[tdf-discuss] Re: Can I stop LibreOffice from converting Unicode into normal text
On 10.03.2015 01:50, mogens wrote: I am attemting to copy/paste a URL textstring into a hyperlink in a LibreOfficedocumentThe textstring (URL) contains Unicode characters e.g. %c3%a5However, Libre Office automatically converts the Unicode values into their Danish equivalent (å)That means that the hyperlink doesn't workHow can I stop this conversionThank you for any helpMogens Engsig-Karup I can't reproduce this. Could you give step-by-step instructions what you are doing? Did you try Edit Paste special Unformatted Code (or whatever it's called, I have no English version working) Nino BTW: as such questions are better sent to us...@global.libreoffice.org I'm cc'ing the users' list -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: How to Contact
On 09.03.2015 23:04, Socrates Piña wrote: Hi, is more important to me, contact LibreOffice discussion list in spanish languaje for a better comunication. Look here: http://es.libreoffice.org/recibe-ayuda/asistencia-comunitaria/ Regards, Nino -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: RfD: Non-corporate user representation?
Hi Thorsten, Am 16.12.2014 um 10:37 schrieb Thorsten Behrens: I think we all agree that every LibreOffice user is valued, and we very much appreciate them using our software -- at the end of the day, we're producing software _for_ our end users. [...] [...] The individual user though -- on average -- contributes just tiny amounts. So the big picture looks pretty much like Charles' tongue-in-cheek 'almost zero'. So basically you say the same here as Charles says, even if you seem to try to choose more diplomatic words ;-) But I accept that our views differ significantly, and as far as I can see, there's no room for convergence left. So we can stop our discussion at this point. I'm sorry you got this impression. I hope I could clarify a bit. My impression is exactly the same, so what you clarified is that depreciation of users is not Charles' personal mindset but a general thinking in TDF/LibreOffice community. And that is what I disagree with. In my eyes, users - yes, simple users - make a significant contribution when they just choose to use LibreOffice. So I am thankful to each single LibreOffice user, while I hear almost zero / just tiny amounts from your side. This makes me sad. As user, I feel not appreciated. I did not know that this is really your position. Therefore I proposed the representative role. But now I withdraw this proposal as it does not fit to your above-expressed attitude (which is not mine) towards (your?) users. I - for mine - do not believe that my view degrades the contributions of single individuals or payed fulltimers, au contraire: meritocracy in my eyes behaves like democracy here, it rates itself on its attitude to its weakest members ;-) Have a nice christmas. Nino -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] RfD: Non-corporate user representation?
Hi, AFAICS, TDF does not have any formal Joe Average user lobby. There are BoD, ESC, MC, AB - but the end user community only can send their opinions, needs and ideas to mailing lists or speak up informally in meetings. What about the idea of creating e.g. a User Interest Commitee (or board), which has an advisory role - similar to the AB? Could this help to better channelize / make visible the interests of normal users? There are highly competent people around in mailing lists and forums, who, at least to my believe, should be given a stronger voice than to just send a mail to a list. (I know, the big hurdle is to do it, but nevertheless wanted to express what I think/feel here as a starting point). Regards, Nino -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: RfD: Non-corporate user representation?
Hi Charles, thanks for your reply :) Am 05.12.2014 um 15:30 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: Le 05.12.2014 11:37, Nino Novak a écrit : Hi, AFAICS, TDF does not have any formal Joe Average user lobby. There are BoD, ESC, MC, AB - but the end user community only can send their opinions, needs and ideas to mailing lists or speak up informally in meetings. Yes... why is that a problem? :-) the bodies you mentioned are bodies that are formed out of people or entities contributing something to the project. This is not per se a problem, but here, the problem starts. You really seem to believe that somebody just using LibreOffice does not contribute anything. In my eyes, everybody downloading the software and starting to use it, *does* contribute. At least their time :-) For me this is somehow obvious. So my concern might come out of need of better appreciation of the simple user. In my eyes, they are part of the community, too - but without a voice, without a saying. Is this, what TDF stands for? What about the idea of creating e.g. a User Interest Commitee (or board), which has an advisory role - similar to the AB? Could this help to better channelize / make visible the interests of normal users? This is a valid concern; so far we have options for feedback that are summarized here: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/feedback/ but maybe we could check if these carry out the right information in an acceptable time. What I'm giving here is also feedback ;-) There are highly competent people around in mailing lists and forums, who, at least to my believe, should be given a stronger voice than to just send a mail to a list. Sure, they can contribute anything from bug reports to marketing materials, website bits, localizations, to code. See above - how much do you value contributing by just using the software? (I know, the big hurdle is to do it, but nevertheless wanted to express what I think/feel here as a starting point).* What TDF has refrained from doing is precisely let the impression that if someone wants something, some developer will autmatically do it. Strange kind of thinking... I can't believe that TDF is gouverned by the fear of promising unrealistic dreams :-) My concern in contrast is that the project thus neglects a whole bunch of good will, possibliy good ideas, and potentially clever opinions. And in addition, maybe, also fruitful dialogs. We believe users can become contributors, and as such we try really hard to ensure anyone can join the project and its activities (but of course this can be improved!). However, advices for free is not something TDF and the project in general is interested in. Did you have a different process in mind? What would this user committee do specifically? Good question. A couple of answers... Appreciate the (needs of the) users... Listen to them... Give them a formal voice... Show officially that every single LibreOffice user is a valued contributor and per se member of the community (however not a formal member, sure, as formal members have kind of an access threshold which I do not question). It's probably