[slim] Re: Fishbone - the root of all evil?
My system works perfectly with Fishbone, doing just as you have mentioned. Were your clean installs totally clean? Deleting everything? Over the past year I have had several instances of hangovers from previous versions. In each case the biggest problem was with the skins. A delete everything, clean install fixed the problems every time. -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31415 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Fishbone - the root of all evil?
Have you cleared your browser cache? -- Ningj Ningj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7256 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31415 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Introducing..... me!
On 05/01/07, JimC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To that end, I would absolutely love to hear from the community about what you think is great about Slim Devices/Squeezebox/Transporter and about what we can do to make them better. I plan to bring in additional resources to help expand the community here, as well as promote our third-party developers and plug-ins as a key value-add for our products. It would be great to hear what YOU see as how we can best implement that, as well. Hi Jim, welcome, etc.. One very simple thing I've often thought would be a great idea would be a dedicated forum for frontends.. There are loads of web-skins now, and an increasing number of software-based front-ends, so I guess there'd be traffic, and it might help ease the plugins forum traffic a touch. -- - Dr Lovegrove Grab Moose (windows frontend for Slimserver) at: http://www.rusticrhino.com/drlovegrove ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
Improvements I'd like revolve around: 1) I managed to get Slimserver running fine, but I'm a techie. I agree with others who ask for a more automated method for installation. Test it on someone who just about knows what an mp3 file is and see how they get on. Many problems resolved around plugins, and non-recovery from crashes. Ways to make Slimserver restart itself automatically after a crashshould be offered in the interface, or on installation. That would prevent much anguished running up and dopwn stairs to restart it. 2) A plugin manager. I've had many experiences of Slimserver crashing, and ages trying to make plugins work. A plugin manager that allows you to install plugins from a list if they're compatible with yoru Slimserver version, and lets you know which installed plugins are not compatible would be good. 3)An off switch on the Squeezebox. When I'm not listening to it (at least 90% of the time) I want it turned off consuming zero watts of power. I do not want it on with a screensaver, or even on with a blank screen. Homeplug/powerline often works much more easily than wireless - I'd suggest making more of that as a fix for people with wireless problems. A homeplug squeezebox? I guess that's asking too much! -- mecouc mecouc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=227 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 sudden reset...
I updated to the nightly release on Friday (Server and Firmware) and my SB3 reset itself 3 times in a 12 hour period. No problems prior to that. -- Dave Bird Dave Bird's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3251 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31397 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
It doesn't really matter which you buy. Sure, some brands may be more likely to fail than others, but the relative reliability of brands will change from one month to the next. There's an old saying: -There are two types of people: those who do regular backups, and those who have never had a hard drive failure-. Guess which one I am!? ;-) All irreplacable data is backed up nightly to 'rsync.net' by -cron-. (I thoroughly recommend 'rsync.net', by the way!) The hundred-or-so gigs of flacs (when they've all been ripped) will be rsync'd to a spare drive via USB every month or so. (Of course, Sod's Law says decrees that I haven't had a failure in ten years, since I started preforming backups religiously!) -- mflint mflint's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2102 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
EnochLight;167589 Wrote: Hi Jim! I picked up my Squeezebox about a year ago and haven't looked back, but I must agree - the need for a Harmony-type remote with native Slimserver support, along with some sort of 2-way communication is absolutely key to Squeezebox's expansion and success. The biggest complaint I have is the anemic remote that comes with the Squeezebox and the need for me to have a computer running just to access a GUI-type interface. That's one area where the Sonos wins hands down. Cheers! Agree, agree, agree!!! I'm one of those people who stuff their A/V gear into a closet and (today) runs everything from an RF-equipped remote. Actually, my wife prefers it that way, and come to think of it, I do too. Now it's certainly within Logitech's power to market a WiFi remote with a UI and navigation controls optimized for accessing and managing large, complex music (or media) libraries. Even an Ajax web interface isn't enough (if Apple had relied on that running its iPod devices, it would have failed miserably). For me, a simple (think iPod, Zen, Sansa, etc. -- and a small screen is essential) portable remote control that lets me queue up music, playlists, change from stored to Internet radio, etc., would be a profoundly great thing. My $.02. -- Balthazar_B Balthazar_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7366 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
