[slim] Considering Purchase
Hi all, I'm considering purchasing this slimbox2 and I was wondering if I am able to re-route the sound coming from my windows box to the slim box? Right now I'm quite attached to using Yahoo Launchcast. Is there any way that I can play music 'to' the slimbox2? Thanks! -- cpriest ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: executing binaries on a squeezebox
I live in a small flat, so I have tucked the (Fedora linux) Slimserver in the bedroom, so that it doesn't cause noise when listening to music in the lounge over wi-fi. What I want is an easy way to turn the Slimserver on an off from my Squeezebox. (wake-up on LAN, execute script to turn off, etc.). I don't want to leave my PC switched on all the time for a number of reasons (packed full of additional hot disks that are screwed in to the case: not sure the cooling really supports this!!, wouldn't want to give hackers the chance to take over the box by leaving it on 24/7, makes too much noise in the bedroom to sleep with it on). On the other hand, I'm lazy so I don't want to have to walk in to the bedroom to power the Slimserver on and off every time I want to listen to music. (I got the SB2 for convenience in the first place, right...) -- kefa ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using Squeeze with a wireless network drive ?
So long as the external drive only holds your music files and not the slimserver application (which needs to run on the PC), it should not be a problem. Point the music library settings to the network dirve and you should be set. On 5/12/05, Michael Herger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have finally given in and realized this product is the real deal. My only complaint, if one could be made, is that I would like to be able to point my Squeezebox2 to get its music files not from my PC, but rather from an external hard drive that I have connected directly to my wireless G router. Is this possible, and I am just missing the trick to doing this ?..or is this not yet possible ? The device won't do a lot without a server. It needs slimserver run on a machine it can connect to. It can't read the files itself. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Using Squeeze with a wireless network drive ?
I am using a Network Storage Device (300 GB Buffalo Linkstation), with the Slimserver running on my office laptop. Works great. Some hackers *HAVE* figured out a way to load Slimserver directly on the Linkstation (for earlier v.1 models), but it looks a bit arduous. I'm fine running it with my setup, plus it's a breeze to install slimserver updates. -- sleepysurf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slim.exe V6.0.2 hangs on adding files to Squeeze Box
My slim server is hanging when adding files to the SqueezeBox for playing. I have the older squeeze box. It seems to occur when I add a whole album to the squeeze box and then add another album right away, before it has finished with the first album. Bascially the SlimServer.exe UI hangs and the slim.exe stops responding. The squeeze box can no longer talk to the server either. The only option is to kill the process and restart. I'm running Windows XP SP2. I did a quick search and didn't see this reported. Anyone know of an existing bug or seeing this also? -- tschmidt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] music magic broken in 6.1 05-15
On the windows platform (W2K Pro), the most recent 6.1 nightly appears to have broken the music magic plugin. It recognizes mm, but no 'mm' shows up next to songs/albums - even after messing with mm (restarting, checking api service, etc). Backed out to 05-14, and everything appears fine. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play for Sure songs
Up until two days ago, I would have been exactly like the vocal anti-PlaysForSure people in this discussion. DRM is super-irritating and it means that you don't really own what you own, I'd've said. Anyone who buys music from the iTunes store or whatever else is doing a foolish thing by buying encumbered low-fi music, I'd've said. And I'd still pretty much say that, but PlaysForSure now has a killer app that makes sense in a lot of ways: The subscription services. The way that these work (I've used the Yahoo one -- for $5 a month, why not? -- but I'm sure that Napster and Rhapsody On The Go work the same way) is that once you've paid the minimal entry fee (that $60 for a year of Yahoo is about the same as four CDs) you can browse through a reasonably large catalog of songs, and download whatever you like for free, legally. This wouldn't be especially interesting if you were limited to only playing in one client, but you're not. The music you've downloaded is standard WMA that will play on any PlaysForSure device. If you have a new-ish MP3 player that's from one of the big non-Apple companies (iRiver, Dell, Creative), you can put the tracks on there and listen to them whenever you want. If you have a network media player that supports PlaysForSure and WMC (Roku, D-Link, and others have these available now), you can play the tracks on your main audio system just like any of your other music. The Xbox 360 will let you listen to the tracks, too, when it becomes available. So will Media Center Extenders. And newer Windows Mobile cellphones. In other words, PlaysForSure is a license-able standard that allows protected content to be seamlessly played just about anywhere. And while protected content is fundamentally uninteresting for purchases, it's entirely understandable for subscription services. (Making a subscription service without DRM is totally unworkable, as everyone would subscribe for a month, download everything, and then quit.) If a subscription service doesn't interest you, well, fine (though I'd recommend trying it before coming to that conclusion), but railing about how users of subscription services don't own the music is beside the point -- I don't own the DVDs I get from Netflix, either, but it doesn't bother me. If I want to buy a DVD or a CD (which I often do, even with Netflix and Yahoo Unlimited), I know where Amazon is. To bring this back on topic, where does this leave the Squeezebox? Well, I've said before that there are three main media ecosystems out there -- Apple, Microsoft, and other -- and that's becoming more and more obviously true. The Squeezebox will never be a first-class member of the Apple ecosystem, because only devices that have an Apple logo are allowed to do that. The Squeezebox could become a first-class member of the Microsoft ecosystem by supporting Windows Media Connect and PlaysForSure (Roku was able to turn their Squeezebox-knockoff SoundBridge into a real WMC/PlaysForSure device, so I'm sure Slim could do the same), but that requires them to make a real commitment to those Microsoft standards. If not, that'll leave Slim firmly in the other category, where it really excels -- there's no other player whose open-source, Unix-based capabilities are nearly as developed or polished; from its Perl code base to native FLAC support, the Squeezebox 2 is an ideal product for Linux users. But, boy, that's really a small-ish niche... -- mkozlows ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Play for Sure songs
And while protected content is fundamentally uninteresting for purchases, it's entirely understandable for subscription services. (Making a subscription service without DRM is totally unworkable, as everyone would subscribe for a month, download everything, and then quit.) Interestingly, it has worked out very well for the adult content industry. ;) [Note that all that follows has nothing to do with DRM] As it stands, I'm not interested in a subscription service for a simple reason - I do not like lock ins at all. It might be that I like a few artists that only Yahoo has, or some that only Real has, or some Napster-only. Others may, heaven forbid, not partake in any of these services. That means that either I might have to pay for, say two different services and use two different pieces of software, or everyone offers the same content in a different package anyway. On the other hand, if everyone has this convenient access to the same large catalog of music, that's the end for anyone who's not included in this catalog. Independent labels lose even more visbility and sales. Additionally, people will feel like I'm already paying flat-rate, I'll make do without music I'd have to pay extra for. I'd hoped for widespread broadband to effect a de-centralisation in music distribution - the opposite seems to be the case. In any case the internet is still missing an open standard for the distribution of paid content - I'd like to be able to go to the Desperate Housewives web site, click on Episode Archive and just download any or all episodes for $1 each. Then I'd like to go the official Frank Sinatra web site and dowload a couple of albums for $10 each. And then I'd like to visit some obscure Russian researcher's web site for a paper on European fairy tales' influence on Japanese literature. $5. And because visiting so many web sites is tedious, let them put their for-sale content in special RSS-like feed, so it can be crawled, indexed and semi-automatically purchased by whatever free or paid indexing provider one might like to use. If someone can do without bells and whistles, just use Google (+ squeezebox plugin), if you'd like something fancy, use iTunes as your frontend, complete with editorial content. Yes, that is exactly like using .torrents, and torrent index sites - people seem to like the concept, why not make money on it? C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] How to keep playlist loaded after reboot?
SlimServer keeps loosing my Playlist for my Squeeze Box. Ever time I reboot or restart SlimServer the Playlist for Squeeze Box is empty and I have to reload the playlist and start it over. Have the setting under Server Setting: Behavior: Maintain Client Playlists: Remember Playlist It would always come up and start at the same song it was playing after reboot before I had to reinstall from a HD crash. I'm still in the process of reripping my CDs so it has to rescan my music on ever reload. Would this stop the playlist from reloading (even if I'm not changing the songs in it)? -- William ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to keep playlist loaded after reboot?
