date:20050408

Still having a real probem with this as of 6 April Nightly...

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Should have said:
- Win XP
- Java 1.5
- MP3 files

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Re: [slim] SoftSqueeze Audio Buffer Underrun

2005-04-08 Thread Richard Titmuss

Neil Cameron wrote:
Still having a real probem with this as of 6 April Nightly...
 

The Audio Buffer Underrun errors are mostly harmless, it depends on when 
they happen. Does the visualizer still work when the audio has stopped?

If the visualizer stops then this indicates a problem with the mp3 
decoder or stream from the server. Could you capture 'player' debug, if 
possible noting where the audio stopped.

If the visualizer keeps running, then it indicates a problem getting the 
audio data to the sound card. Could you capture 'javasound' debug, note 
this is very verbose.

Thanks,
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I've just upgraded to 6.1 and am trying it now.

Meanwhile, can you help with the 2b2 versus 2b3 problem?  I keep installing 
2b3, or so I think, and the opening flash Window says 2b3 - but when I go to 
look it always says 2b2.  How is that?

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Richard Titmuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Neil Cameron wrote:

Still having a real probem with this as of 6 April Nightly...

 The Audio Buffer Underrun errors are mostly harmless, it depends on when 
 they happen. Does the visualizer still work when the audio has stopped?

 If the visualizer stops then this indicates a problem with the mp3 decoder 
 or stream from the server. Could you capture 'player' debug, if possible 
 noting where the audio stopped.

 If the visualizer keeps running, then it indicates a problem getting the 
 audio data to the sound card. Could you capture 'javasound' debug, note 
 this is very verbose.

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Re: [slim] Browse Artwork - doesn't show any album details

2005-04-08 Thread FRANK ZAPPA

Glad it's not just me g.

As another note says, some details appear in a tooltip bubble - but only the album title; artist too would beuseful. More useful would be to have full details appear in text beneath the thumbnail.

And agree completely that it would be great if the sort order were adjustable. My ownpersonal preferenceis to sort whole list by artists,grouped by album.Also another note suggests having thumbnails available everywhere, whatever the browse method. I'd agree with this too.

While we're on the subject of artwork, it would be nice to see the currently playing thumbnail at the top of the player window on the RHS of the web interface too, so regardless of where you've browsed to subsequently in the LHS browse window, you still see the a/w for currently playing track.

My own use of this is to use the web interfaceONLY for controlling this thing, hence the importance of getting the web interface right. No need to use the Squeezebox's screen or remote at all. Here's why:-

1. We have a client for whom we're currently trying to spec an office-wide jukebox system, where a central player is connected to speakers around the office, and all users are able to see from their own PCs what's queued on the jukebox, and add their own selections to it. For this, the web interface to the SlimServer box is PERFECT, and will be the only interface users use. Am trialling it here in our own offices, and it looks to be just the job, apart from these web interface issues described.

It's surprising that more of these MP3-streaming devices do not have this kind of web interface for central control of a single device. You'd think the applications for it would be very wide indeed, just like the one we have. No need for streaming different things to multiple devices - just wantcontrol from multiple points of one central player. SlimServer does it.As far as I've been able to find so far, it's almost on its own in this (though please feel free to put me right). Think we've found the solution we need.

2. Personal use here: I've tried several of these music streaming boxes - NetGear MP101, Hauppauge MVP etc (though not an SB2 yet)- and the one limitation they all have (though maybe not the SB?)is the small size of the screen on which you browse and select your music. Trying them has made me realise with some surprise how UN-familiar I am with the album titles of things I've been playing for years. I'm an old fart, and have been used to digging in the cabinet for the album or CD I'm after, or often just browsing through, recognising a cover, and deciding to play that one. But whatever governs the choice, it's what it LOOKS like rather than what it's called that produces the recognition. With only text to play with for recognition, this process is very different. My feeling is that devices with bigger screens, with bigger ranges of images to browse through in order to select,will be the ones that win in the end. A few lines of text do not work the same way,
IMO.

I'm probably wrong!

Frank
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I've just begun playing with artwork and browsing by artwork so I have no recollection of whether that's how it used to work. But I do know that it _should_ work like this. The album name and date appear where there's no thumbnail shown, but when there _is_ a thumbnail they're not being displayed. There's no way to recognize many albums only by their thumbnailed image.I'd also like to see the sort order as artist/album, or maybe artist/year/album rather than just by album name. Ideally there'd be some ability to change the sort order from within the interface.Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___
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  Frank Zappa wrote:
  
  "While we're on the subject of artwork, it 
  would be nice to see the currently playing thumbnail at the top of the player 
  window on the RHS of the web interface too, so regardless of where you've 
  browsed to subsequently in the LHS browse window, you still see the a/w for 
  currently playing track."
  
  If 
  you use the fishbone skin - it does.
  
  " Trying them has made me realise with some 
  surprise how UN-familiar I am with the album titles of things I've been 
  playing for years. I'm an old fart, and have been used to digging in the 
  cabinet for the album or CD I'm after, or often just browsing through, 
  recognising a cover, and deciding to play that one."
  
  Me 
  too!
  
  " But whatever governs the choice, it's what it LOOKS 
  like rather than what it's called that produces the recognition. With only 
  text to play with for recognition, this process is very different. My feeling 
  is that devices with bigger screens, with bigger ranges of images to browse 
  through in order to select,will be the ones that win in the end. A few 
  lines of text do not work the same way, IMO."
  
  Conversly, I find it's quite nice when playing tracks on the SB to see 
  the name of the song and tie it into the music: I rarely bother looking 
  at CD cover notes, and (mostly) never know the titles of the tracks (numbers 
  maybe...). But with LPs it's an eniterlydifferent matter of 
  course!
  
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Re: [slim] New Music date ordering

2005-04-08 Thread Marc Sherman

Philip Meyer wrote:
Hmm, someone raised the enhancement before I did (#1330).  I've had a
couple like this recently where I have searched but not found
anything so raised a bug, only for it to be set as a duplicate.
It's interesting though, in that I did a search for new music
before I added the enhancement, and #1330 was not reported.  Looking
at the timestamps on the creation of #1330 and #1332, my bug was
raised a whole 2.5 hours after #1330.  Does it take new bug reports a
while to filter through the system before they are searchable, or am
I searching incorrectly?
It's possible that it takes longer for indexes to get rebuilt, so newly 
filed bugs won't show up in searches immediately.

But in general, don't worry so much about filing duplicates.  It's 
always much easier to close a dupe than it is to fix a bug that you've 
missed because it wasn't filed.

- Marc
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RE: [slim] slim.exe dies on any attempt to play

2005-04-08 Thread Stephen Glen Collier

Thanks to the suggestion to run slim.exe debugging in a cmd window from
Vidur (IIRC, from the plugin directory run slim.exe --d_source), I see
what is happening. The problem was iTunes updater (the 3rd party plugin that
lets one add iTunes ratings on the fly).  Even though I had installed the v6
compatible version of this, the subdirectory under plugins for the old
version still existed. Somehow, the old version was activated when slim
started up. As soon as there was any attempt to play, this old version
didn't work, hence slim.exe died.  I cured the problem by simply deleting
the old directory and its contents.

SteveC


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Hi - 
I have a recurrent problem that's happened intermittently in v5.x and still
persists in v6 now that I have installed a SB2 that arrived yesterday.
Slimserver starts up OK. When I watch the processes, slim.exe also starts up
and reaches about 50megs of memory to accommodate my database of songs from
when last it was working. Slimserver and the two squeezeboxes allow me to
see my record collection, browse albums, etc.  But as soon as I try to play
anything, slim.exe dies after a few seconds, hence slimserver can't do
anything, including refresh its own window-panes. A restart of slim doesn't
fix it. Nor does a reboot. Nor does a reinstallation of slim over top top of
the old fix anything. Slim uses my iTunes library, which is still working
happily.
What do you suggest I do?  If you suggest a full install, what do I have to
manually delete to guarantee everything fresh? Is there some less drastic
fix?
Please be patient as I am attempting to be an ordinary user, not a
programmer. For that reason I'm not a regular list subscriber because of the
traffic level - my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thanks for any
help.  It is frustrating having one of the new boxes and not being able to
use it!
--- 
On probably an unrelated issue I have seen these two error messages
generated by scripts (but not always): 
Line: 221 
Char: 4 
Error: Object doesn't support the property or method 
Line 228 
Char 1 
Error: parent playlist location is null or not an object 
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Re: [slim] SoftSqueeze Audio Buffer Underrun

2005-04-08 Thread Richard Titmuss

Neil Cameron wrote:
I've just upgraded to 6.1 and am trying it now.
Meanwhile, can you help with the 2b2 versus 2b3 problem?  I keep installing 
2b3, or so I think, and the opening flash Window says 2b3 - but when I go to 
look it always says 2b2.  How is that?

 

I have checked both the slimserver 6.0.1 and 6.1 releases, and they do 
include Softsqueeze 2.0b3. I wonder if it is a caching problem with java 
web start. You could try opening the Java Control Panel (in you WinXP 
Control Panel), and deleting the temporary internet files.

Richard
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Re: [slim] Re: Slightly OT: Small Amplifier recommendations

2005-04-08 Thread Patrick Dowling

Also take a look at the Griffin PowerWave
http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powerwave/techspecs.php
Pat
On Apr 8, 2005, at 3:16 AM, Stephen Glen Collier wrote:
You could try a Sonic Audio T-amp if you can get hold of one. There is 
a
discussion and a link to a review here
http://www.zerogain.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7283

SteveC
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RE: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.

