[digitalradio] MULTIPSK Version 3.13 is out!
http://www.hamsoft.co.uk/multipsk/ de LA5VNA Steinar Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: CW (Transmit and Receive) program??
Try MULTIPSK Version 3.13 http://f6cte.free.fr/ De LA5VNA --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Migliari Adriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can Somebody provide me with web site address from where i can download a FREE CW (Transmit and Receive) program?? I tried MIXW and Hamscope but in RX does not satisfy me. Thanks. Cordiali Saluti/Best Regards Adriano Migliari Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: www.webalice.it/ik2cbd (AGWPE, UI-VIEW32, WinPack) AX25: [EMAIL PROTECTED] QRV: 432.650 Merate (LC), ItalyWWloc: JN45RQ ARI N^ 82-0064 WinPack-UI-view32 registration: http://www.webalice.it/ik2cbd/winpack or http://www.webalice.it/ik2cbd/uiview Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] re: The Internet is Unreliable for Amateur Radio Service Emergency Communications
Nice Steve ;) 73 de LA5VNA Steve Hajducek skrev: Hi Dave, You go it. /s/ Steve, N2CKH At 01:17 PM 8/23/2006, you wrote: Oh, I see, Steve. You believe that the internet is insufficiently reliable Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Too much fighting
I am leaving this group. Too much fighting. Goodbye de LA5VNA Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] The Digital Radio Group
Thank you Erik:) 73 de LA5VNA list email filter wrote: Andy, Would it be too much to ask to request that these rule changing discussions move to the 'political' group? They started out being informative and of interest to all subscribers, by pointing out the new regs, but they're starting to degrade. We may all feel badly about the rule changes, and its surely an emotional issue for many, but they are shortly to become officially enforceable regulations. At any rate, we did spin-off a separate group for just these types of discussions. Thanks, and 73, Erik KI4HMS/7
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Performance difference between 500 Hz and 1000 Hz digital modes?
Hi Bonnie, It seems to me that it is more freedom in my socialistic country than in US regarding ham radio, but the politics are not my strong side. Have you tested the MIL-STD-188-110 PSK modem yet ( http://neurosis.hungry.com/~ben/radio/188-110/rfsm2400_v037.zip) ? It is really a nice piece of software. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Norway expeditionradio wrote: Andrew O'Brien wrote: While some of us try to calm down from the Part 97 revisions in the USA, I wonder how big a deal having to use 500 HZ data modes really is? Take Olivia for example , what real performance differencs are there between 16/500 Oliva and 32/1K oLivia ? Hi Andy, Slow texting modes like Olivia are not the problem we are facing with the recent FCC fiasco. The problem is that fast data is in crisis. The rest of the world is moving ahead with fast data. Some of us (including me) have been using new HF software modems that run 4800 bps in a 3kHz bandwidth. Some of us (including me) would like to use fast digital to do HF chat room nets with file and image. Some of us would like to continue to advance with HF communications. Please tell me, what difference does it really make whether the content we send on digital is digital images, digital voice, digital data, or digital text? The RF signal is exactly the same. The RF bandwidth is exactly the same. Why should USA hams be forced to go back to the Digital Dark Ages? To answer your question: The real big deal is that a stupid mistake by FCC staff is causing us to lose more freedom to advance the art of digital radio communications. What if the FCC had eliminated AM phone on HF? AM takes much more bandwidth than any of the fast data modes. Presently, there are more hams on HF using fast data than AM. FCC should be expanding digital data communications, not stifling it. Bonnie KQ6XA
Re: [digitalradio] RFSM2400?
Hi Per and the group, First of all, I'm not an expert on this issue, but an curious novice who have just received the ham radio license. Therefore I'm not able to answer all the technical about the program. I came across this RFSM2400 program when I was googling for new digital ham modes. On this web side http://www.radioscanner.ru/forum/index.php?action=vthreadforum=8topic=25689page=11 it was a Russian guy who had made something that looked like an amateur version of the 188-110A military radio system. I used http://babelfish.altavista.com/ to translate Russian in to English. Some information about the software appeared also on the yahoo group http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hflink/ I have tested the program locally with some ham friends, and it seems very robust. I have also linked two PCs together and the reduced the audio level to try to figure out the minimum audio level the program is able to decode. I know this is not the best way to test the soft ware. I have also decoded some weak signals from the Russians, they seems to operate on this two frequencies 3589 LSB and 3.731,5 LSB. Per if you would like to try this software, I'm QRV on 3589 LSB this evening from 2030-2400 local time (GMT+1h). You can download the latest the software from this web side http://home.broadpark.no/~saanes/rfsm2400_v04.zip Best regard from Norway LA5VNA Steinar Per wrote: I would be interested in trying it as well! Are you guys QRV somewhere ? 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:aobrien2%40stny.rr.com wrote: Steinar, I downloaded it and have it working with my rig, what frequencies are people using this standard ? Andy K3UK - Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:saanes%40broadpark.no . Have you tested the MIL-STD-188-110 PSK modem yet ( http://neurosis.hungry.com/~ben/radio/188-110/rfsm2400_v037.zip http://neurosis.hungry.com/%7Eben/radio/188-110/rfsm2400_v037.zip) ? It is really a nice piece of software. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Norway __ Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre
Re: [digitalradio]
Hi John, I am calling you but the condition is not sow good between us. Steinar John Bradley wrote: QRV on 14109.5 using rfsm2400, mil std setting what happens when u connect?
Re: [digitalradio] MFSK beacon
yo! I will listen after your beacon if you are turning your antenna to the north. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Alves wrote: Well, I'm getting out of this list, nobody seems to be interested by my experiments. Ciao, F4EOB.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: RFSM-2400 on 14.109,5
Hi, 20m seems to be completely dead here in Norway. I will qsy 3565.0 kHz USB LA5VNA Steinar cesco12342000 wrote: I am QRV on 14.109,5 USB (VFO) and Wait connection... Calling you, 18:32 utc (i think) 14.109.5 vfo, 14.111 center. No answer till now. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/message/17658;_ylc=X3oDMTM2aWowbTBsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzExODMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYzMTA4BG1zZ0lkAzE3NjU5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE2NDQ3MzUwNgR0cGNJZAMxNzY1OA--
[digitalradio] Dmitry have released a new version of RFSM2400
Hi, You can download the latest the software from my web side http://home.broadpark.no/~saanes/rfsm2400_v041.zip I have tried to decode the Russian language with Babel Fish, but I am not sure what's different from the previous version. Perhaps some of you who have English as first language have more luck. From the Russian web side: -- Dmirty: Date: 26 noys 2006 19:50:06 # quotation Mesh Code-300 let will break off with the quality of demodulation;) Pover'te, this is more main than the permissible detunings, which can be corrected moreover. I personally consider what to better calibrate and to advance 1 time sonic how to worsen for this demodulator. Where to model corrector let us X-ray with the diagram, but not now, but tomorrow, after conferring with the collective reason IDE Group (so that the know-how, you do not give god, not to give out;) Now here reworked the algorithm of modulation, reduced calculations and like raised the quality of the signal put out. I will flood - I will report. http://home.broadpark.no/%7Esaanes/rfsm2400_v04.zip 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] Rfsm2400 v.042 and a new web-site
Hi all, Go to http://rfsm2400.narod.ru/ and download the latest MIL-STD 188-110 Modem. (Or use my link, it's faster) http://home.broadpark.no/~saanes/rfsm2400_v42.zip 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] RFSM-2400 on 14.109
Hi all, I am QRV on 14.109,5 USB (VFO). Waiting for any call. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] 188-110A Soft-RF-Modem Rfsm2400 v.0451
Hi, Version 0451 is out. http://home.broadpark.no/~saanes/rfsm2400_v0451.zip Changes in version 0.451. (-) Fix bugs in sending file. Now possible send file from any directory. The maximum size of a file is about 240 kilobyte. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] 188-110A Soft-RF-Modem Rfsm2400 v.0461
See the Norwegian mirror of rfsm2400.narod.ru : http://home.broadpark.no/~saanes/rfsm2400/rfsm2400.htm 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] 110 baud packet test tonight
MULTIPSK Version 4.1.2 http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm 73 de LA5VNA Steinar John Bradley wrote: so what software are u using for 100 baud packet? can't find anything that slow on MixW calling u on 300baud packet right now as of 0115Z john ve5mu - Original Message - *From:* Andrew O'Brien mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:35 PM *Subject:* [digitalradio] 110 baud packet test tonight I, and a few others, will be testing 110 baud packet on 3590 plus 1000 Hz AF tonight as of 0100 UTC until 0300 UTC. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] New rfsm2400 MIL-STD-188-110A modem
Download 0.481 from http://rfsm2400.narod.ru/ or my side http://rfsm2400.aanesland.com/ 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] Transmitting digital pictures on 14.240 MHz
Hi my American HAM friends, If I have understood this right , this FCC rules of yours make it impossibility for you to use rfsm2400 as a keyboard to Keyboard mode. But you can use it for transmitting digital pictures on 14.240 MHz. It seems a little bit strange to me , but anyway ; let's try to exchange some pictures. I have tried this with a few european friends and it works great. I am qrv on 14.240 MHz from 17.30 utc until midnight local time. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar http://rfsm2400.aanesland.com
Re: [digitalradio] Transmitting digital pictures on 14.240 MHz
Hi John After a direct mail with nonsense from some of you, my spam filter takes care of the most prominent wanna be lawyers on this group. They never reached my mail box. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar http://rfsm2400.aanesland.com non the mail server John Champa wrote: Steinar, I think US hams are simply reading far too much into their regulations. They tend to do that because we are over exposed: We have too many under-employed lawyers in the US, and way too many wanna bes. In the Army we called these amateur lawyers, barracks lawyers (HI). As a result they often over interpret fuzzy parts of regulations. And, they also over emphasize apparently clear parts of the same regs. Unfortunately, in this process, they often error on the excessively conservative side of the interpretation, thus frequently cutting their own radio experimental throats in the process. Always, when you talk with a FCC government official off-the-record and over a beer or at dinner, it is obvious to see that as long as nobody complains, they could not care less. This is especially true regarding Amateur Radio. However, most Hams are unable to see the light, thus the strange interpretations you will hear from US Hams. Vy 73, John K8OCL Original Message Follows From: Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Transmitting digital pictures on 14.240 MHz Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:37:12 +0100 Hi my American HAM friends, If I have understood this right , this FCC rules of yours make it impossibility for you to use rfsm2400 as a keyboard to Keyboard mode. But you can use it for transmitting digital pictures on 14.240 MHz. It seems a little bit strange to me , but anyway ; let's try to exchange some pictures. I have tried this with a few european friends and it works great. I am qrv on 14.240 MHz from 17.30 utc until midnight local time. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar http://rfsm2400.aanesland.com
[digitalradio] 188-110A Soft-RF-Modem Rfsm2400 v.0.483
Hi, Version 0.483 is out. http://rfsm2400.narod.ru or http://rfsm2400.aanesland.com Changes in version 0.483. -- Change packets monitor work. View CALLSIGNS in all signal blocks. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] MIL-STD-188-110A modem, rfsm2400 software
Hi, I am qrv on 14.109,5 USB this evening. Listen for any call. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar http:// rfsm2400.aanesland.com
[digitalradio] 188-110A Soft-RF-Modem Rfsm2400 v.0.485
Hi all,
Version 0.485 is out.
http://rfsm2400.narod.ru
or
http://rfsm2400.aanesland.com
*Changes in version 0.485. *
(+) Add feature - allow set DOWNLOAD- and UPLOAD-directory.
