Re: [slim] Announce: 6.0b3
The Beta 3 is not starting up for me. I re-installed Beta 2. Am I the only one with this problem? Dan Sully wrote: This is a follow up on beta 2 to fix some critical bugs. Downloads are at the usual place: http://www.slimdevices.com/download SlimServer 6.0 Beta 3 Release Notes: Performance: * Improved the speed for Browse Music Folder and Browsing Playlists. General: * Fixed a bug that was preventing SoftSqueeze from being launched. * Fixed a potential problem that could cause malformed UTF-8 characters on Windows systems. Bugs fixed: # 874 - Browsing large directories is very slow. # 955 - SS v6.0b1 scanning library glacially slow #1124 - 'Now playing (jump back on wake)' does not change with song title change. #1125 - Not able to ffw mp3 on sb1 or flac on sq2. #1127 - Installer hangs after clicking Update #1128 - Clicking on the letters of the alphabet doesnt jump to album beginning with that letter.:w ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss . ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Display Duration Problem
Does this mean the bug will be fixed or does it mean that the functionality has changed and I will be unable to display messages on the slim devices I have ? .. nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kdf Sent: 19 March 2005 21:04 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] Display Duration Problem Quoting Nick Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi either I am missing something or they may be a bug in version 6.0 that has affected the duration when sending text to the slim device. When I send text to a slim device the text inly briefly flashes on the display. In fact the longer I make the duration the shorter it seems to get I am sure this is only a small issue on the scale of things, but I make a lot of use of the display capability of the slim device as I have 5 slim device around the home. Is there a bit of a bug or has the syntax change in V6. Worked fine in V 5.4 This is likely related to a known bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587 showBriefly is broken, so you only get from the time the text is shown until the next automatic refresh. This used to be a fixed 1s refresh, but recent updates have made this more an 'as needed'. sometimes the refresh cycle is very fast, thus your display messages are lost. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: 6.0b3
I tried it on Windows, the installation (on top of 5.4.1) went fine but the slimserver UI comes out blank (an empty window). Michel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Announce: 6.0b3
I have the same issue. I have upgraded B2 to B3 and the GUI is blank. I have also un-installed and re-installed and get the same issue. Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michel Sent: 20 March 2005 10:13 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: Re: [slim] Announce: 6.0b3 I tried it on Windows, the installation (on top of 5.4.1) went fine but the slimserver UI comes out blank (an empty window). Michel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: 6.0b3
Same here. No go on Windows XP Pro. First attempt I installed it on top of 6.0b1 but the service failed to start up. Starting it manually gave me an error message that the servic started then immediately shut down. So I completely uninstalled, then reinstalled clean. Now the service doesn't even appear. - Original Message - From: Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 3:13 AM Subject: Re: [slim] Announce: 6.0b3 I tried it on Windows, the installation (on top of 5.4.1) went fine but the slimserver UI comes out blank (an empty window). Michel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: 6.0b3
Hi with B1 and B2 I've seen this same error message that the service was starting and then immediately shutdown (when trying to start the service manually because it did not work on automatic). I was adviced by Dan to delete the file C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Cache\slimserversql.db and that solved this issue. However with B3 the service starts but no-UI (blank window). In the meantime I reverted back to 5.4.1 which works fine. Michel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: 6.0b3
JJ wrote: Same here. No go on Windows XP Pro. First attempt I installed it on top of 6.0b1 but the service failed to start up. Starting it manually gave me an error message that the servic started then immediately shut down. So I completely uninstalled, then reinstalled clean. Now the service doesn't even appear. - Original Message - From: Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 3:13 AM Subject: Re: [slim] Announce: 6.0b3 I tried it on Windows, the installation (on top of 5.4.1) went fine but the slimserver UI comes out blank (an empty window). Michel I had the same no start problem between the 3/17 and 3/18 nightlies. I tracked the problem down to the .Pref file but i never managed to track it down to a particular item. Deleting the pref file would allow it to start. I am also seeing no web interface on 6.0b3 on xp Pro Craig ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Issue with fishbone skin 5.4.1
Having had problems with the latest B3 version 6.0 I have reverted back to 5.4.1 R2448, but I am now getting the Page cannot be found error on my server When trying to open the GUI using the Fishbone skin. Other skins seem to be ok! Any ideas .. nick ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] RE: POP3 Email Check on Windows
James, It's version 6 beta download thanks ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox1G display improvements are great!