2005-04-08 Thread Jason

How big is your library? 

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 Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:03 AM
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 Subject: Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment  SB for sale.

 Robin Bowes wrote:

  Can you show me where this claim is made? I'd be very surprised if 
  this is true. For a start, the wired port on the SB1 is 
 only 10MB/s (I 
  can't find a spec. sheet to confirm this, but the last 
 point here [1] says:

   - faster 100Mbps wired ethernet interface

 I do believe you're right; it's 10 Mb/s on the SB1. I checked 
 it by plugging it directly into my PowerBook and looking at 
 the interface settings, and also by plugging it into a 
 different hub that indicates link speed on the LEDs.

 But this doesn't really matter. A raw, uncompressed PCM audio 
 stream still takes up only 14% of a 10 Mb/s Ethernet port, so 
 there's no reason it should cause any kind of playback 
 interruption unless it's used on an ancient 10 Mb/s 
 non-switched hub with lots of contending traffic. I got rid 
 of all my hubs years ago. Every network port is switched and 
 supports full duplex up to 100 or 1000 Mb/s, depending on the 
 specific switch. The Linux box running SlimServer has a 1GB/s 
 connection, and nothing (server or network) is ever loaded 
 very heavily.

  [1] http://www.slimdevices.com/su_faq.html#about2-difference

  I've got a wireless SB1, and until recently, I had no problems with 
  dropouts caused by network bandwidth (I too play flac files 
 decoded on 
  the server and streamed as raw PCM).

 I have two SB1s, but both are wired. I wanted to wait until 
 802.11g was supported before buying a SB, so I got one of the 
 SB2s with wireless.

 But my playback interrupt problems were all over wired paths. 
 I would have expected problems on 802.11b, but not on an 
 all-wired path with plenty of capacity.

  I agree with the point you make about threading and making the 
  streaming part of slimserver work better, but I don't think 
 the SB or 
  slimserver is particularly at fault in causing your 
 dropouts - there 
  must be something in your environment that is causing the problem. 
  Maybe the port you've got the SB plugged into is not auto-detecting 
  the 10Base-T link? Have you checked?

 I'm quite sure all my LAN switches are working fine. The 
 playback interrupt problem is clearly due to sub optimum task 
 scheduling on the server. If I renice the slimserver and 
 related tasks up a few points, the playback interruptions 
 disappear, but at the expense of slowing down everything else 
 on the server whenever the Slimserver wants to do some 
 sustained maintenance activity like scanning the music 
 filesystem and rebuilding its database. The Slimserver code 
 should run at high priority only in its real-time-critical 
 sections, i.e., those directly involved in playing music. 
 Everything else (e.g., the UI) should run at normal priority. 
 Database reconstruction could even run at below-normal 
 priority, just to be nice to the other users.

 Another way to minimize playback interruptions is to use lots 
 of read ahead buffering inside the Slimserver playback path. 
 That covers you in case the disk is suddenly pre-empted by 
 another urgent I/O-intensive application. And if you can 
 decompress and buffer up a lot of raw PCM inside the server, 
 then you're also covered in case a high priority 
 compute-bound job comes along and pre-empts the FLAC/Ogg 
 Vorbis/AAC/etc decompresses (which are at least slightly 
 CPU-intensive). If you can manage to buffer up a lot of raw 
 PCM ready to transmit, then even if the server is busy 
 running other applications it should be able to spare the few 
 quick interrupt service calls needed to move that PCM to the 
 Ethernet transmitter and then to the Squeezebox.

 Obviously if the system running Slimserver doesn't have, on 
 average, enough disk I/O cycles and CPU cycles to supply a 
 full-rate stream to the Squeezebox, then none of this will 
 help much. But there's no reason why a fast, lightly loaded 
 machine like mine should have frequent problems keeping the 
 Squeezebox happy even when the occasional unrelated 
 load-burst comes along.

 Phil
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[slim] Ugrading SoftSqueeze

What is the correct way to upgrade SoftSqueeze?  I just went from 2.0a4 
to 2.0b3 by clicking on the install link in SlimServer 6.01.  The 
upgrade went fine, but the player showed up as a new player in the 
server, forcing me to configure it all over again.  I'm assuming that 
this isn't meant to happen!

Thanks,
Max Spicer
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Re: [slim] Ugrading SoftSqueeze

2005-04-08 Thread Thomas B. Malsbury

Max wrote:
What is the correct way to upgrade SoftSqueeze?  I just went from 
2.0a4 to 2.0b3 by clicking on the install link in SlimServer 6.01.  
The upgrade went fine, but the player showed up as a new player in the 
server, forcing me to configure it all over again.  I'm assuming that 
this isn't meant to happen!

Thanks,
Max Spicer
Yes, the reset was intended. 

One of the versions along the way from alpha to beta forced the reset. I 
believe it was related to a MAC address problem that Richard corrected, 
that is why it appeared as a new player in the Server.

Tom Malsbury
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[slim] Classifying music

Are there any helpful resources out there that would help me in the 
daunting task of classifying all my newly-ripped music?  I'm using EAC 
to rip to FLAC, so I currently have the cddb genres set for most of my 
music.  However, these tend to be distinctly variable (Alanis Morissette 
= folk, for example).  I therefore need to go through and sanitize 
everything, but in many cases I really don't have any idea what genre to 
use.  I want to be able to use genre's to tell SlimServer to play music 
at random of a certain style, but working out what to call Pink Floyd, 
Royksopp, Mark Knopfler etc is really quite difficult!

On a similar vein, what is Music Magic and Mood Logic?  I think they 
might be to do with this sort of thing, but I've a lot to learn!

Thanks,
Max
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Re: [slim] Wireless Problem

2005-04-08 Thread Mike Arrison

On Apr 05 18:36, Sean Adams wrote:
 
 Updated firmware did not fix the problem.  My access point is a Netgear
 MR814v2 that has no problems with other devices.
 
 No ideas OTOH - we will need to get one and do some tests.

RESOLVED: MR814v2 now works.  I didn't realize that a firmware upgrade
was dependent on the server version.  I had been running slimserver 6.0
and when I updated the firmware (by holding brightness), I got no
change.  But this morning I upgraded to 6.0.1 and THEN updated the
firmware, and that fixed it.

Thanks for the help.

-Mike Arrison


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Re: [slim] Ugrading SoftSqueeze

Ah, so it won't do it every time.  That's good news.
Thanks,
Max
Thomas B. Malsbury wrote:
Yes, the reset was intended.
One of the versions along the way from alpha to beta forced the reset. I 
believe it was related to a MAC address problem that Richard corrected, 
that is why it appeared as a new player in the Server.
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[slim] Rescan / Wipe Cache, where is the cache?

2005-04-08 Thread Floyd

Using Slimserver 6.0.1 (Linux) and the Rescan function is not
completely working.  It seems able to find new items
added to the music folder but it doesn't recognize
when items are removed or when ID tags have changed
in existing items.
The Wipe Cache feature mentioned in the on-line help
seems to be removed - I cannot find the Wipe Cache button.
I have tried restarting slimserver.  If the cache is stored
on disk, perhaps I could try manually wiping the cache by
removing whatever cache files/directories. Where are they
stored?
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Re: [slim] Rescan / Wipe Cache, where is the cache?

I've just found the same thing.  I renamed some of my albums (both 
folder and tags) then did a rescan.  I now have both the old and new 
names appearing in SlimServer.

Max
Floyd wrote:
Using Slimserver 6.0.1 (Linux) and the Rescan function is not
completely working.  It seems able to find new items
added to the music folder but it doesn't recognize
when items are removed or when ID tags have changed
in existing items.
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Re: [slim] SB2 geekport

2005-04-08 Thread John Gorst

Sean Adams wrote:
Geekport software is not done, but yes, you'll be able to plug a 
standard 1/8 IR blaster into the headphone port.

At the moment, we are almost done with basic blasting capability, where 
the server sends commands to the Squeezebox2. Pass-through, macros, 
triggers and other things are possible down the road.

Blasting support is planned for 6.1 - right now we are only putting in 
bug fixes.
Will this doable on SBG1?
Will xpl messages be able to get the SB to send IR commands?
Cheers

On Apr 7, 2005, at 8:37 AM, PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:
Does the headphone jack of the SB2 output the IR
codes it receives by default?  I'm trying to reduce the
clutter around my TV, and I've got a dinky link
IR receiver sitting right next to my SB.  If the
SB2 geekport can blast out an IR signal, I could
just get one of these:
http://www.smarthome.com/8171s.html
and eliminate the dinky link for use someplace
else.  The device I want to control is in a
cabinet, but not having a separate IR sensor
and using the SB2 instead would just be that
much geekier.  Plus, my wife would enjoy
having one less ugly black box cluttering
everything up.
Does the male jack of this thing even fit into
the headphone jack?  I'm guessing it does,
as the specs say it's a 1/8 jack and that's what
the SB2 headphone jack is.
Thanks,
Paul
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[slim] itunes settings suggestion

2005-04-08 Thread Steven Moore

I wonder if it would be possible to have a 'scan manually' option in 
the server settingsitunes section This could comprise of 2 radio 
buttons beside each other one for manual and the other for reload 
interval with an input field.
At present I have itunes reload interval set very high (10) in 
order to avoid the server rescanning every time I use itunes to listen 
to music. Whilst this works I think the other system will be clearer 
for new users.
I still want the benefits of itunes integration namely playlists and 
adding music via itunes (tagging etc) but not the continual rescanning.
Any thoughts?

Steven Moore
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RE: [slim] itunes settings suggestion

2005-04-08 Thread Craig, James (IT)

I am starting to share the same position as Steven, 
my iTunes rescan takes about 90 seconds during which all players stop
(no music, no menus).

What does setting the interval to 0 do - could we have this as disabling
rescans if it doesn't already do so? 

James

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I wonder if it would be possible to have a 'scan manually' option in 
the server settingsitunes section This could comprise of 2 radio 
buttons beside each other one for manual and the other for reload 
interval with an input field.
At present I have itunes reload interval set very high (10) in 
order to avoid the server rescanning every time I use itunes to listen 
to music. Whilst this works I think the other system will be clearer 
for new users.
I still want the benefits of itunes integration namely playlists and 
adding music via itunes (tagging etc) but not the continual rescanning.
Any thoughts?

Steven Moore

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Re: [slim] SQL

2005-04-08 Thread bkfake-forum

Thanks!

Would you expect a performance hit by switching to
MySQL as opposed to the built in SQLite?

Anyhow, this is awsome.. I'm looking forward to
playing with it this weekend.


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[slim] New Slimverver Software with Original Squeezebox

2005-04-08 Thread Craig Shifflett

I have a number questions regarding this:
1 - Should I run the new 6.0 Slimserver on the Squeezebox?
2 - I have tried it and pretty much lockup if I happen to hit the Alarm
under Player Settings
3 - I can not find the crossfade option.  Is crossfading a hardware feature
of Squeezebox2 or the new Slimserver 6.0 or a combination?  Site says look
in Player Settings and Web Interface but I do not see these options.
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Re: [slim] New Slimverver Software with Original Squeezebox

2005-04-08 Thread Marc Sherman

Craig Shifflett wrote:
I have a number questions regarding this:
1 - Should I run the new 6.0 Slimserver on the Squeezebox?
Opinions are mixed on this.  If you're a non-technical user, and you can 
live with the existing bugs in 5.4.1 that are already fixed in 6.0.1, 
you might want to wait a bit for things to stabilize on the version 6 
branch.

If you're technically minded, and don't mind the fast pace of change in 
the version 6 branch, upgrading and reporting bugs as you find them is 
probably appreciated.

2 - I have tried it and pretty much lockup if I happen to hit the Alarm
under Player Settings
You should file a bug with more details.
3 - I can not find the crossfade option.  Is crossfading a hardware feature
of Squeezebox2 or the new Slimserver 6.0 or a combination?  Site says look
in Player Settings and Web Interface but I do not see these options.
That's an SB2 hardware feature, so you'll only find it in the player 
settings for an SB2 client.

- Marc
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Re: [slim] SB2 Platinums???

2005-04-08 Thread David A. Chappel

Me too!  = )
-b

On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 07:12 -0700, Chris Glushko wrote:
 I don't want to bug sales anymore, but the wait is
 killing me!
 
 Can anyone from Slim provide an update as to when
 those who pre-ordered Platinum Wireless SB2s will see
 them??
 
 
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Re: [slim] SB2 geekport

2005-04-08 Thread dean blackketter

On Apr 8, 2005, at 6:54 AM, John Gorst wrote:
Sean Adams wrote:
Geekport software is not done, but yes, you'll be able to plug a 
standard 1/8 IR blaster into the headphone port.
At the moment, we are almost done with basic blasting capability, 
where the server sends commands to the Squeezebox2. Pass-through, 
macros, triggers and other things are possible down the road.
Blasting support is planned for 6.1 - right now we are only putting 
in bug fixes.
Will this doable on SBG1?
Alas no, the original Squeezebox doesn't have the necessary hardware.
Will xpl messages be able to get the SB to send IR commands?
That's one planned feature, through the server software.
-dean
On Apr 7, 2005, at 8:37 AM, PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:
Does the headphone jack of the SB2 output the IR
codes it receives by default?  I'm trying to reduce the
clutter around my TV, and I've got a dinky link
IR receiver sitting right next to my SB.  If the
SB2 geekport can blast out an IR signal, I could
just get one of these:
http://www.smarthome.com/8171s.html
and eliminate the dinky link for use someplace
else.  The device I want to control is in a
cabinet, but not having a separate IR sensor
and using the SB2 instead would just be that
much geekier.  Plus, my wife would enjoy
having one less ugly black box cluttering
everything up.
Does the male jack of this thing even fit into
the headphone jack?  I'm guessing it does,
as the specs say it's a 1/8 jack and that's what
the SB2 headphone jack is.
Thanks,
Paul
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Re: [slim] SB2 Platinums???

2005-04-08 Thread dean blackketter

We're expecting delivery of the platinum cases in the next couple days. 
 Assembly and test adds a little time.  My guess is that we'll be done 
with our backlog of Platinums next week.

On Apr 8, 2005, at 7:12 AM, Chris Glushko wrote:
I don't want to bug sales anymore, but the wait is
killing me!
Can anyone from Slim provide an update as to when
those who pre-ordered Platinum Wireless SB2s will see
them??
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Re: [slim] Classifying music

2005-04-08 Thread Steve Bernard, Jr

On Apr 8, 2005 9:24 AM, Max wrote:
 Are there any helpful resources out there that would help me in the
 daunting task of classifying all my newly-ripped music?  I'm using EAC
 to rip to FLAC, so I currently have the cddb genres set for most of my
 music.  However, these tend to be distinctly variable (Alanis Morissette
 = folk, for example).  I therefore need to go through and sanitize
 everything, but in many cases I really don't have any idea what genre to
 use.  I want to be able to use genre's to tell SlimServer to play music
 at random of a certain style, but working out what to call Pink Floyd,
 Royksopp, Mark Knopfler etc is really quite difficult!

I have an awful lot of trouble with this subject, myself, which is
basically because I only find music classification to be helpful in
the very broadest of terms, or for very specific matters.  The last
thing I want to do is have to worry about where the line is between
folk and country, or jazz and fusion, or indie pop and indie rock, or
trance and goa, etc, when I'm just trying to get all of my music
tagged and set up on the SlimServer.  I don't want to ever be in a
position of, Now where is that artist?  Are they hard rock or are
they metal?

Consequently, I currently run with 4 genres: Xmas, Classical, Spoken
Word/Comedy, and General.  This is not really a great setup, all
things considered, but the basic concept is that everything in General
I'm more or less happy to hear mixed in with or in sequence with
anything else, whereas I want the other three classifications not to
encroach on my usual listening habits unless I select them
specifically.

Now, if I wanted to look for an online resource for getting the genre
for specific acts, I'd head on over to http://www.allmusic.com/  They
have a pretty reasonable breakdown of top-level genres for Popular
Music and Classical Music (although 'Cajun' having its own top-level
all to itself is a bit puzzling), and there are countless Styles and
sub-Styles under each genre.  So Pink Floyd, for example, is in the
main top-level genre 'Rock' and with styles like Prog-Rock/Art Rock,
Psychedelic, British Psychedelia, Hard Rock, etc.  These are all
correct to varying degrees over the course of the band's career.

One option is to use SlimServer's ability to separate multiple items
in tags by adding both the top-level genre and one or more of the
styles which you think are appropriate.  So you can have several
artists that all show up under 'Jazz', but they also show up
separately under 'Bop', 'Fusion', 'Swing', or whatever.

In my case I use a plus sign for a tag separator, so (back to Pink
Floyd) I could tag the songs on 'Piper at the Gates of Dawn' as 'Rock
+ Psychedlic' and tag the songs on Atom Heart Mother as 'Rock +
Prog-Rock/Art Rock'. That way all of my Pink Floyd albums show up
under the Rock genre in Slimserver, but they also show up under their
respective places in the other genres.

I'm actually liking this line of reasoning enough that I might do
this, myself.  It'd be hell on my portable player, though, which
doesn't understand separators.

You also asked about MoodLogic and MusicMagic.  These are programs
that will scan your music library and internally make decisions about
which kinds of music go together.  So after it scans you can select a
song or artist or genre and have the program make you a custom
playlist of songs it has determined are a good stylistic match.  I
haven't used MoodLogic much, but in toying with MusicMagic, I know
there's also a feature where you can select a bunch of songs manually
and label them all as a certain 'mood', and MusicMagic can use these
connections to figure out based on what data it has what other things
it thinks belongs in that mood.  It's all pretty neat, but it's no
real solution for creating genre tags, if that's what you're after.

-Steve
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Re: [slim] SB2 Platinums???

I guess that mean that I've got at least two weeks to wait for my SB2 in 
the UK.  Don't suppose you'd consider bribes, would you?  :-)

Max
dean blackketter wrote:
We're expecting delivery of the platinum cases in the next couple days. 
 Assembly and test adds a little time.  My guess is that we'll be done 
with our backlog of Platinums next week.
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[slim] Squeezebox 2 Display Problem Question

2005-04-08 Thread Gerald B. Cox

Yes, actually the problem can be seen when the unit is powered on after being
unplugged and the initial boot sequence starts.  Has anyone seen this?

 does it disappear if you power the sb2 off and back on? if so it may
 be the same issue I saw.


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Re: [slim] SoftSqueeze Audio Buffer Underrun

Richard

I've tried to post these (long) error logs three times; the go, but don't 
turn up on the Forum.
Can you email your email address to me so I can send them to you?

-- 
Neil


Neil Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've just upgraded to 6.1 and am trying it now.

 Meanwhile, can you help with the 2b2 versus 2b3 problem?  I keep 
 installing 2b3, or so I think, and the opening flash Window says 2b3 - but 
 when I go to look it always says 2b2.  How is that?

 -- 
 Neil


 Richard Titmuss 
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 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Neil Cameron wrote:

Still having a real probem with this as of 6 April Nightly...

 The Audio Buffer Underrun errors are mostly harmless, it depends on when 
 they happen. Does the visualizer still work when the audio has stopped?

 If the visualizer stops then this indicates a problem with the mp3 
 decoder or stream from the server. Could you capture 'player' debug, if 
 possible noting where the audio stopped.

 If the visualizer keeps running, then it indicates a problem getting the 
 audio data to the sound card. Could you capture 'javasound' debug, note 
 this is very verbose.

 Thanks,
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Re: [slim] Problems with alienBBC + mplayer + playlist

2005-04-08 Thread Triode

Which version of slimserver is this on?
There is definately a problem around this area with 0.95 and 0.97 on 6.0+, but I thought the old version worked OK on 5.4 - are you 
on 6.0?
- Original Message - 
From: Bram Vermeer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Slim Devices Discussion discuss@lists.slimdevices.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:48 AM
Subject: [slim] Problems with alienBBC + mplayer + playlist


I have some problems accessing url's in alienBBC (version 0.94)
I have put some streaming stations in a playlist, like
rtsp://195.37.152.241/broadcast/multikulti
and
rtsp://stream1.rbb-online.de/broadcast/fritz-live.ra
The last url is recognized correctly by Slimserver, but url's without a suffix give a problem. Slim tries to get a playlist with 
urls like:
rtsp://195.37.152.241/broadcast/multikulti

The Slim complaint is:
cannot connect to http daemon to get playlist
at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 480.
Which is logical, because it's not a playlist url.
I tried to make some changes in custom-types.conf, to change the type from 
'playlist' into 'audio', but unsuccessfully.
Am I doing something wrong?
---
Bram Vermeer
Amsterdam
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Re: [slim] SoftSqueeze Audio Buffer Underrun

I forgot that email addresses are wierded - mine is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
Neil


Neil Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 Richard

 I've tried to post these (long) error logs three times; the go, but don't 
 turn up on the Forum.
 Can you email your email address to me so I can send them to you?

 -- 
 Neil


 Neil Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've just upgraded to 6.1 and am trying it now.

 Meanwhile, can you help with the 2b2 versus 2b3 problem?  I keep 
 installing 2b3, or so I think, and the opening flash Window says 2b3 - 
 but when I go to look it always says 2b2.  How is that?

 -- 
 Neil


 Richard Titmuss 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in 
 message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Neil Cameron wrote:

Still having a real probem with this as of 6 April Nightly...

 The Audio Buffer Underrun errors are mostly harmless, it depends on when 
 they happen. Does the visualizer still work when the audio has stopped?

 If the visualizer stops then this indicates a problem with the mp3 
 decoder or stream from the server. Could you capture 'player' debug, if 
 possible noting where the audio stopped.

 If the visualizer keeps running, then it indicates a problem getting the 
 audio data to the sound card. Could you capture 'javasound' debug, note 
 this is very verbose.

 Thanks,
 Richard 



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[slim] SS6.0.1-1, RH7.2, db do failed, readonly

2005-04-08 Thread Richard Elen

Hi... Had a look in the archives but couldn't find this one, apologies 
if it's already been discussed.

Just upgraded from 6.0.1 (which said 6.0.0 on the server page) to 
6.0.1-1, the Linux RPM on the download page 8 Apr.

I'm running RH7.2 and installed using rpm -Uvh over the previous.
On starting it using
./slimserver.pl --user slimserver
(I have to do this due to init file problems at present)
I get the now-familiar XML::parser message; but now rather later I get this:
DBD::SQLite:: db do failed: attempt to write a readonly database(1) at 
dbdimp.c line 401 at 
/var/local/slimserver/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DataModel.pm line 68, $fh 
line 21.

- and of course it no longer works.
Do I need to trash the database and if so where is it?
Or something else?
Thanks,
--Richard E
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Re: [slim] AlienBBC Problem

2005-04-08 Thread Triode

Hum - I would have expected error messages from socketwrapper for the alien 
case.
Could you do a search on your machine to ensure you only have one version of socketwrapper.exe (the one that came with 6.0) ?
- Original Message - 
From: Jeremy Baynham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:54 AM
Subject: [slim] AlienBBC Problem


OK, can hear the stream, trace is now:

2005-04-08 07:46:56.7451 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Switching to mode stop from 
playout-play
2005-04-08 07:46:56.7478 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 New play mode: stop
2005-04-08 07:46:56.7506 Stopping and clearing out old chunks for client 
db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-08 07:46:56.7670 Resetting song queue
2005-04-08 07:46:56.7689 Song queue is now 0
2005-04-08 07:46:56.7844 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Current playmode: stop
2005-04-08 07:46:56.8005 Adding song index 0 to song queue
2005-04-08 07:46:56.8023 Song queue is now 0,0
2005-04-08 07:46:56.8381 Trying to open protocol stream for 
mms://vruk.wm.llnwd.net/vruk_vr_hi
2005-04-08 07:46:56.8402 Looking for handler for protocol mms
2005-04-08 07:46:56.8420 Found handler for protocol mms
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1117 checking formats for: wma-aif-*-*
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1149 Checking to see if wma-aif-*-* is enabled
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1164enabled
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1219 checking formats for: wma-wav-*-*
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1237 Checking to see if wma-wav-*-* is enabled
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1253enabled
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1267   Found command: [wmadec] -r 44100 -b 16 -n 2 $FILE$
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1437 Matched Format: wav Type: wma Command: [wmadec] -r 
44100 -b 16 -n 2 $FILE$
2005-04-08 07:46:57.2543 Backtrace:
  frame 0: Slim::Utils::Prefs::clientGet (/PerlApp/Slim/Player/Protocols/MMS.pm 
line 43)
  frame 1: Slim::Player::Protocols::MMS::new (/PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm 
line 1844)
  frame 2: Slim::Player::Source::openRemoteStream (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm 
line 477)
  frame 3: Slim::Utils::Scan::readList (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 207)
  frame 4: Slim::Utils::Scan::addToList_run (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 
147)
  frame 5: Slim::Utils::Scan::addToList (/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 
943)
  frame 6: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/PerlApp/Slim/Web/HTTP.pm line 662)
  frame 7: Slim::Web::HTTP::processURL (/PerlApp/Slim/Web/HTTP.pm line 530)
  frame 8: Slim::Web::HTTP::processHTTP (/PerlApp/Slim/Networking/Select.pm 
line 115)
  frame 9: Slim::Networking::Select::select (slimserver.pl line 619)
  frame 10: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 40)
  frame 11: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc line 1204)
  frame 12: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0)
  frame 13: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0)
2005-04-08 07:46:57.2584 Using command for conversion: C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\wmadec.exe -r 44100 -b 16 -n 2 mms://vruk.wm.llnwd.net/vruk_vr_hi
2005-04-08 07:46:57.2838 Launching process with command: C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\socketwrapper.exe -o 4440 -c \C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\wmadec.exe\ -r 44100 -b 16 -n 2 \mms://vruk.wm.llnwd.net/vruk_vr_hi\
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9090 Backtrace:

  frame 0: Slim::Player::Source::playmode (/PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 
730)
  frame 1: Slim::Player::Source::jumpto (/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 
1684)
  frame 2: Slim::Control::Command::load_done (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 
459)
  frame 3: Slim::Utils::Scan::addToList_done (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 
362)
  frame 4: Slim::Utils::Scan::addToList_run (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scheduler.pm 
line 95)
  frame 5: Slim::Utils::Scheduler::run_tasks (slimserver.pl line 603)
  frame 6: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 40)
  frame 7: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc line 1204)
  frame 8: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0)
  frame 9: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0)
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9119 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Switching to mode stop from stop
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9137  Already in playmode stop : ignoring mode change
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9155 Adding song index 0 to song queue
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9173 Clearing out song queue first
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9192 Song queue is now 0
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9213 Backtrace:
  frame 0: Slim::Player::Source::playmode (/PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 
760)
  frame 1: Slim::Player::Source::jumpto (/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 
1684)
  frame 2: Slim::Control::Command::load_done (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 
459)
  frame 3: Slim::Utils::Scan::addToList_done (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 
362)
  frame 4: Slim::Utils::Scan::addToList_run (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scheduler.pm 
line 95)
  frame 5: Slim::Utils::Scheduler::run_tasks (slimserver.pl line 603)
  frame 6: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 40)
  frame 7: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc line 1204)
  frame 8: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0)
  frame 9: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0)
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9243 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Switching to mode play

Re: [slim] SoftSqueeze Audio Buffer Underrun

Aaah.  Very clever - they are also autowierded in postings.
So how do I get you these logs?

-- 
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Neil Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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I forgot that email addresses are wierded - mine is 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Richard

 I've tried to post these (long) error logs three times; the go, but don't 
 turn up on the Forum.
 Can you email your email address to me so I can send them to you?

 -- 
 Neil


 Neil Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've just upgraded to 6.1 and am trying it now.

 Meanwhile, can you help with the 2b2 versus 2b3 problem?  I keep 
 installing 2b3, or so I think, and the opening flash Window says 2b3 - 
 but when I go to look it always says 2b2.  How is that?

 -- 
 Neil


 Richard Titmuss 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in 
 message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Neil Cameron wrote:

Still having a real probem with this as of 6 April Nightly...

 The Audio Buffer Underrun errors are mostly harmless, it depends on 
 when they happen. Does the visualizer still work when the audio has 
 stopped?

 If the visualizer stops then this indicates a problem with the mp3 
 decoder or stream from the server. Could you capture 'player' debug, if 
 possible noting where the audio stopped.

 If the visualizer keeps running, then it indicates a problem getting 
 the audio data to the sound card. Could you capture 'javasound' debug, 
 note this is very verbose.

 Thanks,
 Richard 



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Re: [slim] SoftSqueeze Audio Buffer Underrun

That didn't work.
It is more complicated by the fact that SlimServer and the Sourecforge 
download appear to install themselves in totally different directories.  The 
latter in c:\program files\softsqueeze, and the latter in c:\documents and 
settings\application data\Sun\java\etc etc etc.
Although the latter has since disappeared!

-- 
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I've just upgraded to 6.1 and am trying it now.

Meanwhile, can you help with the 2b2 versus 2b3 problem?  I keep 
installing 2b3, or so I think, and the opening flash Window says 2b3 - but 
when I go to look it always says 2b2.  How is that?


 I have checked both the slimserver 6.0.1 and 6.1 releases, and they do 
 include Softsqueeze 2.0b3. I wonder if it is a caching problem with java 
 web start. You could try opening the Java Control Panel (in you WinXP 
 Control Panel), and deleting the temporary internet files.

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Re: [slim] SS6.0.1-1, RH7.2, db do failed, readonly

2005-04-08 Thread Richard Elen

The server started up fine when run as root.
Permissions issue?
--Richard E
Richard Elen wrote:
DBD::SQLite:: db do failed: attempt to write a readonly database(1) at 
dbdimp.c line 401 at 
/var/local/slimserver/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DataModel.pm line 68, $fh 
line 21.
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[slim] AlienBBC Problem

2005-04-08 Thread Jeremy Baynham

Yes there is only one socketwrapper.exe, and I have tried manually 
replacing it with the one in the 6.0.1 zip download, but to no avail...
- Original Message -
Hum - I would have expected error messages from socketwrapper for the 
alien case. Could you do a search on your machine to ensure you only 
have one version of socketwrapper.exe (the one that came with 6.0) ?

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RE: [slim] SS6.0.1-1, RH7.2, db do failed, readonly

I'm NOT a Linux expert (!) but I had a similar problem when I first tried on
FC3.  I think you've probably installed as root and then started slimserver
as root when the slimserver daemon script didn't work as part of the
install.  As a result slimserver is using /root/ as the home directory and
has put slimserversql.db and slimserver.db in /root/, and various other
stuff under /root/usr/local/slimserver...

You probably need to kill these and their locations in a config file
somewhere (sorry not sure where), and then restart slimserver as a normal
user (preferably slimserver:slimserver), whereupon it will create them
somewhere more appropriate.

HTH, Patrick

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The server started up fine when run as root.
Permissions issue?
--Richard E

Richard Elen wrote:
 DBD::SQLite:: db do failed: attempt to write a readonly database(1) at
 dbdimp.c line 401 at
 /var/local/slimserver/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DataModel.pm line 68, $fh
 line 21.

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[slim] New trunk - 6.1 db choice?

2005-04-08 Thread PAUL WILLIAMSON

How have the last two nightlies of 6.1 been for 
people?  I'm just wondering, because my counts 
(artists, genres, albums, etc.) have gotten better 
than even on the stable from 6.0.1 release a few 
days ago.  I'm amazed at how fast the scanning 
has gotten in the last couple weeks, and with the 
addition of what Dan has sent to incorporate 
changes in my slimserver.conf file to add support 
for MySQL, I'm quite happy.

Now, on to my other question...

When installing the noarch RPM, is there a way to 
opt for no SQLlite, or will I have to manually go 
disable it?  Maybe there could be an option 
to not start SQLlite if it's already disabled?
I just started fooling with the MySQL integration, 
but I'm stoked about being able to move to 
just one database.  Not having SQLlite start 
would be great.

Is this a candidate for http://bugs.slimdevices.com ?

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: [slim] SS 6.0 and RSS plugin

2005-04-08 Thread Dave Cohen

I believe at last I have this fixed.  Bug 1339 is tracking the issue:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1339

For details as to the cause, and for a version of the Plugin which
solves the problem, see the bug.

Please let me know if this does not in fact solve the problem.

Thanks Roy for the help tracking this down.

-Dave


On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 04:59:47PM -0500, Roy Owen wrote:
 In the course of debugging a different problem I ran acros the
 following in the log file
 
 2005-04-01 16:45:42.5880 current rss feed not set\n2005-04-01
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2005-04-08 Thread dsully


To subscribe to this forum as a mail list, instead of reading it on the
web, go to: http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

Email to the list will be gatewayed to these forums, and vice-versa.


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It's been obvious for some time that a better forums / email interface has
been needed. We've been working hard the past few days to bring up a solution
that works for everyone.
Here's the breakdown:
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The discuss list is now split up into the following forums, and their
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so if you see a delay, that's where it's coming from.
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2005-04-08 Thread ron thigpen

Dan Sully wrote:
We'll be tweaking the forums as needed. Please let us know if you have 
any questions.
Looks like there is a bug in the vBulletin setup.  Registration images 
are not being generated, but are required, effectively blocking 
registration.

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: imagecreatetruecolor() in 
/www/forums.slimdevices.com/image.php on line 102

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2005-04-08 Thread Marc Sherman

Dan Sully wrote:
It's been obvious for some time that a better forums / email interface has
been needed. We've been working hard the past few days to bring up a 
solution
that works for everyone.

Here's the breakdown:
[snip]
* Linux / Unix Issues - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I guess it's too late to suggest splitting off Windows and Mac-specific 
lists as well?

- Marc
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* ron thigpen shaped the electrons to say...
Looks like there is a bug in the vBulletin setup.  Registration images 
are not being generated, but are required, effectively blocking 
registration.

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: imagecreatetruecolor() in 
/www/forums.slimdevices.com/image.php on line 102
Removed for now. It was working last night. I guess the gremlins got to it.
-D
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* Marc Sherman shaped the electrons to say...
I guess it's too late to suggest splitting off Windows and Mac-specific lists as well?
That was brought up in our discussion, and may happen in the future.
We didn't want to fragment the lists too much from the start.
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2005-04-08 Thread JJ

Awesome  I'll see you all in HTTP land.
Unsubscribing...

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Sully [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Slim Devices Discuss discuss@lists.slimdevices.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:22 PM
Subject: [slim] Announce: New Forums - and email list gateway - Please 
Read!

It's been obvious for some time that a better forums / email interface 
has
been needed. We've been working hard the past few days to bring up a 
solution
that works for everyone.

Here's the breakdown:
New Web Forums are up at http://forums.slimdevices.com/ - using 
vBulletin.

The discuss list is now split up into the following forums, and their
corresponding mail lists:
==
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 Mail list subscription: 
http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss

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 Mail list subscription: 
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minutes -
so if you see a delay, that's where it's coming from.

Mail sent from the mail lists will appear on the forums as Your Name 
with
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is
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I can't subscribe as your registration image generator is broken:
Fatal error: Call to undefined function: imagecreatetruecolor() in 
/www/forums.slimdevices.com/image.php on line 102

Max
Dan Sully wrote:
It's been obvious for some time that a better forums / email interface has
been needed. We've been working hard the past few days to bring up a 
solution
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* Max shaped the electrons to say...
I can't subscribe as your registration image generator is broken:
Fatal error: Call to undefined function: imagecreatetruecolor() in 
/www/forums.slimdevices.com/image.php on line 102
This has been removed for now until I can fix it.
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2005-04-08 Thread Philip Meyer

I guess it's too late to suggest splitting off Windows and Mac-specific 
lists as well?

That would possibly be nice - I have no interest in Mac-specific content.

However, how does a user know if something is Mac-specific?  Is there enough 
Mac traffic to require its own list (forum)?

I'd hate it if people posted things to a Mac-specific list if they weren't 
actually Mac specific problems.  For that reason, I'm not sure it's all that 
wise to have a specific unix list.  Perhaps it would be better to have a 
specific windows list, as that would be the biggest group of users.

Phil

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2005-04-08 Thread ron thigpen

Dan Sully wrote:
New Web Forums are up at http://forums.slimdevices.com/ - using vBulletin.
The discuss list is now split up into the following forums, and their
corresponding mail lists:
Dan, would it make sense to set up a Test forum?
Might be nice to have a place to test out the gateway/username 
integration without spilling noise into the general forums.

Thanks,
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* ron thigpen shaped the electrons to say...
Dan, would it make sense to set up a Test forum?
Might be nice to have a place to test out the gateway/username 
integration without spilling noise into the general forums.
Yes - we can do that. There's been a test email list since at least two 
years ago. :)
-D
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2005-04-08 Thread ron thigpen

Dan Sully wrote:
Yes - we can do that. There's been a test email list since at least two 
years ago. :)
Cool, thanks.
Oh, one more question:
Will the gmane NNTP integration continue?
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2005-04-08 Thread Philip Meyer

We'll be tweaking the forums as needed. Please let us know if you have any 
questions.
What happened to the other forum site that was being developed?  At least that 
had some resemblence of a threaded approach.

It looks like some attempt has been made to split old mailing list messages 
into message topics in the forum.  I can see lots of root messages that have 
the same title, but aren't grouped.  And messages that are in the same grouping 
aren't displayed threaded.

Will this improve as new messages are posted - ie. is just an artifact of the 
transit period?  I'd hate it if email messages aren't threaded properly because 
people post new messages in the forum, rather than replies to specific posts.

All in all, most people should be satisfied though.

Gee, what a day.  First I hear that EZTree was closed, then Slim Devices had 
moved to forums, then find that EZTree has appeared to re-open as DIME.  My day 
seems to be recovering ;)

Phil

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* ron thigpen shaped the electrons to say...
Oh, one more question:
Will the gmane NNTP integration continue?
Yes - the developers  discuss lists are still being sent to gmane.
Someone will need to set up the other lists - not sure if we did that
initially, or someone from gmane did.
-D
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Re: [slim] Announce: New Forums - and email list gateway - Please Read!

2005-04-08 Thread Nick Silberstein

Dan Sully wrote:
It's been obvious for some time that a better forums / email interface has
been needed. We've been working hard the past few days to bring up a 
solution
that works for everyone.
I find myself sticking to the discuss list to find out about if there 
are cool new features available for my Squeezebox (i.e., Rss Plugin, 
AlienBBC, etc), while I'm really not interested in the majority of posts 
(with the audiophile back and forth being my least favorite -- any email 
containing the string 'jitter' is drawn and quartered, flogged, then 
automatically shot back at the sender in a burst of flesh-colored confetti).

I'm probably missing this somewhere, but is there a moderated / 
low-traffic (pick one or both ;) list that will announce new and updated 
plugins, new slimserver releases, press releases (ie new product), and 
the like?  I do see the 3rd Party Plugins list/forum, however, I am 
fairly sure that will mainly consist of support queries, and would not 
contain any info on new slimserver or product releases, etc.

Could this perhaps be integrated into the Slimserver product -- Update 
plugin - Check for new plugins, Slimserver updates, etc.?

Best regards,
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* Philip Meyer shaped the electrons to say...
What happened to the other forum site that was being developed?  At least
that had some resemblence of a threaded approach.
The Gossamer Forum software was not as flexible as we would have liked it to
be without a decent amount of coding going into it.
You can change your display mode to Threaded or Hybrid views in the user 
preferences.
It looks like some attempt has been made to split old mailing list messages
into message topics in the forum.  I can see lots of root messages that
have the same title, but aren't grouped.  And messages that are in the same
grouping aren't displayed threaded.
Will this improve as new messages are posted - ie. is just an artifact of
the transit period?  I'd hate it if email messages aren't threaded properly
because people post new messages in the forum, rather than replies to
specific posts.
Yes - I made an attempt at moving some of the messages into their 
appropriate
new lists/forums. It is an artifact of the transit period.
The mail gateway attempts to find a References: header first, and then goes
by Subject: for the threading integration.
Gee, what a day.  First I hear that EZTree was closed, then Slim Devices
had moved to forums, then find that EZTree has appeared to re-open as DIME.
My day seems to be recovering ;)
Not moved - just added. :)
-D
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* Nick Silberstein shaped the electrons to say...
I'm probably missing this somewhere, but is there a moderated / 
low-traffic (pick one or both ;) list that will announce new and updated 
plugins, new slimserver releases, press releases (ie new product), and 
the like?  I do see the 3rd Party Plugins list/forum, however, I am 
fairly sure that will mainly consist of support queries, and would not 
contain any info on new slimserver or product releases, etc.
There isn't currently - but that's a very good idea. I'll toss it around 
the office.
Could this perhaps be integrated into the Slimserver product -- Update 
plugin - Check for new plugins, Slimserver updates, etc.?
Right now the plugins are scattered about various home pages of the people
developing them. At some point in the future (near?), we'd like to have a
centralized database, along the lines of Winamp Plugins.
Once that happens - the feature you suggest will be more feasible.
-D
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Re: [slim] SS6.0.1-1, RH7.2, db do failed, readonly

2005-04-08 Thread Richard Elen

Hmmm... I read a discussion about that earlier, and I've never run 
Version 6 as root. In this case I installed the new version over the old 
one using the Upgrade option which should uninstall the old version 
first. My understanding is that the install script should create the 
user slimserver and give it ownership of the relevant bits. I took care 
not to run the new version as root - I used:
./slimserver --user slimserver
to avoid that; so that when it was run 'first time' it wouldn't create 
files and permissions that were awkward. This is the same as the 
procedure I used upgrading from 5.4.1 to 6.0.0.

My suspicion is that the ownership of something has changed and I need 
to delete some files and let the app recreate them, but which and where 
I know not...

Thanks for your helpful comments, though, because if I hadn't run it as 
root before, I certainly have now! I just need to know what and where 
are the files to delete etc!

--Richard E
Patrick Dixon wrote:
I'm NOT a Linux expert (!) but I had a similar problem when I first tried on
FC3.  I think you've probably installed as root and then started slimserver
as root when the slimserver daemon script didn't work as part of the
install.  As a result slimserver is using /root/ as the home directory and
has put slimserversql.db and slimserver.db in /root/, and various other
stuff under /root/usr/local/slimserver...
You probably need to kill these and their locations in a config file
somewhere (sorry not sure where), and then restart slimserver as a normal
user (preferably slimserver:slimserver), whereupon it will create them
somewhere more appropriate.
HTH, Patrick
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2005-04-08 Thread John Gorst

Dan Sully wrote:
Will these be available on gmane?
cheers
It's been obvious for some time that a better forums / email interface has
been needed. We've been working hard the past few days to bring up a 
solution
that works for everyone.

Here's the breakdown:
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discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

 Mail list subscription: 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2005-04-08 Thread JohnnyLightOn


Thank god - I can participate again!

See ya all on the forums (or the list, as the case may be).  :)


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Re: [slim] New to 6.x: Scan Time?

Quoting XC90 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Hello,
 My OS X 10.3 boot drive finally crashed, so I bought a new drive and
 installed OS X 10.3.8 onto it. Having been running 5.4.x for over a
 year, I decided now was the time to upgrade tp 6.0.1.

 The problem I'm having with 6.0.1 is that it's been 3 hours since it's
 been trying to scan 32,000 tracks. Is this normal? I used to be able to
 see progress at the Home menu on 5.4 by hitting reload and reading the
 text at the top; but with 6.0.1 there is no text on the Home menu top
 saying X number of tracks on X albums by X artists. So, there's
 nothing to update. The only thing I see when clicking on Browse
 Artists (for example) os:

 Note: SlimServer is still scanning your music library, so some items
 may not appear in this area yet.

 But, c'mon... 3 hours worth? What's the deal? Is this thing even really
 still scanning anyway (without that reload text I can't tell).

initial scan needs to fill out the database which takes more time than 5.4.  32k
is a lot, so I really couln't say how long.  3 hours does seem a bit long, but
there are a lot of factors to consider.  I'm also not sure how you saw an
updated count on 5.4.x since that message you see now was also there in 5.4.x.

if you want to see an updated count, use the player and go into
settings-information-library information-tracks

-kdf
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[slim] Re: Rescan / Wipe Cache, where is the cache?

2005-04-08 Thread JJZolx


dsully Wrote: 
 SlimServer (currently) takes a lazy approach to purging removed files -
 if you browse to that item, all the way down to the track level, SS
 will put them on the remove list.
 
 We're planning on making this a more active task in the future, but
 need to balance it with low memory and cpu usage
So is the Wipe Cache operation just as lazy, or is that more
active?  There seems to be a large amount of confusion here,
especially with all the scanning bugs that 6.0 introduced.

Like the OP, I'm curious about what/where this cache is - Is this
just the album database information, or is there actually a seperate
disk-based cache used to display info in the interface?  If separate,
is that cache cleared when the server is rebooted, or is it persistant?
When we perform a Rescan are we clearing old data from the database
or not?


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So is the Wipe Cache operation just as lazy, or is that more
active?  There seems to be a large amount of confusion here,
especially with all the scanning bugs that 6.0 introduced.
The wipe cache is active. There are bugs with it right now - but should be
solved by simply restarting your server.
Like the OP, I'm curious about what/where this cache is - Is this
just the album database information, or is there actually a seperate
disk-based cache used to display info in the interface?  If separate,
is that cache cleared when the server is rebooted, or is it persistant?
Cache is a misnomer, left over from the 5.4 series. It should really be
called Wipe Database.
When we perform a Rescan are we clearing old data from the database or not?
A rescan doesn't clear any data - just picks up new data. Old data is lazily
removed as stated before. 6.1 will probably do active deletion.
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2005-04-08 Thread Jason

Ditto! 

 -Original Message-
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 Awesome  I'll see you all in HTTP land.

 Unsubscribing...

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 - Please Read!

  It's been obvious for some time that a better forums / 
 email interface 
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[slim] Re: SqueezeNetwork dumb question

2005-04-08 Thread daveblazer


do we know when it will


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[slim] Re: New to 6.x: Scan Time?

