Re: [IxDA Discuss] patterns for simplifyingpreferences/options/configuration
Try the Volkswagen UK site. Alinta Thornton User Experience Lead independent digital media web publishing | marketing+technology services | publisher solutions Westside, Level 2 Suite C, 83 O'Riordan Street, Alexandria NSW 2015 Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bekee Sent: Thursday, 5 June 2008 12:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] patterns for simplifyingpreferences/options/configuration not sure if this is along your lines, but i'm looking for examples of product configurators. i have sampled nike, converse (chuck taylor), mini cooper, blue nile, and timberland and would love to see more. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=29367 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Ability to Adjust Font Sizes on Web Pages
Dan Saffer wrote: On Jun 4, 2008, at 5:59 AM, G.Jason Head wrote: In this day and age, I would that most people who need to increase their font sizes in their web browser already know how to do it. Even more, they probably have increased their font size long before they got to your web site anyway. Unlikely. The people who most need to increase font size are people 65+, which is the group least-likely to be skilled enough to have adjusted settings (which is already a minority of people). Dan Agree. But there is always the exception to the rule. This is depend on the base font size of the site, For example if you launch a site with font size equivalent of 12px then for some insane reason drop this down to 9px, you can expect the audience over 40 are going to need to find out really quickly how to increase the font size. This maybe the first time they have encountered the problem. With IE 7 they may just assume the zoom is what they are going have to use, but don't bet on it. Best thing is a err on the conservative side of font sizing so the core users don't have to know to change it. Or better show them how. Little education does help, some people (low number I agree) do read them. -- Gary Barber Freelance User Interaction Designer/ Information Architect Web: radharc.com.au blog: manwithnoblog.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sites with good examples of bad UIs?
Chauncey said: ...one thing that I've noticed from several discussion groups on design and usability when someone mentions something as as good or great user interface, there is an almost immediate list of people who argue that it is not good (or great). It seems that we have a harder time listing sites or user interface for apps where say 90% of us would agree that this is a excellent user interface, possibly because there are different dimensions for our personal ratings (this relates to a current thread on usability and predictability and dimensions of usability. Two observations: 1. Mocking poor design is much more fun - and reinforces our large, but weak, egos. 2. Good UI design is, by definition, transparent. If it doesn't bother actually you, then it works. It's an over-simplification, but many of the gee whiz interfaces sometimes grate, once the novelty wears off. John - Original Message - From: Chauncey Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Al Selvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sites with good examples of bad UIs? There is the site www.webpagesthatsuck.com There is a book (and maybe a second edition) by that name. Before the book the site had some very good discussions about bad design. It seemed to fall into a slump for awhile though I haven't looked at the site for a few years now. On an opposite note, one thing that I've noticed from several discussion groups on design and usability when someone mentions something as as good or great user interface, there is an almost immediate list of people who argue that it is not good (or great). It seems that we have a harder time listing sites or user interface for apps where say 90% of us would agree that this is a excellent user interface, possibly because there are different dimensions for our personal ratings (this relates to a current thread on usability and predictability and dimensions of usability. Chauncey On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Al Selvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hesitate to ask this, because I have lost hours wandering around in such sites, but anyway: I'd appreciate recommendations for sites that analyze/discuss/make fun of bad UI designs. Examples are www.buigallery.com*, http://www.baddesigns.com, etc. I know I have seen others but I'm not remembering/finding them at the moment. Thanks, Al * I love the snarky comments on this site. Spent way too long clicking and laughing yesterday. For some reason this onehttp://www.buigallery.com/2007/11/learn-your-b-3s.htmlreally got me. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability = Predictability
Belated comment on this thread: Consistency : Predicatbility : Usability might be expressed as more of a Venn diagram? Or perhaps more nuanced, with Expectations and Anticipation somewhere in the mix. I've always felt that the most successfully generous UI's are the ones that provide a sense of what's down the road: * A set of search results that provide some context for the list * A stepped process that tells you how many pages, questions or minutes are required * A sense - not just of opportunities - but of scope Always a balancing act, of course. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability = Predictability
