Re: [digitalradio] PSK63F

2010-01-07 Thread Glenn L. Roeser
I just finished my very first ragchew using PSK63F...I am very impressed. I was 
in QSO with Don (W1OER) and we were on 80 meters.
I was running my usual 5 watts and we compared my 5 watt signal using PSK31, 
and then PSK63f.
Don reports that he got most of my print using the PSK31, but I was solid print 
with PSK63F, not a letter missed.
I will continue to use it and it is a fun mode!
Very 73 to all, Glenn (WB2LMV)





From: David w1...@w1hkj.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 4:53:38 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] PSK63F

  
PSK63F is available on the soon to be released versopm 3.13 of fldigi. You can 
download the beta test version for various OS here:

http://www.w1hkj. com/alpha/ fldigi-flarq/

This version also supports new modes, PSK-125R, PSK-250R and PSK-500R; the R 
indicating Robust. These modes are similar to PSK63F, but also include an 
interleaver. You can learn more about these modes here:

http://www.w1hkj. com/Fldigi- Help-3.13

Source code for fldigi is always available for alpha and release versions.

73, Dave, W1HKJ
fldigi development team





  

[digitalradio] PSK63F

2010-01-06 Thread David
PSK63F is available on the soon to be released versopm 3.13 of fldigi.  You can 
download the beta test version for various OS here:

http://www.w1hkj.com/alpha/fldigi-flarq/

This version also supports new modes, PSK-125R, PSK-250R and PSK-500R; the R 
indicating Robust.  These modes are similar to PSK63F, but also include an 
interleaver.  You can learn more about these modes here:

http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi-Help-3.13

Source code for fldigi is always available for alpha and release versions.

73, Dave, W1HKJ
fldigi development team




Re: [digitalradio] PSK63F

2010-01-06 Thread Russell Blair
David, it should be noted that PSK500X should not be used in the U.S. 
only above 10m and Higher. 

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From: David w1...@w1hkj.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 3:53:38 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] PSK63F

  
PSK63F is available on the soon to be released versopm 3.13 of fldigi. You can 
download the beta test version for various OS here:

http://www.w1hkj. com/alpha/ fldigi-flarq/

This version also supports new modes, PSK-125R, PSK-250R and PSK-500R; the R 
indicating Robust. These modes are similar to PSK63F, but also include an 
interleaver. You can learn more about these modes here:

http://www.w1hkj. com/Fldigi- Help-3.13

Source code for fldigi is always available for alpha and release versions.

73, Dave, W1HKJ
fldigi development team





  

Re: [digitalradio] PSK63F

2007-12-01 Thread Simon Brown
Thanks Patrick,

I'll add PSK63F sometime then,

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
  - Original Message - 
  From: Patrick Lindecker 


  Hello Simon,

  PSK63F is a bit more quicker that PSK31, a bit more sensitive, is less 
sensitive to Doppler modulation and is more reliable due to the convolutional 
coding. It is a good choice.

  I don't see any interest in PSK125F.

Re: [digitalradio] PSK63F

2007-12-01 Thread Simon Brown
Another reason why PSK31 is so popular is that it's easy for developers to 
add support, it's the basic digital mode these days (along with RTTY). There 
are several open source implementations available which cover Windows and 
Linux.

I haven't been able to keep up with Patrick's work as I have been to 
involved in getting some other basic software written; for ARQ modes such as 
FAE 400 to be adopted we need to get a GPL source code available so that 
it's easy for other developers to add support.

Myself I'm not too interested in the emergency comms side of things, at the 
moment more the normal chit-chat QSO modes.

I must say that Patrick has excellent ideas.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

- Original Message - 
From: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 What we needed the most, were sound card ARQ modes such as FAE 400 in
 Multipsk, which is the first Windows sound card ARQ mode that works
 asynchronously, (as needed), to send full ASCII characters, error free,
 at a speed about twice as fast as PSK31 but can work deeper into the
 noise, especially with memory ARQ, and eliminates the timing issues that
 were such a problem with hardware ARQ modes.




Re: [digitalradio] PSK63F

2007-11-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Simon,

PSK63F is a bit more quicker that PSK31, a bit more sensitive, is less 
sensitive to Doppler modulation and is more reliable due to the convolutional 
coding. It is a good choice.

I don't see any interest in PSK125F.

73
Patrick

  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon Brown 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 8:57 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] PSK63F



  Has PSK63F / PSK125F shown advantages in real life? I am very tempted to code 
it up in my PSK engine (which is based on fldigi / gMFSK).

  Any comments really appreciated before I start pounding the keyboards.

  Simon Brown, HB9DRV

   

Re: [digitalradio] PSK63F

2007-11-30 Thread Rick
Hi Simon,

I have tested these modes on HF NVIS with a nearby station, but the the 
trade off in speed to support the Viterbi coding is at least half or 
perhaps slightly over half. They seem to be rarely used and only if you 
ask the other station to try it for testing purposes. Like many of the 
newer digital modes, they have not gained much traction because for many 
hams,  PSK31 is good enough. If conditions do not permit PSK31 
operation, they may consider propagation to be too poor to continue 
digital modes, even though they may not realize that some digital modes 
will still get through.

What we needed the most, were sound card ARQ modes such as FAE 400 in 
Multipsk, which is the first Windows sound card ARQ mode that works 
asynchronously, (as needed), to send full ASCII characters, error free, 
at a speed about twice as fast as PSK31 but can work deeper into the 
noise, especially with memory ARQ, and eliminates the timing issues that 
were such a problem with hardware ARQ modes.

Although the footprint is much wider than PSK 31, it is not that much 
different from PSK modes running at 125 baud and with similar speed to 
PSK125F even though it uses an 8FSK 50 baud waveform.

Another surprising mode is Nino Porcino, IZ8BLY's CHIP modes that did 
not seem to have any advantages and yet turned out to work better than 
most modes under high QRN conditions and has been selected by at least 
one digital traffic net as one of their main modes. I wonder if this 
type of mode has potential for ARQ?

73,

Rick, KV9U



Simon Brown wrote:
 Has PSK63F / PSK125F shown advantages in real life? I am very tempted 
 to code it up in my PSK engine (which is based on fldigi / gMFSK).
  
 Any comments really appreciated before I start pounding the keyboards.
  
 Simon Brown, HB9DRV
 
 

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[digitalradio] PSK63F

2007-11-30 Thread Simon Brown
Has PSK63F / PSK125F shown advantages in real life? I am very tempted to code 
it up in my PSK engine (which is based on fldigi / gMFSK).

Any comments really appreciated before I start pounding the keyboards.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV