Re: [IxDA Discuss] Language\Culture-based Keyboard
Thanks everyone for the quick answers. that's loads of information. I'll provide some feedback of my studies/searches/researches in the meantime. Best, Majid. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Keyur Sorathia [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Majid, You can go through key lekh, developed for Indian (devnagiri) language, which will give you a good idea about language/culture based keyboard. Here you are. http://www.idc.iitb.ac.in/~anirudha/papers/ex06-joshi.pdfhttp://www.idc.iitb.ac.in/%7Eanirudha/papers/ex06-joshi.pdf You can also contact Prof. Anirudha Joshi who was in the team of developing this keyboard. Cheers!! On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:34 PM, alok nandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Majid, Some examples of keyboards ref. Indic languages are here http://www.bhashaindia.com/Developers/IndianLang/Typingdnagari/dnpages.aspx and many more on the web in Indic Language Computing. Best, Alok NANDI design.architempo.net indiainflux.architempo.net At 16:47 10/11/2008, Michael Micheletti wrote: Hi Majid, I did some quick searching using Google Images for Arabic keyboard and Hebrew keyboard to look at examples of keyboards with non-Latin alphabets. You might also try Cyrillic keyboard etc. Found an article from Sun about different keyboard support in Solaris that may be an interesting perspective: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2521/6mi67tj4s?a=view Not sure if any of these are the best ways to do things, but at least it's an easy way to get familiar with how others have solved similar problems. And it looks like there is a need, when I searched for Farsi keyboard I saw page after page of stickers. Hope this helps, Michael Micheletti On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:58 AM, majid dadgar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Greetings,* I am about to search/research/(re)design some keyboard tailored to the local/native language and culture (of my own country). I'm in the first stage of gathering data/related articles+essays/advices/rules/possibilities/do's and dont's/methods /models/studies/references/books/case studies, etc. I was wondering: *1.* that if any similar project has been done in any country around the world? *2. *What is the logic/method/philosophy for arrangement of the buttons (alphabets+numbers+key commands+all others) on keyboards? *3. *How can we optimize/(re)design keyboards based on brain/mind characteristics of people living/speaking in certain cultures?in which way Language(alphabet letters/pronunciation)/Life style/(visual) culture would affect keyboards? I think every native/mother-tongue language provides unique understanding and mind framework that in this case would interact with keyboards. e.g. the concept of Home (think it as a button on keyboard) would be different in different cultures, would be different in different languages scripts; and it would make a different picture of Home. *Cheers, Majid. *-- Industrial Design, BA, University of Tehran. - - - - - - - -- - - - P.O.Box: 15635-119, Tehran, Iran. - - - - - - - -- - - - : : once upon a time Design : : http://1to3Design.blogspot.com - - - - - - - -- - - - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Keyur Sorathia Towards Better Interaction IDII+DA - 07, Italy. mobile : +91 98198 15448 http://towardsbetterinteraction.wordpress.com/ -- Industrial Design, BA, University of Tehran. - - - - - - - -- - - - P.O.Box: 15635-119, Tehran, Iran. - - - - - - - -- - - - : : once upon a time Design : : http://1to3Design.blogspot.com - - - - - - - -- - - - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe
[IxDA Discuss] Language\Culture-based Keyboard
Majid asked a few questions about keyboards in various languages. Having watched the Persian / Arabic keyboard used in a painfully slow manner by most Iranians I know, what is immediately obvious is that the current keyboard *may* need a few adjustments. We pre-PC English typers grew up with typewriters and, as a result, are using a keyboard specifically designed to slow down typing: http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/qwerty.htm so that the keys wouldn't jam. This is not a problem with a computer and new keyboards have been proposed (some much earlier than the development of the PC), but not yet widely adopted: http://tinyurl.com/5lzpb3, http://www.reason.com/news/show/29944.html, http://home.earthlink.net/~dcrehr/whyqwert.html . So, good luck with your project. Maybe your university will get you a few articles: http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheNcpsidt=7341812 , http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=67933.67934 (check out the References, there are several articles cited that you might want to get) Tori Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Language\Culture-based Keyboard
Hi, You might want to check out the Gesture Based Keyboard by Hewlett Packard Labs India launched 2 years back. http://www.hpl.hp.com/news/2006/jan-mar/keyboard_release.html http://www.hpl.hp.com/india/research/aad-gkb.html Regards, Mayur On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:55 PM, majid dadgar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone for the quick answers. that's loads of information. I'll provide some feedback of my studies/searches/researches in the meantime. Best, Majid. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Keyur Sorathia [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Majid, You can go through key lekh, developed for Indian (devnagiri) language, which will give you a good idea about language/culture based keyboard. Here you are. http://www.idc.iitb.ac.in/~anirudha/papers/ex06-joshi.pdfhttp://www.idc.iitb.ac.in/%7Eanirudha/papers/ex06-joshi.pdf You can also contact Prof. Anirudha Joshi who was in the team of developing this keyboard. Cheers!! On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:34 PM, alok nandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Majid, Some examples of keyboards ref. Indic languages are here http://www.bhashaindia.com/Developers/IndianLang/Typingdnagari/dnpages.aspx and many more on the web in Indic Language Computing. Best, Alok NANDI design.architempo.net indiainflux.architempo.net At 16:47 10/11/2008, Michael Micheletti wrote: Hi Majid, I did some quick searching using Google Images for Arabic keyboard and Hebrew keyboard to look at examples of keyboards with non-Latin alphabets. You might also try Cyrillic keyboard etc. Found an article from Sun about different keyboard support in Solaris that may be an interesting perspective: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2521/6mi67tj4s?a=view Not sure if any of these are the best ways to do things, but at least it's an easy way to get familiar with how others have solved similar problems. And it looks like there is a need, when I searched for Farsi keyboard I saw page after page of stickers. Hope this helps, Michael Micheletti On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:58 AM, majid dadgar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Greetings,* I am about to search/research/(re)design some keyboard tailored to the local/native language and culture (of my own country). I'm in the first stage of gathering data/related articles+essays/advices/rules/possibilities/do's and dont's/methods /models/studies/references/books/case studies, etc. I was wondering: *1.* that if any similar project has been done in any country around the world? *2. *What is the logic/method/philosophy for arrangement of the buttons (alphabets+numbers+key commands+all others) on keyboards? *3. *How can we optimize/(re)design keyboards based on brain/mind characteristics of people living/speaking in certain cultures?in which way Language(alphabet letters/pronunciation)/Life style/(visual) culture would affect keyboards? I think every native/mother-tongue language provides unique understanding and mind framework that in this case would interact with keyboards. e.g. the concept of Home (think it as a button on keyboard) would be different in different cultures, would be different in different languages scripts; and it would make a different picture of Home. *Cheers, Majid. *-- Industrial Design, BA, University of Tehran. - - - - - - - -- - - - P.O.Box: 15635-119, Tehran, Iran. - - - - - - - -- - - - : : once upon a time Design : : http://1to3Design.blogspot.com - - - - - - - -- - - - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Keyur Sorathia Towards Better Interaction IDII+DA - 07, Italy. mobile : +91 98198 15448 http://towardsbetterinteraction.wordpress.com/ -- Industrial Design, BA, University of Tehran. - - - - - - - -- - - - P.O.Box: 15635-119, Tehran, Iran. - - - - - - - --
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Language\Culture-based Keyboard
Hi Majid, Some examples of keyboards ref. Indic languages are here http://www.bhashaindia.com/Developers/IndianLang/Typingdnagari/dnpages.aspx and many more on the web in Indic Language Computing. Best, Alok NANDI design.architempo.net indiainflux.architempo.net At 16:47 10/11/2008, Michael Micheletti wrote: Hi Majid, I did some quick searching using Google Images for Arabic keyboard and Hebrew keyboard to look at examples of keyboards with non-Latin alphabets. You might also try Cyrillic keyboard etc. Found an article from Sun about different keyboard support in Solaris that may be an interesting perspective: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2521/6mi67tj4s?a=view Not sure if any of these are the best ways to do things, but at least it's an easy way to get familiar with how others have solved similar problems. And it looks like there is a need, when I searched for Farsi keyboard I saw page after page of stickers. Hope this helps, Michael Micheletti On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:58 AM, majid dadgar [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: *Greetings,* I am about to search/research/(re)design some keyboard tailored to the local/native language and culture (of my own country). I'm in the first stage of gathering data/related articles+essays/advices/rules/possibilities/do's and dont's/methods /models/studies/references/books/case studies, etc. I was wondering: *1.* that if any similar project has been done in any country around the world? *2. *What is the logic/method/philosophy for arrangement of the buttons (alphabets+numbers+key commands+all others) on keyboards? *3. *How can we optimize/(re)design keyboards based on brain/mind characteristics of people living/speaking in certain cultures?in which way Language(alphabet letters/pronunciation)/Life style/(visual) culture would affect keyboards? I think every native/mother-tongue language provides unique understanding and mind framework that in this case would interact with keyboards. e.g. the concept of Home (think it as a button on keyboard) would be different in different cultures, would be different in different languages scripts; and it would make a different picture of Home. *Cheers, Majid. *-- Industrial Design, BA, University of Tehran. - - - - - - - -- - - - P.O.Box: 15635-119, Tehran, Iran. - - - - - - - -- - - - : : once upon a time Design : : http://1to3Design.blogspot.com - - - - - - - -- - - - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Language\Culture-based Keyboard
