Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who am I?
On 19 May 2009, at 04:03, Jared Spool wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 10:15 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Robert Hoekman Jr wrote: Someone who is unlikely to be great at either, even if he was previously great at one or the other. This is exactly the kind of thinking that will sink the current generation of designers, be they IxD, IA or UX. Gotta say, I'm siding with Andrei on this one. I've found no evidence to suggest that someone talented couldn't be great at both, if they put the effort into it. [snip] I'll third that opinion. Nobody can be an expert at everything. That includes being an expert at all of development or all of interaction design too. Their both broad fields that cover a lot of ground. You can certainly be really good a enough of a subset of both to be very, very useful. I'm seeing more folk who are good at both appearing all of the time - coming from both sides of what people still seem to think is a divide. (There's also a lot more overlap between good developers and good designers than many designers/developers think. I wish somebody would do a mashup of Indi Young's Mental Models and Eric Evan's Domain Driven Design for example :) As for useful places for Joshua to look - one place might be agile teams. Many are crying out for good UX folk who are willing to talk development (or vice versa). Like David said. Don't focus on the job title. There isn't one. Focus on the role and the skill set - and what you can bring to it. Look for T-shape people positions with fat bottoms to those T's. Then be prepared to push. Cheers, Adrian -- delicious.com/adrianh - twitter.com/adrianh - adri...@quietstars.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] [Conan Team to IXDA members]: Paying job posts to fund IXDA activitiesother issues
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Maria De Monte mtdemo...@yahoo.it wrote: Hello IxDA members, IxDA is considering undertaking a partnership with Coroflot (http://www.coroflot.com/) to handle the job-related posts that now come through our discussion list. We need your input on this question! 1) Would you pay a fee to post a job at IxDA.org using Coroflot’s service, knowing that half of the fee you’ll be paying would go to fund IxDA activities? Alas, no - I'd support IxDA in general, but it's been articulated already why this wouldn't fly in general. I'd think the membership would want as open a channel as possible to opportunities. 2) How would you want to deal with other job-related opportunities such as internships, PhD, part-time positions and so on? As above. 3) How valuable would the portfolio service be to you? Hard to answer- I like Coroflot's portfolios already? 4) Should a Coroflot-hosted Job Board at IxDA.org display available jobs in categories OUTSIDE of Interaction Design? The other specialities they presently handle include fields such as Architecture; Art Direction; Design Management; Industrial Design; and Motion Graphics. I'm thinking only as they overlap with IxD, cf. the infinite debates over job titles and roles. I consider it a user experience issue if a hiring/HR manager bounces off the low initial hurdle of not being able to find Information Architect, UX Designer, Wireframe Commando or whatever name their company has in mind when it would fit someone in the organization. Thank you for asking! Scott Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Job-Experience Design Manager-Menlo Park, CA--Intuit--Full Time
Hello there members. If you know of any strong leaders in the SW/Internet space please send them my way. Thanks in advance Chris As Intuit looks to innovate and expand the way we serve our customers, online delivery of our products and services will play a major part in Intuit's growth. In the world of online service and delivery, access to data and information becomes the most important element to ensuring the success of our customers. This shift from a more traditional software delivery model means that Intuit is expanding our team and attracting the best talent in 3 top areas of growth for our company: Social/Web 2.0, Global, and Mobil. If you are interested in this position, please either email your resume to Chris Coxhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/crizzcoxx chris_cox at intuit.com mailto:chris_...@intuit.com w/ the job title and req. number in the subject line, and submit your resume online to ensure you are considered for future opportunities as well: http://www.intuit.apply2jobs.com/ Experience Design Manager Location: Menlo Park, CA Req. 67808 Responsibilities: The hands-on Experience Design Manager is responsible for inspiring individuals and teams across the Quicken HealthCare Group (QHG). This individual will work with Product Development, Product Management, Marketing and others to provide the leadership and direction necessary to deliver great end-to-end user experiences that establish QHG as an inspiring, respected, savvy, effective industry leader. This individual will also work with external partners to create the best end-to-end user experiences that delight our customers. This leader will have a proven track record in setting a vision for great customer experiences, inspiring others to get behind the vision, and ultimately delivering products and services that are known for their delightful experience and ease of use. The individual will have 10+ years of demonstrated results as a practitioner of design and research. He/she will bring deep knowledge of innovation, customer research, ideation, storytelling, prototyping, design frameworks, concept visualization, etc and will inspire the 5-person Experience Design team to produce great outcomes. In addition, this person will have a demonstrated ability to collaborate effectively with a variety of business leaders, technology leaders, Product Managers and other key people to develop large growth businesses Requirements: * Strong leadership and change management