William wrote: SlimServer keeps loosing my Playlist for my Squeeze Box. Ever time I reboot or restart SlimServer the Playlist for Squeeze Box is empty and I have to reload the playlist and start it over. Have the setting under Server Setting: Behavior: Maintain Client Playlists: Remember Playlist It would always come up and start at the same song it was playing after reboot before I had to reinstall from a HD crash. I'm still in the process of reripping my CDs so it has to rescan my music on ever reload. Would this stop the playlist from reloading (even if I'm not changing the songs in it)? You probably have an old .m3u file in there. Two things: have you set the Playlists Folder in Server Settings? This is a good thing to do so that you don't get mysterious playlist files all over the place. And if you search for *.m3u, are any named __mac-address.m3u and dated about the time of your crash? Delete them. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Synchronize Roku Soundbridge and Squeezbox
i've been trying to sync 2 soundbridges with slimserver and its been an abject failure (although how much of that is my own i have no idea!!) -- phango13 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Synchronize Roku Soundbridge and Squeezbox
http://www.rokulabs.com/support/ On 5/15/05, phango13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been trying to sync 2 soundbridges with slimserver and its been anabject failure (although how much of that is my own i have no idea!!) --phango13___Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Synchronize Roku Soundbridge and Squeezbox
- Original Message - From: phango13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 6:36 PM Subject: [slim] Re: Synchronize Roku Soundbridge and Squeezbox i've been trying to sync 2 soundbridges with slimserver and its been an abject failure (although how much of that is my own i have no idea!!) -- phango13 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss DO we support ROKU's hardware??? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play for Sure songs
Christian Pernegger Wrote: Since you asked for any thoughts - it makes me really sad when someone actually uses (wants to use) these restrictive formats instead of boycotting them. I really do not look forward to a world of low quality lossy music that I have to lease instead of own. C. You know, most people are totally OK with paying Netflix $20/month to watch lots of DVDs they don't own. Many also pay their local cable company lots of money to watch HBO, Showtime, pay-per-view, and other premium content that's also protected and they don't own. Why are you against paying $5/month for unlimited listening of high quality tracks from someone like Yahoo Music? The business model is no different than millions of people are used to for video, and it's significantly cheaper. As for lossy music, I'll challenge anyone in a blind comparison to listen to Yahoo's 192k/bit dual pass encoded WMA tracks against the original CDs. I've done it on using the digital output of my Roku on a very high-end ($5K) audio system and the results are surprising. When the testing isn't blind, people claim to hear a difference. When it IS blind, suddenly they cannot tell which is which. I have both a Roku and a Squeezebox. I prefer the Squeezebox in many ways, but frankly the Roku gets more use now because it will play protected content like that from Yahoo. I don't understand the CEO of SlimDevices at least partly dismissing the Yahoo/Rhapsody/Napster business model for music? Microsoft, for all their evils, at least has managed to promote a somewhat universal standard for protecting the downloadable/streamable property of artists yet allow it to be played on a much wider variety of hardware. That's certainly more than Apple has done with their tightly controlled protected AAC format that ONLY plays on Apple hardware. If you still think services like Yahoo Unlimited are evil, try reading this: http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-FDuiCSg4eqinB8z.GGJ7TmAz?p=89 I honestly believe that unless Apple gets their head out of the sand and opens up their protected AAC format, protected WMA (via PlaysForSure) will have similar market share to Windows (i.e. 90%) in the not too distant future. If SlimDevices chooses not to support PlaysForSure, they will very likely end up like TurtleBeach did with the Audiotron--an early leader that didn't adapt their offerings to what most customers want. For those of you who believe all music should be free, I can only say you must not know any musicians trying to make a living at it. Paying $5/month--the price of one used CD--for access anytime I want to a personal library built from over a million tracks is a pretty sweet deal IMHO. -- AV_Guy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] music magic broken in 6.1 05-15
Can you provide more infomation (logs?). I can't find any changes to the code on the 14th, so the 15th build should be pretty much the same thing. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] AAC skips