(+) Add feature - allow change subdirectory in DOWNLOAD-directory
(''walk tree'').
(+) Add feature - allow FTP-commands in chat-input window. Allowed next
commands: -dir, -cd , -cd .., -get .
(-) Many small bugs fixed.
73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] 141A beacon 14109.5
Hi John, I am calling you on 14109.5, 1830UTC. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar John Bradley wrote: at 1725Z started beaconing every 2 minutes for the next hour or so john VE5MU
Re: [digitalradio] Re: RFSM-2400
My side is now updated with a fast link to latest the software. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar http://rfsm2400.aanesland.com/ Les Keppie wrote: o. wrote: Hi group Where can I download theRFSM software from? http://rfsm2400.aanesland.com/
Re: [digitalradio] QRV RFSM-2400 14109.5
Hi Roberto, I am calling you on 14.109.50 usb right now (11:40 utc) You are in my abonents list. Beacon on every five minutes. 73 de la5vna Steinar http://rfsm2400.aanesland.com Roberto IS0GRB wrote: I'm actually qrv on 14.109.50 usb with RFSM-2400 and beacon mode 500/600 short every 30s Can you try to receive me and connect me? 73 Roberto IS0GRB
Re: [digitalradio] QRV RFSM-2400 14109.5
Yes Roberto, this is the text: Message from beacon 'IS0GRB' Callsign: IS0GRB Name : Roberto QTH : Cagliari, South Sardinia island, ITALY LOC : JM49OF Power : 100W Ant : Inverted V Dipole BEACON EVERY 10s Message from beacon 'IS0GRB' ***IS0GRB -op.Roberto -Cagliari,Sardinia,ITALY -JM49OF*** but you have right, it is heavy qrm from the contest stations on 20m this evening.. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar -- Roberto IS0GRB wrote: Hi Steinar, i had received your beacon, but i'm trying to connect you, but there is many qrm from pactor and stations that are in contest on 14.109.90... Did you received me? 73 Roberto IS0GRB - Ori
Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines
My American friends, do you never get tired of telling each other what's not legal under your FCC Part 97 ? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar AAR2EY/AAA9DHT wrote: Hi Tony, I posted a comment on this the other day but I did not see it debut. The use of MIL-STD-188-110 serial tone data modem is not legal under FCC Part 97 for data. Also, the RFSM2400 tool makes use of a non-disclosed Data Link Protocol (DLP), be it proprietary or something that is known to the public in other forms, such as X.25 not withstanding, its not known what is being used, thus it is illegal under FCC Part 97 rules for any use until such time the DLP is published. /s/ Steve, N2CKH
Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines
Ok , I was only curious . Every time someone discover a new mode or rediscover an old one like this MIL-STD-188-110 modem, this U.S. FCC rules initialize the same discussion . Don't forget the rest of the world. It is not very interesting to have to read through a lot of text with the same old arguments before getting to the point. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar AAR2EY/AAA9DHT wrote: Hi Steiner, It would be nice if Part 97 was clear and simple and we did not have to help our fellow U.S. Radio Amateur's understand it, but unfortunately that is not yet the case. I am in hopes that the FCC will come around to any signal up to 3Khz using a published in detail protocol is legal approach, but that may be more of a dream rather than a hope. P.S. - I read statements about the use of MIL-STD-188-110 and FS-1052 FTP in PC-ALE being legal for U.S. Amateurs to send image files, this is NOT so as the FTP protocol is NOT part of FED-STD-1052 or is it any standard FTP and it has never been published by G4GUO, if it were to be published then it would be ok. /s/ Steve, N2CKH At 10:31 AM 3/17/2007, you wrote: My American friends, do you never get tired of telling each other what's not legal under your FCC Part 97 ? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] Politics be gone
I believe we had enough of that, and that discussion should move to where it is welcome. I am totally agree with you Jose. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Jose A. Amador wrote: Agree. Having my own opinion, I have refrained to participate lately on the ongoing threads because what I see in the bottomline is hate, and my way or no way on mails. It is a waste of time. It is a pity all the space wasted here with another list available for such discussions. I am not under the jurisdiction of FCC and I am not a member of ARRL. I am not going to say I don't care, I do, because the US is a large neighbor close to us. But so much HATE mail is boring, to say the least. It also creates (should I say reinstates?) a BAD image. I believe we had enough of that, and that discussion should move to where it is welcome. Jose, CO2JA --- John Bradley wrote: i would rather stay where I am , but this is getting 'way out of hand. There is a forum where the politics of all this can be discussed, rather than on here Why don't you use the three strikes rule? If people insist on carrying on political discussions on here, particularly dealing with one particular country, give them 2 warnings and then punt them? John VE5MU - Original Message - *From:* Andrew O'Brien mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2007 11:26 AM *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Politics be gone and maybe I, as moderator, should pay more attention to the issue. Andy K3Uk On 3/26/07, *Chuck Mayfield* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK! I have come up with a way to ignore all this spam about politics, including; ARRL and FCC. Rule: if header contains [digitalradio] And body contains (ARRL OR FCC) then delete_message. Hopefully, I will not miss those messages that actually pertain to digitalradio. 73, Chuck AA5J __ V Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro de Energía y Educación Energética. 22 al 25 de mayo de 2007 Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.cujae.edu.cu/eventos/cier Participe en Universidad 2008. 11 al 15 de febrero del 2008. Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.universidad2008.cu
Re: [digitalradio] Mystery signal still active
Hi I think it is jt65a. This was posted on [EMAIL PROTECTED] a few days ago: - Hi gang. I am on 14.076 mhz usb usint jt65a and 200 watts time utc 10:00 Anyone out there 73’s de tf3tty - 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Andrew O'Brien wrote: That mystery signal is active again on 14078 this morning , 1200 UTC. Andy k3UK
Re: [digitalradio] JT65A for HF
I am on 14.076 in JT65A and received CQ VE3FGU FN04 right now. LA5VNA Steinar Andrew O'Brien wrote: I have acquire the software and have mode JT65A working with my rig. Anyone else here use the sofware for HF experimenting? I have sent a CQ but need to do further reading about the timing of the transmissions and the HF frequencies. Andy K3UK FN02hk.
Re: [digitalradio] CQ JT65A
Hi all Captured in Norway on 14.076 this evening: 072400 8 -7 1.2 11 3 * CQ RV3APM KO861 0 130300 1 -11 0.1 -30 3 * CQ K4CML FM17 1 0 131800 6 -18 0.3 -22 3 * KC0HLN VE3FGU FN041 0 133000 8 -16 0.4 -22 3 * CQ VE3FGU FN041 0 133200 4 -16 0.4 -22 1 # W9RVG VE3FGU FN04 OOO 1 0 143500 1 -18 0.3 -24 3 # W6SZ VE3FGU FN04OOO 1 0 144500 8 -18 0.5 -24 3 # W0IOH VE3FGU FN04 OOO 1 0 153000 5 -22 0.1 -32 3 * TNX COLIN 73 1 0 162000 2 -24 0.2 -493 3 * CQ DF4UE JN48 0 10 163200 4 -20 0.1 -493 3 * BEST-24DBTNX 1 0 165000 2 -19 0.2 -493 3 * BEST-17DBTNX 1 0 73 de LA5VNA Steinar LOC. JO59jq KT2Q wrote: Outstanding Andy... - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:andrewobrie%40gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CQ JT65A Simply amazing, did not hear a thing with my ears but...on 40M, 2123 miles 005700 4 -21 -0.3 -38 4 * K3UK VE7TIL CN89 1 0 005800 0 -30 1.0 361 34 010100 4 -21 -0.3 3 3 # K3UK VE7TIL CN89 OOO 1 0 010300 10 -19 4 3 RRR ? 010500 3 -17 -0.5 5 3 * TU ANDY -17 1 0 On 4/2/07, KT2Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:DXDX%40optonline.net wrote: 192700 9 -16 0.1 -5 3 * CQ K7EV CN87 1 0 193000 5 -6 0.0 -5 4 * CQ W0IOH DM78 1 10 -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com
Re: [digitalradio] CQ JT65A
I am calling now on 7.076 in JT65A la5vna Steinar -- Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi all Captured in Norway on 14.076 this evening: 072400 8 -7 1.2 11 3 * CQ RV3APM KO86 1 0 130300 1 -11 0.1 -30 3 * CQ K4CML FM17 1 0 131800 6 -18 0.3 -22 3 * KC0HLN VE3FGU FN04 1 0 133000 8 -16 0.4 -22 3 * CQ VE3FGU FN04 1 0 133200 4 -16 0.4 -22 1 # W9RVG VE3FGU FN04 OOO 1 0 143500 1 -18 0.3 -24 3 # W6SZ VE3FGU FN04 OOO 1 0 144500 8 -18 0.5 -24 3 # W0IOH VE3FGU FN04 OOO 1 0 153000 5 -22 0.1 -32 3 * TNX COLIN 73 1 0 162000 2 -24 0.2 -493 3 * CQ DF4UE JN48 0 10 163200 4 -20 0.1 -493 3 * BEST-24DBTNX 1 0 165000 2 -19 0.2 -493 3 * BEST-17DBTNX 1 0 73 de LA5VNA Steinar LOC. JO59jq KT2Q wrote: Outstanding Andy... - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:andrewobrie%40gmail.com mailto:andrewobrie%40gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CQ JT65A Simply amazing, did not hear a thing with my ears but...on 40M, 2123 miles 005700 4 -21 -0.3 -38 4 * K3UK VE7TIL CN89 1 0 005800 0 -30 1.0 361 34 010100 4 -21 -0.3 3 3 # K3UK VE7TIL CN89 OOO 1 0 010300 10 -19 4 3 RRR ? 010500 3 -17 -0.5 5 3 * TU ANDY -17 1 0 On 4/2/07, KT2Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:DXDX%40optonline.net mailto:DXDX%40optonline.net wrote: 192700 9 -16 0.1 -5 3 * CQ K7EV CN87 1 0 193000 5 -6 0.0 -5 4 * CQ W0IOH DM78 1 10 -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 callto://andyobrien73 callto://andyobrien73 callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com
[digitalradio] JT65A in Lima Alpha land
Hi all, I had my first six qso's in JT65A with; WD4KPD ZS6WN K4CML VE3FGU K7EV K5DNL to day. I did not hear a thing with my ears when I captured K7EV and K5DNL. Great mode this one :) 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] CO2JA in JT65A on 40m
Hi Jose My radio was monitoring 40m last night when I was sleeping . My antenna is a homemade vertical dipole for 20m and I was surprised to see your signal on my screen this morning. Would you make it another try to night and I promise you I will stay awake to try to connect you ? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Jose A. Amador wrote: I finally read the WSJT manual, quite quickly indeed, and from it I could gather the following: Encoded user information is transmitted during the 63 intervals not used for the sync tone. Each channel symbol generates a tone at frequency 1275.8 + 2.6917 Nm Hz, where N is the value of the six-bit symbol, 0 N 63, and m is 1, 2, or 4 for JT65 sub-modes A, B, or C. The signal report OOO is conveyed by reversing sync and data positions in the transmitted sequence. Shorthand messages dispense with the sync vector and use intervals of 1.486 s (16,384 samples) for the alternating tones. The lower frequency is always 1270.5 Hz, the same as that of the sync tone, and the frequency separation is 26.92 nm Hz with n = 2, 3, 4 for the messages RO, RRR, and 73. So, assuming N is the 63rd symbol in JT65A (m=1), it yields: 1275.8 + (2.6917 * 63) = 1275.8 + 169.5771 = 1445,3771 Hz The shift is less than 170 Hz !! And for 73: 1275.8 + (26.92 * 4) = 1275.8 + 107,68 = 1383,48 Hz The shift is 107,68 Hz! So, JT65A never occupies more than 170 Hz on the air, which is quite tolerable indeed. Figuring out all this, I wanted to corect my previous post. Yes, it is wider than PSK31, but not quite as wide as RTTY. 73, Jose, CO2JA PS: I have been monitoring quite a few QSO's on 7076 this evening! __ V Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro de Energía y Educación Energética. 22 al 25 de mayo de 2007 Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.cujae.edu.cu/eventos/cier http://www.cujae.edu.cu/eventos/cier Participe en Universidad 2008. 11 al 15 de febrero del 2008. Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.universidad2008.cu http://www.universidad2008.cu
[digitalradio] Japan on 14.076 in JT65A
Hi all I captured this : 112600 2 -12 -0.1 -13 2 * CQ JE5FLM PM74 on 14.076 right now. (12:30 UTC). 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] JT65 Checklist
Hi A useful web-page : http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj/JT65checklist.htm 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] Japan on 14.076 in JT65A
Andrew No sign of you yet, but I will keep looking ;) Steinar Andrew O'Brien wrote: Steinar 115800 5 -21 -0.6 -46 3 * CQ JAPAN LA5V 1 0 Pretty deep in the mud but I heard you. You have not heard me yet, it seems. Andy K3UK On 4/5/07, *Andrew O'Brien* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1130 UTC perhaps ? Andy. On 4/5/07, *Steinar Aanesland* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I captured this : 112600 2 -12 -0.1 -13 2 * CQ JE5FLM PM74 on 14.076 right now. (12:30 UTC). 73 de LA5VNA Steinar -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com http://www.obriensweb.com -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com http://www.obriensweb.com
