since I bought a TS-2000 Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Re: TS-440 sale ending later today Dec 26
I should add.. between a few local errands , in and out of the shack at times. Andy --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, obrienaj k3uka...@... wrote: FYI, my trusty old TS-440 is for sale http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130352892583ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT I thought I would selfishly mention it again, it has been a great digital mode radio for me but it is not often turned on since I bought a TS-2000 Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] QRV 14074 (plus 1000 Hz) most of Boxing Day
I will be QRV 14074 USB , plus 1000 Hz on the waterfal, most of today 26/12/09 with RS-ID active. Hope to run in to you in whatever digital mode you choose. I will be in PSK63 unless someone switches me via RS-ID, glad to work you in any mode. I am also on our sked page http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/ Andy K3UK FN02 Fredonia, NY.
[digitalradio] Puppy Linux anyone ?
Is anyone in the group using puppy linux, I would like to ask some question about installing it on a hard drive that also has windows XP on it. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693
Re: [digitalradio] Need your help picking HF radio.
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:07:39 -0700, Alan Wilson ke4...@gmail.com said: I'd have to go with the Yaesu ft-857D, it does it all with a small footprint, reasonable price and very dependable... I have one of those and I like it for many reasons, but it's not a very good rig for digital modes. Some issues that come to mind: * DSP is at the audio stage, useless for digital. * Narrow IF filters (300 and 500 Hz) are extra. It can be frustrating to operate on HF without one of these. * TCXO is extra (but standard with the FT-897D, IIRC). * Minimum tuning step is 10Hz. * Much CAT functionality is undocumented by Yaesu, though HB9DRV and co. must have discovered all of it by now. * Reference oscillator is mounted behind the rear vent/heatsink and is therefore in the draft of air from the cooling fans. Fans always activate on transmit so you will drift, even for short transmissions and with the TCXO installed, which is most annoying on VHF/UHF. Can't blame Yaesu much about this though, it's a small rig. IMHO not worth considering for digital modes unless you _must_ have HF, 2m and 70cm in a compact radio. But then something like the IC-7000 is much better for that. And if you only want HF you have many more options. -- 73, Stelios, M0GLD.
[digitalradio] Re: dummies guide
Yes, a good idea David. I will work on it. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD wd4...@... wrote: hi andy looking forward to a PSKREPORTER/MULTIPSK FOR DUMMIES. any plans ? david/wd4kpd
[digitalradio] Dxing and long winded digital ops
I'm all for a good digital mode rag-chew...but allow me to be the Grinch on Boxing Day and gripe about digital ops that take FOREVER to sign-off when working DXpeditions and the like. Today when trying to work a needed entity , and with a fading band, I had to patiently wait my turn while others that had got through were sending such none sense as how many QSO's they had had in the particular digital mode and the exact time and date they had logged the QSO. Do we really need to know when you LOGGED the station you were JUST working? I did work the DX, but I can complain too, right ? Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Dxing and long winded digital ops
obrienaj wrote: I'm all for a good digital mode rag-chew...but allow me to be the Grinch on Boxing Day and gripe about digital ops that take FOREVER to sign-off when working DXpeditions and the like. Today when trying to work a needed entity , and with a fading band, I had to patiently wait my turn while others that had got through were sending such none sense as how many QSO's they had had in the particular digital mode and the exact time and date they had logged the QSO. Do we really need to know when you LOGGED the station you were JUST working? I did work the DX, but I can complain too, right ? You are not the first one to notice that so many digital ops seem especially windy when it comes to any sort of contact. Even during a normal rag chew I can't say I really care what version of OS they use, whether or not they built their own PC, etc. AS you say all this sort of stuff is tolerable in a regular QSO but really aggravating if you're waiting for a tasty DX station for an area you need. Maybe if we took away the macro function? :-) Merry Christmas and 73 to all, Tim, N9PUZ
Re: [digitalradio] Puppy Linux anyone ?
I use it alot but I never was very successful installing and running it from a hd. I finally used a flash drive to boot off of instead of the cd and it works fine...73, Alan Is anyone in the group using puppy linux, I would like to ask some question about installing it on a hard drive that also has windows XP on it. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693