AAC files are skipping intermittently under 6.0.2. It also skips when searching lists, etc. Computer is dedicated to just iTunes and Squeeze. Had no problem with prior versions. Titanium G4 laptop, OS 10.3 Is this a known problem? Thanks, Mark -- mcslim ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] music magic broken in 6.1 05-15
kdf - I misspoke. 5/14 also did not work - it was 5/13 that was ok. probably won't be more help as I am short on time to put 5/14 or 5/15 back in and debug. i'll try another nightly later in the week and post if any problems. thanks. On 5/15/05, kdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you provide more infomation (logs?). I can't find any changes to the code on the 14th, so the 15th build should be pretty much the same thing. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Scrolling Text Getting Stuck
Adrian, The 05/15 windows build still shows the same version number but the scrolling seems ok. However the server will not start with Musicinfo installed. I'm not sure if that's something you've done but I've definately not updated it since Michael released V1.72 Craig -- Craig ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play for Sure songs
Christian Pernegger Wrote: In Austria we have to pay a certain small amount quarterly if we own a device that could conceivably receive the government funded radio (or TV) stations. So we are in fact paying for radio, nothing wrong with it. :) In Britain we also pay a relatively small (a great deal less than a satellite, cable or newspaper subscription) 'licence fee' to have a TV in the house capable of broadcast reception. This is how the BBC (both radio and TV) is funded; the licence fee is not a tax, so it is not under direct government control, thus largely separating the funding of our public broadcaster - still one of the best in the world in my view - from political influence except when the BBC's Royal Charter comes up for review. There are problems with the mechanism, but nobody has come up with a better idea (that maintains the BBC's existence and independence, commercial-free) since its inception in the 1920s. In many people's view, including mine, it's worth the money. --Richard E -- relen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Help! SlimServer appears to have totally crashed
Hi - has this been addressed in any of the nightlies? one of the sb owners i support reports that ss crashes any time he tries to save a playlist of 100+ songs. thx. On 5/6/05, kdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: large playlists hammer the db like crazy. server runs and hides. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] All PCs and SB wireless to adsl hub... but want to stream pcm. Solution?
Simon @ Home wrote: Hello. Hi Simon, how's it going? Can anyone suggest a (not expensive) solution? Does it exist? I am getting quite fed up of not being able to listen to my lossless files on my hifi. How about this: http://variant.ch/phpwiki/WikiBlog/2005-02-27 R. -- http://robinbowes.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Flac to MP3
Mark Teigen wrote: My collection is in Flac. I need MP3 for a portable. Whats the best program for windows to convert Flac to MP3? Mark, I don't know about best but I use the following script: http://robinbowes.com/filemgmt/viewcat.php?cid=4 As of writing, v0.2.1 is the latest. I've not got round to getting it working on Windows yet (tested and used on Linux). R. -- http://robinbowes.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Scrolling Text Getting Stuck
Thats good to hear. Yes this is related - I hope Michael will be providing a new update which is compatible with my changes. We have discussed this on the developers list and he has a version which works with the changes. [I'm afraid I didn't know the version number does not work with windows!] Adrian - Original Message - From: Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: [slim] Re: Scrolling Text Getting Stuck Adrian, The 05/15 windows build still shows the same version number but the scrolling seems ok. However the server will not start with Musicinfo installed. I'm not sure if that's something you've done but I've definately not updated it since Michael released V1.72 Craig -- Craig ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Help! SlimServer appears to have totally crashed
Quoting Charles Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi - has this been addressed in any of the nightlies? one of the sb owners i support reports that ss crashes any time he tries to save a playlist of 100+ songs. thx. this was a known problem and should be fixed in the nightlies post 04/28. it involved stale data in the current playlist. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266 -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Plugin Suggestion
Patrick Dixon wrote: The idea came to mind when I heard about how an IT manager had explained to his boss that two disks in their RAID 5 array had died at the same time (causing the loss of a month's data), because they had been bought at the same time ;-) A more likely cause would be IT Manager incompetence! No spare drive in the array? No back up, *for a month* Sheesh, R. -- http://robinbowes.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB2 just for stereo ?