Re: [digitalradio] Some notes on JT65-on-HF operation
Hi Dimension 4 is a nice little program to Always keep your clock synchronized(..) You can download it from: http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4/index.htm 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Chris Danis wrote: Hi all, JT65 is a very different mode from more conventional keyboard modes. It is designed for EME operation with very weak signals, and to allow for just the bare minimum amount of information that defines a contact to be exchanged. This leads to some quirks in its operation, which I will do my best to explain below (I'm hardly an expert on this -- only been trying my hand at it for a few days!). This message got a bit longer than I had wanted it to be, so here's a quick summary of the points (if you don't follow these, many stations will not be able to work you!): - Always keep your clock synchronized, to one second or better accuracy - Always click the Auto is OFF button to make it so Auto is ON. Those who are interested in why, read on... The software has a notion of timeslots (as in EME operation). One station TXes, beginning at the start of a minute, for 48 seconds, then goes to RX for the remaining 12 seconds. The other station calls back at the start of the next minute, for 48 seconds, while the first station RXes for that full minute. This is the standard that stations follow -- if you don't conform to it, they will probably not be able to decode you. Thankfully, the software will enforce this timing for you if you press the Auto is OFF button. The button will then change to Auto is ON and will also be highlighted in red. Also tied in with this functionality is the Tx First checkbox: if checked, your TX slot will be the even minutes of the hour (first meaning first minute of the hour). If unchecked, your TX slot will be (you guessed it) the odd minutes of the hour. Obviously, one should pick the opposite of the station they are trying to work :) While Auto is ON you will always TX in your TX period -- so when you are done, make sure to turn it off, hi. Whether auto is on or off, the software will automatically attempt a decode at 52 seconds into the minute. If by the time you've decoded you're already into your TX cycle, just press the appropriate TxN button on the far right, where N is the number of the message you want (you'll see). If you ever need a quick reference on which is the appropriate message to send, just hit F5 (or menu item Help - What message to send?). Also note that decoding isn't an instantaneous procedure: pressing Decode while you are less than 52 seconds into the minute will attempt to decode last minute's tones again. One must wait for the end of the transmission cycle to get the latest decode. Hope this helps! best 73, -chris N2YYZ
[digitalradio] free text in JT65A
Hi all, Some of you are typing long massages in a JT65A qso on HF and I wonder how you do that. Chris N2YYZ wrote Always click the Auto is OFF button to make it so Auto is ON. but when Auto is ON is on there is no way I am able to type in a text. I simply don't have time. Few seconds after decoding a signal the auto transmission kicks in, and my Norwegian brain is to slow. My head will never be able to translate from Norwegian into English, and get something understandable on the air when the time is sow extreme limited. I hope this was understandable;) Is there a trick here I'm missing? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] K3UK
Hi Andy You were extremely weak . Only one time I was able to hear you. This is what I captured: 112900 3 -24 -0.2 19 3 * LA5VNA K3UK FN02 1 0 112900 3 -24 -0.2 19 3 * LA5VNA K3UK FN02 1 0 113100 2 -25 -0.4 22 3 # LA5VNA K3UK FN02OOO 1 0 113300 2 -3022 2 RO 113500 0 -29 6.90 51 I didn't get the RRR so that means the QSO is not accepted ? 73 la5vna Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] free text in JT65A
Andy, I responded manually, waiting to see what the person said before I replied. .I all sow use this work around yesterday , but then somebody start typing use Auto . If I only had this 10 sec , it had helped me a lot. Even a slow writer like me would be able print something sensible. Steinar LA5VNA Andrew O'Brien wrote: A good question Steinar. I sometimes will write some free text but not in direct response to the line that just popped up on my screen, usually I am just adding something like TU Steinar es 73 from NY . I am not asking questions like how is the weather in Norway? Last night, because of the situation you described, I did the opposite of what Chris suggested. I responded manually, waiting to see what the person said before I replied. This results in me starting the transmission 10 seconds , or so, late. The transmission ends on time, so I am not sure what real impact my 10 second late transmission has on anything. Andy k3UK On 4/6/07, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Some of you are typing long massages in a JT65A qso on HF and I wonder how you do that. Chris N2YYZ wrote Always click the Auto is OFF button to make it so Auto is ON. but when Auto is ON is on there is no way I am able to type in a text. I simply don't have time. Few seconds after decoding a signal the auto transmission kicks in, and my Norwegian brain is to slow. My head will never be able to translate from Norwegian into English, and get something understandable on the air when the time is sow extreme limited. I hope this was understandable;) Is there a trick here I'm missing? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com http://www.obriensweb.com
Re: [digitalradio] K3UK
Hi Peter, Great! I have been to Perth some years ago and it gives me therefor an extra good vibration to see that my signal reached your antenna :) This is what I am using: http://home.broadpark.no/~saanes/bilder/antenna.jpg Not a big thing as you can see ,but with my 100W it does the job :) . Hope to see you on 20m JT65A some times. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Peter L. Jackson wrote: I have been getting both sides of this qso. Unfortunately i have no 20mx antenna, using a 10mx verticle to receive. Theres been a lot of activity on today from around the world the northern hemisphere stations are coming in this evening. I've tried JT6M on 10mx across australia , that goes good as well. Good DX, Peter of87jr Perth, Western Australia Andrew O'Brien wrote: Yes, not a good contact. Sorry but glad we got a little close. Andy. On 4/6/07, *Steinar Aanesland* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:saanes%40broadpark.no mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:saanes%40broadpark.no wrote: Hi Andy You were extremely weak . Only one time I was able to hear you. This is what I captured: 112900 3 -24 -0.2 19 3 * LA5VNA K3UK FN02 1 0 112900 3 -24 -0.2 19 3 * LA5VNA K3UK FN02 1 0 113100 2 -25 -0.4 22 3 # LA5VNA K3UK FN02 OOO 1 0 113300 2 -30 22 2 RO 113500 0 -29 6.9 0 51 I didn't get the RRR so that means the QSO is not accepted ? 73 la5vna Steinar -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com http://www.obriensweb.com http://www.obriensweb.com -- avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000730-4, 05/04/2007 Tested on: 6/04/2007 9:15:30 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000730-4, 05/04/2007 Tested on: 6/04/2007 9:26:32 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com
Re: [digitalradio] j65
Strange! It is crowded on 14.076 right now! 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Danny Douglas wrote: Your not alone John. I havent seen one all morning. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - *From:* John Bradley mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, April 06, 2007 1:28 PM *Subject:* [digitalradio] j65 ok I need help. why is it that I can see the messages, and message numbers, time sent etc etc but I can't see any callsigns? Can copy RO and 73 etc etc at -29db on the waterfall and understand how those tones work. other people have been seeing me yet i can't copy a callsign.. Grrr! John VE5MU No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 4/5/2007 3:33 PM
[digitalradio] JT65A on 40m
Hi, I am calling on 7076 USB 23:30 UTC. Copy me any one ? LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] JT65A HF on cluster
Hi all, How do you feel about being spotted on the cluster? I thought it could be a smart way to tell the HAM community about JT65A on HF, but I don't want to provoke anybody in the group. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] SOUTH AFRICA in JT65A HF
Strong signal from ZS6BUN on 14.076 despite heavy qrm from RTTY contesters 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] JT65A on 18.102 MHz
Hi all , Because of the heavy qrm from RTTY contesters , who doesn't care about the fact that the frequency is in use , I will QSY to 18.102 USB for to day. I have not an optimized antenna for this band, so it will be interesting to see how it works out. See you on 17 meter 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] JT65A on 18.102 MHz
Hi Andy and the gang, I have some static because of snowing, and the condition is not the best, but I am still transmitting on 18.102 USB in hope of getting in contact with one of you. LA5VNA Steinar Andrew O'Brien wrote: Steinar, Good Morning...I am there also. Hope to work Norway on this band. Andy K3UK On 4/8/07, *Steinar Aanesland* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all , Because of the heavy qrm from RTTY contesters , who doesn't care about the fact that the frequency is in use , I will QSY to 18.102 USB for to day. I have not an optimized antenna for this band, so it will be interesting to see how it works out. See you on 17 meter 73 de LA5VNA Steinar -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com http://www.obriensweb.com
Re: [digitalradio] Re: JT65A on 18.102 MHz
Hi, What about trying 30m ? I am sending cq on 10.147 USB now. 73 de la5vna Steinar Dave wrote: Not hearing you or anyone else on 18.102, and apparently nobody hearing me either. Good condx here with almost no noise. 73 Dave KB3MOW --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andy and the gang, I have some static because of snowing, and the condition is not the best, but I am still transmitting on 18.102 USB in hope of getting in contact with one of you. LA5VNA Steinar Andrew O'Brien wrote: Steinar, Good Morning...I am there also. Hope to work Norway on this band. Andy K3UK On 4/8/07, *Steinar Aanesland* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all , Because of the heavy qrm from RTTY contesters , who doesn't care about the fact that the frequency is in use , I will QSY to 18.102 USB for to day. I have not an optimized antenna for this band, so it will be interesting to see how it works out. See you on 17 meter 73 de LA5VNA Steinar -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com http://www.obriensweb.com http://www.obriensweb.com
[digitalradio] JT65A on 30 meter
Yes! My first Norwegian in JT65A mode :) 162900 6 -21 0.1 19 3 * LA5VNA LA6TPA JP541 0 163100 8 -20 -0.5 19 3 * LA5VNA LA6TPA JP541 0 163300 10 -2118 3 RO ? 163500 10 -2317 1 73 ? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] Re: JT65A on 18.102 MHz
OK , I got ZS6BUN on 30m now :) :) :) LA5VNA Steinar Darrel Smith wrote: The RTTY has left 20M and it is very quite now. I am on 14.076 along with many others. Darrel VE7CUS On 8-Apr-07, at 8:59 AM, Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi, What about trying 30m ? I
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Introducing The Complete Bozo's Guide To HF JT65A
Hi all, First big thanks to Andy for grate Bozo's Guide. I want to translate it in to Norwegian if you don't minde Andy. I think Howards suggestion is a good one . It will be easer to pick up the right answerer when the band is crowded. And it is a approved way according to the original manual. 73 LA5VNA Steinar w6ids wrote: Hey Andy! Dave's right. Yessir, great job for the Bozo support here in Indiana. The issue of frequency adjustment needs a little more clarification for putting the transmitter on the mark. BTW, just for discussion - what would be wrong sending something like KB3MOW W6IDS OOO, KB3MOW W6IDS RRR and KB3MOW W6IDS 73 ?? Seems to me it clears up things across the board for HF and this mode. No possible chance for confusion. I've been tempted to do it. - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 9:15 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Introducing The Complete Bozo's Guide To HF JT65A --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Dave Corio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice job, Andy, but you never got deeper into the frequency alignment. SNIP SNIP I am decoding you at -5 DF and N5BA at -13 , I never did try to get closer to him. When there is a pile up and you are not sure whether the RO or RRR is to you or someone esle near by, check the DF when you received a line with the call sign you are working. Note the DF then, if you see an RRR or RO that is from a vastly different DF, then chances are you are getting someone else's RO/RRR and not the one you need. SNIP SNIP
[digitalradio] My first Brazilian in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yesss :) 202700 1 -15 -1.9 11 4 # LA5VNA PY4ZBZ GH70 OOO 1 10 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] LA6TPA @ 3584 USB in JT65A
Hi, My friend Geir LA6TPA is calling CQ on 3584 USB right now. Try to catch him if you can ;) Good hunting! 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] [EMAIL PROTECTED] in JT65A
Yess! Got him :) 132400 6 -6 -0.2 -175 3 # LA5VNA 7L4IOU PM95 OOO 1 10 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Singapore : New on PSK31 and JT65A
Hi Bob I think I copied your call sign yesterday, but I was at work and could not answer you. Are you QRV right now? I am calling on 14.076 LA5VNA Steinar Bob Fabrizio wrote: Thanks Andy. I have been reading this group for awhile now and finally decided to jump in and see if I could make the JT65A stuff work. It was fun getting it running but it was even more fun seeing the callsigns come up. It seemed like there were a few other signals there because I would copy a RO or RRR seemingly by itself occasionally. I wish I had heard the VE7CUS call but I did not. Perhaps I will catch him tonight and I will look for you as well. I am glad that my presence is of interest to people, the thrill of working them is definitely mutual. If anyone wants a sked, just send me an email. 73, Bob, 9V1QQ --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the group Bob. When I got out of work today and checked the lcoal 2M repeater, your presence on JT65A HF was being discussed, seems you were in QSO with VE7CUS, or at least he was calling you. I hope to find you 1000-1500 UTC today. Andy K3UK --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Bob Fabrizio bob@ wrote: I recently got my new Navigator interface and was able to get on PSK31 without much trouble using it and DXLabs WinWarbler. I already made a number of QSOs. However, when I saw the information on JT65A, I was intrigued. I downloaded the program and the Bozo's Guide (Yes, I am a Bozo) and after playing around with it for about a day, I finally got it to work. My first QSO was with ZS6WN and I have already worked a number of European stations along with JA and VK stations. I have copied a few W's but have not been able to get any to come back to me. The main problem I had getting the software to work correctly was realizing that I needed to push the soundcard output gain to almost maximum. Running PSK31 on WinWarbler is much more sensitive and I have to keep the gain way down when running that. This mode is great! At this point in the sunspot cycle, it is difficult to make QSO's in this part of the world. Sure, it can be done, but the openings are short and few. This mode really helps make QSOs when the rest of the band is completely quiet! I will be on again tonight (around 1000 Z to 1500 Z) on 20 m. Maybe this time I will work a US station or two this time! 73, Bob, 9V1QQ
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Singapore : New on PSK31 and JT65A
My frequency is VFO 14.075,700 LA5VNA Steinar Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Bob I think I copied your call sign yesterday, but I was at work and could not answer you. Are you QRV right now? I am calling on 14.076 LA5VNA Steinar Bob Fabrizio wrote: Thanks Andy. I have been reading this group for awhile now and finally decided to jump in and see if I could make the JT65A stuff work. It was fun getting it running but it was even more fun seeing the callsigns come up. It seemed like there were a few other signals there because I would copy a RO or RRR seemingly by itself occasionally. I wish I had heard the VE7CUS call but I did not. Perhaps I will catch him tonight and I will look for you as well. I am glad that my presence is of interest to people, the thrill of working them is definitely mutual. If anyone wants a sked, just send me an email. 73, Bob, 9V1QQ --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the group Bob. When I got out of work today and checked the lcoal 2M repeater, your presence on JT65A HF was being discussed, seems you were in QSO with VE7CUS, or at least he was calling you. I hope to find you 1000-1500 UTC today. Andy K3UK --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Bob Fabrizio bob@ wrote: I recently got my new Navigator interface and was able to get on PSK31 without much trouble using it and DXLabs WinWarbler. I already made a number of QSOs. However, when I saw the information on JT65A, I was intrigued. I downloaded the program and the Bozo's Guide (Yes, I am a Bozo) and after playing around with it for about a day, I finally got it to work. My first QSO was with ZS6WN and I have already worked a number of European stations along with JA and VK stations. I have copied a few W's but have not been able to get any to come back to me. The main problem I had getting the software to work correctly was realizing that I needed to push the soundcard output gain to almost maximum. Running PSK31 on WinWarbler is much more sensitive and I have to keep the gain way down when running that. This mode is great! At this point in the sunspot cycle, it is difficult to make QSO's in this part of the world. Sure, it can be done, but the openings are short and few. This mode really helps make QSOs when the rest of the band is completely quiet! I will be on again tonight (around 1000 Z to 1500 Z) on 20 m. Maybe this time I will work a US station or two this time! 73, Bob, 9V1QQ
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Singapore : New on PSK31 and JT65A
Hi Bob, The time you was on I had to take care of my to twins so I lost you . What about trying same time tomorrow ( 11:00 UTC) ? I will be on the same frequency : VFO 14.075,700 LA5VNA Steinar Bob Fabrizio wrote: Steinar, I am QRV now and calling you. Bob, 9V1QQ --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My frequency is VFO 14.075,700 LA5VNA Steinar Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Bob I think I copied your call sign yesterday, but I was at work and could not answer you. Are you QRV right now? I am calling on 14.076 LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Singapore : New on PSK31 and JT65A
Hi Bob, I will try to explain this in my Norwegian-English way. Should I normally listen with it unchecked to search the larger subband?. Get in mind that I am a complete bozo, but my experience is that when the frequency is crowded and the subband is to large only the big guns is coming through . In Europe we have some hams using more the 100W in this weak power mode, and they are drowning hams outside EU. So the conclusion is, I prefer a smaller subband . I set the TOL to 100 Hz, and I am never right on 14.076 but always some few Hz away. I will explain why later. If it is unchecked, does the green bar in SpecJT make any difference? I don't think so. The way I understand this is that the program search the green bar to see if it can find a signal regardless if the freeze is unchecked or not. If it is unchecked it has -+ 600 Hz to scan. Does clicking somewhere in SpecJT or the other graph actually set the real transmit frequency? This is an easy one. The answer is no. The clicking only affect your receiving. It is your VFO that set your transmit frequency. The sync tone will be at 1270.5 Hz . in SpecTJ. You can set this to zero by choosing JT65 DF axis in the SpecTJ menu . I (almost) always pick a frequency a few Hz away from the main 14.076. In that way it is easier to find me in the crowd. I hope this was understandable ;) Here is an quick and dirty guide to capture LA5VNA this afternoon: Set the VFO on 14.075,700, set the TOL at 50Hz, and start listen after me at 11:00 UTC. If the frequency is free I will start calling exact 11:00 ( Tx first checked ) . Hope to see you there Bob. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar . Bob Fabrizio wrote: Hi Steinar, I will look for you again today. I am still getting the hang of this software and mode so it may well be my fault that I did not hear you. If I know the time and freq. I think I can set it to do aggressive deep search on a narrow freq. window. I am still not clear on how having freeze checked vs. unchecked works. Should I normally listen with it unchecked to search the larger subband? If it is unchecked, does the green bar in SpecJT make any difference? Does clicking somewhere in SpecJT or the other graph actually set the real transmit frequency? Sorry to be asking basic questions but it doesn't seem clear from the documentation and guides. Also, I am on Skype as bobfabrizio. Feel free to ping me to met me know you are trying to get me. 73 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, The time you was on I had to take care of my to twins so I lost you . What about trying same time tomorrow ( 11:00 UTC) ? I will be on the same frequency : VFO 14.075,700 LA5VNA Steinar Bob Fabrizio wrote: Steinar, I am QRV now and calling you. Bob, 9V1QQ --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: My frequency is VFO 14.075,700 LA5VNA Steinar Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Bob I think I copied your call sign yesterday, but I was at work and could not answer you. Are you QRV right now? I am calling on 14.076 LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] Australia in JT65A mode @ 14.076
122600 5 -11 0.0 54 1 * CQ VK2BOD QF561 0 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] TAIWAN in JT65A mode @ 14.076
Hi 144600 2 -27 2.7 -22 4 * CQ BX1AD PL04 1 0 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] S/N Multipsk figures -- JT65A vs Olivia and others
Hi Patrick, Are you thinking about incorporate J65A in Multipsk? It would be great LA5VNA Steinar Patrick Lindecker wrote: Hello to all, _Comparizon with S/N Multipsk figures._ According to JT65 specifications, this mode decodes with few errors down to -23 dB, with a normalized band of 2.5 KHz. All Multipsk figures are normalized with a band of 3 KHz. -23 dB in 2.5 KHz is about -24 dB in 3 KHz band (-23.792 dB exactly). This figure of -24 dB can be compared to Olivia 250-8 which has a minimum S/N of -14 dB. So JT65 is 10 dB better or 10 times better. But of course JT65 is much slower that Olivia 250-8. The only modes which are close to JT65 are: * THROBX: Lowest S/N: -18,5 dB for the 1 baud, -17.5 dB for the 2 bauds * PSKAM10: Lowest S/N : -19.5 dB In conclusion JT65 is better (under S/N criteria) that any modes in Multipsk. 73 Patrick - Original Message - *From:* Tony mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 21, 2007 9:25 AM *Subject:* [digitalradio] Path Simulator tests -- JT65A vs Olivia and others All: I used Pathsim to compare the sensitivity of JT65A vs MFSK, PSK31 and OLIVIA using AWGN to alter the SNR. I ran direct-path with no ionospheric disturbance. The chat modes decoded with error-free print down to -12 to -14db SNR. The JT65A mode decoded at -27db SNR (signal inaudible). Assuming the Pathsim white noise measurments were accurate, I think it's safte to say that JT65 is capable of decoding much weaker signals than the others. Would be interesting to see how it does with simulated ionospheric disturbances. 73 Tony - KT2Q
Re: [digitalradio] 12M Deep Search/ Straight talk on JT65a
Hi John I have be monitoring 24.910 almost the hole day with no luck, but I was able to work South Africa on 40meter (7.045 USB) with my 12 m dipole right now. The antenna is about 8 meter above the ground and I was using 75W. 193700 3 -21 0.1 -8 3 * LA5VNA ZS6WAB KG461 10 193900 3 -22 0.1 -8 3 * LA5VNA ZS6WAB KG461 10 193900 3 -22 0.1 -8 3 * LA5VNA ZS6WAB KG461 10 194100 0 -24 -0.5 -27 25 194300 10 -19-9 3 RO 194500 7 -17 0.3 -8 3 * -27DB TU 73 1 0 LA5VNA Steinar John GM4SLV wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:58:12 -0400 Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:andrewobrie%40gmail.com wrote: John, name is Andy and am in FN02hk . I have been monitoring 12M while watching footy on the telly but just checked and see no received signals from anyone on 12M. I will transmit for a while and see if anyone picks me up. Andy. Thanks for listening/looking Andy. I'll start an HF oriented CALL3.TXT file and distribute it via the files section on the yahoo group page. Already people are starting to email me Callsign Locator pairs. The file actually has more fields available for each entry (it's a comma seperated text file), if you look through it, and some fields are for personal/equipment details too, as well as the EME field. I've been calling CQ on 24.910 since 1608 UTC (time now 1730 UTC) and in that time have seen nothing during the second minute RX periods. I'll leave it for a while longer... John GM4SLV IP90gg
Re: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......