All irreplacable data is backed up nightly to 'rsync.net' by -cron-. (I thoroughly recommend 'rsync.net', by the way!) Wow. That's exactly the type of service I've recently (and unsuccessfully) been looking for. Thanks for the pointer. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
Gary_W;167799 Wrote: This means I have 500 odd albums ripped as MP3 and another 150 or so ripped as FLAC. All the FLACs have MP3 duplicates so I can listen to them on the iPod. I want Slimserver to ONLY play the best quality of song it can, so if there is a FLAC version I don't want it to bother with the MP3. At the moment, it causes a terrible amount of faffing around that I still haven't really got to grips with. The web interface isn't so good. Gary Echo the above point. I don't have an iPod but do have lots of MP3's. Since getting the Transporter I have re-ripped all CD's to FLAC (about 7000 files or so). So I have MP3s and FLACs of the same CD. I also have a lot of MP3s with no corresponding FLAC. If I could mix in same library but have Slimserver automatically select the FLAC when there is a choice, that would be great. Yes, I've tried Duplicate MP3 Finder that allows duplicate MP3s and FLACs to be found, but as Gary mentions, gets you into the faffing around zone. A put-off for folks that don't like 'faffing around' with databases etc.. The web interface is too geeky. Ok for me, but not for my wife (who also likes music). Also my computer is in another room, so selecting there when sound system is elsewhere is a pain. This should be an easy fix/addon I would have thought would improve the marketability no end. Maybe been mentioned before, but would be nice to have a headphone version. ie minaturised battery powered SB3 embedded in a headphone. Dan -- chinablues chinablues's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Sb1 not connecting
I'm having trouble with my sb1 not connecting in the morning. I recently changed my router from a netgear dg814 to a netgear dg834g, I needed wireless for a new laptop. The sb1 is wire connected. The main difference is the router remains on all the time now, previously I switched it off at night. On start up of the server the sb remains off but if I power cycle it it connects and plays fine. I have reinstalled the server. I have tried setting each computer in the house with static ip's leaving a space for the squeezebox. No luck. I'm using 6.5.0, Mac os 10.4.8 Ports 9000,9090 and 3483 tcp/udp on the routers and computers firewalls are open for 192.168.0.2 (the servers address). Routers firmware is up to date. I'm assuming it's the router at fault, I didn't have much trouble with the previous one. Can a static ip be assigned on a sb1 rather than using dhcp? I can reserve an address on the router if this can be done. Any ideas? -- Steven Moore Steven Moore's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31423 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
$1.80 per GB per month? It would only cost about $450 per month to back up my music library. I could buy another HDD for for the first month's payment and forego all the future monthly payments. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
tyler_durden wrote: $1.80 per GB per month? It would only cost about $450 per month to back up my music library. I could buy another HDD for for the first month's payment and forego all the future monthly payments. It is expensive, but there's a lot more to offsite backups than just buying a second hard drive. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
It is expensive, but there's a lot more to offsite backups than just buying a second hard drive. In fact I was considering setting up a box at my hosting services' facility and share it with my family and friends. Recently I got more and more requests from them on how to handle backups of their data - some of it professional, some private (digicam anyone?). I'll end up with a small box at the office's false bottom - much cheaper :-) -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
I'm happy with my 770. (I wonder how long that'll last ... ) -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
Official Nokia information: www.nseries.com/n800 -- sbjaerum sbjaerum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