Some good points here, and I wanted to get back to the original concept which was Predictability=Usability blatantly ignores some key tenants from what we should all remember from our HCI and Cog Sci classes - considerations for usability foremost in my mind is cognitive workload of our user. How a good designer's design take into account working memory and design from the perspective that it is a limited resource; it is transient and is limited to capacity and time. It is affected by fatigue, context, motivation, anxiety, pre-formulated mental models, age, the time of day (and the day of the week), technological aptitude, disabilities, tacit domain knowledge, information structure, sensory interference from Dave M's Tweets, tasks, framing, priming, good beer, the Celtics tonight and many other factors that are in the literature. I think the problem is complex but not surmountable - but reductio ad absurdium pronouncements make me wince and contemplate forms of escapism because we should address all those variables when designing and not think that a simple formula like making a system predictable will ipso facto make it usable (simple, enjoyable). - W On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:09 AM, John Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belated comment on this thread: Consistency : Predicatbility : Usability might be expressed as more of a Venn diagram? Or perhaps more nuanced, with Expectations and Anticipation somewhere in the mix. I've always felt that the most successfully generous UI's are the ones that provide a sense of what's down the road: * A set of search results that provide some context for the list * A stepped process that tells you how many pages, questions or minutes are required * A sense - not just of opportunities - but of scope Always a balancing act, of course. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Ability to Adjust Font Sizes on Web Pages
Design for your audience. In the vast majority of cases, the text resize widget is a distraction that clutters up a page. Nobody uses it, and people who do need to resize type will do so via the browser; it's not hard to do so. For the widget to be visible, it would have to be prominently positioned above the fold, eating up valuable real estate that could be used for content that's more compelling to visitors. It's not 1995, and unless your site is visited by people who would need to resize type, it won't be necessary if the site is well designed. Larger type is not necessarily more readable type - it's why it's used for headlines. Like long lines of text - with long form copy, it's generally tiring, reduces comprehension, etc. And this is a pet peeve of mine, coming from working for years in advertising - it's not a good idea to pigeonhole a large population segment. The AARP is well aware that they've got a large and very diverse group of members and potential members. And it's unfair to assume that most older people are resistant to technology and online communications. Not all 50+ readers need or want to resize text; in fact, few of them do. And it's not 1995; not all 50+ people are such newbies that they don't know, or wouldn't want to know, how to resize text in a browser. Marilyn On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Don Habas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I used to see more sites that would allow a user to click icons on a web page to adjust font size through the stylesheet. Now I'm not seeing that as much...even AARP got rid of it and their audience is generally older, and they would prefer larger font. Is it best to just let a user adjust the size within their browser if needed? Thanks. Don Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] ISO: Something do to in New York, June 5
Hi Kim, There's a Buckminster Fuller show coming to the Whitney, but I don't it has opened yet. If you're in midtown, go to MOMA - the Eliasson show sounds wonderful (though not particularly IxDish). - Jim Quoting Kim Bieler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why is everyone intent on sending me to Brooklyn? Is Manhattan no longer cool enough? On Jun 4, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Rich Rogan wrote: For something a little out there, more ultra modern/ (post modern, who knows), Japanese art, which incorporates old/new, commerce and art, structure, experience, painting, video, sculpture and general wierdness - it would be hard to beat the Murakami exhibit at the Brooklyn Museum, see: http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/ I saw it on Sat, and it was great, very different then a regular art exhibit... Rich -- Joseph Rich Rogan President UX/UI Inc. http://www.jrrogan.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Kim Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability = Predictability
Using Todd's definition of predictability above: Predictability means you before you perform an action, you can assert with a good degree of accuracy what will happen next. I'm wondering how the following scenario stands against the notion that usability = predictability. Consider the scenario where a user cannot determine what action to take to initiate a task/process. Is the user really predicting anything at this point? Would you argue that the user has made a prediction as to the fact that they need to perform some action to initiate the process? And that since they cannot validate their prediction by identifying the action to take within the interface the argument predictability = usability holds? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=29451 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Changing from Web apps to Enterprise software apps
I have just started a project where I will be doing the UX for enterprise applications and wondering if any of you have any best practices to share on documentation of the current systems and books... Catríona __ Catríona Lohan-Conway User Experience Architect 917 405 5127 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Can-Am Spyder
not to re-ignite this thread, but check out CNN Video today: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2008/06/05/washburn. 230.mpg.car.kfmb On Jun 2, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote: For reference, please see: http://www.portfolio.com/interactive-features/2008/02/Spyder http://spyderryder.brp.com/spyder-community/en-CA/Home.html http://spyderryder.brp.com/spyder-community/en-CA/BlogEntry.html?EntryID=bd44fe89-6630-4ba1-a75f-643f9bb3bfea http://spyderryder.brp.com/spyder-community/en-CA/BlogEntry.html?EntryID=23e0bed7-40c5-462d-860e-745cb8e10626 So, food for thought... How does someone who practices IxD achieve a similar level of quality and innovation in software or interface design if: - - Jeffrey D. Gimzek | Senior User Experience Designer http://www.glassdoor.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Changing from Web apps to Enterprise software apps
My biggest advice to you is ... Be ready to kill trees. You cannot be TOO specific in your documentation and general design documentation when working on the enterprise. Triple your time for design phase b/c you will get hit with lots of unexpecteds. -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=29874 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Changing from Web apps to Enterprise software apps