Applaud Steinar LA5VNA John Bradley wrote: Yawn. How about you move this ARRL rant somewhere else and let's stick to digital radio stuff? We've heard all this before , and still remain totally baffled over the US ham's love of rules!! John VE5MU - Original Message - *From:* bruce mallon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:43 PM *Subject:* RE: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up .. 1) Who are you talking to ? No one by the name BRFUCE here must be a lost digital bit at 100 khz wide 2.4 ghz digi . 2) THEY are the ARRL 3)THEY are supose to do the will of the members 4)THEY don't seem intrested in doing THAT. 5) THEY should be asking for the members not the members have to ask THEM. 6) OR THEY ARE USELESS . --- John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:k8ocl%40hotmail.com wrote: Brfuce, __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/778 - Release Date: 4/27/2007 1:39 PM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL wake up ......
I know there is a group of you who do not like discussions of digital issues of these types (..) . Well , let me quote John VE5MU : We've heard all this before . This extreme ARRL/FCC focus has insignificant interest outside US. What will happen if Norwegian hams start spaming this group with Norwegian rules? Why not use: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FCC-US/ or this one: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigiMode_HF_Band_Plans/ ? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The petition was primarily intended to restrict modes based upon bandwidth. Looking at this from an HF perspective, I used to think this was a good compromise to take, and even thought of myself as being progressive for supporting this approach. After listening to those who have experienced increased freedom in other parts of the world, often on this group, I am much less supportive. I know there is a group of you who do not like discussions of digital issues of these types, and sharing this information with new people coming on the group, but there are few other ways to find this out through the democratic process which requires each one of us to sift and winnow until we determine what makes sense to us. And our views may change over time, if we are willing to listen to others and make an informed decision. I like to think that the members of groups such as this are much better informed than the average ham. The claim that hams want a mostly unregulated environment is not factual. Most of us want an orderly system of some kind that allows for experimentation but does not penalize the majority of users. If we went to a BW restricted approach what would change? It would prevent wide digital modes from interfering with narrow modes at the lower parts of the bands, although they don't tend to do that now, particularly in the Extra Class portions. The voice modes are not going to fit in a 500 Hz BW, which is the next step up in size, so that would really not change much from what we have now with an admixture of text digital modes at the upper parts of the text data sub bands. The one hope that I had was that we would have wide areas in the phone/fax/image sub bands that would allow text data to be mixed with voice and image data. From my perspective, this is the ONLY thing that I see of real value in the BW proposal. The irony is that the ARRL has said that they intend to develop band plans that would prevent that from happening! That is when I really had to reconsider this whole approach. What possible benefit would it have on the HF bands? The main group that is upset in the extreme is the Winlink 2000 folks who believe it is nearly the end of the world without moving in the direction they expected. They believe that the situation is intolerable that they are being squeezed into the small subbands for their wide Pactor 3 mode and can not expand further. As their administrator put it recently Over 95 percent of the Winlink 2000 operation is within the Auto sub-bands. Also, the view is that Winlink 2000 has NO MORE ROOM on the Amateur bands for its current daily operations much less EmComm or any other expansion. They say this even though they could operate ANYPLACE they want to in the text digital sub bands as long as they operate 500 Hz or less in width. And this is a much more efficient use of spectrum in most cases when you consider our shared frequencies. As it is we lost text digital spectrum on 80 and 40. Even under the withdrawn ARRL proposal, there would not have been ANY wide modes (3 kHz) below 3650. Now we don't even have anything for digital above 3600! What I think Winlink 2000 really wanted badly was the FCC to adopt the change of 97.221 to read: (c) On 160 through 12 meters, a station transmitting a RTTY or data emission may operate under automatic control except it is not permitted to initiate a communication. This is what is known as semi-automatic operation. They initially even tried to stop all fully automatic operation to eliminate any possible competition by AX.25 packet or other automatic forwarding systems, . (Note: This was based upon the ARRL Committee that came up with recommendations to the board. This committee was a stacked deck with pro Winlink 2000 members AND it even had two owners of the Winlink 2000 system on the committee! A dark day for democratic decision making indeed). Thankfully, the Board of Directors saw through some of this and rescinded their decision to eliminate fully automatic stations). Who else really lost anything on HF with the withdrawal of the ARRL proposal? 73, Rick, KV9U jgorman01 wrote: I must be one of the stupid folks that have a misconception about what the withdrawn petition was to accomplish. Could you enlighten us on just exactly what modes are being blocked by the current regulations. What bands do these modes operate on? What is the purpose of the blocked modes? The
Re: [digitalradio] Teaser... new mode
Hi Andy, Any news about this new digital protocol ? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Andrew O'Brien wrote: OK, now that you have bought the new Harry Potter book, what more is there to look forward to with excitement. A new digital protocol is due to be tested in the next few weeks that will be of interest to many. Watch this space . Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: ALE Instant Messaging
Yes! It working :) Thanks! The only problem now is to find someone to test with.. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar expeditionradio skrev: Hi Steinar, For testing purposes, change your Sounding Period to 10 minutes. Start scanning [] the channels. Now, starting scan channels, it should start sending your Report within one or two minutes. Be sure you have [x]REPORT box checked in Config141 Be sure you have RPT net address in the GPR Address. Be sure you have your message in the report Manual Text. 73 Bonnie KQ6XA --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bonnie, I must be the dumbest HAM on the planet. I am using PC-ALE ver. 1062H Alpha, and trying to find this SEND REPORT button without luck. When I press the SEND RPT button, nothing happens. What are I doing wrong? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar expeditionradio skrev: Andy k3UK wrote: what about... ... messages like K3UK QRV for any digital mode or K3UK looking for Delaware WAS digital or even WA0JAB , John are you around tonight de K3UK . Simple one or two line instant messages. Crazy ? Hi Andy, The ALE network is set up to do exactly what you want. Use the Report function in PCALE. Your IM message will go out over the air on the various ALE HF channels, and as it gets picked up by all the other stations, it will show up instantly on the web, on ALE CHANNEL ZERO: http://hflink.net/qso http://hflink.net/qso http://hflink.net/qso http://hflink.net/qso Here's how to set it up: ConfigurationMilStd188-141REPORT In the GPR Address: RPT Enter your Manual Text Looking for Delaware. Press OK. Check the Report box. Press OK. Press [] to scan. Press SEND REPORT button to transmit your message. Your message will get propagated through the network. You can change the manual text as you like. Bonnie KQ6XA
Re: [digitalradio] Re: So there I was -
Hi, If this is such a great mode, I wonder why so many call it a pactor pest or a plague. Maybe the answer is on this website: http://www.digipan.net/ Have a nice day. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Demetre SV1UY skrev: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Demetre, I was not suggesting that hams would be using $5000 modems. I won't even buy the relatively low cost SCS modem for ~ $1000. The reason of course, is that we now have amateur sound card modes, and are likely to have more of them in the future, and they are for the most part at no additional cost for the hardware or software, once you buy the computer. My point was that the military and commercial users are buying these insanely expensive products and they may not work all that well:( Pactor 2 and 3 are commercial modes. It requires hardware/firmware/software that is available only from the commercial manufacturer. Same with the HAL Communications products, especially Clover 2000, which are almost never used by radio amateurs. The earlier Clover II was used by some of us but fell by the wayside as it was, quite frankly, was not that good. Even earlier was the Clover mode (Clover and Clover II were both invented by Ray, W7GHM), but that was strictly an amateur mode requiring complicated equipment and was mostly a proof of concept that then was carried over to the commercial world as Clover II, but on a DSP board instead of phase locking your frequency to a standard time signal. The sound card modes are primarily amateur modes whether MT-63, Olivia, PSK variants, MFSK16, DominoEX, etc., etc., Same concept as when we had hardware/firmware systems that adapted X.25 and used it for amateur radio as AX.25. Same thing with Sitor being adapted for amateur use as Amtor. Now we have ALE, which was primarily used for commercial purposes and is now available as a sound card mode and it is freely available and can work without the expensive hardware. If it only used hardware from commercial sources, ALE would rarely be used on amateur frequencies. If Pactor was the only new digital mode, more of us would spend the money for the hardware/firmware system, but because it is only one niche player, we thankfully don't have to do this. I abandoned Pactor (Hal P-38 card) many years ago and would never move back to hardware solutions again for amateur use. Does Pactor 3 really work well at -18 dB? I would like to see some tests that show this, but have not found much on the internet. I understand that some hams compared Clover products and presented the information at a TAPR/ARRL DCC some time back, but I never heard any details. Are you able to TX 2400 baud data modes in Greece? If so, how about testing some of the sound card ALE modes and letting us know how they work? 73, Rick, KV9U Hi Rick, Well it all depends on what is an amateur mode. Is it a mode which is free of charge? I wish I also had a free of charge radio and computer, but this is not possible unfortunatelly. Also the old modes such as CLOVER, GTOR etc, are not used anymore because they were not performing at all under noisy conditions (kept on loosing the link) and radio amateurs stopped using them. PACTOR 3 really flies in good conditions (5200 b/s) and performs poorly down to -18dB (theoretically) but it holds the link. As far as I know there is no other mode today that does that on HF, not even the military modes that use the $5000 modems. I personally use PACTOR 3 quite a lot and nearly everyday when I am away from home, especially in some remote island (we have 3000 of them in Greece and you are welcome to come for a holiday) in our long summers. As for the soundcard modes, I also enjoy using them but really they are very slow and they are OK for rag chewing not for file transfer, e-mail, etc. I have yet to see a decent mode that performs half as good as PACTOR 3 for file transfer on HF. They do not even have ARQ, except PSKMAIL but then again PSKMAIL uses PSK125 with a speed of 100bps or even less. This is very slow compared to 5200 bps that PACTOR 3 can do and that can keep the link, by sacrificing performance and slowing down considerably even down to -18dB. But at least it can do it and it can keep the filetransfer where no other mode can. Personally although I am very interested in Digital QSOs on HF it is was never my primary interest. That is why I have chosen PACTOR many years ago for my digital HF filetransfers, e-mail, etc. If I were interested in QSOs only I probably wouldn't have bought PACTOR 3 because the soundcard digital modes are all you need. I have tested RFSM2400 quite a few times and found that unless I could hear very well the signal of my corresponded I could not decode anything, and then it was very touchy to any noise on HF. Since HF are very