indeed a question of appreciation. And of valuing a large group of small contributors. Something like that. However, I still don't know if it's a good idea. That's the reason I put it here for discussion: from my gut feeling it would sound good to have one (or a few) User Interest Representatives in one of the commitees/boards/whatever. Their duty could be to give their opinion to questions from the UX or ESC or QA (like should this button be renamed or not? or what default value should this option have? or something like that) or even pass them to the public and to wisely value the responses they get. And people like e.g. Brian Barker from the users list seem to be extremely sensitive to real needs of simple users, so why not ask for their input? BTW, asking for an opinion in my eyes even reduces the impression of implementing something automatically just if somebody says something - au contraire. It rather signalizes high sensitivity and responsibility by the questioner :-) So that's my idea - but it's just an idea, please take it as it is. It's just the idea of lifting the quality of the project yet a bit if simple users are given a formal advocate. It might be worth an experiment. Regards, Nino -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Macro Difficulties
Am 07.03.2013 17:43, schrieb Charles Jenkins: This is a story about the usability of LO BASIC and the documentation thereof. Please keep in mind, that LibreOffice has evolved from OpenOffice.org (now Apache Open Office), which in turn is derived from StarOffice. So you in addition might want to google for ooobasic or even starbasic, if LO basic does not give the desired results. Can anyone give me clues to creating a macro which can open a spreadsheet? http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=134164 or even better, http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=365860 HTH, Nino -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: test session for LibreOffice 3.5.0
Am 19.01.2012 10:32, schrieb Cor Nouws: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/01/17/tdf-announces-the-second-bug-hunting-session-to-put-first-release-candidate-of-libreoffice-3-5-on-the-test-bench/ Cor, couldn't you make the links in the blog article clickable? Nino -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] connecting external services to our domain
David, sorry if I joined discussion only late, maybe my questions have been answered already, so bear with me please. On Thursday 20 January 2011 15:02, David Nelson wrote: All the active members of the docs team have accounts on the Alfresco site I'm hosting right now. 1) Is there any integration (planned?) with odfauthors or is it just about a new and different place to produce documentation (specific for libreoffice maybe)? 2) what about the l10n people? Are they involved already or is it planned to involve them? Or is it just about to create international (i.e. English) documents (optionally serving as master for translation)? Nino -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Spam? (was: Website Review)
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Wiki heading styles need numbering
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 23:43, Michael Wheatland wrote: Christoph's concern about linking is a concern. Does anyone know if heading numbers can be introduced into MediaWiki as a display only feature without impacting the links? Links are independant of the heading autonumbering of course (as you can switch numbering on/off in your user settings) Nino -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Wiki heading styles need numbering
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 21:52, Christoph Noack wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 17.11.2010, 13:16 +0100 schrieb Nino Novak: On Wednesday 17 November 2010 12:58, David Nelson wrote: I'd like to suggest that the wiki should be reconfigured so that headings show numbering. It would make content on pages much easier to refer to (I know there's numbering in the Table of Contents block but, IMHO, it's not enough). In localsettings.php, you can change numberheadings to 1 and be done with it. No code changes.[1] David, you refer to references to the page. I think one of the advantages of a wiki page is, that the content might change quickly/easily ... and so does (might) the numbering. It is more a living document. I think this is the reason for omitting the heading numbers (in the default setting). For quicker referencing a current topic it's fine to have autonumbering ON. Sometimes on longer pages there are several headings sounding very similar so referencing them by number clarifies unambigously which section is referred to. That might be wrong tomorrow, but nevertheless cleares things today ;-) N. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Wiki heading styles need numbering
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 12:58, David Nelson wrote: I'd like to suggest that the wiki should be reconfigured so that headings show numbering. It would make content on pages much easier to refer to (I know there's numbering in the Table of Contents block but, IMHO, it's not enough). In localsettings.php, you can change numberheadings to 1 and be done with it. No code changes.[1] $wgDefaultUserOptions['numberheadings'] = 1; If desired, there is also an Extension [2] which allows tweaking heading numbering on individual pages. Nino [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Auto-number_headings [2] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MagicNumberedHeadings -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] again: link to netiquette or libo page for listmail footer Posting guidelines
On Tuesday 09 November 2010 00:02, Sveinn í Felli wrote: Þann mán 8.nóv 2010 19:57, skrifaði Friedrich Strohmaier: Does anyone know a good link to mailinglist netiquette or is there already setup a project related wiki page which can be linked to instead of appending learn2quote? Incredibly many rewrites are based on this one: RFC 1855: http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html#3 Obviously too long to read ,-) Why don't we think of 10 short Zen like rules? Remember how discussion started about contribution rules for OOoWiki[1]. We only should adapt them a bit and add the most important Quoting and Not-Top-posting rules, that's it. The shorter the better. People are constructive. They don't like (too heavy) rules. My 2¢ Nino [1]http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Wiki_Contribution_Guidelinesoldid=159480 -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [PM] Formel-Konverter (war: Re: [tdf-discuss] [WEBSITE] Improvements for the wiki?)
sorry, this mail should have been sent as PM but I hit the wrong button. On Tuesday 05 October 2010 21:25, Nino Novak wrote: Hallo Regina, ... -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/