If you're enterprise application uses a browser based platform, you've generally got the two big deliverables, (of course you could have these regardless of the platform): 1. Prototype 2. Annotated Diagrams To support the above, generally I like to audit the system before jumping into design. Various applications can dictate which audit to perform such as: 1. Screenshot audit of existing system, inventoried and linked to reqs/UC's/etc 2. Form and display list audit, (per screen/zone), listing values, valid inputs, required/not required, sorts, messaging, etc. 3. Screen flow audit, simple flow of forms thru UC's There's lots of ways to approach audits, depending on how the system functions. It's amazing how many times you can refer back to these audits in design, not to mention you'll fully understand the requirements process, and application by the time you're done. On 6/5/08, Catriona Lohan-Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just started a project where I will be doing the UX for enterprise applications and wondering if any of you have any best practices to share on documentation of the current systems and books... Catríona __ Catríona Lohan-Conway User Experience Architect 917 405 5127 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Joseph Rich Rogan President UX/UI Inc. http://www.jrrogan.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Profile vs. Persona
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Andrew Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Szymon Blaszczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Personas are based on research and synthesized from data - not creative fiction Szymon, you have never used personas in conceptual/exploratory design? That is, used them to explore your best guesses as a research tool? And you can also use personas as knowledge management (all that we already know about our customers). It's ok to play, explore, but when personas are used to make _decisions_ - it's just not wise when it's all guesses and fiction. And that's the most common mistake. We have personas, they're great, and we use them. We make crucial decisions based on our precious personas. But there's a problem. Those personas are about what we _guess_ is true and real. It's missing the point. The only advantage we get is focusing our thinking on users - nothing more. What about segmentation - is it right? What about facts and all those tricky details? Personas based on solid research are more powerful, insightful and secure tools. When it comes to tough decisions, I can't imagine using personas that are just creative writing. I like to think about personas as of form communication. When we know and understand the users (lots of facts, lots of research material), we need a tool to make use of this knowledge. We need a fast and efficient tool. Personas. -- Szymon Błaszczyk +48 609 649 819 http://2ia.pl | http://blaszczyk.name | http://przypadki.pl Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] sharing behaviors
I am relatively new to this discussion list and appreciate thoughts, references etc about ways users might create and share web pages using 2.0 apps. Check out www.twine.com . This is the newer generation of social bookmarking. You can register for the BETA and also watch the Twine tour . -- Smitha Ram Senior Interaction Designer Thomson Reuters | www.thomsonreuters.com -- Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Ability to Adjust Font Sizes on Web Pages
Design for your audience. In the vast majority of cases, the text resize widget is a distraction that clutters up a page. Nobody uses it, and people who do need to resize type will do so via the browser; it's not hard to do so. For the widget to be visible, it would have to be prominently positioned above the fold, eating up valuable real estate that could be used for content that's more compelling to visitors. It's not 1995, and unless your site is visited by people who would need to resize type, it won't be necessary if the site is well designed. Larger type is not necessarily more readable type - it's why it's used for headlines. Like long lines of text - with long form copy, it's generally tiring, reduces comprehension, etc. And this is a pet peeve of mine, coming from working for years in advertising - it's not a good idea to pigeonhole a large population segment. The AARP is well aware that they've got a large and very diverse group of members and potential members. And it's unfair to assume that most older people are resistant to technology and online communications. Not all 50+ readers need or want to resize text; in fact, few of them do. And it's not 1995; not all 50+ people are such newbies that they don't know, or wouldn't want to know, how to resize text in a browser. Marilyn Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Forms: One vs Two Email fields
I have been trying to track down research discussing the use of two vs one field for entering an email address on an online form. I plan to use inline validation for the field and am trying to keep the number of fields to a minimum. The purpose of the form is to donate money to a public broadcast station. The email address is used to send an email confirmation of the transaction (the user gets an immediate confirmation with a printer-friendly version once they complete the process) and is also used to send the new member a monthly newsletter. The transaction is dependent on having a valid credit card and/or an accurate postal mailing address for gifts and billing - in other words, the email address is not an essential component for the transaction to go through but it is clearly important for the user to receive an email confirmation and member newsletter. Can anyone direct me to research discussing the advantages and disadvantages of using one vs two email fields? I am also looking for inline validation code that addresses the one vs two field issue as well. Surfing around I have seen the field represented both ways on forms. The representation is not as consistent as the password field which seems to typically include two fields since the user does not have visual cues. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms: One vs Two Email fields
