[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo server admin
Hi all. Concerning ticket http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/392 I think the discussion should be brought to the attention of the list. For my experience, I do not think server administration is well suited for volunteer work. To me, server administration is a service, more or less like accounting or printing brochures. Moreover, I do not think precious developer time (the main limiting resource for open source software IMHO) is profitably spent administering servers (but thanks to all who are doing it!). In short, I'm suggesting to hire a part time server admin, who should be in charge of software upgrades (e.g. the trac) etc. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo server admin
Or, of course, another option would be those members of OSGeo who are more or less corporate members could volunteer time of a member of staff who would otherwise be not contributing to the OSGeo effort. And in defence of all those who are not developers, being a sys admin is rather harder than printing brochures or accounting. Some might even suggest it is as hard as being a developer. But we wouldn't want to listen to them, would we ;) Cheers Chris - Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote: Hi all. Concerning ticket http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/392 I think the discussion should be brought to the attention of the list. For my experience, I do not think server administration is well suited for volunteer work. To me, server administration is a service, more or less like accounting or printing brochures. Moreover, I do not think precious developer time (the main limiting resource for open source software IMHO) is profitably spent administering servers (but thanks to all who are doing it!). In short, I'm suggesting to hire a part time server admin, who should be in charge of software upgrades (e.g. the trac) etc. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Files attached to this email may be in ISO 26300 format (OASIS Open Document Format). If you have difficulty opening them, please visit http://iso26300.info for more information. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo server admin
Chris Puttick ha scritto: And in defence of all those who are not developers, being a sys admin is rather harder than sure, sorry if someone felt offended: I did not speak of hardness, just as a kind of work: you can be a dev and contribute when you have good ideas/time/inspiration etc., if you are an accountant or an admin you have to be there in time, that's it. http://www.sysadminday.com/ :) All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo server admin
Paolo Cavallini wrote: Hi all. Concerning ticket http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/392 I think the discussion should be brought to the attention of the list. Good point! For my experience, I do not think server administration is well suited for volunteer work. To me, server administration is a service, more or less like accounting or printing brochures. A 'poisonous' person may say that software development is a service that is not well suited for volunteer work ;-) Moreover, I do not think precious developer time (the main limiting resource for open source software IMHO) is profitably spent administering servers (but thanks to all who are doing it!). Agreed, absolutely! In short, I'm suggesting to hire a part time server admin, who should be in charge of software upgrades (e.g. the trac) etc. All the best. If OSGeo can afford it, I think it's sounds like a very good plan. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo server admin
Paolo Cavallini wrote: Hi all. Concerning ticket http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/392 I think the discussion should be brought to the attention of the list. For my experience, I do not think server administration is well suited for volunteer work. To me, server administration is a service, more or less like accounting or printing brochures. Moreover, I do not think precious developer time (the main limiting resource for open source software IMHO) is profitably spent administering servers (but thanks to all who are doing it!). In short, I'm suggesting to hire a part time server admin, who should be in charge of software upgrades (e.g. the trac) etc. Paolo, Within some limits, I feel that system administration can be well suited to volunteers. I don't feel OSGeo can afford a good system administrator at market rates, even part time. If we were paying market rates I think it would take some serious cost benefit analysis to determine if the Trac upgrade would be a worthwhile investment of money. Nevertheless, I do keep an eye out for possible system administration services we could contract for at below international market rates to do some tasks that are now generally left undone, even if we couldn't get the fire and forget caliber of admin it would be nice to have. I'd add that at this time SAC's budget is rather modest, and focused on paying our Peer1 hosting costs, and the planned acquisition of some modest additional hardware. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