Hi, I generally listen to lossless stereo files hence the intrest in SB2, but just wondered if SB2 can pass through a DD or DTS signal from say winDVD ? Errm...another quick one I hope - the wireless SB2, with the cat5 (If I remember corectly) plug on the back, am I able to plug in a crossover cable(as I already have one) untill I get the wireless network set up ? Thanks in advance for any comments. -- Deaf Cat ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Considering Purchase
Jack Coates wrote: cpriest wrote: Hi all, I'm considering purchasing this slimbox2 and I was wondering if I am able to re-route the sound coming from my windows box to the slim box? Right now I'm quite attached to using Yahoo Launchcast. Is there any way that I can play music 'to' the slimbox2? Thanks! I'm not familiar with Launchcast, but if you can connect to it as an stream with another music client then it will work. If the only way to get to it is the soundcard line-out, it's still possible to play the music, but you'll probably need to use a second computer for Slimserver. I think what cpriest is talking about is using the SB as a dumb client, simple receiving an audio stream from another PC, i.e. like Windows Media Connect. Personally, I think this mode of operation should be supported, and would be eminently doable if the slimserver architecture were more modularised, i.e. separate processes/threads for streaming, driving the display, managing the library, etc. R. -- http://robinbowes.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: executing binaries on a squeezebox
kefa Wrote: I live in a small flat, so I have tucked the (Fedora linux) Slimserver in the bedroom, so that it doesn't cause noise when listening to music in the lounge over wi-fi. What I want is an easy way to turn the Slimserver on an off from my Squeezebox. (wake-up on LAN, execute script to turn off, etc.). I think this would be pretty useful -- if the Squeezebox can't connect to the SlimServer, it could try sending a WakeOnLan packet, and display a message to the effect of the server should be booting now, this'll take a bit I wouldn't want the squeezebox's power button to turn OFF my slimserver box, but slimserver is aware of the squeezebox's power status -- you could probably watch for that change in a script on your server, and perform a shutdown at that point. -- Maditude ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Play for Sure songs
Why are you against paying $5/month for unlimited listening of high quality tracks from someone like Yahoo Music? I have repeatedly said in this thread that I think the music subscription services are a good idea in principle. The only thing bad thing to be said about them is that they lock you in to a particular provider, which may or may not put independent producers at even more of a disadvantage. You know, most people are totally OK with paying Netflix $20/month to watch lots of DVDs they don't own. Many also pay their local cable company lots of money to watch HBO, Showtime, pay-per-view, and other premium content that's also protected and they don't own. We have no Netflix (I'd kill for it) here, no opportunity to get HBO shows (other than torrents). That said, none of this content is protected. I can rip the DVDs and record HBO with whatever device I chose to. As for lossy music, I'll challenge anyone in a blind comparison to listen to Yahoo's 192k/bit dual pass encoded WMA tracks against the original CDs. The point is, that you can't reencode losslessly whenever a new format of choice comes along. Think the current flavour of .wma is going to be around forever? Think again ... It's pretty hard to find the Windows Media V2 codec nowadays. For subscription services, this does not matter, naturally, as long as the streaming players can be updated. protecting the downloadable/streamable property of artists Since I still refuse to think of content in abstract form as property, let's just say rights instead. Even then, it's more likely the studios that are protected, not the artists - but I got what you mean :) To clarify my viewpoints: Leasing / renting DRMed content == good (There may be other problems with this but the DRM isn't among those) Selling DRMed content == bad. For those of you who believe all music should be free, I can only say you must not know any musicians trying to make a living at it. Do you know any musicians that can make a living on selling copies of their work? Do they have a big-5 contract? If you want to make money as an independent artist, put some of your tracks on p2p, the others sell on your web site via PayPal. Sign up with emusic, post a story to Slashdot or something. People do not get rich via record contracts these days. C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: executing binaries on a squeezebox
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1200 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Play for Sure songs
In Britain we also pay a relatively small (a great deal less than a satellite, cable or newspaper subscription) 'licence fee' to have a TV in the house capable of broadcast reception. This is how the BBC (both radio and TV) is funded; the licence fee is not a tax, so it is not under direct government control, thus largely separating the funding of our public broadcaster - still one of the best in the world in my view - from political influence except when the BBC's Royal Charter comes up for review. [Completely and utterly OT now] Same here, more or less. Would be nice if I could subscribe to the BBC - I quite enjoyed their programming during my brief stays in Britain. Which reminds me: I quite fancy the series Coupling, which is, IIRC a BBC production. It will most likely never be released in Austria. Dubbed, maybe. I borrowed the DVDs of two seasons from a friend. However, there's at least one other season I have not seen. Should I - have to buy the DVDs (for 19 pounds), just for watching it once? just torrent it? forget about it? There are problems with the mechanism, As evident in Austria, where the ruling government has found a way around the political independence and has lifted the no commercials rule to fill the country's coffers. :) C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2: DHCP not working
I have actually had the same problem, just started happening, the SB2 used to get an address via dhcp, now I have to set it to manual and it works fine, kind of annoying. I have a wireless netgear. -- duhaas ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 just for stereo ?