skills, being able to galvanize energy and great people around delighting customers through great user experiences, and insure successful implementation through influence and hands-on leadership * Strong understanding of software products and services environments for healthcare businesses and consumer customers, while also having a strong business sense and appreciation * Experience attracting, developing, and exciting Experience Design talent * Great communication skills, being able to paint an exciting vision for experience design and drive it into practical reality * Regularly doing hands-on design and research work. ~30% of this person's time will be hands-on design/research * 10+ years of significant track record in defining and delivering great user experiences in software products and services to a large number of customers * Demonstrated ability to paint a vision for experience design and deliver on it * Master's in interaction design, the social sciences, or related fields * Excellent command of: user experience methods, design principles, problem-framing skills, verbal and written communication skills * Exemplary ability to build positive, collaborative relationships across teams/groups/functions through facilitative leadership, and to raise the bar continually as an effective leader of positive change * Strong track-record of developing and hiring great people * Experience, comfort and track-record in dealing at all levels in a large organization, and in leading both through influence and hands-on ownership Company Information: Intuit Inc. (Nasdaq: INTU) http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/edgar_conv_html%2f2007%2f09%2f14%2f950134-07-020001.html#FIS_BUSINESS , is a leading provider of business and financial management solutions for small and mid-sized businesses; financial institutions, including banks and credit unions; consumers and accounting professionals. Our flagship products and services, including QuickBooks http://quickbooks.intuit.com/ , Quicken http://quicken.intuit.com/ and TurboTax http://turbotax.intuit.com/ software, simplify small business management and payroll processing, personal finance, and tax preparation and filing. ProSeries http://proseries.intuit.com/ and Lacerte http://www.lacertesoftware.com/ are Intuit's leading tax preparation
Re: [IxDA Discuss] [Conan Team to IXDA members]: Paying job posts to fund IXDA activitiesother issues
At this point, we need to do whatever we can to increase the number of practicing Interaction Designers. Providing free contact between employers and seekers helps this effort. Job posters, if they have that kind of budget, will likely be posting to sites like Coroflot anyway. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42072 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who am I?
So, I'd say, don't look for a position as a dual designer/coder. Look for a position as a designer or as a programer but just *BE* the designer/programmer that you are! As someone in similar shoes to yourself I completely agree with Dave here. Although advertised positions requiring both are rare that's not always the case once you're inside. I often go into contracts as either a IX/UX designer OR a UI developer and, because of my background, find myself getting involved in the other. I usually take these roles because I see an opportunity to get involved in both when doing a bit of background research on the company. These days I tend to sell myself as a IX/UX designer (major) with a solid UI dev (minor) skill set as thats how I want the balance to be. And yes, it is possible to be great at both. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42068 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who am I?
Being a UX Designer with frontend dev skills is indeed very useful for certain aspects of design work: * you can try out things in your target frontend technology (check out feasibility and possibilities, play with it, stretch it to its limits), and if you have the appropriate authority you can choose the best one for what you are trying to achieve. * you can build prototypes that really have high fidelity because they are done in the same environment like the final product will be. * you are able to keep control of your design even during implementation or agile-iterative building phases, because you not only understand what the devs are doing, but you are able to contribute the essential parts yourself (like templates). There are less communication issues. Just as graphic designers who know how to code can do amazing things with code (keyword generative design), UX Designers who are very much closer to the technical side of things should imho strive to at least be able to do rudimentary things. In small teams, the overall frontend guy who does everything related to UX is not so uncommon, and this is not going to change. The same is true for developers - you do not always have specialists for frontend, backend, database, security etc. milan -- ||| | | || | || | || milan guenther * interaction design p +49 173 2856689 * www.guenther.cx Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who am I?
On 19 May 2009, at 01:26, Craig Melbourne wrote: [snip] As someone in similar shoes to yourself I completely agree with Dave here. Although advertised positions requiring both are rare that's not always the case once you're inside. I often go into contracts as either a IX/UX designer OR a UI developer and, because of my background, find myself getting involved in the other. I usually take these roles because I see an opportunity to get involved in both when doing a bit of background research on the company. These days I tend to sell myself as a IX/UX designer (major) with a solid UI dev (minor) skill set as thats how I want the balance to be. [snip] That's been my experience too (although I tend to sell my developer skills first myself). Adrian -- delicious.com/adrianh - twitter.com/adrianh - adri...@quietstars.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who am I?