Hi Majid, I did some quick searching using Google Images for Arabic keyboard and Hebrew keyboard to look at examples of keyboards with non-Latin alphabets. You might also try Cyrillic keyboard etc. Found an article from Sun about different keyboard support in Solaris that may be an interesting perspective: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2521/6mi67tj4s?a=view Not sure if any of these are the best ways to do things, but at least it's an easy way to get familiar with how others have solved similar problems. And it looks like there is a need, when I searched for Farsi keyboard I saw page after page of stickers. Hope this helps, Michael Micheletti On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:58 AM, majid dadgar [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: *Greetings,* I am about to search/research/(re)design some keyboard tailored to the local/native language and culture (of my own country). I'm in the first stage of gathering data/related articles+essays/advices/rules/possibilities/do's and dont's/methods /models/studies/references/books/case studies, etc. I was wondering: *1.* that if any similar project has been done in any country around the world? *2. *What is the logic/method/philosophy for arrangement of the buttons (alphabets+numbers+key commands+all others) on keyboards? *3. *How can we optimize/(re)design keyboards based on brain/mind characteristics of people living/speaking in certain cultures?in which way Language(alphabet letters/pronunciation)/Life style/(visual) culture would affect keyboards? I think every native/mother-tongue language provides unique understanding and mind framework that in this case would interact with keyboards. e.g. the concept of Home (think it as a button on keyboard) would be different in different cultures, would be different in different languages scripts; and it would make a different picture of Home. *Cheers, Majid. *-- Industrial Design, BA, University of Tehran. - - - - - - - -- - - - P.O.Box: 15635-119, Tehran, Iran. - - - - - - - -- - - - : : once upon a time Design : : http://1to3Design.blogspot.com - - - - - - - -- - - - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Language\Culture-based Keyboard
*Greetings,* I am about to search/research/(re)design some keyboard tailored to the local/native language and culture (of my own country). I'm in the first stage of gathering data/related articles+essays/advices/rules/possibilities/do's and dont's/methods /models/studies/references/books/case studies, etc. I was wondering: *1.* that if any similar project has been done in any country around the world? *2. *What is the logic/method/philosophy for arrangement of the buttons (alphabets+numbers+key commands+all others) on keyboards? *3. *How can we optimize/(re)design keyboards based on brain/mind characteristics of people living/speaking in certain cultures?in which way Language(alphabet letters/pronunciation)/Life style/(visual) culture would affect keyboards? I think every native/mother-tongue language provides unique understanding and mind framework that in this case would interact with keyboards. e.g. the concept of Home (think it as a button on keyboard) would be different in different cultures, would be different in different languages scripts; and it would make a different picture of Home. *Cheers, Majid. *-- Industrial Design, BA, University of Tehran. - - - - - - - -- - - - P.O.Box: 15635-119, Tehran, Iran. - - - - - - - -- - - - : : once upon a time Design : : http://1to3Design.blogspot.com - - - - - - - -- - - - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Language\Culture-based Keyboard
Hi Majid, You can go through key lekh, developed for Indian (devnagiri) language, which will give you a good idea about language/culture based keyboard. Here you are. http://www.idc.iitb.ac.in/~anirudha/papers/ex06-joshi.pdf You can also contact Prof. Anirudha Joshi who was in the team of developing this keyboard. Cheers!! On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:34 PM, alok nandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Majid, Some examples of keyboards ref. Indic languages are here http://www.bhashaindia.com/Developers/IndianLang/Typingdnagari/dnpages.aspx and many more on the web in Indic Language Computing. Best, Alok NANDI design.architempo.net indiainflux.architempo.net At 16:47 10/11/2008, Michael Micheletti wrote: Hi Majid, I did some quick searching using Google Images for Arabic keyboard and Hebrew keyboard to look at examples of keyboards with non-Latin alphabets. You might also try Cyrillic keyboard etc. Found an article from Sun about different keyboard support in Solaris that may be an interesting perspective: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2521/6mi67tj4s?a=view Not sure if any of these are the best ways to do things, but at least it's an easy way to get familiar with how others have solved similar problems. And it looks like there is a need, when I searched for Farsi keyboard I saw page after page of stickers. Hope this helps, Michael Micheletti On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:58 AM, majid dadgar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Greetings,* I am about to search/research/(re)design some keyboard tailored to the local/native language and culture (of my own country). I'm in the first stage of gathering data/related articles+essays/advices/rules/possibilities/do's and dont's/methods /models/studies/references/books/case studies, etc. I was wondering: *1.* that if any similar project has been done in any country around the world? *2. *What is the logic/method/philosophy for arrangement of the buttons (alphabets+numbers+key commands+all others) on keyboards? *3. *How can we optimize/(re)design keyboards based on brain/mind characteristics of people living/speaking in certain cultures?in which way Language(alphabet letters/pronunciation)/Life style/(visual) culture would affect keyboards? I think every native/mother-tongue language provides unique understanding and mind framework that in this case would interact with keyboards. e.g. the concept of Home (think it as a button on keyboard) would be different in different cultures, would be different in different languages scripts; and it would make a different picture of Home. *Cheers, Majid. *-- Industrial Design, BA, University of Tehran. - - - - - - - -- - - - P.O.Box: 15635-119, Tehran, Iran. - - - - - - - -- - - - : : once upon a time Design : : http://1to3Design.blogspot.com - - - - - - - -- - - - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Keyur Sorathia Towards Better Interaction IDII+DA - 07, Italy. mobile : +91 98198 15448 http://towardsbetterinteraction.wordpress.com/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