I generally listen to lossless stereo files hence the intrest in SB2, but just wondered if SB2 can pass through a DD or DTS signal from say winDVD ? You'd have to rip the audio beforehand, because there's no way ATM to stream audio from arbitrary applications. Other than that, it should work. Errm...another quick one I hope - the wireless SB2, with the cat5 (If I remember corectly) plug on the back, am I able to plug in a crossover cable(as I already have one) untill I get the wireless network set up ? I assume you're asking if you can attach the sb2 directly to a computer via a crossover cable? Yes. C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Synchronize Roku Soundbridge and Squeezbox
Tim Morley wrote: ... DO we support ROKU's hardware??? No. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help! SlimServer appears to have totally crashed
kdf Wrote: large playlists hammer the db like crazy. server runs and hides. Hang on a moment... I thought the idea of developing the ss version 6 db backend was to enable large playlists without the old problem seen with the ver 5.x 's?? I really like the idea of being able to shuffle my entire library once in a while (admitedly this is smaller than most on here - around 2000 songs at present) especially when I am feeling lazy!! Just as a reference - that bag'o'shite netgear MP101 thing can quite happily shuffle its whole library... Nic -- DrNic ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help! SlimServer appears to have totally crashed
* DrNic shaped the electrons to say... kdf Wrote: large playlists hammer the db like crazy. server runs and hides. Hang on a moment... I thought the idea of developing the ss version 6 db backend was to enable large playlists without the old problem seen with the ver 5.x's?? Playlists themselves aren't stored in the database yet. -D -- There was supposed to be a big kaboom. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: executing binaries on a squeezebox
kdf Wrote: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1200 Cool, thanks. One of these times I'm gonna remember to do a bugsearch before I pipe up with my two cents. ;-) -- Maditude ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: sync slimserver computer squeezebox2
do I need to run softsqueeze to play music from slimserver on the host computer? Thanks, Gary -- gaz ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play for Sure songs
Christian Pernegger Wrote: The point is, that you can't reencode losslessly whenever a new format of choice comes along. Think the current flavour of .wma is going to be around forever? Think again ... It's pretty hard to find the Windows Media V2 codec nowadays. That's yet one more reason why $5/month unlimited DRM makes a lot more sense than $0.99/song Apple DRM. Even if the format eventually becomes obsolete, it's hard to argue you didn't get your $5/month worth. You're free at any time to pick the best deal going for a monthly music subscription. If someone has a hot new codec/format, and you want to switch, it's easy to do so as you have little investment in your own DRM music collection. It's also very likely the hardware will become obsolete before the format does, so that's less of an issue when you look at the big picture. Besides, much of the hardware, and the PlaysForSure standard itself, will hopefully be able to support at least the next round of new formats as they become viable. Eventually, it's safe to assume new formats will simply require more computing horsepower than current players have and/or will support multichannel (i.e. 5.1) audio. Those formats will require newer hardware than virtually everything shipping today. But, in the meantime, I sincerely hope the Slim folks will enhance the SqueezeBox (or at least SB2) to play subscription based DRM WMA. If Roku can do it, I don't see why Slim cannot? I suspect Microsoft would love to add the Squeezebox to their list of compatible PlaysForSure hardware? -- AV_Guy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Help! SlimServer appears to have totally crashed
thanks. but is the fix in 6.0.x or 6.1? the bug report says its target resolution is 6.1. i'll ask the customer to upgrade, but have not recommended 6.1 yet. On 5/15/05, kdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Charles Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi - has this been addressed in any of the nightlies? one of the sb owners i support reports that ss crashes any time he tries to save a playlist of 100+ songs. thx. this was a known problem and should be fixed in the nightlies post 04/28. it involved stale data in the current playlist. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266 -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: sync slimserver computer squeezebox2