Re: [digitalradio] Re: So there I was -
Demetre, the problem is not the bandwidth, but as Skip Teller, KH6TY try to point out: The number of times PACTOR stations override PSK31, PSK63, or CW communications is so great that the probability is that they seldom, if ever, listen first in their passion to use the ham bands as an automatic gateway to send and receive email to and from the Internet.. I have experienced this myself many times on 20m, and because of its great capability to keep the link, it never give up but squeeze you out. You will have this pitiful meeting with pactor almost all over the digital segment of 20m, from 14.065 to 14.120 with some small gaps.. I have no trouble understanding those who call this a pest. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Demetre SV1UY skrev: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, If this is such a great mode, I wonder why so many call it a pactor pest or a plague. Maybe the answer is on this website: http://www.digipan.net/ http://www.digipan.net/ Have a nice day. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Hi Steinar, With all due respect it is a matter of preference. If you are serious about digital filetransfer, e-mail networking etc, then PACTOR 3 is the way to go at the moment. If you want Digital QSOs then PSK31 is OK. I use both, but I never call any mode a pest. After all Pactor 3 is in the in wideband portion of the band now. PACTOR 2 is where all the other DIGITAL modes are. RFSM2400 is in the wideband portion of the band too. Is this a Pest too? Is SSTV a pest too? Is DIGSSTV a pest too? Is FAX a pest too? Is Contesting a pest too? Is SSB voice a pest too? Don't tell me about the Winlink Mboxes that do not listen before they transmit because the SCS controllers have the option to listen before transmit. It is the Winlink people that have decided not to use it. 73 de Demetre SV1UY
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE
Hi Rick Calling on 14.109 now LA5VNA Steinar Rick skrev: Nothing heard here in midwest U.S. but am calling CQ in FAE mode with Multipsk at 1800 Z. 73, Rick, KV9U Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi all, I am scanning 14.109 and 14.112 with multipsk in 141A mode. Is the someone out there who wants to try to contact me in ARQ FAE ? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] [hflink] ARQ FAE
Hi Patrick Unfortunately, I will not be QRV this weekend . Me and my family are going to visit my complete crazy mother-in-law, and it will be no time for radio. What about tomorrow, or maybe Thursday evening? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Patrick Lindecker skrev: Hello Steinar, We can plan a sked saturday if you want. You can also beacon APRS positions in FAE (non ARQ in that case), for test. To Demetre, the speed is 125 bauds as the other ALE modes. 73 Patrick - Original Message - *From:* Steinar Aanesland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2007 7:14 PM *Subject:* [hflink] ARQ FAE Hi all, I am scanning 14.109 and 14.112 with multipsk in 141A mode. Is the someone out there who wants to try to contact me in ARQ FAE ? I know this is a not standard ALE mode, but I take a change and post this question here anyway ;) 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] [hflink] ARQ FAE
Hi Patrick and Demeter. Is it possible to do the test later Thursday evening? I have to take care of some personal business. I will be Qrv from 1830 UTC Thursday. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Patrick Lindecker skrev: Hello Steinar and Demeter, I will call CQ ARQ FAE Thursday evening at 17h00 UTC on 3617 KHz until 17h30. You must have the Multipsk 4.4 version, click on ARQ FAE and open the Aux functions. I will send a RS ID so put RS ID detection ON, so you will be automatically tuned on my frequency. To answer, simply click on Answer. After connection, it is as in Packet or in Pax. To disconnect click End. There is an autocalibration of the sound card (Sampling freq). I'm QRP so my signal will be weak... 73 Patrick - Original Message - *From:* Steinar Aanesland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2007 10:15 PM *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] [hflink] ARQ FAE Hi Patrick Unfortunately, I will not be QRV this weekend . Me and my family are going to visit my complete crazy mother-in-law, and it will be no time for radio. What about tomorrow, or maybe Thursday evening? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Patrick Lindecker skrev: Hello Steinar, We can plan a sked saturday if you want. You can also beacon APRS positions in FAE (non ARQ in that case), for test. To Demetre, the speed is 125 bauds as the other ALE modes. 73 Patrick - Original Message - *From:* Steinar Aanesland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:saanes%40broadpark.no *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:hflink%40yahoogroups.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:hflink%40yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2007 7:14 PM *Subject:* [hflink] ARQ FAE Hi all, I am scanning 14.109 and 14.112 with multipsk in 141A mode. Is the someone out there who wants to try to contact me in ARQ FAE ? I know this is a not standard ALE mode, but I take a change and post this question here anyway ;) 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] Re: [hflink] ARQ FAE
Hi all, It was extremely heavy qrm on the frequency. I am now trying another antenna. and still sending CQ. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Demetre SV1UY skrev: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Demetre, Please let me know, the frequency you mentioned is it display frequency and are you going to use LSB or USB? It is the display frequency (3617 KHz) on your XCVR and in USB. Note: you can also send files without errors (but small files except if you are very patient). 73 Patrick Hi Patrick, I heard nothing unfortunately. Have you had any luck with Steinar? Perhaps we should try 40 meters next time. My aerial is not very efficient on 80. I have a question, Why my TX/RX tones are on 1625Hz when I am on ARQ FAE mode? I have setup 1500 Hz in the config window and when I am on any other mode it is indeed 1500 Hz. 73 de Demetre SV1UY
Re: [digitalradio] Re: [hflink] ARQ FAE
Demetre, Care for trying on 14.109,5 now ? LA5VNA Steinar Demetre SV1UY skrev: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Demetre, Please let me know, the frequency you mentioned is it display frequency and are you going to use LSB or USB? It is the display frequency (3617 KHz) on your XCVR and in USB. Note: you can also send files without errors (but small files except if you are very patient). 73 Patrick Hi Patrick, I heard nothing unfortunately. Have you had any luck with Steinar? Perhaps we should try 40 meters next time. My aerial is not very efficient on 80. I have a question, Why my TX/RX tones are on 1625Hz when I am on ARQ FAE mode? I have setup 1500 Hz in the config window and when I am on any other mode it is indeed 1500 Hz. 73 de Demetre SV1UY
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE QSO
OK, trying 10.136,500 Calling CQ now LA5VNA Steinar Demetre SV1UY skrev: Hi Steinar, If you are still at your PC can we try 10MHZ? 73 de Demetre SV1UY
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE QSO
Nothing here Demetre, but I will monitor 14.109,50 tomorrow. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Steinar Aanesland skrev: OK, trying 10.136,500 Calling CQ now LA5VNA Steinar Demetre SV1UY skrev: Hi Steinar, If you are still at your PC can we try 10MHZ? 73 de Demetre SV1UY
[digitalradio] QSO in ARQ FAE
Hi all, I am calling CQ in ARQ FAE mode on 10.136,5 now. Please answer if you hear me :) 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] Re: QSO in ARQ FAE
Hi Demetre, I heard you but you was to weak. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Demetre SV1UY skrev: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am calling CQ in ARQ FAE mode on 10.136,5 now. Please answer if you hear me :) 73 de LA5VNA Steinar OK I am calling you now. 73 de SV1UY
Re: [digitalradio] Re: QSO in ARQ FAE
QSY 14.109,5. I have a better antenna for 20m la5vna Steinar Demetre SV1UY skrev: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Demetre, I heard you but you was to weak. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar OK still calling but now on 100 Watts. Will stop in 1 minute. 73 de SV1UY
Re: [digitalradio] Re: QSO in ARQ FAE
Arggg, I had you Demetre, but my wife come and disturbed me :( . and now you are gone.. [20h14m05.41s] [14 109,500] [COMMAND] [20h14m05s] [FAE NAK-01-n=16] [20h14m06s] CQ SV1UYLA5VNA [20h14m06.11s] [CRC OK] [20h14m13.42s] [14 109,500] [End of TX] 15 char.-01-CQ DE LA5VNA [20h14m15.31s] [14 109,500] [COMMAND] [20h14m15s] [FAE NAK-01-n=16] [20h14m16s] CQ SV1UYLA5VNA [20h14m16.30s] [CRC OK] [20h14m23.61s] [14 109,500] [End of TX] 15 char.-01-CQ DE LA5VNA [20h14m25.53s] [14 109,500] [COMMAND] [20h14m25s] [FAE NAK-01-n=16] [20h14m26s] CQ SV1UYLA5VNA [20h14m26.50s] [CRC OK] [20h14m33.83s] [14 109,500] [End of TX] 15 char.-01-CQ DE LA5VNA [20h14m35.72s] [14 109,500] [COMMAND] [20h14m35s] [FAE NAK-01-n=16] [20h14m36s] CQ SV1UYLA5VNA [20h14m36.42s] [CRC OK] I am going qrt now. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Demetre SV1UY skrev: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QSY 14.109,5. I have a better antenna for 20m la5vna Steinar OK Steinar I am there now, But 40m is the best band for this time of the day. SF=67 which is too low. 73 de SV1UY
Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Re: [digitalradio] RFSM8000]]
Hi all, It was a lot of RFSM2400 activity on 3588 kHz in Europe yesterday. 73 de Steinar LA5VNA Les Keppie skrev: Hi Rick Well so far with the testing we are doing on RFSM8000 it appears to work very well - below are some transfer figures from the program using the Non-standard mode .3 to .2.7 khz wide application band in not all that good of condition - freq 10137 usb path distance approx 1000 plus klm s/n changing up and down quite dramatically FIGURES BELOW ARE FOR THE FILE TRANSFER SIZE AND TIME TAKEN Connecting to 'VK7DIK'... - 28/09/2007 - 12:51:04 PM Connected to 'VK7DIK'. - 28/09/2007 - 12:51:11 PM RFSM-8000, version 0.507, user license: BETA-TESTER - 28/09/2007 - 12:51:11 PM Maximum supported connection speed - 8000 bit/sec - 28/09/2007 - 12:51:11 PM 'VK7DIK' accept FTP-requests. - 28/09/2007 - 12:51:27 PM 'VK7DIK' accept MAIL-requests. - 28/09/2007 - 12:51:27 PM Request for sending file '33.jpg' to 'VK7DIK'... - 28/09/2007 - 12:53:56 PM Sending file '33.jpg', size 29 bytes, to 'VK7DIK'... - 28/09/2007 - 12:54:05 PM 'VK7DIK' ready for next part of file, new part: 2 - 28/09/2007 - 1:17:25 PM File '33.jpg' sended succesfully, all time 1566 sec, average speed 1498 bits/sec - 28/09/2007 - 1:20:11 PM AND THE CORRESPONDING PAKET TRANSFER LOG Transeive block, mode 4000 long - 28/09/2007 - 12:54:07 PM Sended 358 packets Receive block, mode 500 long, S/N: 15 (14/16) - 28/09/2007 - 12:55:08 PM All packs: 2, good info: 0, good arq: 1 / 30, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 1000 long - 28/09/2007 - 12:55:10 PM Sended 88 packets Receive block, mode 500 long, S/N: 12 (10/14) - 28/09/2007 - 12:56:09 PM All packs: 4, good info: 0, good arq: 3 / 86, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 2666 long - 28/09/2007 - 12:56:11 PM Sended 236 packets Receive block, mode 1000 long, S/N: 14 (13/15) - 28/09/2007 - 12:57:11 PM All packs: 7, good info: 0, good arq: 6 / 223, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 4000 long - 28/09/2007 - 12:57:13 PM Sended 358 packets Receive block, mode 2000 long, S/N: 16 (15/16) - 28/09/2007 - 12:58:14 PM All packs: 11, good info: 0, good arq: 9 / 351, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 4000 long - 28/09/2007 - 12:58:16 PM Sended 358 packets Receive block, mode 2000 long, S/N: 15 (15/16) - 28/09/2007 - 12:59:16 PM All packs: 11, good info: 0, good arq: 10 / 362, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 4000 long - 28/09/2007 - 12:59:18 PM Sended 358 packets Receive block, mode 1000 long, S/N: 12 (11/14) - 28/09/2007 - 1:00:19 PM All packs: 10, good info: 0, good arq: 9 / 351, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 4000 long - 28/09/2007 - 1:00:21 PM Sended 358 packets Receive block, mode 1000 long, S/N: 17 (15/18) - 28/09/2007 - 1:01:21 