The official Nokia flash thingy didn't really show anything that the 770 can't do. My guess is that it would require a hands-on to really get a feel for whether big improvements had been made performance-wise. Screen res is the same, and Opera 8 is still the browser (the OS package in its entirety is likely to be the same), so the Nokia770 skin will work the same on this device. So, digest of improvements: 2 memory card slots, and they are SD instead of RS-MMC. Some users report success with 4GB SD cards. That's fantastic--it means you could beef it up to 8GB of storage, making it worthy of both PMP and/or decent mp3 storage. I use my 770 on trips to store and watch videos (it works *great* for this, although you have to reformat the video to a res the 770 can handle). The 770 supports a 1GB RS-MMC card, which gives me about 5 hours of content. I'd love to boost that by 8x. Integrated webcam. Kind of cool, but I can't imagine I'd have much use of this. To video conference with all my friends with N800s? Unlikely. I don't want them to see me pickin' goobers anyway. Increased CPU, from 220 to 320Mhz. This may be nice, but I think the real performance upgrades on this platform needed are in WiFi and battery life. Increased on-board flash memory from 128 to 256. That was definitely needed. Built-in stereo speakers, replacing built-in mono of 770. This one also matters naught to me--if you want to hear decent audio on this platform you need headphones plugged in. Built-in kickstand. This probably costs Nokia next to nothing in cost, but it's probably the feature upgrade I'm most pleased to see. Sometimes it's the little things that make the biggest difference. Nice to see Nokia continuing to develop on this platform. I don't really get a clear vision of how well the internet tablet thing is going for them-- there are still a lot of people porting open source stuff on to maemo.org, but I've quit looking at the main forum for 770 users, internettablettalk, because it's largely garbage and doesn't have the kind of interesting discussions you'd hope (compared to this forum, which is wildly successful, if a little contentious lately). I'm certainly not going to be rushing out to purchase one of these, but if one landed in my lap I'd be pretty psyched. cheers, #!/ben -- bklaas the Nokia770 skin guy bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] IR Blaster - Basic Question
Does the IR blaster allow me to change the input/channel on my amp as well as control volume? I'd like to be able to leave the amp powered on and on the 'TV/DVD' input until I turn on the SB3, and then it switches to AUX input (for the SB) and returns to TV/DVD when the SB is turned off. Any help much appreciated. -- mister_t mister_t's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31425 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
I would love to see the page but arghh!, Flash7. Logitech should make one of these things, but I guess it's a PC moreso than peripheral. I bought my girlfriend a 32 LCD HDTV with tuner for $500, so there's a margin to be made :-) -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
Skunk;168235 Wrote: I would love to see the page but arghh!, Flash7. Skunk-- that statement makes me think you are a linux guy. You might want to check out the Flash 9 beta that's now available for linux-- http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/ I had to jump through some ugly hoops to make this work on my Gentoo system, but it should probably work well on a more widespread Linux distro like Fedora/SuSe/Ubuntu. cheers, #!/ben -- bklaas the Nokia770 skin guy bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Nokia N800
Skunk wrote: I would love to see the page but arghh!, Flash7. Yeah, me too. R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Password control
Hi, I currently use password protection on my slimserver instance so that there is some control over access over the internet (using port forwarding 80-9000 on the DSL modem). For obvious reasons I want to keep this in place. Is there a way to turn off password protection for IP addresses within my local subnet at home? I'm currently running a relatively recent nightly version of 6.5.1 (mid-Dec 06). Thanks, Liam -- liamg liamg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=279 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31426 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
bklaas;168236 Wrote: Skunk-- that statement makes me think you are a linux guy. Thanks Ben, I actually use windoze. It wouldn't load for me initially so I searched the Web and saw someone blogging that they couldn't see the site on their Nokia due to Flash7. It loaded last time w/ the same link, where it was freezing mozilla before, so either the server was busy or Flash loaded itself into my browser. This is the link that ended up showing up http://web.nseries.com/products/n800/#l=products,n800 -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: IR Blaster - Basic Question
Yes, it can do that. -- byKnight Really, it was like that when I got here. byKnight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7011 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31425 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] PDA remote for SB3 rather than Slim Server?