I'm finding this discussion very interesting as a developer looking to move more in a UI design direction. I posted to IxDA a month or two ago asking how easy people thought it was to transition between roles. Many (tho' not all) of the answers were positive, and mentioned as others have here, that smaller, agile teams / start-ups were probably the best environment to do a range of things. Of course, it doesn't make finding those kind of jobs any easier :). I've been quite lucky in that I've started taking on more usability / UI design work in my current job which my boss has supported. PS, I summarised the findings from that IxDA discussion and some other sources here if anyone's interested: http://tr.im/lKZa. Cheers, David 2009/5/19 Adrian Howard adri...@quietstars.com: On 19 May 2009, at 01:26, Craig Melbourne wrote: [snip] As someone in similar shoes to yourself I completely agree with Dave here. Although advertised positions requiring both are rare that's not always the case once you're inside. I often go into contracts as either a IX/UX designer OR a UI developer and, because of my background, find myself getting involved in the other. I usually take these roles because I see an opportunity to get involved in both when doing a bit of background research on the company. These days I tend to sell myself as a IX/UX designer (major) with a solid UI dev (minor) skill set as thats how I want the balance to be. [snip] That's been my experience too (although I tend to sell my developer skills first myself). Adrian -- delicious.com/adrianh - twitter.com/adrianh - adri...@quietstars.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- David Little w: www.littled.net t: twitter.com/djlittle Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Examples: 'Out of stock' messages on e-commerce sites
Hey guys and gals, Has anyone seen any good examples of out of stock messages on e-commerce sites? What I am looking for are examples which show a company to have: 1) The right tone i.e. honest, apologetic, encouraging etc 2) The right time to deliver the message in the userflow i.e. is it best represented on the product page, as opposed to at the basket. Thanks in advance, Julian McCrea User Experience Architect GT The Griffin Building 83 Clerkenwell Road, London EC1R 5AR switchboard: +44 (0)20 7343 3700 mobile: +44 (0)7965 458 585 fax: +44 (0)20 7343 3701 We're recruiting! Visit: http://www.wearegt.com blocked::http://www.goodtechnology.com/ thinking human font face=arial size=-1The information contained within this email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution or other use of, or reliance upon, this information is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete it from your system. Thank you. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of the WPP Group shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. GT and its employees conduct business in accordance with the WPP Code of Business Conduct and Corporate Responsibility Policy; these can be found on www.wpp.com. This email originated from GT London Ltd, company registration number 2974377 (registered in the UK). Registered Office: The Griffin Building, 83 Clerkenwell Road, London, EC1R 5AR. VAT No: GB 649885074 GT is a member of IPA and IAB./font Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples: 'Out of stock' messages on e-commerce sites
Julian, The point I would make is that customers don't really care whether the item is in stock or not. They're interested in how quickly they can receive the product. So focus your messages around that part of the experience. Tell them if a product has been discontinued and you can no longer supply it. Tell them if a product has been superseded and let them know what the replacement product will be. Otherwise, tell them how quickly you can deliver it, from today, if they order it now. Don't bother them with why it takes that long, unless they show an interest in the details (so make sure the details are handy). And if there are different delivery options that will get the product to them sooner (or take longer) - let them know that as well. Amazon does a good job of communicating this information to customers. They're not alone, though. Hope that helps. Steve 2009/5/19 Julian Mccrea julian.mcc...@wearegt.com Hey guys and gals, Has anyone seen any good examples of out of stock messages on e-commerce sites? What I am looking for are examples which show a company to have: 1) The right tone i.e. honest, apologetic, encouraging etc 2) The right time to deliver the message in the userflow i.e. is it best represented on the product page, as opposed to at the basket. Thanks in advance, Julian McCrea User Experience Architect GT The Griffin Building 83 Clerkenwell Road, London EC1R 5AR switchboard: +44 (0)20 7343 3700 mobile: +44 (0)7965 458 585 fax: +44 (0)20 7343 3701 We're recruiting! Visit: http://www.wearegt.com blocked::http://www.goodtechnology.com/ thinking human font face=arial size=-1The information contained within this email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution or other use of, or reliance upon, this information is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete it from your system. Thank you. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of the WPP Group shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. GT and its employees conduct business in accordance with the WPP Code of Business Conduct and Corporate Responsibility Policy; these can be found on www.wpp.com. This email originated from GT London Ltd, company registration number 2974377 (registered in the UK). Registered Office: The Griffin Building, 83 Clerkenwell Road, London, EC1R 5AR. VAT No: GB 649885074 GT is a member of IPA and IAB./font Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Steve 'Doc' Baty | Principal | Meld Consulting | P: +61 417 061 292 | E: steveb...@meld.com.au | Twitter: docbaty | Skype: steve_baty | LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/stevebaty Director, IxDA - ixda.org Editor: Johnny Holland - johnnyholland.org Contributor: UXMatters - www.uxmatters.com UX Australia: 26-28 August, http://uxaustralia.com.au UX Book Club: http://uxbookclub.org/ - Read, discuss, connect. Blog: http://meld.com.au/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples: 'Out of stock' messages on e-commerce sites