PM All packs: 6, good info: 0, good arq: 5 / 179, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 2000 long - 28/09/2007 - 1:01:23 PM Sended 177 packets Receive block, mode 500 long, S/N: 17 (16/17) - 28/09/2007 - 1:02:23 PM All packs: 4, good info: 0, good arq: 3 / 115, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 1000 long - 28/09/2007 - 1:02:25 PM Sended 88 packets Receive block, mode 500 long, S/N: 12 (10/13) - 28/09/2007 - 1:03:24 PM All packs: 4, good info: 0, good arq: 3 / 95, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 2000 long - 28/09/2007 - 1:03:26 PM Sended 177 packets Transeive block, mode 500 long - 28/09/2007 - 1:04:31 PM Sended 44 packets Receive block, mode 500 long, S/N: 12 (10/15) - 28/09/2007 - 1:05:30 PM All packs: 3, good info: 0, good arq: 2 / 43, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 2666 long - 28/09/2007 - 1:05:32 PM Sended 236 packets Receive block, mode 500 long, S/N: 15 (15/16) - 28/09/2007 - 1:06:33 PM All packs: 4, good info: 0, good arq: 3 / 117, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 4000 long - 28/09/2007 - 1:06:35 PM Sended 358 packets Receive block, mode 1000 long, S/N: 17 (16/18) - 28/09/2007 - 1:07:36 PM All packs: 10, good info: 0, good arq: 9 / 316, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 2666 long - 28/09/2007 - 1:07:38 PM Sended 236 packets Receive block, mode 1000 long, S/N: 17 (15/18) - 28/09/2007 - 1:08:37 PM All packs: 7, good info: 0, good arq: 6 / 229, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 4000 long - 28/09/2007 - 1:08:39 PM Sended 358 packets Receive block, mode 500 long, S/N: 17 (16/18) - 28/09/2007 - 1:09:40 PM All packs: 5, good info: 0, good arq: 3 / 97, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 2000 long - 28/09/2007 - 1:09:42 PM Sended 177 packets Receive block, mode 1000 long, S/N: 14 (13/16) - 28/09/2007 - 1:10:42 PM All packs: 7, good info: 0, good arq: 5 / 175, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 4000 long - 28/09/2007 - 1:10:44 PM Sended 358 packets Receive block, mode 2000 long, S/N: 11 (11/11) - 28/09/2007 - 1:11:45 PM All packs: 13, good info: 0, good arq: 9 / 330, bad packs: 0. Transeive block, mode 4000 long - 28/09/2007 - 1:11:47 PM Sended 358 packets Receive block, mode 500 long, S/N: 11 (10/12) -
[digitalradio] Re: [multipsk] Re: Tests in ARQ FAE
Hi Patrick, What about trying 10.136,500 later this evening ? The 30m is a lovely band free from contest qrm . 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Patrick Lindecker skrev: Hello to all, As there is a WW RTTY contest, the 14109.5 frequency is and will not be free. So this ARQ FAE test will be done another day. 73 Patrick - Original Message - *From:* Patrick Lindecker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September 28, 2007 11:21 PM *Subject:* Tests in ARQ FAE Hello to all, I will be QRV for tests to-morrow saturday morning in 14109.5 KHz USB at 10h00 UTC, for the ones interested. I will call CQ in ARQ FAE up to 10h30 UTC. A 4.4.2 Multipsk test version in a ZIP test package is available in my site. It contains the Multipsk test version (with ARQ FAE bugs fixed). http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_22_09_2007.ZIP http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_22_09_2007.ZIP Paste this adress in your Internet Explorer or equivalent. Download the file. Create a tempory folder (C:\TEST, for example), unzip the file in it and start C:\TEST\Multipsk.exe (the auxiliary files will be created automatically). 73 Patrick
Re: [digitalradio] Tests in ARQ FAE
Hi John, It is sad to inform you that the Norwegian HAM's are not allow to use the ALE mode (sounding, arq mode..) on 30m. We have only 1khz in bandwidth. It's a pity , because I like this contest free band. See you on 20m. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar - Original Message - From: John Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 1, 2007 0:25 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: [multipsk] Re: Tests in ARQ FAE To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steinar; I'll listen for you on 30m and 20M , on 10136.5 now but probably too late. Have heard Europe today so maybe band is improving, will sit on 14109.5 as of 0600Z tomorrow. See if you can get my station to answer John VE5MU - Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:57 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: [multipsk] Re: Tests in ARQ FAE Hi Patrick, What about trying 10.136,500 later this evening ? The 30m is a lovely band free from contest qrm . 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Patrick Lindecker skrev: Hello to all, As there is a WW RTTY contest, the 14109.5 frequency is and will not be free. So this ARQ FAE test will be done another day. 73 Patrick
[digitalradio] Overcrowded on 14109.5
Hi all, I would like to quot John VE5MU (ALE yes ... or no? digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:33:05 -0600) : On the subject of ALE; in my humble opinion some operators have become too focused on ALE, forgetting that ALE is the means to establish which stations available, and the best frequency to communicate from A to B. Once these are established, then other modes can be used to effect the actual communications. I don't want to be a policeman , I think it is to many of them already, but I have a wish. 14109.5 seems to be a bit overcrowded when everyone are sounding and trying to make a AMD qso. What about QSYing to another frequency when a contact is establish on 14109.5? 14112.0 is a great frequency. It is perfect for playing with Patrick's wonderful ARQ FAE mode. Don't flame me now . This is meant to be a constructive proposal. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] Overcrowded on 14109.5
Please please my HAM friends, don't destroy this thread with a new who owns a frequency fight. It's a never ending story, and you all know that. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] PACTOR-WIDE MODES-EMERGENCY COMMS: Cooling off period
Thanks Andy. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Andrew O'Brien skrev: The topic relating to automatic operations, PACTOR QRM, wide band, and the value of emergency services, requires a cooling off period. Have your say until 2359 UTC 19/10/07 , then I will halt all comments on this topic until something new emerges to the debate. Andy K3UK Owner.
[digitalradio] Testing Slowfeld on 30m
Hi all, I have a test transmission going on. The frequency is 10.140 and the mode is Slowfeld. I have been playing with qr in Slowfeld.for a while and it is great fun. This evening I am trying a new slowfeld software from Lionel Sear, G3PPT, I found on the web-page belonging to NL9222 Ko Versteeg. http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/soundcard/slowfeldxp.zip. The frequency will be 10.140 (dial 10.139) and 0.75 char/min mode. The power is very low , only 100mW, but it has already been picket up by my qr ham friend Peter pa1sdb. He has a screen grabber on his PC, and you can see the result here : http://members.home.nl/peter-knol/pa1sdb.jpg Would you give it a try to catch me? The beacon will be on for some hours. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar PS: I have seen this discussion about how to express yourself . Do not forget that not everyone have English as their mother tongue. I am writing in a Norwegian version of English, so I hope I am not completely far out in how to express ;)
Re: [digitalradio] Testing Slowfeld on 30m
Hi Andy, Great! I think I will let the beacon stay on for a few days, and will be very grateful for all reports I get. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Andrew O'Brien skrev: Steinar, I have the software and will listen for you this evening. Andy K3UK On 10/21/07, *Steinar Aanesland* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a test transmission going on. The frequency is 10.140 and the mode is Slowfeld. I have been playing with qr in Slowfeld.for a while and it is great fun. This evening I am trying a new slowfeld software from Lionel Sear, G3PPT, I found on the web-page belonging to NL9222 Ko Versteeg. http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/soundcard/slowfeldxp.zip. http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Enl9222/soundcard/slowfeldxp.zip. The frequency will be 10.140 (dial 10.139) and 0.75 char/min mode. The power is very low , only 100mW, but it has already been picket up by my qr ham friend Peter pa1sdb. He has a screen grabber on his PC, and you can see the result here : http://members.home.nl/peter-knol/pa1sdb.jpg http://members.home.nl/peter-knol/pa1sdb.jpg Would you give it a try to catch me? The beacon will be on for some hours. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar PS: I have seen this discussion about how to express yourself . Do not forget that not everyone have English as their mother tongue. I am writing in a Norwegian version of English, so I hope I am not completely far out in how to express ;) -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com http://www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ)
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Testing Slowfeld on 30m
Hi Andy , I have a confession to make. I have not tried the CW ID . To operate strictly correct, I probably should. ( I hope I am not starting a new circle quarrel now). I am using the micro Keyer from microHam and my PTT works perfect . Later this evening I will test the cw id function, right now is the several HAMs in eu that are trying to catch me, so I don't want to mess it up, if you see what I mean. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Andrew O'Brien skrev: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andy, Great! I think I will let the beacon stay on for a few days, and will be very grateful for all reports I get. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar By the way Steinar, does the software do the CW ID correctly for you? When I press CW ID, the software just sends the number three from my call, no letters. Also , the PTT does not appear to work for some odd reason, I have tried by DTR and RTS and neither work . I can still transmit though, via a vox setting. I just did a test transmission on 14074 at 3 characters per second. Probably made all those on 14074 wonder was the new noise was. I will look for you on 30M when the gray line favours us. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Testing Slowfeld on 30m
Hi Andy, Take a look at this side: http://digilander.libero.it/i2ndt/grabber/grabber-compendium.htm It is a collections of grabber's on 30m . As you probably know , here is a very special activity going on in a small segment of 30m band, testing out various qrpp modes . The segment is only 100Hz (+/- some Hz wide). It is from 10.140,000 to 10.140,100. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Steinar Aanesland skrev: Hi Andy , I have a confession to make. I have not tried the CW ID . To operate strictly correct, I probably should. ( I hope I am not starting a new circle quarrel now). I am using the micro Keyer from microHam and my PTT works perfect . Later this evening I will test the cw id function, right now is the several HAMs in eu that are trying to catch me, so I don't want to mess it up, if you see what I mean. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Andrew O'Brien skrev: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andy, Great! I think I will let the beacon stay on for a few days, and will be very grateful for all reports I get. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar By the way Steinar, does the software do the CW ID correctly for you? When I press CW ID, the software just sends the number three from my call, no letters. Also , the PTT does not appear to work for some odd reason, I have tried by DTR and RTS and neither work . I can still transmit though, via a vox setting. I just did a test transmission on 14074 at 3 characters per second. Probably made all those on 14074 wonder was the new noise was. I will look for you on 30M when the gray line favours us. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion
Andy, where can I get NBEMS. Is it free to use ? On David's web side http://www.w1hkj.com , I only see something called flarq (fast light automatic repeat request) And what about making a windows version of this PSK (31, 63, 125, 250) ARQ mode? (no religious Linux/Windows quarrel now folks) 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Andrew O'Brien skrev: Omar, good evening. It is a program that uses PSK (31, 63, 125, 250) . It can use regular PSK for keyboard chats but you can also decide to use PSK with ARQ if you want to send a text file or email where accuracy is important. The software works only under Linux, so the authors have developed a boot disc that one uses in a Windows PC. You burn the ISO file to a CD and insert it in a CD ROM drive, the Linux operating system boots up. You select a keyboard setting for you country and a video monitor setting. When the software boots up, you need to select FL-digi and go to the CONFIG area, insert your callsign. In the config area you can also choose your soudncard settings and PTT/rig control settings. If you want to use the ARQ side of things, you click on FLARQ, when it boots up you must also insert your callsign in it's config area. Andy K3UK On 10/21/07, *Omar Shabsigh* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, What is NBEMS please? Omar YK1AO - Original Message - *From:* Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 20, 2007 4:52 AM *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion I too downloaded the .iso yesterday and immediately burned a CD to boot both of my computers. While I do not expect Linux to be able to properly drive my Samsung SyncMaster 225BW monitor to its native resolution, I can usually get by with one of the other resolutions. Even though not acceptable for normal use, it can work well enough for experimental use. The problem with both computers is that the program tends to lock up and crash or if it does key up I get a kind of machine gun sound in the audio coming from the sound card. This was also true of a previous version. Almost like an interruption in the stream. Now the curious thing is that in the past one one boot disk I was testing had another digital program which worked quite well. Could I possibly be correct that it was Digipan running under Wine? Even the audio settings were right on with that program, but on the same boot disk the main flDigi program would not run properly. Has anyone else had this problem? In order for PSKmail or NBEMS to even have any realistic chance at being used here in the U.S., it simply has to run under Windows at this time. Dual boots or Boot disk approaches are not adequate for practical use, although they can give you a feel for the program. Hopefully many of you are having better luck than I am. With a Windows version you could avoid the downsides of Linux. Although ten years from now it may be a different story, it was about ten years ago that I predicted that Linux OS would be a major desktop player in 5 years. You could say that I was a bit wrong on that call:( 73, Rick, KV9U Rud Merriam wrote: I just burned the CD. I will setup the laptop and rig to try on these frequencies and nearby. Probably operational in 20-30 minutes. Rud Merriam K5RUD ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX http://TheHamNetwork.net http://TheHamNetwork.net -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM To: DIGITALRADIO Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion Aside from 6M and 2M , where I had good results with NBEMS, I am anxious to try it on HF. I will assume that the low bands will make fast PSK too difficult but PSK125 and 63 with ARQ is worth testing on HF. NBEMS has a nice bacon feature , and a beacon feature too. I would like to suggest a 20M and 40M testing frequency for this weekend, I will suggest 14073 (dial frequency) and/or 7073 . Please QRL
[digitalradio] 30m Slowfeld beacon QRT
Hi all, Thank you all for your reports. The response has been overwhelming. Special thanks to those of you that have had the grabber's going on the net. It has been amazing to see my low power signal crawling over the screens. The beacon will be off for a while, but it will be back. Maybe in another weak signal mode. I am reading about WOLF now , it seems really interesting. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] Re: ALE400 – Narrow ba nd ALE mode now available
What is your point? LA5VNA Setinar Brian A skrev: So one gets the 60wpm of 170Hz shift RTTY for a 400 Hz bandwidth? 73 de Brian/K3KO --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Mark Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ALE400 – Narrow band ALE mode now available Patrick F6CTE has announced that a narrow band version of the popular Automatic Link Establishment (ALE) software is now available. On the HFLink Yahoo group he writes: For those interested in doing ALE and ARQ FAE using a narrow bandwidth (400 Hz), I have derived from the standard ALE a new ALE with a bandwidth of 400 Hz (instead of 2000 Hz) and which is called 'ALE400'. This ALE system has exactly the same functions as the standard ALE (in Multipsk) except that the: • bandwidth is 400 Hz (so ALE400 can be used where 500 Hz modes are permitted) • the speed (and consequently the text throughput) is 2.5 slower, • no fix frequency (it is as MFSK16, Olivia or DominoEX modes) • the S/N is 5 dB better: - 9 dB for AMD messages and Unproto - 11.5 dB (- 13.5 dB with many repetitions) for ARQ FAE For ARQ FAE, it has been added a compression system using a modified IZ8BLY (Nino) MFSK Varicode. So the text throughput (in ALE400) is typically 60 wpm (up to 107 mpm in bilateral and 63 characters frames). This test version in a ZIP test package is available in my site http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_28_10_2007.ZIP http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_28_10_2007.ZIP (copy and paste this address in Internet Explorer (or equivalent) Net address field). It contains the Multipsk test version, the help files (in English and French) and the specifications (in English) of the ARQ FAE mode (version 1.4). Create a temporary folder (C:\TEST, for example), unzip the files in it and start C:\TEST\TEST\Multipsk.exe (the auxiliary files will be created automatically). For the contextual help, click on the right button of the mouse, with the focus over the mode button ALE400. Use also the button hints (wait a fraction of second over a button). Hints: • if you are the Master (initiator of the CQ): confirm the RS ID transmission in Options (to permit an automatic tuning for other Hams), check Master on the Mode panel and, afterwards, push the button CQ • if you are the Slave (the Ham who answers): push the button RS ID detection (to permit your automatic tuning on CQ), check Slave on the Mode panel and, afterwards, push the button Answer. Both will push on the AFC button. Note: it rings on successful connexion (on both sides). 73 Patrick Related URL's HFLink Yahoo Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HFLink http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HFLink HFLink http://www.hflink.org/ http://www.hflink.org/ MultiPSK Website http://f6cte.free.fr/ http://f6cte.free.fr/ ALE400 Software - A Test version has been available at http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_28_10_2007.ZIP http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_28_10_2007.ZIP but like all test software it could be frequently updated. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: 10 MHz Amateur Radio balloon to Cross the Atlantic
and there is always a FCC policeman hiding in the bushes la5vna Steinar Brad skrev: Picky picky picky. So many naysayers around this group, it is a wonder anyone achieves anything new! --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, jgorman01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks to me like it should be operating on 28.20–28.30 MHz according to 97.203d. Also, if the balloons path goes over the National Radio Quiet Zone, 97.203(e)/97.3(a)(30) it looks like permission is supposed to be obtained. Lastly, does foreign operation come into play and the need for reciprocal licenses when the balloon reaches Europe? Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Rick Karlquist richard@ wrote: Mark Thompson wrote: - Forwarded Message From: John yp671@ Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 4:50:26 PM Subject: Balloon Launch 10 MHz Amateur Radio balloon to cross the Atlantic The balloon payload will include a GPS unit and CPU that will regulate the balloon's altitude and send telemetry on 10.123 MHz in CW and RTTY formats. The 10 MHz transmitter will run 3 watts output into a half wave dipole hung below the balloon. FCC part 97.203d says that this frequency (10.123) is not authorized for automatically controlled beacon stations. It is not clear that this balloon is under any kind of manual control. I see that telemetry is an OK 1 way transmission 97.111.b.7, but there is the question of control. Maybe someone can educate me how this is legal. Rick N6RK Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: digital voice within 100 Hz bandwidth
Is this the IVOX system:? http://downloads.pf.itd.nrl.navy.mil/ivox/ LA5VNA Steinar W2XJ skrev: Very low bitrate algorithms exist now. There are a few that operate from 200 bps to 600 bps. The Navy has software called IVOX that gets in this range. So you could transmit 16 QAM and hit the 100 HZ goal. The bigger problem would be getting it to survive propagation and survive receiver filtering. One would probably need to use a very narrow band OFDM scheme. It would be an interesting but do-able experiment. If it worked well, it would be a very worthwhile mode. Patrick Lindecker wrote: Hello Cesco, For information, I have tried to see if it was possible to transmit a speech through a 500 Hz channel using a digital transmission. I have decomposed the audio spectrum (but not through a FFT, but by intercorrelation to choose the carriers I wanted) in several carriers and associate to each carrier a level. Then I have tried to decrease the number of carriers N, the number of levels L and increase to the maximum the duration of intercorrelation T (the duration of an element of a speech), up to to find a just comprehensible speech. It's a compression of the information, up to the maximum possible. Above this limit, the speech can't be understood. After that, I do the reverse operation (equivalent to a FFT-1) and have not much that listening to the result. At each 1/T it was necessary to send NxL elements of information, which gives the final rate. This way is disappointed because you need much more information that you can transmit through a 500 Hz channel (for example: 23 carriers, 128 levels and T=40 ms). With 23 carriers, 8 levels and T=40 ms (which can be send through a 500 Hz channel), it is very difficult to understand a (French) speech. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: cesco12342000 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 4:26 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: digital voice within 100 Hz bandwidth I would be plased to have a complete list of the phonemes and corresponding audio files from different speakers. I fear 44 phonemes will not be enough to do a context-free analisis. The data rate will be closer to 200pbs i think, since you will have to transfer a magnitude component along with the phoneme index, and maybe also a pitch component. Think of the pitch raise in a question, this feature is important for understanding. The main problem will be the fft to phoneme table correlation i think ... but to work on this there must be a phoneme table first.
[digitalradio] The Spirit of Knoxville
Spirit of knoxville in the air at 15:02utc http://www.utarc.org/wiki/index.php/Icarus_X_Status Good hunting 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] FDMDV on 14.236
Hi, Anyone for digital voice qso 14.236? FDMDV Download: http://n1su.com/fdmdv/download.html melp_1400.dll Download:: http://www.ku7pdx.com/files/melp_dll.zip 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] Re: FDMDV on 14.236
With my excellent Norwegian-English ? hihi :) 73 de LA5VNA cesco12342000 skrev: Hi Steinar, Anyone for digital voice qso 14.236? I have uploaded a recording of your CQ call audio in the files- digitalvoice section.
Re: [digitalradio] FDMDV on 14.236
Hi Patrick Take a look at this pdf file. It describe the procedure in a straightforward way :) http://n1su.com/fdmdv/FDMDV_Docs_Rel_1.0_revised.pdf LA5VNA Steinar Patrick Lindecker skrev: Hello Steinar, I have two sound cards here, the first controlled in RX and the second controlled in TX. At the moment I'm hearing to a transmission, but how to tune it . Is it automatic? I'm QRV for a test. Tell me the time. 73 Patrick - Original Message - *From:* Steinar Aanesland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:20 AM *Subject:* [digitalradio] FDMDV on 14.236 Hi, Anyone for digital voice qso 14.236? FDMDV Download: http://n1su.com/fdmdv/download.html http://n1su.com/fdmdv/download.html melp_1400.dll Download:: http://www.ku7pdx.com/files/melp_dll.zip http://www.ku7pdx.com/files/melp_dll.zip 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