The only problem I am having now is that if I have a web ui, it refreshes around the time of a track change causing a skip in the music - especially if the playlist is large. Without the webui open things are fine. I don't think this is a wireless bandwidth issue though as when I am streaming pcm, I can copy large files from my (wireless) laptop from the slimserver at around 8mbps (18% of 54g). John, Is this related to the scolling or independant? i.e. if you set the scolling parameters back to defauts does it change this? Adrian ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Itunes playlists missing on Slim server 5.4.1
Title: Itunes playlists missing on Slim server 5.4.1 Ive just upgraded to 5.4.1 and noticed that iTunes Playlists are missing from the Browse Playlists menu on the Slimserver web page and Squeezebox menu. The only playlists listed are those in the /User/Music/Playlist directory specified in the Playlists Folder settings under Server Settings. Im sure that previously iTunes playlists AND playlists in the Playlist Folder were listed under Browse Playlists however am not sure what combination of iTunes/Slimserver this was with... Im using Slimserver 5.4.1, iTunes 4.7.1, OSX 10.3.8 and Slimserver is set to use iTunes. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using linux to generate a FLAC file of a complete CD
Hi, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], michael[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (This assumes that cd.vc already exists and contains the tags you want to add. You could probably use cdrdao's cddb features to handle this inline as well, but I'm not thrilled with the quality I get from cddb, so I pull mine from musicbrainz instead.) Can you tell me how I would generate this file? I tried using the .toc file generated by cdrdao, ut that didn't work. Thanks Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Question on Connection speed and Internet Radio
David Renee MacDonald wrote: I am considering moving to the country where broadband is unavailable. Right now I have DSL but no dial up connection. You might get a better answer to this from the support forum of the ISP you plan to use after you move. It's not really slimserver-specific. - Marc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using linux to generate a FLAC file of a complete CD
On Friday 18 March 2005 06:08 pm, Andy Hawkins wrote: Can someone point me to some instructions as to how to do the following under linux? 1. Rip an entire CD to a single WAV file 2. Encode this to FLAC 3. Apply tags from CDDB to this FLAC file so it has info for all the tracks in it 4. Generate and apply a cue file so that slimserver can play the file. Funny, I just posted this message to another thread yesterday: Here's the process I've been using (scripted, of course): 1) Rip the entire CD to a single WAV file: cdparanoia [::]- CD.wav 2) Read the CD's TOC: cdrdao read-toc --fast-toc --datafile CD.wav CD.toc 3) Convert TOC to CUE: cueconvert -f CD.toc -f CD.cue 4) Get CDDB information and store it in a YAML file That is the ripping process. It gets all of the information that is derived from the source CD, so that the next step, encoding, can be done separately. I encode to several different formats for various purposes: 1) Encode single WAV file to single FLAC file: flac --cuesheet=CD.cue [insert tags here...] CD.wav 2) Split CD.wav into multiple WAV files: cuebreakpoints -f CD.cue | shnsplit CD.wav 3) Now that I have individual WAV files per track, I encode them to Ogg Vorbis and mp3. The cuetools package and the shntool package are not available in Debian, but you can get them from the RareWares repository: deb http://www.rarewares.org/debian/packages/unstable ./ Some of the problems that I've yet to resolve are: * Some CUE sheets that list DATA segments cannot be added to the FLAC CUESHEET block. I may need to massage some CUE sheets before encoding the FLAC file, so that I can remove such DATA segments. * How to tag multi-disc sets. Slim provides support for a DISC tag, but I think I need two tags: DISCNUMBER and DISCNAME (for multi-disc sets where each disc has its own title) Let me know if you have any other questions. I've been pretty heavily researching how to do all this on Debian for quite a while. Pretty soon I'll have a Ruby script that others might be able to use, but right now it's pretty specific to my environment. -- Jason Voegele pgpDYpI2Kp9Lx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using linux to generate a FLAC file of a complete CD
Hi, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jason Voegele[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the process I've been using (scripted, of course): Thanks for that, I think I've now got to the point where I can create a single FLAC file containing the entire CD and cues for individual tracks. The only bit I'm stuck with now is how to include tags for each track in the FLAC file, such that the individual tracks can then be selected from within SlimServer. Can you offer any assistance? Thanks Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using linux to generate a FLAC file of a complete CD
On Sunday 20 March 2005 09:34 am, Andy Hawkins wrote: The only bit I'm stuck with now is how to include tags for each track in the FLAC file, such that the individual tracks can then be selected from within SlimServer. http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/developers/2004-August/009836.html That link has some information about how to tag the single FLAC files appropriately. -- Jason Voegele pgp8lXKbUZEw2.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Multi-Disc Sets: DISCNAME Tag?
I'm about to embark on re-ripping my CD collection, and want to do my best to get it right from the outset so that I don't have to go back and do it all (yet) again. One of the issues I'm facing now is with multi-disc sets. I'd prefer not to embed disc numbers and the like into the ALBUM tag, so I plan on using SlimServer's support for the SET tag, which I believe is mapped to the DISCNUMBER tag for FLAC files. Simply putting the disc number into the DISCNUMBER tag for my FLAC files solves half the problem for me. The other half of the problem is where to store the name of the disc for multi-disc sets that have individually named discs. For example, Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness consists of two discs: 1) Dawn to Dusk 2) Twilight to Starlight I know that some players support a DISCNAME tag where this information could be stored. Does SlimServer have anything analogous that I could use? If not, would it be possible to add support for this tag? Here is how I would like the tagging to work: ALBUM=Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness DISCNUMBER=1 DISCNAME=Dawn to Dusk ALBUM=Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness DISCNUMBER=2 DISCNAME=Twilight to Starlight Ideally, this would show up on the SqueezeBox Now Playing list something like this: Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (Disc 1: Dawn to Dusk) Any thoughts? Thanks -- Jason Voegele pgpoXCOF9Wo9S.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] AlienBBC 0.94 web ui bug
At the bottom of the page there are 2 links AlienBBC Home and Exit AlienBBC, I think these do what you require. Neil John Gorst wrote: When navigating the alienbbc program listings using the defaul skin web ui there is not a link to 'home'. This makes it impossible (well, wihtout using the browser back button which is difficult if the now playing lsit has updated itself several times) to get back to the main page. Cheers ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: 6.0b3