More important than the wording of the message, I think, is what options the site provides at the point of notification. Suggesting alternative products is good; letting users enter an e-mail address so they can be notified when the item is back in stock is even better. If that's not feasible, at least providing an estimate of how soon the item might be back in stock is also good practice. Amazon handles low stock and out of stock messages reasonably well. You'll often see Only 2 left (more coming soon) on a product detail page for a low-stock item there, and they do a good job of distinguishing between items that are out of stock but expected back, those that have been discontinued, and those of uncertain status--We don't know when or if this item will be available again. Whenever possible, IMO, out of stock notification should occur at the item level, before the user can add the item to the cart. Adding something to the cart implies that you'll be able to purchase it, and when you suddenly learn at checkout that something isn't available, it's very frustrating. An e-commerce site that I used to work for didn't display out of stock notifications until the cart page, and we received daily complaints about this. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42113 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] [Conan Team to IXDA members]: Paying job posts to fund IXDA activitiesother issues
As far as these questions go, I've posted contract jobs and full time jobs on IxDA and I would not pay $200 + to do this, (I don't make anything off these jobs). As per individual questions: 1)Would you pay a fee to post a job at IxDA.org using Coroflot’s service, knowing that half of the fee you’ll be paying would go to fund IxDA activities? - JRR - Not that high of a fee, maybe a sliding scale, starting at $50.00. I think IxDA could earn enough to operate via focussed fund raising events, (or just ask members for $$$ for specific purposes). 2) How would you want to deal with other job-related opportunities such as internships, PhD, part-time positions and so on? - JRR - These should be free/low cost if possible. 3) How valuable would the portfolio service be to you? - JRR - Having duplicate portfolios along with my business site is nice, some very simple service could do probably just as well. 4) Should a Coroflot-hosted Job Board at IxDA.org display available jobs in categories OUTSIDE of Interaction Design? The other specialities they presently handle include fields such as Architecture; Art Direction; Design Management; Industrial Design; and Motion Graphics. - JRR - This dilutes IxDA message, and is of questionable benefit, unless somehow tied to the fact that these jobs are of an IxDA nature. Rich (PS - Sorry for not helping out more, it's been a busy 2nd Quarter ;) On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Jonathan jonat...@sustain.us wrote: At this point, we need to do whatever we can to increase the number of practicing Interaction Designers. Providing free contact between employers and seekers helps this effort. Job posters, if they have that kind of budget, will likely be posting to sites like Coroflot anyway. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42072 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Joseph Rich Rogan President UX/UI Inc. http://www.jrrogan.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples: 'Out of stock' messages on e-commerce sites
Hi Julian, Fatface does well to communicate this IMO. They use: - simple icons (tick=yes cross=no/out-of-stock) and - states (active/clickable=add to cart non-active/not clickable=out-of-stock) Here's an example of a page where size '2-4' is available and other sizes not: http://www.fatface.com/Accessories/CORVO-EMBROIDERED-BELT/invt/22996 Cheers, -- Rob 2009/5/19 Julian Mccrea julian.mcc...@wearegt.com Hey guys and gals, Has anyone seen any good examples of out of stock messages on e-commerce sites? What I am looking for are examples which show a company to have: 1) The right tone i.e. honest, apologetic, encouraging etc 2) The right time to deliver the message in the userflow i.e. is it best represented on the product page, as opposed to at the basket. Thanks in advance, Julian McCrea User Experience Architect GT The Griffin Building 83 Clerkenwell Road, London EC1R 5AR switchboard: +44 (0)20 7343 3700 mobile: +44 (0)7965 458 585 fax: +44 (0)20 7343 3701 We're recruiting! Visit: http://www.wearegt.com blocked::http://www.goodtechnology.com/ thinking human font face=arial size=-1The information contained within this email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution or other use of, or reliance upon, this information is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete it from your system. Thank you. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of the WPP Group shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. GT and its employees conduct business in accordance with the WPP Code of Business Conduct and Corporate Responsibility Policy; these can be found on www.wpp.com. This email originated from GT London Ltd, company registration number 2974377 (registered in the UK). Registered Office: The Griffin Building, 83 Clerkenwell Road, London, EC1R 5AR. VAT No: GB 649885074 GT is a member of IPA and IAB./font Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- / Rob Enslin / robenslin.com / twitter.com/robenslin / +44759 052 8890 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Undergraduate Curriculum in HCI