2005-04-08 Thread XC90


kdf Wrote: 
 
 initial scan needs to fill out the database which takes more time than
 5.4.  32k
 is a lot, so I really couln't say how long.  3 hours does seem a bit
 long, but
 there are a lot of factors to consider.  I'm also not sure how you saw
 an
 updated count on 5.4.x since that message you see now was also there in
 5.4.x.
 
 if you want to see an updated count, use the player and go into
 settings-information-library information-tracks
 
 -kdf


Hi there,
Thanks for working this through with me. Additional info:

a) Perhaps it was 5.1, but there was no such message on the Home page
that says what 6.0.1 is saying know. Why do I say this? Because there is
no message on the Home page of 6.0.1... nothing... nada. Just a big
blanks, light gray bar at the top. The only time it says the above
message is when I click into Browse Artists, Browse Albums, etc.
Than and only then, on that certain page, does it give the message.

b) Is there a way to see the track info on the web server part? I do
not implement the Settings on the player and it is in another room
altogether from where I'm working.

Thank you,
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Re: [slim] New trunk - 6.1 db choice?

2005-04-08 Thread Michael Herger

Paul
[..]
When installing the noarch RPM, is there a way to
opt for no SQLlite, or will I have to manually go
disable it?  Maybe there could be an option
to not start SQLlite if it's already disabled?
I just started fooling with the MySQL integration,
but I'm stoked about being able to move to
just one database.  Not having SQLlite start
would be great.
AFAIK you won't have to do anything. Once you've changed the necessary  
three lines in .slimserver.prefs you're fine. That file is normally not  
touched during updates. Your MySQL parameters should stay there.

Not tested, though...
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Re: [slim] Re: New to 6.x: Scan Time?

Quoting XC90 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 kdf Wrote:
 
  initial scan needs to fill out the database which takes more time than
  5.4.  32k
  is a lot, so I really couln't say how long.  3 hours does seem a bit
  long, but
  there are a lot of factors to consider.  I'm also not sure how you saw
  an
  updated count on 5.4.x since that message you see now was also there in
  5.4.x.
 
  if you want to see an updated count, use the player and go into
  settings-information-library information-tracks
 
  -kdf


 Hi there,
 Thanks for working this through with me. Additional info:

 a) Perhaps it was 5.1, but there was no such message on the Home page
 that says what 6.0.1 is saying know. Why do I say this? Because there is
 no message on the Home page of 6.0.1... nothing... nada. Just a big
 blanks, light gray bar at the top. The only time it says the above
 message is when I click into Browse Artists, Browse Albums, etc.
 Than and only then, on that certain page, does it give the message.

That message in the grey bar is suposed to be there while scanning is taking
place. Are you using iTunes?  how about checking teh debugging with d_info,
then open http://serverIP:9000/log.txt


 b) Is there a way to see the track info on the web server part? I do
 not implement the Settings on the player and it is in another room
 altogether from where I'm working.

only by using the log, mentioned above.

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[slim] Re: New to 6.x: Scan Time?

2005-04-08 Thread XC90


One last note... maybe it matters, maybe not.

When I first installed SlimServer 6.0.1 it started scanning when I
started the server. About 5 minutes after that, I shut down the machine
to take it back to my server room. It was at that point that I started
the server a second time and have had, what is going on, 4 hours of
scanning (mind you, 5.4 or 5.1 [I forget which I had] performed the
exact same feat with the exact same library in 20-30 min's).

Might the database have gotten corrupted that first time when it shut
down if, as you mention, it tries to fill out the database that first
run? Is there a way to wipe the database (which file do I delete?) and
start it fresh?

Thanks again,
XC

* Also, I'm using a first-model SLIMP3 with Firmware 2.2.


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RE: [slim] SS6.0.1-1, RH7.2, db do failed, readonly

Sorry Richard, but that's about the extent of my knowledge. :-(

I can only suggest that you do a search for slimserversql.db and
slimserver.db and the ../usr/local/slimserver.. stuff to see where it's put
them and go from there.

It sounds like you did all the right things (unlike me), so I'm not sure
quite where it's gone wrong for you.

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Subject: Re: [slim] SS6.0.1-1, RH7.2, db do failed, readonly


Hmmm... I read a discussion about that earlier, and I've never run
Version 6 as root. In this case I installed the new version over the old
one using the Upgrade option which should uninstall the old version
first. My understanding is that the install script should create the
user slimserver and give it ownership of the relevant bits. I took care
not to run the new version as root - I used:
./slimserver --user slimserver
to avoid that; so that when it was run 'first time' it wouldn't create
files and permissions that were awkward. This is the same as the
procedure I used upgrading from 5.4.1 to 6.0.0.

My suspicion is that the ownership of something has changed and I need
to delete some files and let the app recreate them, but which and where
I know not...

Thanks for your helpful comments, though, because if I hadn't run it as
root before, I certainly have now! I just need to know what and where
are the files to delete etc!

--Richard E

Patrick Dixon wrote:
 I'm NOT a Linux expert (!) but I had a similar problem when I first tried
on
 FC3.  I think you've probably installed as root and then started
slimserver
 as root when the slimserver daemon script didn't work as part of the
 install.  As a result slimserver is using /root/ as the home directory and
 has put slimserversql.db and slimserver.db in /root/, and various other
 stuff under /root/usr/local/slimserver...

 You probably need to kill these and their locations in a config file
 somewhere (sorry not sure where), and then restart slimserver as a normal
 user (preferably slimserver:slimserver), whereupon it will create them
 somewhere more appropriate.

 HTH, Patrick

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RE: [slim] Announce: New Forums - and email list gateway - PleaseRead!

I can't quite believe you guys.  Just how many of there are you and how many
minutes do you sleep each day?

I'll head for the 'new' forum in the morning when my head's a bit clearer of
the alcohol fumes.

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PleaseRead!


Ditto!

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 Awesome  I'll see you all in HTTP land.

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[slim] Re: New to 6.x: Scan Time?

2005-04-08 Thread XC90


OMG, OMG.

Well, it just stopped indexing at over 4 hours, and... the interface
could not be any slower. I like to navigate browsing by the file
system's Music Folder and this is just the slowest thing I could ever
imagine.

Going back and forth betwen a folder that has 582 Artists takes at
least 15-20 seconds. My olde SlimServer (whether it was 5.4 or 5.1)
used to take about 2. I cannot believe the slow down with this 6.0.1.
Has anyone else noticed this after upgrading? I'm talking about
browding by the file system here.

Looks like I'd better do a search for uninstalling 6.0.1 and giving 5.4
a try.
XC


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RE: [slim] base, treble is stuck

True also for fishbone on FC3 6.01 - (not that it really matters to me)

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Subject: [slim] base, treble is stuck



runing ss 6.0.1 on mandrake and bass and treble is stuck cant change it
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[slim] Re: New to 6.x: Scan Time?

* XC90 shaped the electrons to say...
Well, it just stopped indexing at over 4 hours, and... the interface
could not be any slower. I like to navigate browsing by the file
system's Music Folder and this is just the slowest thing I could ever imagine.
Going back and forth betwen a folder that has 582 Artists takes at
least 15-20 seconds. My olde SlimServer (whether it was 5.4 or 5.1)
used to take about 2. I cannot believe the slow down with this 6.0.1.
Has anyone else noticed this after upgrading? I'm talking about
browding by the file system here.
Browsing by Music Folder is a somewhat intensive process. Do you have Sort
by Filename turned on or off in the Settings page?
Some more information is needed too - How many directories are at your top 
level?
What type of machine is this? CPU? Memory?
What is the speed of Browse Artist, etc compared to Browse Music Folder?
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RE: [slim] base, treble is stuck

Quoting Patrick Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 True also for fishbone on FC3 6.01 - (not that it really matters to me)

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 runing ss 6.0.1 on mandrake and bass and treble is stuck cant change it
 any thoughts


bass and treble are not yet supported for SB2 or Softsqueeze 2.
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1305
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[slim] AlienBBC 0.97 Observations.......(1 possible bug)

2005-04-08 Thread Patrick Delamere

Hi,

Just finished installing Slimserver 6.0.1and AlienBBC 0.97
(SuSE Linux 9.2). Having installed AlienBBC 0.97, some things appear to
have stopped working.

Initially, I couldnt get
my playlists in my AlienStream folder to play, as all I was getting was AlienBBC: Attempt to play non URL:
/var/slimserver/playlists/AlienStream/wdr5-wm32.asx. Playing
the supplied BBC streams was not a problem. To solve this, I changed
some code in the AlienBBC Plugin.pm file.

By adding the ! into the If statement below, I was able to force
AlienBBC to recognise my playlists in the AlienStream playlist folder as being
remote streams and play them.

After changing the line below, the
supplied BBC Streams did stop working, so it wasnt 100%, but at least my
own playlists work now, which is what I mostly use AlienBBC for anyway.
Would be nice to have both working though :-)

if (!Slim::Music::Info::isRemoteURL($stream))

{

$::d_plugins msg(AlienBBC - Playing: $name ($stream)\n);

Slim::Control::Command::execute($client, ['playlist', 'play', $stream, $name]);

}

else

{

$::d_plugins msg(AlienBBC: Attempt to play non URL:
$stream\n);

}

I was no longer able to play my
.smil files despite making the above change. The only way to get
these to work was to remove all the content inside, except the URL itself,
and then change the file extension to either .rm or .ram. See my log
output below:

2005-04-08 23:13:42.9688 unk file type for
/var/slimserver/playlists/AlienStream/WDR5.smil (before)

2005-04-08 23:13:42.9297 rtsppl file type for
/var/slimserver/playlists/AlienStream/WDR5.ram (after)

I
assume that unk stands for unknown file type.