Mac 10.3.8, 6.0b3. Rescan same time as in 6.0b2, 17th nightly 50mins for around 10k tracks Cpu usage now normal 1-5% under normal condidtions. Still getting 'blank' tracks problem on sb. I set the -d sql debug option. The first log, which found and displayed all the songs was a search for sweet in the browser. 2005-03-20 14:53:23.1381 Generated findKey: [contributor:contributor.name:SWEE*:* SWEE*] 2005-03-20 14:53:23.1421 Start and End node: [contributor:contributor] 2005-03-20 14:53:23.1462 Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::DataStores::DBI::DataModel::find (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/ DataStores/DBI/DBIStore.pm line 241) frame 1: Slim::DataStores::DBI::DBIStore::find (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/ Music/LiveSearch.pm line 40) frame 2: Slim::Music::LiveSearch::query (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Web/ Pages.pm line 1413) frame 3: Slim::Web::Pages::livesearch (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Web/ HTTP.pm line 744) frame 4: Slim::Web::HTTP::generateHTTPResponse (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Web/ HTTP.pm line 665) frame 5: Slim::Web::HTTP::processURL (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Web/ HTTP.pm line 529) frame 6: Slim::Web::HTTP::processHTTP (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/ Networking/Select.pm line 115) frame 7: Slim::Networking::Select::select (./slimserver.pl line 592) frame 8: main::idle (./slimserver.pl line 535) frame 9: main::main (./slimserver.pl line 1100) 2005-03-20 14:53:23.1475 Running SQL query: [SELECT DISTINCT contributors.id AS id,contributors.name AS name,contributors.namesort AS namesort,contributors.moodlogic_id AS moodlogic_id,contributors.moodlogic_mixable AS moodlogic_mixable,contributors.musicmagic_mixable AS musicmagic_mixable FROM contributor_track, contributors WHERE contributors.id = contributor_track.contributor AND ( ( ( contributors.namesort like ? ) OR ( contributors.namesort like ? ) ) )] 2005-03-20 14:53:23.1492 Bind arguments: [SWEE%, % SWEE%] 2005-03-20 14:53:23.4002 Generated findKey: [album:album.title:SWEE*:* SWEE*] 2005-03-20 14:53:23.4124 Start and End node: [album:album] 2005-03-20 14:53:23.4163 Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::DataStores::DBI::DataModel::find (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/ DataStores/DBI/DBIStore.pm line 241) frame 1: Slim::DataStores::DBI::DBIStore::find (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/ Music/LiveSearch.pm line 40) frame 2: Slim::Music::LiveSearch::query (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Web/ Pages.pm line 1413) frame 3: Slim::Web::Pages::livesearch (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Web/ HTTP.pm line 744) frame 4: Slim::Web::HTTP::generateHTTPResponse (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Web/ HTTP.pm line 665) frame 5: Slim::Web::HTTP::processURL (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Web/ HTTP.pm line 529) frame 6: Slim::Web::HTTP::processHTTP (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/ Networking/Select.pm line 115) frame 7: Slim::Networking::Select::select (./slimserver.pl line 592) frame 8: main::idle (./slimserver.pl line 535) frame 9: main::main (./slimserver.pl line 1100) 2005-03-20 14:53:23.4176 Running SQL query: [SELECT DISTINCT albums.id AS id,albums.title AS title,albums.titlesort AS titlesort,albums.contributors AS contributors,albums.artwork_path AS artwork_path,albums.disc AS disc,albums.discc AS discc,albums.musicmagic_mixable AS musicmagic_mixable FROM tracks, albums WHERE albums.id = tracks.album AND ( ( ( albums.titlesort like ? ) OR ( albums.titlesort like ? ) ) )] 2005-03-20 14:53:23.5116 Bind arguments: [SWEE%, % SWEE%] 2005-03-20 14:53:24.2986 Generated findKey: [track:track.title:SWEE*:* SWEE*] 2005-03-20 14:53:24.3030 Start and End node: [default:default] 2005-03-20 14:53:24.3071 Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::DataStores::DBI::DataModel::find (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/ DataStores/DBI/DBIStore.pm line 241) frame 1: Slim::DataStores::DBI::DBIStore::find (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/ Music/LiveSearch.pm line 40) frame 2: Slim::Music::LiveSearch::query (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Web/ Pages.pm line 1413) frame 3: Slim::Web::Pages::livesearch (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Web/ HTTP.pm line 744) frame 4: Slim::Web::HTTP::generateHTTPResponse (/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Web/ HTTP.pm line 665) frame 5:
Re: [slim] Using linux to generate a FLAC file of a complete CD
Hi, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jason Voegele[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/developers/2004-August/009836.html That link has some information about how to tag the single FLAC files=20 appropriately. Excellent, that explains a lot. I don't suppose anyone has already written some perl or whatever to transform .toc or .cue file into an appropriate format? If not, I'll knock something up myself and make it available if anyone is interested. Thanks to all for their help so far. Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using linux to generate a FLAC file of a complete CD
On Sunday 20 March 2005 10:05 am, Andy Hawkins wrote: I don't suppose anyone has already written some perl or whatever to transform .toc or .cue file into an appropriate format? If not, I'll knock something up myself and make it available if anyone is interested. I'm in the process of doing so in Ruby, but it is not quite ready for distribution. -- Jason Voegele pgpJiV0MR7fF4.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Fixing tags
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:30:11AM -0500, Jason Voegele wrote: Two such tools that I've found for Debian are: Cantus : Gnome tool to mass-rename/tag mp3 and ogg files [...] id3ren: id3 tagger and renamer Thanks, I'll check those out. Is there code in slimserver to read tags that could be reused? Since I'm trying to fix multiple file format tags for use with Slimserver it would be nice to be able to pass in a file name and have slimserver code return me the tags that it extracted. That might help me find the files with missing info and to correctly tag files. Also, is the database schema documented someplace? -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Seeking help for Slimserver on linkstation - Started once, now get segmentation fault
I have a Kurobox/HG running the stock linux system that shipped with the box. On Friday night, I installed Perl 5.8.5 and the latest nightly build of Slimserver by following the guide created by Marc Field (Thanks to Marc for doing such an excellent job with the install guide). Following Marc's instructions, the install went smoothly and I was able to get Slimserver up and running without any problems. I moved a few mp3s over onto my kurobox and was able to have Slimserver play them. I then followed the last bit of instructions regarding getting Slimserver to start automatically after reboot. I used Mark's start-slim.sh script. However, Slimserver failed to start back up upon reboot of the Kurobox. I subseqeuntly tried to manually start Slimserver, which led to a segmentation fault and Slimserver not starting. So, Slimserver worked once, then subsequently wouldn't startup after a reboot. I was told to delete the Slimserver preference file and database and then see if it would run. Looking in the appropriate directory, I was able to find and remove the slimserver.pref file. However, no database file was present in the directory. After moving the slimserver.pref file, I tried manually starting Slimserver, but still got the segmentation fault. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Playlists menu gone
on 3/19/05 2:13 PM, kdf at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Steve Frawley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am running the 3/16 nightly on SliMP3's and the playlist menu is gone. I went to the player setup and it was listed, so I thought I would remove and re-add it for the players. I removed and there is no option to add it again. I tried several interfaces, so I suspect a server problem. if you have no playlist dir set up in browse playlists, or not using any of the importers then this option wont be listed. Do these conditions exist for you? Yes Kevin I had a folder previously but reinstalls must have blown it out. I mostly use iTunes lists. Doesn't it automatically use those when set to automatically find the iTunes library? Also, there used to be an option (PC anyway) to 'browse' to the music library or playlist folder if manually setting it rather than entering long convoluted paths. That was a major ease of use factor for the less technically inclined and streamlined setup. Also if the installer set default locations, a 'basic' setup wouldn't have missing features that required 'mucking' to get operational. Steve Frawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] From the IceBook ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: 6.0b3