I'll bite. I run the *MINOR* in interaction design here at Savannah College of Art Design. Bill Moggridge recently came out and said that a major as an undergrad in IxD is not valuable at this time. That the requirements of the form giving design programs should include IxD in it. And I can't agree more! To this point, if you aren't at a design school you will not be learning to design. You'll be learning how to research, how to evaluate and how to engineer, but not design. You won't learn about aesthetics and you won't learn about design thinking and other core methods and practices towards applied creative thinking. That being said, if you want to be a designer, I would not (you asked for an opinion and I'm giving it to you; and people will disagree) go into an HCI program. I would go to a design school and join a program in graphic design, interactive design or industrial design to learn design and then add the concentration of HCI IxD specific stuff to that course load through electives. If you can't go to a out of state or private schools due to cost (totally reasonable) try to get into a design program like that at Virginia Tech. if you can go private or out of state and the technical side is as important to you as the aesthetic side, then be sure to go to a school that offers both sides like CMU, UCLA, Stanford, Berkeley, the list goes on and on. OR! come down here to Savannah SCAD. I've only been here a short time, but I can say confidently you will never work harder in your life, nor be more ready for the real world. You get out of it what you put into it. Anyway, as to specific curriculum I'd put it this way: Series of studios in Interactive Media and Production (2D) Series of studios in interactive PRODUCT design (3D) Research methods (generative/contextual evaluative) General HF (erogonomics, cognitive/perception) Art History Critique Design History Critique Anthropology/Sociology Cultural Criticism Business/Economics/Management Computer Science Math Lit Composition Speaking Presentation That should do you well right there! Have fun! and Good Luck! -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42102 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] [Conan Team to IXDA members]: Paying job posts to fund IXDA activitiesother issues
One possible option is to keep ixda jobs free but give corofloat an additional opportunity to display their jobs on ixda. You can charge them a minor fee of 25 or 50 dollars per position. A lot of paid job boards like Dice and Careebuilder do that where they partner up with other job boards to display listings on other sites and have a partnership where they pay them a small amount to list the jobs. Advantage to Corofloat will be they will get an additional place to list their jobs with relevant target audience. Corofloat can also let the job posting people know about the partnership with IXDA showing an increased value. Advantage to ixda will be some funding contribution from corofloat, additional job postings and can still keep their own free postings. May be ixda to do some job related funding can sponsor a banner every month where the banner can direct people directly to company's website. Harvinder Singh 210-614-4198 O 210-884-1311 C harvin...@bestica.com www.bestica.com Bridging the UX/IT Talent Gap My Linked In Profile Follow Me on Twitter View Besticas Current Openings Visit our booth at UPA Conference in Portland in June Contribute to Usability/Design Challenges Through Our Blog *$50 coupon code BST9 for How Design Conference in Austin For Bestica Friends and Fans -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Damon Dimmick Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 9:57 PM To: Maria De Monte Cc: Forum Interaction Design Ixda Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] [Conan Team to IXDA members]: Paying job posts to fund IXDA activitiesother issues Hi Maria, I think the biggest danger in losing job postings is in edge cases. If my company posts a job, and I'm simply trying to let my fellow interaction wonks know about it, there's no chance at all I would bother considering that posting fee. I think you'd find almost unanimous agreement with that sentiment. For recruiters and companies looking for IxDers, it makes total sense, but can we work out some system by which members can forward jobs from their parent companies without having to pay a fee? After all, that's almost like a community service, expsoing our fellow IxDers job opportunities in a recession economy is one of the core benefits of having an association like this. Unless your model would also permit users to post jobs in the forums without penalty, it might result in a net loss of postings. I don't have a strong opinion on this, I'm just using my self as a generic persona example. If I found out that there was a job at my company, but my company was unwilling to pay a posting fee, what could I do with that information? If I could still post it to the forums, well, no problem, but if I would have to pay a fee, I would not bother. Just some thoughts. Sincerely, Damon Dimmick SitePen Inc. Maria De Monte wrote: Hello IxDA members, IxDA is considering undertaking a partnership with Coroflot (http://www.coroflot.com/) to handle the job-related posts that now come through our discussion list. We need your input on this question! Coroflot has hosted the Job Board at both Interaction conferences, and they're eager to work with us. Here are a few lines from Coroflot's About Us page (http://www.coroflot.com/public/aboutus.asp): Coroflot was started by designers, and is still run by designers [.] Coroflot is an open system. There are no membership requirements, application processes, or invites. [.] Coroflot is the creative world at work. To pursue this partnership, IxDA would integrate a Coroflot-hosted Job Board into our upcoming new website at IxDA.org. Additionally, there is a possibility for Coroflot to provide us with a portfolio service, so that IxDA members could have a personal portfolio at IxDA.org and reach a wider audience. To see some examples of how Coroflot provides partner-branded Job Boards, some of their partner sites are with: Business Week (http://jobs.businessweek.com/a/all-jobs/list); Design Observer (http://designobserver.coroflot.com/public/jobs_browse.asp); AIGA (http://www.aigadesignjobs.org/public/default.asp) For IxDA members, searching for jobs and having an online portfolio would be free. However, POSTING a job would involve a $265 fee paid to Coroflot that would be split 50/50 with IxDA. This income provides a potential revenue stream to fund IxDA's activities at the global and local level. However, we are concerned about having a possible conflict with IxDA's current totally-free philosophy. We don't want to lose job postings that may be coming from IxDA members who do not have a budget for posting such opportunities. Additionally, we would have to work with Coroflot to customize their service so that we can ensure that local job postings are displayed/accessible from the upcoming Local Group mini-sites. So, here are
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Undergraduate Curriculum in HCI
To echo Dave's point, and Bill's via Dave, an undergraduate degree in HCI _only_ is probably not a good idea. To clarify CMU's program. It is not a first major -- you can't just major in HCI. It is a *second* major. A student has to have a first major in something else (Design, CS, Psychology, Business, English, Art, Engineering, etc) and then apply for the second major in HCI, fulfilling all the requirements for both. This is a reflection of the fact that you have to be disciplinary in something before you can be inter-disciplinary! I absolutely agree that you should go to a school that has stand-alone programs in each of the areas you are interested in. But we believe there are three sides (not two): Design, Technical (e.g., CS) and Psychology (both cognitive to understand perception, problem-solving, learning, etc., and social, to understand the behavior of groups now that the technology is up to social networking). Best of luck. Bonnie dave malouf wrote: I'll bite. I run the *MINOR* in interaction design here at Savannah College of Art Design. Bill Moggridge recently came out and said that a major as an undergrad in IxD is not valuable at this time. That the requirements of the form giving design programs should include IxD in it. And I can't agree more! To this point, if you aren't at a design school you will not be learning to design. You'll be learning how to research, how to evaluate and how to engineer, but not design. You won't learn about aesthetics and you won't learn about design thinking and other core methods and practices towards applied creative thinking. That being said, if you want to be a designer, I would not (you asked for an opinion and I'm giving it to you; and people will disagree) go into an HCI program. I would go to a design school and join a program in graphic design, interactive design or industrial design to learn design and then add the concentration of HCI IxD specific stuff to that course load through electives. If you can't go to a out of state or private schools due to cost (totally reasonable) try to get into a design program like that at Virginia Tech. if you can go private or out of state and the technical side is as important to you as the aesthetic side, then be sure to go to a school that offers both sides like CMU, UCLA, Stanford, Berkeley, the list goes on and on. OR! come down here to Savannah SCAD. I've only been here a short time, but I can say confidently you will never work harder in your life, nor be more ready for the real world. You get out of it what you put into it. Anyway, as to specific curriculum I'd put it this way: Series of studios in Interactive Media and Production (2D) Series of studios in interactive PRODUCT design (3D) Research methods (generative/contextual evaluative) General HF (erogonomics, cognitive/perception) Art History Critique Design History Critique Anthropology/Sociology Cultural Criticism Business/Economics/Management Computer Science Math Lit Composition Speaking Presentation That should do you well right there! Have fun! and Good Luck! -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42102 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples: 'Out of stock' messages on e-commerce sites
I would suggest only presenting status information (out of stock) to the user if it's necessary to manage expectations. If the user sees the item on your site they will assume it's in. Might not hurt to mention quantity available as mentioned above. If the item is out of stock I suggest presenting that information to users at the item level unless one wants to anger potential customers. Down the same line of thought, if an item is out of stock I would still provide a number of options to complete the purchase, making sure I detail out when they should expect the merchandise. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42113 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] [Conan Team to IXDA members]: Paying job posts to fund IXDA activitiesother issues
I really like Harvinder's idea. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42072 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Mobile Literacy - Designing Mobile Technology for Emerging Markets
