[slim] Re: 24/96 support and Transporter

2006-07-24 Thread ajmitchell

I have to agree with FL here, if the high end DACs in the transporter
could be used for other components (via digital input) this would be a
killer app. for audiophiles I think. It would go a long way to justify
the ticket price...because you'd be getting an awesome music player and
awesome DAC as well. 

Just a thought/

alex


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[slim] Re: Transporter!

2006-07-24 Thread WSLam

azinck3 Wrote: 
> You could ebay it...they fetch a good price.  Or give it to someone to
> evangelize the Squeezebox.

oh trust me, i have already done my part as an evangelist! =)


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread jtfields

Congratulations on the new product.  While excited, I also fall into the
category of the guys who would need to take out a second mortgage to buy
it. :(  

Funny thing, when I was reading about it before I saw the price I was
thinking "man, I bet this thing cost $800." :)

I've always wished for a Squeezebox with the controls and displays this
thing has.  I'm not an audiophile so things like a "fully balanced
analog stage" never ocurred to me (neither did a $2,000 price tag).  I
do hope that somewhere down the line they offer a more middle ground
product that looks and operates like the Transporter but with more
modest internal components (I'm more than happy with the current
Squeezebox DAC.)  I'm hoping this is just the beginning...


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread qirex

Honestly I'm glad to see this if only because it will help move digital
audio into a realm that has snubbed it for years. I honestly believe
that the Squeezebox has the sound quality of a real audiophile device
but there are people in the world who turn up their noses at anything
[even cables] costing under a grand.

I'm also glad to see it for the health of Slim Devices as a company, I
think this could do pretty well and while I'll avoid snarky comments
about it I imagine the margins on the Transporter are a great deal deal
better than the Squeezebox [probably greater than the Squeezebox's
retail price]. And if unit sales get good maybe we'll see some trickle
down of features like the knob  and buttons to the "low end" model.

Good job guys, I'm not buying one but I hope a lot of folks do.


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[slim] Re: ? gapless playback of lame mp3s ?

2006-07-24 Thread radish

b6662966 Wrote: 
> thanks you, i am clarify, i believe playing lame gapless only requires
> to read the lame tag, dont believe very complex actually very
> simplistic? i possibel play gapless lame with my ipod using rockbox
> (http://www.rockbox.org/) so problem for gapless mp3 only being
> software related.
That is correct. As it says in the enhancement request, in the specific
case where the mp3s were encoded with the correct version of lame, it
will have written special tags with the data needed to play gaplessly.
It is, however, up to the player to read those tags and use them, and
the player in the SB currently doesn't. Mark is also right however, in
that if gapless is important to you using a format specifically
designed with that in mind (ogg, flac, etc) is a much better idea. I do
that, and never hear a gap on my SBs or my Karma :)


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Pale Blue Ego

I am also very interested in seeing how this flies with the high-end
community.  I think this could be the machine that pushes computer
audio into the audiophile mainstream.  I can visualize a high % of demo
rooms at high-end shows employing this as a front end, and Slim may gain
a lot of audio specialty shops as brick-and-mortar dealerships.

In fact, there could be a niche career for experienced Squeezebox nerds
to become Transporter consultants, helping more traditional (stuffy,
older, non-geek) audiophiles get up to speed with the intricacies of
file formats, networking, ripping and tagging, server hardware, etc.


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[slim] Re: Hmmm....2nd thoughts on buying SB3

2006-07-24 Thread jamie

I went through a lot of yes no and maybes reading all the problems
people have had with sbs in these forums while thinking about buying
one. Then I downloaded slimserver and it just got worse. Couldn't get
it to work. Then a few weeks ago I saw one for sale through a local
online retailer and bought it on the spot. When it arrived I plugged it
in and haven't looked back. I have no idea at all about networks and
routers and all that stuff but it works, it sounds great, a breeze to
use (I'd say if you've ever figured out how to work a tv/video/dvd/tivo
from the manual you can do this) and I would totally recommened it. Need
to say I use it wired so as to minimise the possibility of failure. It's
a great way to listen to music.


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[slim] Re: ? gapless playback of lame mp3s ?

2006-07-24 Thread b6662966

Mark Lanctot Wrote: 
> Note that Ogg and FLAC were designed from the ground up with gapless
> playback in mind.  MP3 wasn't, and any software or device that does
> play it back gapless is going through some pretty complex procedures to
> get it to play back gapless.
> 
> SlimServer isn't quite there yet, but neither are most portable devices
> including the much-vaunted iPod.

thanks you, i am clarify, i believe playing lame gapless only requires
to read the lame tag, dont believe very complex actually very
simplistic?


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[slim] Re: Transporter!

2006-07-24 Thread azinck3

el payo Wrote: 
> Is there any way to pre-order a Transporter w/o the Squeezebox - I
> really don't need another one...
> 

You could ebay it...they fetch a good price.  Or give it to someone to
evangelize the Squeezebox.


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[slim] Re: Transporter!

2006-07-24 Thread WSLam

el payo Wrote: 
> Is there any way to pre-order a Transporter w/o the Squeezebox - I
> really don't need another one...

I second that. It would simply be a waste...


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Re: [slim] Re: [Fun] - Listening time with large collections

2006-07-24 Thread Jack Coates
On 7/24/06, Mark Lanctot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:geoffb Wrote:> Plus there's just the raw bragging rights :)
That's what I suspect a lot of it is.  It all comes down to "mine'sbigger than yours."  :-DI prefer to say "I'm lazier about deleting things than you are" :)
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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Music Machine

EnochLight Wrote: 
> Am I the only one that has a major issue with this equipment costing
> $2000?
> ...
> 
If the product lives up to the promise, $2000 represents a new paradigm
in component engineering, and will rock the audiophile world, where some
pepole pay $50K for cd players.

This could cause a revolution from the top down.  It will be -very-
interesting to see how this plays out over the next year.


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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Michael Herger

Now the term "Transporter" is awfully long to type so it won't be long
before people start abbreviating it.  Let's come up with a suitable
abbreviation right here...


Model T? Hmm... was once used for "... the first affordable automobile".

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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Pat Farrell

EnochLight wrote:

Am I the only one that has a major issue with this equipment costing
$2000?

I'm all about the new design and hardware, but... all of us knowing how
much it costs to build a high-end PC from scratch, even with a quality
soundcard and huge flat panel display... I feel that $2K is killing off
a huge amount of potential buyers.


Not at all. It is aimed at "audiophiles" and they regularly
spend unimaginable amounts of money.

The Audiophile magazines regularly review turntables that cost
$10,000, and a favorite costs $75,000.

You're just not the target market.

You can't seriously talk about "high-end PC" and serious audio
in the same breath. As a minimum, serious audio requires
that the DAC be outside the PC chassis, PCs are terrible
places for quality analog stuff. See all the "pro audio"
gear that uses outboard chassis for their DAC and ADC.
Inside the PC with digital is fine, but analog has no
business inside with all the RF.

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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread EnochLight

Am I the only one that has a major issue with this equipment costing
$2000?

I'm all about the new design and hardware, but... all of us knowing how
much it costs to build a high-end PC from scratch, even with a quality
soundcard and huge flat panel display... I feel that $2K is killing off
a huge amount of potential buyers.

If this thing cost $500, or even just under $1000 - I *MIGHT* be able
to justify it.  But $2000 is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] of cash for one audio
component.  I dare to say most audiophiles don't make the kind of cash
necessary to afford such a device.

But whatever; I'm sure all of those out there who have $2K to blow are
slapping their plastic down and laughing at my post.

*shrugs*

I'll have to keep enjoying my SB3 for now.  Good luck Sean!


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Michaelwagner

Mark Lanctot Wrote: 
> Tactile feedback, now that is cool.
I can't wait for the plugin support for that:-)

I'm guessing that if you try to turn the volume up above distortion
levels, the knob will fight you for it :-)


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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Jacob Potter

On 7/24/06, Mark Lanctot
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I should remember, the SB3 is not a discontinued product at all,
Transporter will sell beside it for the high-end market, so we can
still look forward to new SB2/3 features and fixes.


There's even some experimental work in 6.5 to improve performance /
reduce dropouts on the SB1.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Mark Lanctot

Thanks for the reply Sean.

seanadams Wrote: 
> It ain't no Audiotron knob! The knob has tactile feedback which changes
> dynamically as you move through the UI. We will add some more info to
> the web site soon...

I saw that but now it's finally sinking in.  Tactile feedback, now that
is cool.  I guess you'd feel it click through various menu items.  Cool
indeed.

> It's the same architecture (ip3023) but running at 325MHz - I believe
> we're the only ones using it as yet.

There ya go, overclocking!  Although this is probably officially
sanctioned by the manufacturer.

Still, it'd pique geek interest to say it's overclocked right from the
factory.  ;-)

> Fundamental software feature differences depending on CPU speed are not
> planned. The additional cycles are only for driving the new hardware
> (2nd display, larger visualizer, 96khz etc).

Ah.  Good to hear.  I saw your response in another thread how 96 kHz
for the SB3 is a separate engineering effort and that it's facilitated
in the Transporter as the hardware is specifically designed for it.

I don't have 24/96 material anyway.

> 
> Yes, but there is much more non-transporter stuff coming in 6.5 too,
> and there may even be a surprise or two.  ;)

I haven't even tried out 6.5 yet but there are lots of people out there
commenting on how stable it's getting.  I'm getting more and more
inclined to try it out.

I should remember, the SB3 is not a discontinued product at all,
Transporter will sell beside it for the high-end market, so we can
still look forward to new SB2/3 features and fixes.


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Re: [slim] Re: Transporter!

2006-07-24 Thread dean blackketter


On Jul 24, 2006, at 6:43 PM, el payo wrote:

Is there any way to pre-order a Transporter w/o the Squeezebox - I
really don't need another one...
Yes.  Call our offices and talk to one of the nice sales guys.   
They'll take your order via the phone.


It'll still cost $1999, though.

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[slim] Re: Transporter!

2006-07-24 Thread Mark Lanctot

el payo Wrote: 
> 2. Are the displays customizable? (i.e. swap VU's from right display to
> left/display track info one, upcoming song on other/ etc.)

Haven't heard any info about this yet.  It would open up a lot of
possibilities - how about a super-big display that multiscreens both
displays into one super-wide one that doesn't need any scrolling?  :-)

Or a 2-line bargraph of signal strength and buffer state.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Skunk

kdf Wrote: 
> 
> or perhaps TX
> 

That's transmit, at least in morse code. I suggested because you always
see Tx/Rx for transmitter/receiver in jitter discussions. 

My other comment was a joke. I'm sure it's worth every
penny:jealous:


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Skunk

Mark Lanctot Wrote: 
> 
> Now the term "Transporter" is awfully long to type so it won't be long
> before people start abbreviating it.  Let's come up with a suitable
> abbreviation right here... 

Tx 

It's $2,000 and I can't drive it?


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[slim] Re: ? gapless playback of lame mp3s ?

2006-07-24 Thread Mark Lanctot

Note that Ogg and FLAC were designed from the ground up with gapless
playback in mind.  MP3 wasn't, and any software or device that does
play it back gapless is going through some pretty complex procedures to
get it to play back gapless.

SlimServer isn't quite there yet, but neither are most portable devices
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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread kdf


On 24-Jul-06, at 7:38 PM, Mark Lanctot wrote:


Now the term "Transporter" is awfully long to type so it won't be long
before people start abbreviating it.  Let's come up with a suitable
abbreviation right here... TP?  Too much like "toilet paper".  TR?
Maybe, but not intuitive enough.  Tporter?  Not enough of an
abbreviation.


trans = X XP?? :)

or perhaps TX

dual displays...
how about now playing info alongside vis.  I think there are a couple 
requests to go back and forth, so why not both at once?

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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread seanadams

Mark Lanctot Wrote: 
> I followed the instructions and waited for the SB website to be updated
> at 3 PM PDT.

Appreciated.

> 
> - knob on the front (yes, the magical and lamented Audiotron/popcorn
> knob!)
> 

It ain't no Audiotron knob! The knob has tactile feedback which changes
dynamically as you move through the UI. We will add some more info to
the web site soon...

> the Transporter doesn't have the same CPU as the SB3.  The specs for the
> Transporter list a 325 MIPS, 8-way multithreaded processor.  The Ubicom
> 3023 in the SB3 is listed as 250 MIPS at 250 MHz.  The top-of-the-line
> Ubicom StreamEngine 5170 tops out at 270 MIPS and is 10-way
> multithreaded.  So either Slim is no longer using a Ubicom processor or
> they've overclocked a 3023. 

It's the same architecture (ip3023) but running at 325MHz - I believe
we're the only ones using it as yet.

> 
> :-)  Either way, the hardware is more capable and would be able to do
> things the SB3 might not be able to do at some point in time, so there
> could be different functional feature sets, much like the SB1 versus
> the SB2/3.
> 

Fundamental software feature differences depending on CPU speed are not
planned. The additional cycles are only for driving the new hardware
(2nd display, larger visualizer, 96khz etc).

> 
> The unit must have fairly extensive firmware, getting away from the
> "slim device" approach somewhat.  The digital input functionality and
> dual screens must be controlled by firmware, no?  It would definitely
> have different firmware than the SB3 due to its feature set.

Yes, they are different firmware images, but built from the same code
tree. The only new "non-slim" feature will be the ability for it to act
as a standalone DAC in the absence of any network connection.

> 
> I get the impression SS 6.5 is being groomed specifically for it. 
> Development on 6.3.x has slowed and most of the work is aimed at 6.5.

Yes, but there is much more non-transporter stuff coming in 6.5 too,
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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Jacob Potter

On 7/24/06, Mark Lanctot
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I wonder if this means any new capabilities for the SB3?  Maybe yes,
maybe no - the Transporter doesn't have the same CPU as the SB3.  The
specs for the Transporter list a 325 MIPS, 8-way multithreaded
processor.  The Ubicom 3023 in the SB3 is listed as 250 MIPS at 250
MHz.  The top-of-the-line Ubicom StreamEngine 5170 tops out at 270 MIPS
and is 10-way multithreaded.


I remember seeing somewhere that there was a 325 MHz IP3k chip. That's
probably what they're using. In any case, the RAM and Flash are the
same, so there's not that much difference between SB2/3 and
Transporter.


The unit must have fairly extensive firmware, getting away from the
"slim device" approach somewhat.  The digital input functionality and
dual screens must be controlled by firmware, no?  It would definitely
have different firmware than the SB3 due to its feature set.


The SB2 isn't really "slim" either - multiple decoders and
visualizers, direct streaming, DNS (Squeezenetwork in general), and so
on. Gone are the days of a pure-assembler firmware :)

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[slim] Re: [Fun] - Listening time with large collections

2006-07-24 Thread Mark Lanctot

zooropa320 Wrote: 
> In that case you missed out on their spectacular 1989 release "Sonic
> Temple".  I really liked "Beyond Good and Evil" from 2001 as well
> although it is much heavier than their other albums (that's a good
> thing, to me).

Yeah, I gotta check those albums out.  I'm going by the self-titled
album -The Cult- and it's, as I said, entirely unremarkable.  Decent
but not eminently listenable, unique or catchy.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread peecee

Does anyone have a picture of the old rack mount design we all came up
with about a year ago?  From the cobwebs in my brain, I seem to think
this is very close to what we said we wanted, almost to a tee.

I'd mortgage my house to buy a couple of these.  Actually, I'm going
through that process right now, maybe I'll see if I can get the
adjuster to add on enough for two Transporters.  Audiophile quality is
expensive, but this looks to be a home run for slim devices.  Hopefully
they'll sell enough to justify more without interrupting progress to a
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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Jack Coates
On 7/24/06, Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/24/06, bklaas <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Michaelwagner Wrote:> Your 2 year old likes Beck?>> As in Jeff Beck?
>> Or is there another Beck that appeals to 2 year olds?no no, the other Beck (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck#Discography).She literally goes nuts when Que Onda Guero comes over the squeezebox.
My kids like Beck too, FWIW. I'm also not a target market type for this device, these days a car option would get my money in a heartbeat and a boombox would get it in two or three. Still, it's a great move for the company to claim the high-end market.
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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Jack Coates
On 7/24/06, bklaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Michaelwagner Wrote:> Your 2 year old likes Beck?>> As in Jeff Beck?
>> Or is there another Beck that appeals to 2 year olds?no no, the other Beck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck#Discography).She literally goes nuts when Que Onda Guero comes over the squeezebox.
My kids like Beck too, FWIW. I'm also not a target market type for this device, these days a car option would get my money in a heartbeat and a boombox would get it in two or three. Still, it's a great move for the company to claim the high-end market.
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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Mark Lanctot

I joined the SB world as a reviewer so I received the pre-press release
the same time the websites did.  Unlike those sites (Jez take note!), I
followed the instructions and waited for the SB website to be updated at
3 PM PDT.  So I was sitting on this all afternoon and barely able to
contain myself from gushing about it right here.

They've listened to nearly every single feature I've seen requested:

- rack mount
- knob on the front (yes, the magical and lamented Audiotron/popcorn
knob!)
- controls on the front
- better remote
- balanced outputs
- better power regulation/supply

In addition there are a few things that are a surprise:

- TWO displays - wonder how they work?  Can't be two independent Now
Playing screens.  May lead to new visualizers as having Now Playing on
one screen with a spectrum analyzer on the other looks cool but may not
be truly informative to the audiophile.  Audiophiles may be more
interested in some sort of multi-line technical readout, i.e. wireless
strength, buffer status, etc.  I kind of suspect that the second screen
was added for visual symmetry to offset the knob in the centre.
- digital INPUTS, including BNC and balanced!  INPUTS, so the unit can
act as a DAC too...
- BNC and balanced digital outputs in addition to optical/coax
- external word clock input
- an even better DAC
- integrated IR repeater
- RS232 port (never thought about that)
- two external antennas to address wireless strength issues
- "full 54 Mbps bandwidth PCI wireless interface"

I don't think SlimServer can currently accommodate 96 kHz FLACs so
modifications are coming.

I wonder if this means any new capabilities for the SB3?  Maybe yes,
maybe no - the Transporter doesn't have the same CPU as the SB3.  The
specs for the Transporter list a 325 MIPS, 8-way multithreaded
processor.  The Ubicom 3023 in the SB3 is listed as 250 MIPS at 250
MHz.  The top-of-the-line Ubicom StreamEngine 5170 tops out at 270 MIPS
and is 10-way multithreaded.  So either Slim is no longer using a Ubicom
processor or they've overclocked a 3023.  :-)  Either way, the hardware
is more capable and would be able to do things the SB3 might not be
able to do at some point in time, so there could be different
functional feature sets, much like the SB1 versus the SB2/3.

The unit must have fairly extensive firmware, getting away from the
"slim device" approach somewhat.  The digital input functionality and
dual screens must be controlled by firmware, no?  It would definitely
have different firmware than the SB3 due to its feature set.

I get the impression SS 6.5 is being groomed specifically for it. 
Development on 6.3.x has slowed and most of the work is aimed at 6.5.

Another cool touch:

"The company will begin shipping the product on September 18, 2006 and
will accept pre-orders until then.   Any order placed before the ship
date will receive a free Squeezebox, an ideal solution for customers
who wish to listen to their digital music in more than one room."

So users have something to play with and can get SlimServer up and
running.  They'll get a feel for the system and have a chance get their
music library in order.  When they get their Transporter, they can use
the SB3 in another room.

Sounds like Slim has a winner on their hands! Congratulations to Slim
Devices!  This is a no-holds-barred, the-sky's-the-limit kind of
device.  It ought to trounce competitors like Olive Musica, who should
be very nervous right about now - remember, Slim invented this market. 
People who are shocked that the SB3 costs $299 will complain about the
$1999 price, but they aren't the target market and audiophiles tend to
spend this kind of money on CDPs anyway - sometimes much, much more.

Now the term "Transporter" is awfully long to type so it won't be long
before people start abbreviating it.  Let's come up with a suitable
abbreviation right here... TP?  Too much like "toilet paper".  TR? 
Maybe, but not intuitive enough.  Tporter?  Not enough of an
abbreviation.

Personally I won't be able to afford the thing for 2 years at least,
maybe longer.  Plus the rest of my current system just wouldn't do it
justice.


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[slim] Re: Transporter!

2006-07-24 Thread radish

I'm sure the Transporter uses Slimserver just like squeezeboxes and
slimp3, so transcoding would be user configurable.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread rupped

This person has the exact same thought process as me (is it a
sickness?)...

Step 1: Same
Step 2: Sell Aud. Illusions Mod. 3A Pre $1,000
Step 3: Sell Rega Planet CDP $200
Step 4: Sell Link DAC III w/upsampling $300

I couldn't bring myself to sell my SB2, the power supply or the new
SB3, so I'm out $500.

Anybody want a mint tube pre amp???

This is not going to be easy...

twylie Wrote: 
> For me, this is an easy decision (assuming it sounds as good as I expect
> it to):
> 
> Step 1: order Transporter bundle = -$1999
> Step 2: sell Balanced Theta Miles CDP = + $1000
> Step 3: sell current wireless SB3  and linear power supply = + $250
> Step 4: sell gratis SB3 = + $275
> 
> Final cost should be less than $500 for the upgrade.  I can easily get
> that through "purchasing" since it will remove one piece of electronic
> gear from the house!
> 
> Big thanks to Sean and gang for taking this chance and resetting the
> bar once again.  
> 
> 
> -twylie


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread pm314

I'm a current SB3 owner and would love to buy a **TRANSPORTER** (read 
w/ deep voice and echo :)   but why would I preorder and only get
another SB3 free?  Then I would have 2 SB3 and a **TRANSPORTER**. Not
that this is a terrible thing because I use it all of the time, but I
really dont need that many and would end up trying to resell at least
one. Is there any other discount for current owners? Even $150 off
might sway the decision some.. 

Overall, I think this is a great direction and hope Slim Devices
continues to broaden their product offerings.  I've been both barely
able to afford the SB (had it existed) and now able to consider the
Transporter (if I continue to drive my '97) and would guess there is a
very broad market out there for these types of products. Great work SD
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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread shabbs

Michaelwagner Wrote: 
> No one has brought this up so far so I'll be daring.
> 
> What's with the name?
> 
> It sounds so ... I don't know ... *Star Trek*-ish!
True. Would something like the SD-1000 have been more in line with
audiophiles' preferred naming conventions? Or would that have been too
geeky?

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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread yc_

One product development cycle is for the mfg to release a 'no-holds
barred' statement product first at a high price to show what the mfg is
capable of.

After getting rave reviews, it can then release a slightly cheaper
model that still manages to get 90% of the performance of the statement
product. But the cheaper product will not have balanced outputs to
distinguish it from the high end product.

Now doesn't that sound familiar... :)

At $1999, I am still not convinced to give up an SB3+Benchmark DAC
combo for it (similar pricing and has a Headphone Amp - where's the
headphone amp on the transporter)


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[slim] Re: Transporter!

2006-07-24 Thread el payo

Is there any way to pre-order a Transporter w/o the Squeezebox - I
really don't need another one...


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Michaelwagner

No one has brought this up so far so I'll be daring.

What's with the name?

It sounds so ... I don't know ... *Star Trek*-ish!


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread akwok

seanadams Wrote: 
> Correct - this is a discount/bonus for those who pre-order. SRP is
> $1999.

So it won't be $1700 in the future?  :(

-Adrian


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Re: [slim] Re: 24/96 support and Transporter

2006-07-24 Thread Free Lunch

Thanks for the response, Sean.  The Transporter looks great
feature-wise but pricey for those of us who have already gotten used
to SB *and* the big savings from eliminating a pre-amp from the
system.  My frugal self would normally rather spend $1000 on a good
DAC and $1000 on an sb4 than $2000 on an sb4.   But we haven't heard
it yet... The Grace m902 is about $1500 and Transporter may be better.

Can the Transporter's DAC function without a slimserver connection?

So if I put a Transporter at the heart of my playback and build out my
24/96 collection (already pretty substantial), I would still not be
able to play that library on my satellite sb2's and sb3's..  They
could not be sync'd.  I am really wondering how hard the sb2/3 96k
support would be and if it will ever happen.   I hate the thought of
trying to kludge softsqueeze with a soundcard  or trying to hack
transcoding filters to send output to a soundcard when I have sb3's.


Thanks,

 FL


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freelunch Wrote:
> >From what I've just read about the Transporter, it appears that it
> will support 24/96 playback. I am curious about the changes that are
> being made to the slimserver code to support that. Could those changes
> support 24/96 playback on the sb3?  How about 24/96 digital output
> from the sb3?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> FL

This is a hardware/firmware thing, not SlimServer. It's not that it
can't be done on SB3, but it would be a separate engineering effort due
to different hardware in Transporter to facilitate higher sample rates.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread chaz

One thing I'd love to see is video out for some sort of on screen
display.tucked in the rack with their metal mesh doors closed the
display on this might  be a bit hard to read...not a problem with
the SB3 since it just sits on top of the cabinet in plain site.  

Looks great though!


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Music Machine

Congrats SLIM DEVICES.  It certainly looks the part!

If the Transporter comes close to offering the same price/performance
ratio as it's predecessors it has the potential to be a roaring
success.

I have no issues personally with Slim Server (except album art sort,
and that's another topic), but the market for higher end stereo
products might not have the required geek quotient that the current
product enjoys.  SS needs work.

The Transporter is the next big step of the paradigm shift in the way
music lovers use music.

Go SD!


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread stuorguk

Looks great.  Bit too pricey for me :(  Would have been nice to have had
a wheel on the remote (like a mouse wheel).  Maybe Slim could develop a
new remote for new and exiting SB owners.

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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Nostromo

*drool* What a beauty! The designers did a great job! Unfortunately, its
way out of my price range. :( Any chance an upcoming Squeezbox 4 will
inherit some of this, like the new form factor, new remote?


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[slim] Re: 24/96 support and Transporter

2006-07-24 Thread seanadams

freelunch Wrote: 
> >From what I've just read about the Transporter, it appears that it
> will support 24/96 playback. I am curious about the changes that are
> being made to the slimserver code to support that. Could those changes
> support 24/96 playback on the sb3?  How about 24/96 digital output
> from the sb3?
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> FL

This is a hardware/firmware thing, not SlimServer. It's not that it
can't be done on SB3, but it would be a separate engineering effort due
to different hardware in Transporter to facilitate higher sample rates.


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[slim] Re: ? gapless playback of lame mp3s ?

2006-07-24 Thread radish

No, gapless playback is supported for wav, ogg and flac (and possibly
some others?) but not mp3. The link below goes to the enhancement
request to add gapless mp3 playback.

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1026


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Re: [slim] Transporter!

2006-07-24 Thread dean blackketter

This should be fixed now.

Thanks for your interest!

On Jul 24, 2006, at 4:19 PM, el payo wrote:



Holy cow. Kudos to SlimDevices. Transporter is HOT.

If the damn order page wasn't getting slammed right now I'd already
have bought one.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread tamanaco

NICE!... Congratulations Slim Devices. This is far beyond my WAF. I
would have a hell of a hard time convincing my wife to drop 2K for
something like this. I just got approval to spend 1.5K on a silent HTPC
with RAID to run Slimserver. No way! she'll fall for this... Well, maybe
if I show her the picture of this baby after mix a couple cocktails and
I vacuum the whole place... even under the furniture :-) 

Just a thought...
I still have to say that SD needs to work on the remote control. That's
one of the features that makes the Sonos so appealing. If Slim Devices
came up with a Wi-Fi remote with a graphic interface for the SB family
of players that could also act as Universal IR remote for all my other
AV components... I could convince the wife to allow me to drop another
$300. (I already have a $200 approval for a Harmony 880) I know that
remotes are  not SD's forte, but maybe if SD outsource the remote to a
3rd party. Or partnered with a company like Logitech (Harmony) to
provide a SB specific Universal remote similar to the one Logitec makes
for the Xbox. 
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[slim] 24/96 support and Transporter

2006-07-24 Thread Free Lunch

From what I've just read about the Transporter, it appears that it

will support 24/96 playback. I am curious about the changes that are
being made to the slimserver code to support that. Could those changes
support 24/96 playback on the sb3?  How about 24/96 digital output
from the sb3?


Thanks!

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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread twylie

For me, this is an easy decision (assuming it sounds as good as I expect
it to):

Step 1: order Transporter bundle = -$1999
Step 2: sell Balanced Theta Miles CDP = + $1000
Step 3: sell current wireless SB3  and linear power supply = + $250
Step 4: sell gratis SB3 = + $275

Final cost should be less than $500 for the upgrade.  I can easily get
that through "purchasing" since it will remove one piece of electronic
gear from the house!

Big thanks to Sean and gang for taking this chance and resetting the
bar once again.  

This will be my 8th slimdevices "device" (SliMP3, SB1G, SB2, 4*SB3
already in the house or on loan to friends/family) and i continue to
evangelize for you every chance I get.

-twylie


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[slim] ? gapless playback of lame mp3s ?

2006-07-24 Thread b6662966

hallo,
first off forgiving my english.
i am curious know, if slim device support playback of lame mp3 gapless
playback?
this fact is very important to me in gapless playback of lame mp3.
thank you.


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[slim] Re: random mix

2006-07-24 Thread Craig

Here's an old thread I started which tells you how to assign keys

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=16091

Craig


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread shabbs

LHawes Wrote: 
> I do not consider myself an audiophile, nor would anyone else, but I
> REALLY like the decision. To my mind it heralds a completely new
> paradigm in digital music presentation as did the SB1/2/3. I think
> there is no stopping the possibilities and hope that Slim Devices
> sucseed in their endeavor.
I agree. This device looks great and it sounds like it will address the
audiophile's needs out there with what they've put in the box. It's
beyond my price point but it sounds about right for the audiophile
niche market. Kudos to Slim Devices for listening to their fans and
delivering. Good luck with this product - we'll all be watching
closely. Hopefully this will help take Slim to yet another next level.

Is there anything out there that would compete with this product?

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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Michaelwagner

Mitch Harding Wrote: 
> It just makes me wish I had more money!  :)
Me too. Maybe groups of us can timeshare ...


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[slim] Re: Qnap TS-101 Update

2006-07-24 Thread pedalhead

All done, thanks.  Sorting a customer's problem at 12am is pretty
impressive customer service :-).


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread LHawes

I do not consider myself an audiophile, nor would anyone else, but I
REALLY like the decision. To my mind it heralds a completely new
paradigm in digital music presentation as did the SB1/2/3. I think
there is no stopping the possibilities and hope that Slim Devices
sucseed in their endeavor.

The price point is too high for my and any more music fidelity or
tranparency (a term of which I know nothing about) would be wasted on
my untrained ears. But for the audiophiles this tansporter could be a
boon if it hits the mark or a complete bust, if it does not.

If it only sounds 'really good' then those who would not pay the asking
price will never get to see if it fits their tastes and systems. If it
sounds 'audiophile excellent' then IMHO the game changes over night.

Then even those of us who don't think they will ever need such a device
now have a 'go to' device from a trusted company if we ever want to
pretend we're audiophiles.

Most of all I appreciate the cajones it takes to introduce such a
product.

Best of luck Slim Devices I will root for the transporter to be a
smashing success.


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[slim] Transporter!

2006-07-24 Thread el payo

Holy cow. Kudos to SlimDevices. Transporter is HOT.

If the damn order page wasn't getting slammed right now I'd already
have bought one.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread tomsi42

Mitch Harding Wrote: 
> Reading this makes me feel like I've been bashing the $1999 price.  I
> don't mean to. 
> 
My answer wasn't meant that way, so don't feel bad. 
Mitch Harding Wrote: 
> It does seem an appropriate price for what is being offered.  It
> just makes me wish I had more money!  :)
> 
There are a lot of us who wish that tonight!


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread awetmore

I like the form factor and the front panel buttons and knob.  I don't
need the three power supplies, gold plated circuit board, and other
audiophile features.  I wish there was a $400 version that looked
roughly like this with a knob and buttons and a single display.


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Re: [slim] Re: Hmmm....2nd thoughts on buying SB3

2006-07-24 Thread Mitch Harding
You won't regret it.  My SB2 is the best money I've ever spent.And hey, if you've got 2 grand lying around, you could order the new Transporter model.  :)On 7/24/06, 
b4lly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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[slim] Re: Hmmm....2nd thoughts on buying SB3

2006-07-24 Thread b4lly

Thankyou to everyone who bothered to comment on my thread. Looks like
I'll have to order one today at the latest!

And when my experience is great, I will be sure to post on this forum,
so others in my position get to read at least a little positive
feedback. Perhaps even a dedicated forum/thread would be cool.

Thanks again
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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread daniels5

Hi Ben, 

I suggest that we wait until we see all the Transporter can do before
discounting it out of hand.

I have long been a fan of Wadia Compact Disc Players and DACs because
of ALL that a Wadia does, and does right.  

I am currently using a Wadia 860x with Great Northern Sound Company
Reference Modifcations to directly feed my Electrocompaniet AW 220
Monoblocks (via the balanced outputs) and my Gallo Reference 3
Subwoofer Amplifier (via the RCA outputs).Many audiophiles with
systems two or three times as expensive are amazed by the transparency
and fidelity of the music presented in our living room.

We use the Wadia's Digital inputs to select one of my modded SB2 or my
DVD player or HDTV cable box as alternate sources.  

The Wadia 860x w/ GNSC Ref Mods retails for just under $10K (not  what
I paid of course.)  

The Wadia design eliminates my pre-amp and many expensive runs of
interconnects -- and radically improved the transparency and immediacy
of the music in our living room.  The investment made sense for us when
we added up what we saved and what we gained in the process.

Now it appears that the Slim Devices has taken several pages from the
Wadia design book.  It may be able to do all of this and more for just
under $2K.  

When we see what features and functions lay hidden beneath the aluminum
skin of the new SD Transporter we may be pleasantly surprised by the SD
Transporter's value for dollar.  

Clearly this is an entry level audiophile price point. If the design
and build are as clean and clever as Slim Devices previous generations
of Entry Level devices, the game of HiFi / Audiophile music and Network
Music Players may have just changed.  

Personally, I look forward to seeing how close the SD Transporter comes
to my Wadia 860x w/ GNSC Reference Mods, in features and in fidelity
when placed in our system here.

So far, both my Red Wine Audio and Bolder modded Squeezebox 2s are
quite good but not nearly as transparent as the Wadia 860x.

I look forward to seeing what we hear on September 18, 2006

/Daniel


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[slim] Re: Qnap TS-101 Update

2006-07-24 Thread pedalhead

Wow, thanks for the quick response.  I guess I should read the
instructions a bit better next time!  Will give it a go now, cheers.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread bklaas

Michaelwagner Wrote: 
> Your 2 year old likes Beck?
> 
> As in Jeff Beck?
> 
> Or is there another Beck that appeals to 2 year olds?

no no, the other Beck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck#Discography).
She literally goes nuts when Que Onda Guero comes over the squeezebox.


For the record, I do own several things that Jeff Beck plays on
(including the obscure Jeff Beck's Guitar Shop), but there's no way my
little one would be into it...

#!/ben


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[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?

2006-07-24 Thread Michaelwagner

Mid September, it seems.


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[slim] Re: [Fun] - Listening time with large collections

2006-07-24 Thread zooropa320

Mark Lanctot Wrote: 
> For example, aside from the rockin' 80s track -She Sells Sanctuary-,
> more recent releases from The Cult have been entirely unremarkable.

In that case you missed out on their spectacular 1989 release "Sonic
Temple".  I really liked "Beyond Good and Evil" from 2001 as well
although it is much heavier than their other albums (that's a good
thing, to me).


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[slim] Re: Qnap TS-101 Update

2006-07-24 Thread ultra238a

Hi,

You need to download the All-In-One Slimserver update via Opera or
Firefox (IE cuts off the .gz extension) once you have this installed
you can download the 6.3.1 update which just has the .tar file
extension.

To install the updates just download the files and reboot - don't
uncompress them first.

I am working on the documentation.

Thanks

pedalhead Wrote: 
> Hi @.  Just received a SB3 & Qnap 101 today & I'm pretty impressed so
> far.  Stupid question though, how do I get the updates to work on the
> Qnap?  I've tried putting both the .tar and the extracted file (not
> sure which is correct) of the 6.3.1 update in the "update" folder and
> rebooted the box, but my Slimserver version is still 6.2.2.
> 
> Overall, it seems like it could be a really good solution, but the lack
> of clear documentation for the Qnap with Slimserver is a bit of an issue
> right now I reckon.  Cheers.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread dangerous_dom

bklaas Wrote: 
>  SqueezeBoomBox-- I'd preorder it today. Affordable SB4 with onboard
> "knob"--that at least makes my immediate wish list. But an audiophile
> product at that price point? Unless I get one gratis, count me way,
> way, way out. I couldn't give two licks about gold-plated circuit
> boards.

I agree 101% I want a SqueezeBoomBox yesterday.

I don't know where Slimdevices are going with this, but i hope they do
well. What i really hope is going on here, and i suspect it is, is that
thing is the start of Slim Devices broadening their product range. Often
companies annouce there most expensive flagship product first. Slim
Devices obviously listened to the community begging for a more
audiophile solution and thats partly where the Transporter has come
from.

Many people are asking for a boombox/radio type device and i think it
would be the next logical step now, apart from maybe a device like the
Tranporter - same kind of form factor but with a price and spec closer
to the SB3. I am sure they would ship huge numbers. I would be very
interested to know why exactly the other $1700 over the SB3 is going
on. Is it just the super DAC (and a few other tweaks)?  

I have no doubt there is a market for thins, but i think it's
relitively small. Maybe thats that the expense is about? But one thing
is for sure; they will really have to sort out SlimServer. I love it,
but it has faults and bugs. Those bugs are annoying with the SB3, but
if i had forked out $2000 (plus the other few grand for app/speakers to
do it justice) i would be more than annoyed, i would be going absolutly
nuts.

One other thing, it would have been nice if the dedicated slim devices
community could have has a heads-up first.

Lastly, i think the name 'Transporter' is a bit on the dull side
compared to the lovely 'Squeezebox', but then so are the kind of
uber-audiophiles that would be interested buying one...




Just teasing!

/runs




PS, good luck Slim Devices! This is the kind of product that can make
or break a company. I hope you know what you are doing :)


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread jsnicholas

I have not seen or heard anything about how the S/W functionality
compairs to the SB3.  I was hoping this new box would handle WMA
lossless natively and not have to have it transcoded before streaming. 
The reason is that my music collection resided on a Infrant NAS that can
run slimserver, but can not transcode WMA lossless.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread seanadams

Michaelwagner Wrote: 
> OK, I get it that there are digital inputs, in case you want to use the
> DAC in the Transporter.
> 
> But what's the XLR input connector doing there? XLR is analogue ...
> 

The XLR input is for AES/EBU. It's very similar to S/PDIF but uses a
higher voltage, balanced signal, for professional setups and
long-distance runs.

> And what are the two unlabelled BNC connectors for?

Those are also S/PDIF. Your choice of capacitor-coupled RCA (like
Squeezebox and most other equipment) or the professional
transformer-coupled BNC. 

The BNC is often preferred for its locking action and controlled
impedance.


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[slim] Re: 6.3.0: Many Duplicate Albums Listed (as well as duped New Music, Album Art, etc)

2006-07-24 Thread ChrisOwens

No apology necessary.  It's a strange job, in that many customers know
Slimserver (or at least some parts of it) better than I do, still. 
It's an extremely complex application, with a lot of years of added
features.

I take the criticism as constructively as possible.  When you're
selling to end-users, customer satisfaction is the primary measure of
quality.


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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Mitch Harding
Reading this makes me feel like I've been bashing the $1999 price.  I don't mean to.  It does seem an appropriate price for what is being offered.  It just makes me wish I had more money!  :)
On 7/24/06, tomsi42 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But there are always room for improvements, and that gets expensivefast. This unit has balanced outputs, world clock input, clean powersupply and more. Stuff that the audiophiles have been pining for inthis forum. The price seems right to me.
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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread tomsi42

Robert_W Wrote: 
> I'm curious as to the target audience for this new "SB4" if you will. If
> it is for real just how many people are there that would actually buy
> one? I mean I'm totally happy with the sound quality now from my SB3
> and can't imagine it getting much better. Not $1700 + better anyway. I
> guess there's a market for everything though when it comes to "high
> end" audio. We all like our toys!

Having listened to my SB3 with some high end Electrocompaniet kit, I
will agree that it is good (I used a linear PSU), especially at the
price. 

But there are always room for improvements, and that gets expensive
fast. This unit has balanced outputs, world clock input, clean power
supply and more. Stuff that the audiophiles have been pining for in
this forum. The price seems right to me.

I want one - so I have to start saving ;)


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[slim] Re: Qnap TS-101 Update

2006-07-24 Thread pedalhead

Hi @.  Just received a SB3 & Qnap 101 today & I'm pretty impressed so
far.  Stupid question though, how do I get the updates to work on the
Qnap?  I've tried putting both the .tar and the extracted file (not
sure which is correct) of the 6.3.1 update in the "update" folder and
rebooted the box, but my Slimserver version is still 6.2.2.

Overall, it seems like it could be a really good solution, but the lack
of clear documentation for the Qnap with Slimserver is a bit of an issue
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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Michaelwagner

bklaas Wrote: 
> Me, I'm just happy if I can hear the tunez over my 2-year-old screaming
> at me to play more Beck.
Your 2 year old likes Beck?

As in Jeff Beck?

Or is there another Beck that appeals to 2 year olds?


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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Jacob Potter

On 7/24/06, Michaelwagner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

At 6:20PM EDT, it's on the Slim web site in all it's glory.

And it has a *knob*!


And RS-232 hmm. Wonder if it would be possible to hack RS232 into an SB2 :)

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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Mitch Harding
Yes,  but as there's no option to just buy the transporter (yet?), the effective price is still $1999 unless you were already planning to buy a SB3.I guess the 30 day guarantee is still in effect, so if you buy a transporter and don't feel it's worth the $1700 extra cost, then you can always return it.
I'm excited to see the new product, but I'm pretty sure I won't be purchasing one at that price, unless I get lucky in the lottery in the near future (and I'd have to be extremely lucky since I don't even purchase lottery tickets).
On 7/24/06, Michaelwagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread davep

Well, having 4 SBs in the house already, I sure don't need another one
if my intention is to replace my current music room SB3 with a
Transporter for serious listening - I would then have two SB3s to find
a home for.  Also, the "SB3 now" part of the deal is at list price, so
I am not seeing the point of this as I don't even save anything.  All I
can see is that it would get me on a waiting list for an early delivery
once the mid September shipping starts.

davep


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread seanadams

Michaelwagner Wrote: 
> The price would appear to be $1700. The $1999 "bundle" comes with an SB3
> now, billed to your card now, for $299, and a "transporter" in Sept for
> $1700.

Correct - this is a discount/bonus for those who pre-order. SRP is
$1999.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread funkstar

bklaas Wrote: 
> I will say that it looks beautiful ...
indeed it does. Very impressed with the inductrial design, the dual VFD
displays is amazing :)


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Michaelwagner

OK, I get it that there are digital inputs, in case you want to use the
DAC in the Transporter.

But what's the XLR input connector doing there? XLR is analogue ...

And what are the two unlabelled BNC connectors for?


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread bklaas

Me and every other former Audiotron owner will undoubtedly be feeling
warm and fuzzy about the addition of the *knob*, which I see as a
validation of our repeated pleas. I wish I could be excited about the
rest of it...

I will say that it looks beautiful and is sure to be a welcome addition
in the immaculate high-end living rooms of the audiophile elite. Me, I'm
just happy if I can hear the tunez over my 2-year-old screaming at me to
play more Beck.

keeping my fingers crossed for the eventual launch of the
SqueezeBoomBox,
#!/ben


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread jbm0

bklaas Wrote: 
> Though I've been a huge Slim fan for years now, I gotta be honest, I'm
> deflated. SqueezeBoomBox-- I'd preorder it today. Affordable SB4 with
> onboard "knob"--that at least makes my immediate wish list. But an
> audiophile product at that price point? Unless I get one gratis, count
> me way, way, way out. #!/ben
Well... it all depends on how it sounds, really.

Fancy replacement power supplies and mods, plus one stock SB3 as parts,
don't add up to that much less than this box, and it's an inconvenient
pain in the behind to do all the separate ordering and trans-shipping
-- not to mention that the cramped quarters and tight board design of
the existing little SBs reportedly set some limits on how good the
resulting device can possibly sound.

For me, it all comes down to the execution.  If Sean and chums have
indeed gotten this thing really right, I'll need to start saving my
pennies -- even though a lot of their effort has apparently gone into
the D/A and analog section, and I'm primarily interested in the
cleanest AES/EBU or S/PDIF (kudos for the apparent BNCs, dudes!)
digital output I can get my hands on.

You see, I've drunk heavily of the SlimServer Kool-Aid, and believe
that one's music archive really needs to be stored on normal computer
hardware, for ease of expanding storage and because tested backup
strategies exist, not in some proprietary box made by an audio company.
It then comes down to just the best possible interface for getting the
music from the network into the stereo.  If they've managed a real
improvement in that interface's audiophilic qualities, they've got my
interest.