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:09:59 -0800, Vidur Apparao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to be an installer issue on Windows for people who previously installed a 6.0 beta. I'm working on a fix and hope to put up a fixed version of 6.0b3 shortly. The issue seems to be that the old SQL subdirectory of your SlimServer installation is not getting correctly overwritten. Removing that directory (server/SQL under your SlimServer directory) prior to installation should work...or you can wait for the new version. :-) I should probably wait for the next version then, this is what I'm getting (win XP): Can't locate object method set_up via package Class::DBI::Relationship::HasMa ny at /PerlApp/Class/DBI.pm line 1055. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /PerlApp/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DBIStore.pm li ne 19. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /PerlApp/Slim/Music/Info.pm line 19. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Misc.pm line 15. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at slimserver.pl line 199. Undefined subroutine main::main called at slimserver.pl line 61. -- Jonas Nordström ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Announce: 6.0b3
* Jonas Nordstrm shaped the electrons to say... This seems to be an installer issue on Windows for people who previously installed a 6.0 beta. I'm working on a fix and hope to put up a fixed version of 6.0b3 shortly. The issue seems to be that the old SQL subdirectory of your SlimServer installation is not getting correctly overwritten. Removing that directory (server/SQL under your SlimServer directory) prior to installation should work...or you can wait for the new version. :-) The windows installer is fixed now. -D ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Announce: 6.0b3
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Sully [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Jacob Weber shaped the electrons to say... I'm seeing about 95% CPU usage (on one of my two 800-mHz G4s). The server is running, but not playing anything. Is this expected? Jacob - is this immediately after startup? How large is your music Library? Yep, it begins right after I start SlimServer, and stays that way. It's currently hovering around 90%. (I'm looking at the perl process that starts when I start the server.) I have, according to SlimServer, 561 albums with 6899 songs by 750 artists in my library. It's already done indexing them. I tried re-installing 6.0b2, and it started up around 90%. But after a minute or so, it quieted down to about 1%. While playing, it was closer to 3%. This is OS 10.3.8, 1.25 GB RAM, dual-800 G4. Jacob ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Browser refresh causes AAC cut-offs (5.4.1)
* Michael Robinson shaped the electrons to say... I'd rather not try SlimServer 6 as a friend tells me it is still quite buggy. Michael - this issue has been addressed for 6.0. I do suggest you give it a try. We can only make 6.0 better if we know the issues with it, and right now there are many people using it without any problems. Thanks. -D -- Off the record, on the QT, and very hush-hush. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Re: Announce: 6.0b3
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Sully [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok - I'm trying to reproduce it here. Does it happen the second SlimServer has been started? IE: It's finished indexing, you stop the server, and then restart? Yeah. Although it always starts off with high processor usage, even on 6.0b2. That seems normal. It's just that it remains high on 6.0b3. Jacob ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Announce: 6.0b3
Hi Dan, yes it works now. I still see a problem with the counts of artists, albums, genres as compared to iTunes library and also an issue with composers in artists on the SB itself (only in browse by genre). I raised a bug report (1133). Hope this helps. Michel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slight skip five seconds into playing a song
Since upgrading to the 6.0 beta, I've noticed that certain songs have a little skip about five seconds in. It doesn't happen on all songs, but on the songs where it happens, I can consistently reproduce it. Sometimes it sounds like about a quarter-second of the song gets repeated, and sometimes it's just a half-second or so of silence. The problem songs play fine on my computer through iTunes. My songs are almost all 160 kbps AAC, and these are the only ones where I've noticed it. I've tried using the stream at http://localhost:9000/stream.mp3 to play them through my computer, and I hear the same skipping. I'm seeing this bug with the following setup: - SlimServer 6.0b2 - LAME quality level: 4 - LAME bitrate limiting to 192 kbps (same results at 320 kbps) - OS 10.3.8 - 1.25 GB RAM - Dual-800gHz G4 Should I file a bug report for this? Jacob ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Re: Re: Announce: 6.0b3
* Jacob Weber shaped the electrons to say... In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Avi Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen the same with the 3/19 nightly build on Linux when a browser is connected to the server. If you close the browser page, does the CPU usage drop back to a normal level? I'm pretty sure that I didn't have the browser interface open when I noticed this. If you want I can try reinstalling b3 later and make sure. Please. Although I'm unable to reproduce it here, I'm considering it a blocking issue for 6.0 -D -- It does not do to leave a live Dragon out of your calculations.. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using linux to generate a FLAC file of a complete CD
Andy Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], michael[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (This assumes that cd.vc already exists and contains the tags you want to add. You could probably use cdrdao's cddb features to handle this inline as well, but I'm not thrilled with the quality I get from cddb, so I pull mine from musicbrainz instead.) Can you tell me how I would generate this file? I tried using the .toc file generated by cdrdao, ut that didn't work. Thanks Andy The file that metaflac imports should already be formatted as a set of tags, one tag per line. You can create this with any text editor, or you can probably whip up some script that transforms the cddb results into the appropriate format. Personally, I like the quality of musicbrainz data over that of cddb. So I've taken the getalbum program from the musicbrainz sample code, and tweaked the printf statements to produce the format We're looking for. It's not a perfect solution, but it works well enough that I rarely have to further edit the output. I can send you a diff if you like. I'm working on a more elegant solution, but it's far from ready for use. -michael -- The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. -H.P. Lovecraft pgpkaR3CAZVXF.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Multiple Occurrences of Tags
I was wondering how SlimServer currently handles such multiple occurrences, and hopefully start a discussion of how it *should* handle them, if it is not already ideal. The status quo is that SlimServer only uses the last tag of each type, at least that's the way for ARTIST. As for how it should work... I'd be happy if there were an option like this: If multiple tags of the same type are present ... - ... treat first occurence as primary - ... treat last occurence as primary - ... treat as equal For the first two entries, only one entry in the ARTIST / ALBUM / whatever list would be generated, for the last one, there'd be one entry per occurence, all pointing to the same data. Song details would always list all entries. C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Multi-Disc Sets: DISCNAME Tag?