AlienBBC is no longer as
forgiving as before with my badly formed ASX files! ;-)

Before AlienBBC 0.97, I just used to
put the stream URL into a file and just call it radio
station.asx. To get these working, I have had to change my files to look
as follows:

asx version=3.0

titleCadena
Ser/title

entry

ref
href=""
/

/entry

/asx

Before, all that was in the file was
mms://a874.l784138873.c7841.e.lm.akamaistream.net/D/874/7841/v0001/reflector:38873.

Clearly I have broken something by making the code change
above, but for me, it pretty much does everything I want it to, so its
no problem for me, although a proper fix would be nice. :-)

Are the problems described just with my system, or is this a
potential bug in AlienBBC 0.97? If there is a way of getting the above
working without my code change, please let me know!

Thanks,

Patrick

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[slim] Re: SQL

2005-04-08 Thread BKDotCom


dsully Wrote: 
 
 On the new Wiki - 
 
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?MySQL
 
 should be enough to get you going.
 should be, yes... but:
what privs does my slim user need?
Is MySQL 3.23.58  sufficient?

when I start up slimserver it removes
-  dbusername
-  dbpassword
-  dbsource
from the prefs and loads up the prexisting db


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[slim] Re: Rescan / Wipe Cache, where is the cache?

2005-04-08 Thread JJZolx


dsully Wrote: 
 A rescan doesn't clear any data - just picks up new data. Old data is
 lazily removed as stated before. 6.1 will probably do active deletion.
Here's an idea for the interface then.  I think it would probably be a
good idea to keep the ability to do a fast rescan for those who are
just adding new albums and only want the new data picked up.

But consolidate the operations on the same page and explain it a little
better.  Get rid of the Wipe Cache on the Performance page and add a
checkbox above the current Rescan button.  Label it something like
Perform a complete rescan from scratch.  Add more informative text
explaining that when this option is selected the operation can be much
slower, but that it should be used if any tagging information on
existing tracks has been changed since the last scan.


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Re: [slim] AlienBBC 0.97 Observations.......(1 possible bug)

2005-04-08 Thread Triode




Patrick,

Alien 0.97 is intendended to make mms / asx streams 
play as they would for slimserver on windows. [essentially just providesan 
alternative to wmadec]

It uses the slimserver parser for asx parsing 
(rather than mplayer). If there are limitations to which playlists you can 
play please post them and we can see what changes to the slim asx parser are 
required - this will be generic to windows linux etc

Given the above - could you try saving your 
playlist as a normal slim playlist rather than an AlienStream one and play it as 
if it is a local list.

- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Patrick Delamere 
  To: 'Slim Devices Discussion' 
  
  Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:58 
  PM
  Subject: [slim] AlienBBC 0.97 
  Observations...(1 possible bug)
  
  
  Hi,
  
  Just finished installing 
  Slimserver 6.0.1and AlienBBC 0.97 (SuSE Linux 9.2). Having installed 
  AlienBBC 0.97, some things appear to have stopped 
  working.
  
  
Initially, I 
couldnt get my playlists in my AlienStream folder to play, as all I was 
getting was AlienBBC: Attempt to play 
non URL: /var/slimserver/playlists/AlienStream/wdr5-wm32.asx. 
Playing the supplied BBC streams was not a problem. To solve 
this, I changed some code in the AlienBBC "Plugin.pm" 
file. 
  
  By adding the ! into the If statement below, I was 
  able to force AlienBBC to recognise my playlists in the AlienStream playlist 
  folder as being remote streams and play them.
  
  After changing the line below, the 
  supplied BBC Streams did stop working, so it wasnt 100%, but at least my own 
  playlists work now, which is what I mostly use AlienBBC for anyway. 
  Would be nice to have both working though 
  :-)
  
   
  if (!Slim::Music::Info::isRemoteURL($stream))
   
  {
   
  $::d_plugins  msg("AlienBBC - Playing: $name 
  ($stream)\n");
   
  Slim::Control::Command::execute($client, ['playlist', 'play', $stream, 
  $name]);
   
  }
   
  else
   
  {
   
  $::d_plugins  msg("AlienBBC: Attempt to play non URL: 
  $stream\n");
   
  }
  
  
I was no longer 
able to play my .smil files despite making the above change. The only 
way to get these to work was to remove all the content inside, except the 
URL itself, and then change the file extension to either .rm or .ram. 
See my log output below: 
  
  2005-04-08 23:13:42.9688 unk file type for 
  /var/slimserver/playlists/AlienStream/WDR5.smil (before)
  2005-04-08 23:13:42.9297 rtsppl file type for 
  /var/slimserver/playlists/AlienStream/WDR5.ram (after)
  
   
  I assume that unk stands for unknown file type.
  
  
AlienBBC is no 
longer as forgiving as before with my badly formed ASX files! 
;-) 
  Before AlienBBC 0.97, I just used 
  to put the stream URL into a file and just call it radio 
  station.asx. To get these working, I have had to change my files to 
  look as follows:
  
  asx 
  version="3.0"
   titleCadena 
  Ser/title
   
  entry
   
  ref 
  href="" 
  /
   
  /entry
  /asx
  
  Before, all that was in the file 
  was 
  mms://a874.l784138873.c7841.e.lm.akamaistream.net/D/874/7841/v0001/reflector:38873.
  
  
  Clearly I have broken something by 
  making the code change above, but for me, it pretty much does everything I 
  want it to, so its no problem for me, although a proper fix would be 
  nice. :-)
  
  Are the problems described just 
  with my system, or is this a potential bug in AlienBBC 0.97? If there is 
  a way of getting the above working without my code change, please let me 
  know!
  
  Thanks,
  
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[slim] Re: New to 6.x: Scan Time?

* JJZolx shaped the electrons to say...
Dumb question, but how do you know when a rescan has finished, and
should you avoid browsing while rescanning?
Browsing while rescanning is ok. There's a line at the top which will say
SlimServer is currently scanning your library..
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Re: [slim] Re: New to 6.x: Scan Time?

2005-04-08 Thread Jack Coates

JJZolx wrote:
Dumb question, but how do you know when a rescan has finished, and
should you avoid browsing while rescanning?

When the grey bar on the left says X albums containing Y songs by Z 
artists. It's okay to use it while it's scanning.

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[slim] Re: Rhapsody on Slim

2005-04-08 Thread jabesnyder


The only reason I bought squeezebox was for Rhapsody.  The (almost) any
song, any time, no need to buy or rip or find MP3s aspect is incredibly
appealing.  Everyone who has seen the squeezebox at my home is most
impressed with this feature, over any other.  It's just a bit buggy,
and I can't update SlimServer.  Slim Devices, PLEASE formally support
Rhapsody / RealSlim ASAP.  Timing is everything - you lose your
Rhapsody customers now, you might have a tough time getting them back!

I'll personally sell boxes for you for free, and I'm sure others will
too if you can just get RealSlim working again.  Anyone in the same
boat as me please let these guys know - I'm sure the business case is
there.


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[slim] MusicMagic quirks and a question

2005-04-08 Thread Charles Stanton

I noticed some odd behaviour when setting up the MusicMagic plugin. 
6.0x 4/8/nightly on XP Pro.  Basically Slimserver does not accept the
following settings except after repeated attempts (its as if it was
reluctant...):

On the main server settings page, I will click use MusicMagic.  Things
work during that instance of the server running.  Next time I start
the service (either by rebooting or restarting the service under
computer management), it reverts back 'do not use musicmagic.'  So I
tell it to 'use musicmagic' again - and same behaviour.  On the third
or fourth attempt, it took.  This behaviour is repeatable -- it put
Slimserver on another machine (also XP Pro) and the same thing
happened.

A similar pattern on the plugin settings.   I'll check for slimserver
to use musicmagic and it simply will not register on the first few
attempts.   After clicking change it comes back unchecked.   After
numerous attempts, it will be OK, but it is not predicable or terribly
reliable.   I also noticed that the musicmagic plugin generally seems
to work better (that is Slimserver recognizes it better) if 'load
plugins on the fly' is set.

My question is:  how do you create musicmagic mixes from the players display?  

Thx.
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RE: [slim] Re: AlienBBC 0.97 Observations.......(1 possible bug)

2005-04-08 Thread Patrick Delamere

Good point! :-)

I didn't realise there were more Slim forums.  I just had a quick look on
the Slimdevices website.  Sorry!

Patrick

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Subject: [slim] Re: AlienBBC 0.97 Observations...(1 possible bug)

* Triode shaped the electrons to say...

 Alien 0.97 is intendended to make mms / asx streams play as they would for
 slimserver on windows. [essentially just provides an alternative to
wmadec]

If this thread could be moved over to the plugins Forum/list.. :)

Thanks.

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[slim] Re: base, treble is stuck

2005-04-08 Thread daveblazer


ahhh thank u


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[slim] Re: Re: AlienBBC 0.97 Observations.......(1 possible bug)

* Patrick Delamere shaped the electrons to say...
Good point! :-)
I didn't realise there were more Slim forums.  I just had a quick look on
the Slimdevices website.  Sorry!
The additional ones were just launched today.
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Re: [slim] MusicMagic quirks and a question