Adaptive Path has just released it's latest RD Project Mobile Literacy Designing Mobile Technology for Emerging Markets http://www.adaptivepath.com/mobileliteracy/ Through research done in the Kutch district in rural India, we developed insights about what works (and, largely, what doesn't) when it comes to mobile technology in a society that is significantly illiterate and innumerate. This in turn lead to a series of design principles and concepts, which we hope will engender conversation within the design and business community about what it means to deliver appropriate products and services for emerging markets. --peter Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Undergraduate Curriculum in HCI
*Thank You* so much for including Psychology in your triad! I don't feel Cognitive, Social (and Neuroscience) don't get the recognition they deserve when it comes to full HCI perspectives. On May 19, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Bonnie John wrote: To echo Dave's point, and Bill's via Dave, an undergraduate degree in HCI _only_ is probably not a good idea. To clarify CMU's program. It is not a first major -- you can't just major in HCI. It is a *second* major. A student has to have a first major in something else (Design, CS, Psychology, Business, English, Art, Engineering, etc) and then apply for the second major in HCI, fulfilling all the requirements for both. This is a reflection of the fact that you have to be disciplinary in something before you can be inter-disciplinary! I absolutely agree that you should go to a school that has stand- alone programs in each of the areas you are interested in. But we believe there are three sides (not two): Design, Technical (e.g., CS) and Psychology (both cognitive to understand perception, problem- solving, learning, etc., and social, to understand the behavior of groups now that the technology is up to social networking). Best of luck. Bonnie dave malouf wrote: I'll bite. I run the *MINOR* in interaction design here at Savannah College of Art Design. Bill Moggridge recently came out and said that a major as an undergrad in IxD is not valuable at this time. That the requirements of the form giving design programs should include IxD in it. And I can't agree more! To this point, if you aren't at a design school you will not be learning to design. You'll be learning how to research, how to evaluate and how to engineer, but not design. You won't learn about aesthetics and you won't learn about design thinking and other core methods and practices towards applied creative thinking. That being said, if you want to be a designer, I would not (you asked for an opinion and I'm giving it to you; and people will disagree) go into an HCI program. I would go to a design school and join a program in graphic design, interactive design or industrial design to learn design and then add the concentration of HCI IxD specific stuff to that course load through electives. If you can't go to a out of state or private schools due to cost (totally reasonable) try to get into a design program like that at Virginia Tech. if you can go private or out of state and the technical side is as important to you as the aesthetic side, then be sure to go to a school that offers both sides like CMU, UCLA, Stanford, Berkeley, the list goes on and on. OR! come down here to Savannah SCAD. I've only been here a short time, but I can say confidently you will never work harder in your life, nor be more ready for the real world. You get out of it what you put into it. Anyway, as to specific curriculum I'd put it this way: Series of studios in Interactive Media and Production (2D) Series of studios in interactive PRODUCT design (3D) Research methods (generative/contextual evaluative) General HF (erogonomics, cognitive/perception) Art History Critique Design History Critique Anthropology/Sociology Cultural Criticism Business/Economics/Management Computer Science Math Lit Composition Speaking Presentation That should do you well right there! Have fun! and Good Luck! -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42102 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples: 'Out of stock' messages on e-commerce sites
bodenusa.com also has a nice interface and shows available, out of stock and sold out in a size grid. example: http://www.bodenusa.com/en-US/Womens-Swimwear/Swimsuits/AK139/Womens-Boyleg-Swimsuit.html Best, Marcy From: Rob Enslin robens...@gmail.com To: Julian Mccrea julian.mcc...@wearegt.com Cc: disc...@ixda.org Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:37:17 AM Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples: 'Out of stock' messages on e-commerce sites Hi Julian, Fatface does well to communicate this IMO. They use: - simple icons (tick=yes cross=no/out-of-stock) and - states (active/clickable=add to cart non-active/not clickable=out-of-stock) Here's an example of a page where size '2-4' is available and other sizes not: http://www.fatface.com/Accessories/CORVO-EMBROIDERED-BELT/invt/22996 Cheers, -- Rob 2009/5/19 Julian Mccrea julian.mcc...@wearegt.com Hey guys and gals, Has anyone seen any good examples of out of stock messages on e-commerce sites? What I am looking for are examples which show a company to have: 1) The right tone i.e. honest, apologetic, encouraging etc 2) The right time to deliver the message in the userflow i.e. is it best represented on the product page, as opposed to at the basket. Thanks in advance, Julian McCrea User Experience Architect GT The Griffin Building 83 Clerkenwell Road, London EC1R 5AR switchboard: +44 (0)20 7343 3700 mobile: +44 (0)7965 458 585 fax: +44 (0)20 7343 3701 We're recruiting! Visit: http://www.wearegt.com blocked::http://www.goodtechnology.com/ thinking human font face=arial size=-1The information contained within this email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution or other use of, or reliance upon, this information is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete it from your system. Thank you. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of the WPP Group shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. GT and its employees conduct business in accordance with the WPP Code of Business Conduct and Corporate Responsibility Policy; these can be found on www.wpp.com. This email originated from GT London Ltd, company registration number 2974377 (registered in the UK). Registered Office: The Griffin Building, 83 Clerkenwell Road, London, EC1R 5AR. VAT No: GB 649885074 GT is a member of IPA and IAB./font Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- / Rob Enslin / robenslin.com / twitter.com/robenslin / +44759 052 8890 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples: 'Out of stock' messages on e-commerce sites