I know that some players support a DISCNAME tag where this information could be stored. Does SlimServer have anything analogous that I could use? If not, would it be possible to add support for this tag? Here is how I would like the tagging to work: ALBUM=Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness DISCNUMBER=1 DISCNAME=Dawn to Dusk ALBUM=Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness DISCNUMBER=2 DISCNAME=Twilight to Starlight I'd have use for such a feature, I just don't know if DISCNAME is the most widely accepted way of doing it. You might want to ask over at www.hydrogenaudio.org forums - if there is a working standards body for tagging it's these guys. C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multiple Occurrences of Tags
I think you're looking for this... http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452 -michael -- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc. Jason Voegele [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Vorbis comment specification, and by extension the FLAC tag specification, allows multiple occurrences of tags. This means that you can have two or more instances of a given tag with the same name. I plan to use this feature to tag some of my music with multiple genres. For example: ARTIST=Pearl Jam GENRE=Rock GENRE=Grunge I was wondering how SlimServer currently handles such multiple occurrences, and hopefully start a discussion of how it *should* handle them, if it is not already ideal. My initial feeling is that they should be handled the same way that Multiple Items In Tags is currently handled. That is, there should be a setting that allows you to choose whether the multiple occurrences should be merged, or if only the first or last should be used, or all of them should be independently usable. Hope that makes sense. Any thoughts on this issue? Thanks. -- Jason Voegele pgpefLPGm0YEP.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Multi-Disc Sets: DISCNAME Tag?
* Christian Pernegger shaped the electrons to say... ALBUM=Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness DISCNUMBER=1 DISCNAME=Dawn to Dusk ALBUM=Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness DISCNUMBER=2 DISCNAME=Twilight to Starlight I'd have use for such a feature, I just don't know if DISCNAME is the most widely accepted way of doing it. You might want to ask over at www.hydrogenaudio.org forums - if there is a working standards body for tagging it's these guys. DISC and DISCC are what SlimServer recognizes currently. DISC is the number of the DISC in a collection. DISCC is the total number of discs in that collection. If you have both of those, and ALBUM is the same on all the tracks, SlimServer gives you the choice if viewing all of those under one album, or will dynamically show you Album (Disc 1) or Album (Disc 1 of 3). -D -- dr.pox wtf? a garbled dingbat makes java switch to DWIM? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] memory usage in 6.0
There seems to be a minor problem releasing memory grabbed during the initial scan; All three times I've used a 6.0 beta to scan my library, it's gone to a steady state usage of 60MB and then dropped by about 10 MB after restart. Here's a picture of memory consumption and processor activity during startup -- it was rechecking the files during this timeframe, then finished up neatly before the data scrolled off :) http://www.monkeynoodle.org/tmp/memory.png So, don't assume that initially poor memory usage is the final story until you've restarted. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using linux to generate a FLAC file of a complete CD
Hi, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], michael[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I like the quality of musicbrainz data over that of cddb. So I've taken the getalbum program from the musicbrainz sample code, and tweaked the printf statements to produce the format We're looking for. It's not a perfect solution, but it works well enough that I rarely have to further edit the output. I can send you a diff if you like. I'm working on a more elegant solution, but it's far from ready for use. Any chance you could send me the whole source of the program you're using? I've had generally good results through CDDB so far to be honest, but it would be useful to be able to increase the automation of the process. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Browser refresh causes AAC cut-offs (6.0b3)
Title: [slim] Re: Browser refresh causes AAC cut-offs (6.0b3) Well I tried 6.0b3 and had exactly the same problem in fact it is worse as I got a cut-off every time I clicked a link on the SlimServer browser interface not just during the periodic refreshes. A workaround would be not to have the SlimServer browser interface running while listening to music but I dont really see why I should have to do this... I took a look at the Activity Monitor on the Mac and the perl process was continually running at 60% CPU occupancy so just about any browser activity pushed the CPU to 100% when the cut-offs seemed to occur. There were no other applications running on the Mac. I'd rather not try SlimServer 6 as a friend tells me it is still quite buggy. Michael - this issue has been addressed for 6.0. I do suggest you give it a try. We can only make 6.0 better if we know the issues with it, and right now there are many people using it without any problems. Thanks. -D ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Browser refresh causes AAC cut-offs (6.0b3)
* Michael Robinson shaped the electrons to say... Well I tried 6.0b3 and had exactly the same problem in fact it is worse as I got a cut-off every time I clicked a link on the SlimServer browser interface not just during the periodic refreshes. A workaround would be not to have the SlimServer browser interface running while listening to music but I dont really see why I should have to do this... I took a look at the Activity Monitor on the Mac and the perl process was continually running at 60% CPU occupancy so just about any browser activity pushed the CPU to 100% when the cut-offs seemed to occur. There were no other applications running on the Mac. Michael - has the server finished scanning? There is also a cleanup task which runs right after scanning, depending on how large your collection is, it might take a few minutes. -D -- This knob controls the thing that changes when you turn it. - noah ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Minor 6.0 problems
I've been having a few problems since switching over to 6.0 on my WinXP server (although it's been largely painless). First, I can't really quantify it, but it seems like the Squeezebox display is displaying the info for the next song a good 2-3 seconds before the previous song is finished playing. I'm not sure, but this might have been happening with the 5.4 version as well. Second, when starting up a new playlist, it often (but not always) skips the first song and throws this error: Use of uninitialized value in numeric gt () at /PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 1642. Use of uninitialized value in subtraction (-) at /PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 1644. Use of uninitialized value in numeric gt () at /PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 1654. I've seen this one across all of the 6.0 betas so far. Third, just since I switched to 6.0b3 (using the Fishbone skin), the iTunes playlists are coming up with an itunesplaylist: prefix even though I specifically have no prefix or suffix in the settings. They also have %20 anywhere a space is present in the playlist name. I've tried setting the prefix to something and then changing it back, but it seems to ignore the setting entirely. This was not the case in b2. I was having huge problems with high CPU load-induced dropouts, but I solved them by increasing the iTunes library reload interval to an obscenely large number and all was well. Perhaps defaulting that to a higher value would be a good idea? If there's anything I can do to help narrow down the source of any of these, someone just let me know. I have very little programming experience, but I follow directions well! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Re: Re: Announce: 6.0b3
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jacob Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Sully [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure that I didn't have the browser interface open when I noticed this. If you want I can try reinstalling b3 later and make sure. Please. Although I'm unable to reproduce it here, I'm considering it a blocking issue for 6.0 I just reinstalled 6.0b3, without ever opening the browser interface. Same results. Not sure if this will help, but here's a sample from Activity Viewer. I ran this about a minute after starting the server. Well, unfortunately, the problem seems to have disappeared after a restart. It's back down to 1% with 6.0b3, even with the web interface open. Strange. I'll let you know if it reappears. However, after starting to play a track and then turning off the player, I notice that there's a process mov123 that's hung. I think this belongs to SlimServer? Jacob ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Multi-Disc Sets: DISCNAME Tag?