Hi, I am getting pretty close to ordering some SB3s but have a question regarding remote controls. I have looked at the various threads concerning PDAs and either Michael Hergers or TelCantos software. These interact directly with Slim Server so am I correct in assuming that they are only controlling the output from the PC? What I am looking for is the ability to browse my music library with the PDA and have my selection played from the SB3 in that room only. Cheers! -- Countryman Countryman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8458 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31428 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Fishbone - the root of all evil?
in the case of ANY server crash, the discussion goes nowhere until someone can post the message from the event viewer or log related to the crash. btw - the subject line just about had me refuse to offer help on this. no need to always open with insults people. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
Regarding HDs of different ilks. They're all very reliable. They all break. Take your pick. Keep two sets of everything on different drives. Replace your drives every two or three years. You can't do a whole heck of a lot more than that. -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: PDA remote for SB3 rather than Slim Server?
I couldn't get the TelCanto software to run on my PDA (Windows Mobile 2005) and don't like Java, but I'm interested in other possible solutions as well. About your question: interacting with Slimserver can control the output of every Squeezebox attached. You could install Slimserver and use Softsqueeze (a software player that acts as if it would be a real Squeezebox) to test how the web interface controls a player. -- CCRDude CCRDude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8478 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31428 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Sliserver - PerlTray
Can someone help me?
I'm trying to make a SystemTray application with slimserver and the
PerlTray tool (ActivateState). the problem is that the application runs
in the background but the icon doesn't appear in the SystemTray area.
The code for this is so simple, that it should works, but it doesn't.
use PerlTray;
sub PopupMenu {
return [[ActiveState, Execute 'http://www.ActiveState.com'],
[Exit, exit],
];
}
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Saprissa!
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[slim] Re: IR Blaster - Basic Question
Excellent. Thank you! I don't suppose anyone knows where to get one in the UK, do they? -- mister_t mister_t's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31425 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA remote for SB3 rather than Slim Server?
These interact directly with Slim Server so am I correct in assuming that they are only controlling the output from the PC? SlimRemote can control any player connected to the slimserver. You can even sync them if you want. What I am looking for is the ability to browse my music library with the PDA and have my selection played from the SB3 in that room only. That's exactly SlimRemote's purpose. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: PDA remote for SB3 rather than Slim Server?
I couldn't get the TelCanto software to run on my PDA (Windows Mobile 2005) and don't like Java, but I'm interested in other possible solutions as well. There's no java involved, is there? The fact that there is a version running with a Java runtime doesn't mean it's developped in java ;-). SlimRemote is available as a 1MB Windows binary. And why would you, from a user's point of view, care whether it's Java or not? (I'm really interested in this question: what makes _users_ think Java was no good?) -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: PDA remote for SB3 rather than Slim Server?
CCRDude;168249 Wrote: About your question: interacting with Slimserver can control the output of every Squeezebox attached. You could install Slimserver and use Softsqueeze (a software player that acts as if it would be a real Squeezebox) to test how the web interface controls a player. Hi CCRDude, I hope that I am understanding you correctly! I can understand how you can control the output of every Squeezebox. I only want to control one, i.e. the one in the same room as me. I have Softsqueeze installed, but you can only run one instance of it at any one time. I guess my real question is how does the software know which SB3 to control? If I set up an IR connection with one SB3 can I use the PDA as a normal remote but with the Album art displayed? (This is how I tend to browse my music collection using my current set up using Foobar2000.) Brian -- Countryman Countryman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8458 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31428 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: PDA remote for SB3 rather than Slim Server?