gaz wrote: do I need to run softsqueeze to play music from slimserver on the host computer? Thanks, Gary no, but you do if you want to synchronize what's on your computer with what's on your squeezebox(en). If you just want to listen to your library from the computer, use a media streamer like WMP, iTunes, WinAmp, XMMS, Zinf, c to connect to http://yourserver:9000/stream.mp3. It will play silence until you go to the web interface, locate the player and tell it to play something. Softsqueeze is the best way to listen to your library from the computer, unless you or your machine are allergic to Java. It is not the only way though. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: sync slimserver computer squeezebox2
On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 17:55 -0700, gaz wrote: do I need to run softsqueeze to play music from slimserver on the host computer? The short answer is no. The longer answer depends on a lot of things. As others have posted, nearly anything that can play streamed music works. use a media streamer like WMP, iTunes, WinAmp, XMMS, Zinf, c to connect to http://yourserver:9000/stream.mp3. This connects through the slimserver and is nice if you want to synchronize multiple outputs, or use playlists from the slimserver. But I also use Samba to export the directories that contain my music, and then I can also use nearly any player to play the files directly. What you do really depends on what you want. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Synchronize Roku Soundbridge and Squeezbox
I have two Roku M1000 Soundbridges running slimserver 6.1 (on Gentoo) They work well with slimserver. I like slimserver best of all the server software that I have tried with them. (WMC, iTunes, twonkyvision) When you choose 'synchronize' they are sometimes off a fraction of a second (tens to hundreds of milliseconds) but stopping and restarting a few times (play/pause) I can get them very close to synchronous. I use flac - wav or flac - lame. -- oldking ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Why is loading large playlists so brutally slow?
Apologies if this has been covered already, but I searched the forum (admittedly briefly) and didn't see it mentioned. I am running slimserver on Windows XP with an Athalon 64, half gig of memory, all that good stuff. I have a big (.m3u) playlist as well as some smaller ones. The biggest playlist has 4700 songs and takes 38 seconds to start playing using either my Squeezebox 1 or my Squeezebox 2. Since I can load either one in Winamp in about a second, that seems more than a little unreasonable. I don't believe it was that slow under Slimserver 5. I tried running Slimserver 6 on a 32-bit Athalon computer, same deal. I just installed the new SlimServer Version: 6.0.2 - 3085. Same deal. Loading a playlist with 600 songs takes only 4 seconds, which frankly seems excessive too, but I can survive with that. 38 seconds to load a playlist, however, I cannot accept. I am not using iTunes. Turning shuffle on or off doesn't appear to matter. My music collection is mostly mp3s, with some .oggs. While the playlist is loading slim.exe seems to suck up all my CPU usage. What's going on and is there any way of fixing it? I'm not married to .m3u files if using a different playlist format would help. -- mhenry1384 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Why is loading large playlists so brutally slow?
I wonder if this is related in any way to how slow it takes to do a browse-folder. Like 10 seconds even when there aren't that many items in the folder. In any event, it's notably slower than in 5.x Thanks, Phillip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Help! SlimServer appears to have totally crashed
Quoting Charles Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: thanks. but is the fix in 6.0.x or 6.1? the bug report says its target resolution is 6.1. i'll ask the customer to upgrade, but have not recommended 6.1 yet. you failed to read down to the bottom, in the comments: patch committed to 6.1 builds: change 3100 patch committed to 6.0.x builds: change 3101 These were done April 28, thus are part of the nightly builds. The next official release is likely not to be another 6.0.x so the choice is yours how you want to support your customers. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