DISC and DISCC are what SlimServer recognizes currently. DISC is the number of the DISC in a collection. DISCC is the total number of discs in that collection. If you have both of those, and ALBUM is the same on all the tracks, SlimServer gives you the choice if viewing all of those under one album, or will dynamically show you Album (Disc 1) or Album (Disc 1 of 3). I know, it's what I'm using at the moment. However, I believe the original poster was referring to cases where there are not only multiple discs in a set but all of them have a title of their own, besides the title of the overall album. E.g. I have Here And There by Elton John, which consists of discs London and New York, named after the location of the live concert on them. If we could find out what the most widely used tag for this was (probably DISCNAME or DISCTITLE) then slimserver could show: Here And There (Disc 1 - London) Here And There (Disc 1 - New York) in the album list for single mode, and: Here And There for for set mode, as it already does. The track listings would probably have just: ...from Here And There (Disc 1 - New York) in single mode and: ...from Here And There (New York) for set mode. C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mandrake install problem
* Dave Horoschak shaped the electrons to say... I just installed 6.0b3 on Mandrake 9.0 (first SlimServer install). I'm getting an error Can't locate auto/DBI/connect_cac.al in slimserver.log. It would appear that I need to install a module, but which one? Please run Bin/build-perl-modules.pl It appears that Mandrake has built their perl differently than RedHat. -D -- ZangTT berkeley db - it's mostly about the hash() ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Mandrake install problem
This worked, but the script ended up failing with parse errors. It installed what I needed, though so I'm up running. Thanks. - Dave Dan Sully wrote: * Dave Horoschak shaped the electrons to say... I just installed 6.0b3 on Mandrake 9.0 (first SlimServer install). I'm getting an error Can't locate auto/DBI/connect_cac.al in slimserver.log. It would appear that I need to install a module, but which one? Please run Bin/build-perl-modules.pl It appears that Mandrake has built their perl differently than RedHat. -D ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Updating PublicRadioFanBrowser.pm to v6.0?
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:21:07 -0800, kdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hrm... --d_remotestream maybe?? I've given it an online home, but I rarely actually use it, so I can't really offer much other advice. The error you mentioned seem to indicate that a required class wasn't workign right usually that is due to a bad module for that class. maybe running with perl -d will help shed some light. OK finally figured this out -- USER ERROR! I had an invalid HTTP_PROXY environment variable set and apparently the ONLY app I ever use that uses that is this plugin. I enabled the debug lines that are commented out in the publicradiofan plugin.pm file and it was quickly evident that the request wasn't being processed correctly. Anyway, works great now -- thanks for your help! SlimServer 6.0 is looking GREAT! Ben ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Re: Re: Announce: 6.0b3
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jacob Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, unfortunately, the problem seems to have disappeared after a restart. It's back down to 1% with 6.0b3, even with the web interface open. Strange. I'll let you know if it reappears. Here's something that's reproducible: 1. Restart computer. 2. Start SlimServer. 3. Run iTunes. 4. At this point, perl's CPU usage is around 1%. 5. Add a new track to iTunes. 6. perl's CPU usage jumps to 99%. 7. It stays this way for about ten minutes, then jumps back down to 1%. Jacob ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Re: Re: Announce: 6.0b3
Quoting Jacob Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jacob Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, unfortunately, the problem seems to have disappeared after a restart. It's back down to 1% with 6.0b3, even with the web interface open. Strange. I'll let you know if it reappears. Here's something that's reproducible: 1. Restart computer. 2. Start SlimServer. 3. Run iTunes. 4. At this point, perl's CPU usage is around 1%. 5. Add a new track to iTunes. 6. perl's CPU usage jumps to 99%. 7. It stays this way for about ten minutes, then jumps back down to 1%. add a new track to itunes, causes a rescan of itunes. changing your itunes rescan interval (server settings-itunes) will put this off for a minimum time instead of rescanning one minute after every change. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Itunes playlists missing on Slim server 5.4.1
Michael Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ive just upgraded to 5.4.1 and noticed that iTunes Playlists are missing from the Browse Playlists menu on the Slimserver web page and Squeezebox menu. The only playlists listed are those in the /User/Music/Playlist directory specified in the Playlists Folder settings under Server Settings. They're not missing, it just seems that the server is taking a very long time to rescan the library. I'm seeing this too with the most recent (last week of) nightly builds of 5.4.1. I've gone away and left SlimServer for hours and come back to find that it's still scanning the library. I notice the latest beta of SlimServer 6 fixes rescanning running glacially slowly. Is this the same issue? Can the bugfix be merged into 5.4.1? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 6.0 nightly build 2005-03-19 unresponsive
Dan Sully wrote: * Avi Schwartz shaped the electrons to say... The web interface of 2005-03-19 nightly build of 6.x is completely unresponsive during playback. This is a machine dedicated to slimserver so there isn't much running on it besides slimserver and related utilities. top shows a load average of 1.00 and slimserver is using 97% of the CPU: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 3442 slimserv 25 0 53220 50m 4344 R 97.2 10.3 29:18.69 slimserver.pl 4623 slimserv 16 0 3720 2036 2036 S 1.7 0.4 0:02.57 lame 4622 slimserv 15 0 3908 660 688 S 0.7 0.1 0:01.37 flac I did not have this problem with previous releases. Avi - There have been changes to the schema that neccessitate a rebuild of the database. In addition, even if that rebuild isn't neccessary, when SlimServer first starts up, it scans your music library for any files that no longer exist, and removes them from the database. I very happy to say that the performance problems I had with the 2005-03-19 6.0x release while connected to the server via a browser disappeared when I installed the 2005-03-20 release. Out of curiosity, did you find the problem or was it just a Gremlin that got into the build process? :-) Thanks, Avi ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 2005-03-20 6.x NBMU issues