I have been trying to track down research discussing the use of two vs one field for entering an email address on an online form. I could be wrong about this, but I think the duplicate email field method is something developers started using to cut down on invalid registrations as a result of typos. It seems the theory is that by using two fields, the user has to enter it twice and validation code can be used to make sure they match, thereby decreasing the chances the entered address is incorrect. I'm not sure this would stop spam-bots, so I'm not sure that's a reason behind it, but again, I could be wrong. An alternate solution is to send the new user a confirmation email and have him/her click the link in the email to confirm it was received and the address is valid. But this is far from perfect. You'd probably have just as much success by asking new registrants to confirm the sign up information while offering the ability to edit it before saving it to the database. I've never tried this personally, but it's an idea. Any method will have its flaws. I'm so reassuring! -r- Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Perception of light / relative brightness
Tommy Keswick wrote: the answer is hugely different if you are talking about side by side light patches where the eye is superb and can detect 1% differences easily under photopic conditions) VERSUS judging brightness absolutely. I should add that Miller's paper had to do with judging differences absolutely based on memory. Most of his stimuli were non-visual and could only be compared sequentially. // jeff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=29844 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] EVENT: IXDA Pittsburgh June Meeting: An evening at Fit Associates
When: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 Refreshments and Networking: 6:30-7:00 PM Presentation and Discussion: 7:00 - 8:30 PM Post-event Mingle: 8:30 PM onwards Topic: Making a Difference As interaction designers, we all want to see our work go to market, be loved by its users, and make a positive difference in their lives. And that is Fit's intention: to lead, nurture, connect and equip its clients so that what they make fits the complexities of life and positively affects the common good. Fit partners Marc Rettig and Jenna Date will describe their approach to integrating design practices, ethnographic research, and the practical necessities of organizational change. Through project stories, they'll share practical techniques and points of view on process, collaboration, and making a difference. Where: Fit Associates, 5744 Ellsworth Avenue in Shadyside Fit Associates' studio is across the street from the Shadyside Saloon and above SPIN bar. The entry door is on street level to the left of SPIN bar. Look for the cranberry Fit Associates sign in the door. Ring the bottom buzzer to be let in. Those that are driving can find parking at metered spots on the street. Parking meters are not enforced past 6:00 pm. link to Google Maps http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=engeocode=q=5744+Ellsworth+Ave,+Pittsburgh,+Pennsylvania+15232sll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=33.847644,88.417969ie=UTF8ll=40.456875,-79.931459spn=0.007935,0.021586z=16iwloc=addr Company site: www.fitassociates.com RSVP: Please let us know you're coming: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pXQ-v5NgcfQnvYmkxLZzReQemail=true Thanks, Michele Marut IXDA Local Ambassador for Pittsburgh Questions? Direct inquiries about this event to Dana Pruszynski at Fit Associates, [EMAIL PROTECTED] We look forward to meeting and sharing ideas with you soon! Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms: One vs Two Email fields
It seems the theory is that by using two fields, the user has to enter it twice and validation code can be used to make sure they match, thereby decreasing the chances the entered address is incorrect. Any self-respecting individual would copy and paste what's in one field into the other to avoid re-typing, thereby rendering such validation useless. As you may have noticed, OS-generated password fields do not allow copypaste in a desktop environment, forcing the user to actually type again, thus validating the previous entry. Not all web browser work that way, unfortunately, but that may be an observation requiring another century to reach some of the developers out there. -- Kontra http://counternotions.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms: One vs Two Email fields
we have shied away from using both since power users probably copy and paste from the first field (i know i do). my theory is that if someone wants to ensure they receive important information they'd be darn sure to enter the important information correctly. that said, i've used [EMAIL PROTECTED] plenty of times... :) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=29881 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms: One vs Two Email fields
So, is there any research to prove this theory that using two fields actually reduces error? How many users copy and paste that first address into the second field? How does it compare to using one field that includes inline validation? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=29881 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Forms: One vs Two Email fields
On Jun 5, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Wendy Goodfriend wrote: How many users copy and paste that first address into the second field? Not to mention the autofill feature. I rarely have to type in my email address, regardless of the number of fields. Jack Jack L. Moffett Interaction Designer inmedius 412.459.0310 x219 http://www.inmedius.com Questions about whether design is necessary or affordable are quite beside the point: design is inevitable. The alternative to good design is bad design, not no design at all. - Douglas Martin Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Perception of light / relative brightness
We adapt to brightness and are sensitive to contrast. Adaption is a complicated subject, not perfectly understood. See if you can recast the question in terms of contrast sensitivity. Brian Wandell's textbook Foundations of Vision is a good starting point and you can follow up with its bibliography. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=29844 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help