Do you think those figures are accurate to the current inventory (pretty much if something isn't discontinued it is always going to be in stock and shipped within the same amount of time from anywhere)? Have you ever bought something that was in the glass case that had that unique one of a kind or last one on the shelf appeal just to return and find the exact same thing on display or in abundance of stock? You think this brick and mortar ploy has been factored into the eCom store front? I'm sure it would be far more effective with your store behavior data driving the front end/impulse buy. 2 cents. .. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Examples: 'Out of stock' messages on e-commerce sites
+I think the out of stock notification would be useful for an admin to CMS that was stocking in store shelfs. Serves no purpose for a eCustomer other than... On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Angel Marquez angel.marq...@gmail.comwrote: Do you think those figures are accurate to the current inventory (pretty much if something isn't discontinued it is always going to be in stock and shipped within the same amount of time from anywhere)? Have you ever bought something that was in the glass case that had that unique one of a kind or last one on the shelf appeal just to return and find the exact same thing on display or in abundance of stock? You think this brick and mortar ploy has been factored into the eCom store front? I'm sure it would be far more effective with your store behavior data driving the front end/impulse buy. 2 cents. .. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Tale of buying a chair
http://www.hermanmiller.com/aeron I went to look at an Aeron chair. Then I clicked to look at the pricing: Pricing Information Whether you're looking for list pricing of a chair or the components of a complete workstation, you'll find the information you need here. For further information, contact a Herman Miller dealer or consumer store near you. Basically: 'You'll find the information here. But to find the information go there.' Lolz. If their interface design is so ridiculous, I'm sure the same goes for their product. Next. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tale of buying a chair
Save yourself a ton of hassle and money and pick one up used at a local contract interiors dealer. Or better yet, pick up something less expensive, but just as functional. I've been loving my Herman Miller Equa2 for close to 15 years now. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42129 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Design research.
Hi all, I am currently involved in a discussion on how research can be a part of design. There seems to be two different paths, Nigan Bayazit wrote: Some of the art, craft, and design people call what they do for art and design “research.”...An artist’s practicing activities when creating a work of art or a craftwork cannot be considered research., but C Frayling from RCA writes about how the actual design practice IS research. Just an issue tickling my mind these days. Any input on this? Best, Leonardo. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tale of buying a chair
The two examples I use (when I teach) to show this disconnect are Crumpler (crumpler.com.au) and Dr Martens (drmartens.com). Both fantastic products with insanely bad web presence! Scott McDaniel wrote: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090519-0, 19/05/2009), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean That's really the shame of it - the way many might experience the physical product is represented by the sub-par online experience. -- Donna Spencer - Maadmob do...@maadmob.net 02 6255 4993 / 0409778693 http://maadmob.com.au/ http://www.rosenfeldmedia.com/books/cardsorting/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tale of buying a chair
In a completely different sense, I always used to love Telstra's site - www.telstra.com - as a way of highlighting the disconnect between the brand promise Making life easier and the reality as evidenced by your interaction with the business. 2009/5/20 Donna Spencer don...@maadmob.net The two examples I use (when I teach) to show this disconnect are Crumpler (crumpler.com.au) and Dr Martens (drmartens.com). Both fantastic products with insanely bad web presence! Scott McDaniel wrote: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090519-0, 19/05/2009), Inbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean That's really the shame of it - the way many might experience the physical product is represented by the sub-par online experience. -- Donna Spencer - Maadmob do...@maadmob.net 02 6255 4993 / 0409778693 http://maadmob.com.au/ http://www.rosenfeldmedia.com/books/cardsorting/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Steve 'Doc' Baty | Principal | Meld Consulting | P: +61 417 061 292 | E: steveb...@meld.com.au | Twitter: docbaty | Skype: steve_baty | LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/stevebaty Director, IxDA - ixda.org Editor: Johnny Holland - johnnyholland.org Contributor: UXMatters - www.uxmatters.com UX Australia: 26-28 August, http://uxaustralia.com.au UX Book Club: http://uxbookclub.org/ - Read, discuss, connect. Blog: http://meld.com.au/blog Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