If I remember correctly, this skin used to highlight the current track in red. Now it is stuck on track 1. Also there seems to be an html problem. In the status frame an extra appears to the right and bottom of the image. Avi ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using linux to generate a FLAC file of a complete CD
Andy Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], michael[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I like the quality of musicbrainz data over that of cddb. So I've taken the getalbum program from the musicbrainz sample code, and tweaked the printf statements to produce the format We're looking for. It's not a perfect solution, but it works well enough that I rarely have to further edit the output. I can send you a diff if you like. I'm working on a more elegant solution, but it's far from ready for use. Any chance you could send me the whole source of the program you're using? I've had generally good results through CDDB so far to be honest, but it would be useful to be able to increase the automation of the process. No problem. First grab the source for libmusicbrainz. You should be able to find it here http://musicbrainz.org/products/client/download.html or if you're on debian, just apt-get source libmusicbrainz2 Make sure you can build and install it. Now grab this file http://fallenangel.com/mbvc.c Drop this into the examples directory in the musicbrainz source This is basically the same as the getalbum.c already in there, just with the printf statements changed. You can build it by imitating what the make file does for getalbum. This will probably be something like this.. gcc -I../lib -O2 -Wall -c -o mbvc.o mbvc.c gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o mbvc mbvc.o ../lib/.libs/libmusicbrainz.so -lstdc++ -lm Drop the resulting mbvc somewhere in /usr/local/bin or somewhere in your path. You'll probably also want to grab cdlookup from the examples directory as well. mbvc expects an album id as an argument. You can test it by grabbing an album id from the musicbrainz web site. It should spit out a series of tags that are compatible with metaflac's --import-tags-from option. Now to make this a bit more automated, use cdlookup to pull a disc id for the cd currently in the drive (or a url to add the album to musicbrainz if it's not already in the database). So now you can do something like this... export BROWSER=/bin/false; mbvc `cdlookup | perl -pe's|.*\?id=(.+)\tracks=.*|$1|'` cd.vc Now you have the cd.vc file referenced in the previously mentioned flac command. Just for kicks, I put some of this stuff up at... http://fallenangel.com/stupid.audio.tricks.txt I hope that helps. -michael -- I do not go out of my way to boldly split infinitives, nor do I actively seek prepositions to end sentences with. -James W. Zubrick pgpXMeS3b3n1R.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using linux to generate a FLAC file of a complete CD
Andy Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], michael[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I like the quality of musicbrainz data over that of cddb. So I've taken the getalbum program from the musicbrainz sample code, and tweaked the printf statements to produce the format We're looking for. It's not a perfect solution, but it works well enough that I rarely have to further edit the output. I can send you a diff if you like. I'm working on a more elegant solution, but it's far from ready for use. Any chance you could send me the whole source of the program you're using? I've had generally good results through CDDB so far to be honest, but it would be useful to be able to increase the automation of the process. No problem. First grab the source for libmusicbrainz. You should be able to find it here http://musicbrainz.org/products/client/download.html or if you're on debian, just apt-get source libmusicbrainz2 Make sure you can build and install it. Now grab this file http://fallenangel.com/mbvc.c Drop this into the examples directory in the musicbrainz source This is basically the same as the getalbum.c already in there, just with the printf statements changed. You can build it by imitating what the make file does for getalbum. This will probably be something like this.. gcc -I../lib -O2 -Wall -c -o mbvc.o mbvc.c gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o mbvc mbvc.o ../lib/.libs/libmusicbrainz.so -lstdc++ -lm Drop the resulting mbvc somewhere in /usr/local/bin or somewhere in your path. You'll probably also want to grab cdlookup from the examples directory as well. mbvc expects an album id as an argument. You can test it by grabbing an album id from the musicbrainz web site. It should spit out a series of tags that are compatible with metaflac's --import-tags-from option. Now to make this a bit more automated, use cdlookup to pull a disc id for the cd currently in the drive (or a url to add the album to musicbrainz if it's not already in the database). So now you can do something like this... export BROWSER=/bin/false; mbvc `cdlookup | perl -pe's|.*\?id=(.+)\tracks=.*|$1|'` cd.vc Now you have the cd.vc file referenced in the previously mentioned flac command. Just for kicks, I put some of this stuff up at... http://fallenangel.com/stupid.audio.tricks.txt I hope that helps. -michael -- I do not go out of my way to boldly split infinitives, nor do I actively seek prepositions to end sentences with. -James W. Zubrick pgp4ObVBatShn.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] IP Conflict Issues - please help!!
Ive been using my Squeezebox with no problems for about 12 months, however it seemed to lose its network connection (wireless) and now when I try to reconnect to the PC with the slimserver software its cant seem to find it. At the same time on the PC I get the following message; there is an IP conflict with another system on the network. At this point my internet connection dies and I have to reboot everything. I have tried loading the slimserver software to another PC on the network, with a different IP and the same thing happens. Im using XP and Slmserver 6 Beta. Any bright ideas? Thanks in advance Jonathan Sydney ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.