Oh, and the commercial-building background-sound market is used to
paying this sort of price for a tough, high-quality device in this
formfactor -- look at some of the Sirius/XM receivers for that niche.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Michaelwagner

The price would appear to be $1700. The $1999 "bundle" comes with an SB3
now, billed to your card now, for $299, and a "transporter" in Sept for
$1700.


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[slim] Re: FLAC to MP3?

2006-07-24 Thread funkstar

Larry Truesdale Wrote: 
> I've tagged thousands of files with no rpoblems so far, but configuring
> it can be complex.  Did it merge artist and album on all the files you
> transcoded?
no. for some reason it managed fine on most of them, but botched about
a third. This was out of about 850 albums


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Michaelwagner

bklaas Wrote: 
> considering there is absolutely no mention of The Transporter on
> slimdevices.com, 
At 6:20PM EDT, it's on the Slim web site in all it's glory.

And it has a *knob*!


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Robert_W

I'm curious as to the target audience for this new "SB4" if you will. If
it is for real just how many people are there that would actually buy
one? I mean I'm totally happy with the sound quality now from my SB3
and can't imagine it getting much better. Not $1700 + better anyway. I
guess there's a market for everything though when it comes to "high
end" audio. We all like our toys!


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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Mitch Harding
Yeah -- there is definitely demand for this product.  And I have to admit, although I am a fan of the current SB look, I think this new product looks pretty slick itself.  It definitely has the audio component look that some people have been clamoring for.
On 7/24/06, Pat Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mitch Harding wrote:> thing that concerns me -- I'm having a hard time justifying this as a> $2000 purchase.  Even the $1100 price scares me.  :)  I think this has> officially ruled me out as an audiophile.
You bet, of course, listening to anything by vinyl starts excluding you,as does paying less than $1000 for cables. :-)But if you search the archives, there are zillions of folks whowant a SqueezeBox with more of an audiophile look or formfactor.
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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Pat Farrell

Mitch Harding wrote:
thing that concerns me -- I'm having a hard time justifying this as a 
$2000 purchase.  Even the $1100 price scares me.  :)  I think this has 
officially ruled me out as an audiophile. 


You bet, of course, listening to anything by vinyl starts excluding you,
as does paying less than $1000 for cables. :-)

But if you search the archives, there are zillions of folks who
want a SqueezeBox with more of an audiophile look or formfactor.

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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Mitch Harding
While I do agree that having a SqueezeBoomBox would be great, I'm also somewhat excited about this new product.  The price point is the only thing that concerns me -- I'm having a hard time justifying this as a $2000 purchase.  Even the $1100 price scares me.  :)  I think this has officially ruled me out as an audiophile.  Part of me is hoping that both sites are off on the price -- if it was under $1000, then I'd have to start counting my pennies.
On 7/24/06, bklaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Okay, so it kind of looks like this thing's for real.Though I've been a huge Slim fan for years now, I gotta be honest, I'm
deflated. SqueezeBoomBox-- I'd preorder it today. Affordable SB4 withonboard "knob"--that at least makes my immediate wish list. But anaudiophile product at that price point? Unless I get one gratis, count
me way, way, way out. I couldn't give two licks about gold-platedcircuit boards.#!/ben--bklaas"the Nokia770 skin guy"
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[slim] Re: 6.3.0: Many Duplicate Albums Listed (as well as duped New Music, Album Art, etc)

2006-07-24 Thread fairyliquidizer

ModelCitizen Wrote: 
> Well there isn't one and as 6.5 is coming along nicely and most of the
> developers are working on that there is probably little point in
> mentioning the issue again

ModelCitizen,

This issue may not trouble you but I like to keep my tags as slim a 
possible and would rather it was fixed sooner and 6.5 took longer. 
Especially as changing my tags will trigger my incremental backup to
add a new increment which will be rather large as I have a large FLAC
collection.

ChrisOwens,

Thanks for the courteous reply.  Sorry if I seemed hostile , I was
tired when I upgraded and didn't welcome the hassle.

Best of luck with the job and remember to enjoy it.  Life's a game and
there's no extra time.

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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread bklaas

Okay, so it kind of looks like this thing's for real.

Though I've been a huge Slim fan for years now, I gotta be honest, I'm
deflated. SqueezeBoomBox-- I'd preorder it today. Affordable SB4 with
onboard "knob"--that at least makes my immediate wish list. But an
audiophile product at that price point? Unless I get one gratis, count
me way, way, way out. I couldn't give two licks about gold-plated
circuit boards.

#!/ben


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[slim] Re: Various artists - multiple entires for same disc

2006-07-24 Thread fairyliquidizer

glad things are working. Things went a bit nuts on my machine.  No idea
why but Slimserver started hogging the cpu even after a reboot.

So I had to delete everything and reinstall.  I'm running without using
MMM for now.  I'll either do the tag trick or I might wait until they
fix it.

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Re: [slim] Re: random mix

2006-07-24 Thread Marc Sherman
dip wrote:
> When I use Random Album Mix, is there a way to jump from the currently
> played (random) album to the next random album without jumping through
> all songs of the current album? Sometimes I don't like the current
> album and I want to go fast to the next random album. I don't find a
> key on the remote to which this function is assigned.

If you have Random Album on a remote key, just press it again to choose
a new random album.

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[slim] Re: random mix

2006-07-24 Thread dip

When I use Random Album Mix, is there a way to jump from the currently
played (random) album to the next random album without jumping through
all songs of the current album? Sometimes I don't like the current
album and I want to go fast to the next random album. I don't find a
key on the remote to which this function is assigned.


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Re: [slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Mitch Harding
The Audioholics press release has it at $1999:http://www.audioholics.com/news/pressreleases/SlimDevicesTransporter.phpMaybe they meant $19.99.
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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread radish

This link from audioholics
http://www.audioholics.com/news/pressreleases/SlimDevicesTransporter.php
(seems to be breaking the release date of tomorrow)  that Phil posted in
the Audiophile forum mentioned a price of $2k.


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[slim] Re: Qnap TS-101 Update

2006-07-24 Thread Paul_B

Excellent work Paul keep it coming. I just love this suite of products


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread Mark Lanctot

radish Wrote: 
> Yes it is :
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=115979&postcount=34
> 
> Search for "transporter" in all forums and you'll see the post and some
> replies in that thread.

Ah yes.  Missed that.


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[slim] Re: New Slim Devices Product? "The Transporter" per 6moons.com??

2006-07-24 Thread radish

Mark Lanctot Wrote: 
> Edit: You're right, I'm sure it was in that thread, but interestingly
> the post is definitely not there right now!
Yes it is :
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=115979&postcount=34

Search for "transporter" in all forums and you'll see the post and some
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