Jason wrote: The overwhelming majority of users do not seem to have the problems you have with the server crashing or grinding to a halt. It sounds like it might be worth your time to try Slimserver on another machine. Perhaps I did overstate the unreliability of the 5.4 code. What I said certainly *does* apply in spades to all of the 6.x versions I've tried recently. None of them were at *all* usable. 5.4.0 does usually stay up for a day or two, and as long as I don't try to add stuff to the database it usually works modulo occasional, long and unexpected pauses in responding to even trivial commands from the remote control or the web interface, and unexplained and sometimes long interruptions while playing back FLAC files over a 100 Mb/s wired connection. Renicing the tasks up a few points usually gets rid of the pauses, but only at the expense of impairing other interactive processes on the same machine whenever slimserver does crunchy things like rescanning the music database. Speaking of which, when I add something to the database, or merely change a FLAC tag, I don't even bother with the rescan button as I know it probably won't work correctly. I just blow away the database and rebuild it from scratch. This is an otherwise solidly reliable 4U rackmount 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 running Linux 2.6.11, with 2 GB of ECC memory and 2.3 TB of EIDE and SATA disk storage organized into RAID-1 and RAID-5 arrays. With that much memory, I don't bother with a swap partition, so VM thrashing is not a problem. The Antec box is loaded with big cooling fans, and internal temperatures are well controlled. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Fedora Core 4 Testers
For those testing Fedora Core 4 (Linux) - I'm working on an rpm spec file for eventual inclusion in rpm.livna.org It packages things differently than the standard SlimDevices supplied rpm, the intention is to use system installed perl modules where possible etc. and reduce what is in the CPAN directory. This of course is completely unsupported by slim devices, some of the perl modules will be different versions (I'm doing my best to make sure same or newer) and some them may have patches applied by the maintainers of the perl module etc. - so it's a situation where problems should not reported to slim devices unless you _know_ it is their problem (and you can only do that by using their install) But there are benefits to doing things the Fedora way - automated updates through yum, if there are security issues with any of the perl modules - the Fedora maintainers fixing it and pushing it to updates means that you don't still have the vulnerability in the slimserver - etc. What I presently have is at http://mpeters.us/sleek/ Info page describing what I'm doing is at http://mpeters.us/sleek/info.html That's what I'll be updating as I progress. Currently it's a little difficult to install because some of the needed perl modules in Fedora Rawhide have to be updated, and there's a couple perl modules that have to get into Fedora Extras - but the obvious goal is to make installation as simple as yum install slimserver Anyone using FC4Test series who wants to test or contribute is welcome. I'm particularly eager to hear about it on x86_64 (amd64) - if the perl modules from Fedora work, then slimserver should too. -- http://mpeters.us/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 really doesn't support 96kHz PCM on S/PDIF?
Richard Elen wrote: First, with the vast majority of users storing their music in lossy-compressed formats with sample rates seldom exceeding 44.1 kHz and often lower, this may be moot for a lot of people. Agreed. However with the advent of lossless compression format availability in the system, very likely those of us who care about audio quality will jump on them, and if we do so, we might feel that the ability to handle sample rates above 48 kHz would be an advantage. This is not obvious. But as we cannot hear above about 20 kHz, honestly, at the best of times, except perhaps when the level is above about 120 dB SPL at which point we certainly can't tell the pitch, what's the point of higher sample rates? Good question. The traditional reason for proposing higher rates was due to analogue filtering in the conversion process. With an audible band ending at, say, 20kHz, and a Nyquist limit (the highest frequency you can capture with a system, which is half the 'carrier' frequency) at fs/2, eg 22.05kHz, this meant only a small bandwidth to get signals out of the way before they started aliasing and imaging (frequencies above the Nyquist limit are intepreted as frequencies below - see http://www.apogeedigital.com/pdf/apogeeguide.pdf for more details). This meant very steep filters that were initially in the analogue domain. As a result they cause all kinds of problems such as ringing, and phase errors all the way down to below 10kHz. This is why early digital recordings sounded clangy and brittle (we also didn't know about the audibility of jitter then either). While it's true that sharp reconstruction filters were difficult to implement in analog hardware, this problem -- if it ever *was* a problem -- hasn't really been around for almost two decades now. Every modern DAC uses oversampling techniques to implement the high-performance part of the reconstruction filter in DSP, requiring only a simple and cheap analog filter to complete the job. That said, there was *never* any serious evidence that the much-discussed phase shifts of the early analog reconstruction filters were *ever* audible in any controlled listening environments. The effect was comparable to tiny position changes of a tweeter vs a midrange speaker in a cabinet. I certainly heard all those claims about brittle-sounding digital audio, but never did I see one based on solid, scientifically controlled evidence. The solution was to get the filters way out of the way by multiplying the sample rate - multiplying by integers was simplest and produced the fewest artefacts. But you don't really have to work at the higher rate; you can instead 'oversample', where you interpolate imaginary samples between the real ones, the Nyquist limit is way up there and there is tons of room for filtering - which you could also do digitally by now and avoid artefacts by and large anyway. Virtually all converters used today do many times oversampling and as a result this problem has gone away. Exactly. This is sometimes cited by the golden ears as a vindication of their claims -- why would the manufacturers do it if it wasn't necessary -- but the real reason is that it's simply cheaper and easier to oversample and filter in DSP than to do it with lot of expensive analog components. We just happen to be lucky that the cheaper way is also the better way in some sense. Of course, the vendors knew a marketing windfall when they had one, so they made lots of hay over their oversampled DACs. But they never made one whit of audible difference. They just saved the vendors a few pennies per unit in component costs. The other argument for high sample rates is that there may be stuff going on up there even if we can't hear it, and we really ought to capture everything - especially if we are archiving the material and think that inaudible stuff might just be important one day. It's also possible that inaudible frequencies might interfere with each other to produce something audible - for example if you close-mic violins and record each mic on its own track (please don't), not capturing the ultrasonics might adversely affect the timbre when you mix, which would not have been the case if you had used more distant mics and the mixing of ultrasonics had happened in the air between the musicians and the mics. That basically argues that intermodulation distortion is a good thing, the effects of which we should preserve. Seems very strange to me, especially since we already agree that the components involved in the intermodulation are not directly audible. So if we were to eliminate those ultrasonic components by low pass filtering before A/D conversion, the sole effect would be the elimination of intermodulation products in the audio range that wouldn't exist if the intermodulation distortion weren't present. Right. Makes perfect sense. Not. The fact is, however, that the human hearing capability can be satisfied