@Countryman: I know only about the default skin, but there, the right half of the browser window is dedicated to the player, and it has a pulldown list to select the player you want to control. Couldn't be simpler :) Did a Google images search and found a screenshot: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/slimserver.png See the box showing Lounge in the upper right corner showing which one it would control. @mherger: I'm a user, but I'm also a developer ;) And as that, I've used nearly a dozen languages now, and Java is still one of the worst. May be coming from the slow speed in its early days or whatever - when I first played around with VB, I thought there could be nothing more slow - and then came Java ;) And even if its just runtime... well then its interpreted code, not native code, and that means its slower than necessary ;) Still, on a small device, it imho matters to users as well. A language that knows no destructors is an absolute NO for me on a device that doesn't have a lot of memory. And why I think Java would be involved is that I found a Java and an Ewe version of your page(I was looking for a version to run on my PocketPC), and even for Ewe, you wrote Ewe is a programming system that allows you to write applications, using Java. Did I misunderstand that? If so, I'll gladly give it another try :=) -- CCRDude CCRDude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8478 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31428 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sliserver - PerlTray
Quoting lampis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
use PerlTray;
sub PopupMenu {
return [[ActiveState, Execute 'http://www.ActiveState.com'],
[Exit, exit],
];
}
from just this, looks as if nothing is calling PopupMenu in order to
execute what you want. Try adding:
---
PopupMenu();
1;
---
at the end of your code.
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Re: [slim] Sliserver - PerlTray
Also, run the script from an open command prompt so that you can see any errors that come up. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: PDA remote for SB3 rather than Slim Server?
CCRDude;168269 Wrote: @Countryman: I know only about the default skin, but there, the right half of the browser window is dedicated to the player, and it has a pulldown list to select the player you want to control. Couldn't be simpler :) Did a Google images search and found a screenshot: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/slimserver.png See the box showing Lounge in the upper right corner showing which one it would control. CCRDude, Many thanks, all is clear now! Because I dont own any physical SBs yet, my instance of SlimServer did not have the all important pulldown list. The picture makes it all clear. Thanks again. -- Countryman Countryman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8458 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31428 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Another new music site supporting DRM
Sonos will apparently support 'Microsoft DRMd music' (http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/01/08/sonos-now-plays-microsoft-drmd-songs/) - not that I would buy *EVIL* music files. -- TCM http://www.last.fm/user/ThisCharmingMan/ TCM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18177 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: IR Blaster - Basic Question
mister_t;168258 Wrote: Excellent. Thank you! I don't suppose anyone knows where to get one in the UK, do they? what stereo do you have? -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31425 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Gaps between songs in 6.5.1
I recently upgraded to 6.5.1 (nightly build) to be able to use the iTunes update plug-in. Since the upgrade, I've noticed that songs seems to start with no gap between them which I don't think was the case on the official 6.5.0. I've confirmed that my Crossfade settings haven't changed and I can't find any other config setting to adjust this inter-song gap. Is this a change in 6.5.1 and if so is there a way to configure a gap between songs? -- oriordan oriordan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3698 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31433 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox v3 (wired) - no display or ethernet connection
Hi, My squeezebox has worked completely fine for a year hwever earlier today it jumped off of the shelf it was on and its taken a knock - since that point there is still power (i can tell that from the optical slot glowing) but I can't get the display to work and if I plug it directly into my pc rather than the network windows tells me that the cable is unplugged or that I have limited or no connectivity. I've also tried all procedures for resetting and/or restarting the box and nothing gives me a response. Can someone tell me a) is this an irrepairable hardware problem b) If it is repairable how can I do it? anyone that can help would be massively appreciated... Thanks Matt -- dr_fozz dr_fozz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9501 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Gaps between songs in 6.5.1
Gapless playback is a requested feature that's been implemented in 6.5.1 There should be a gap between songs that were not gapless on the CD although it may be shorter than on the original CD. Since I have x-fading enabled, I don't know what the default gap is. -- oreillymj oreillymj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=699 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31433 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Fishbone - the root of all evil?
I also had problems with Fishbone on 6.5. It made SlimServer crash every time. I never figured it out either. -- ezkcdude DIY projects page: http://www.ezdiyaudio.com System: SB3-EZDAC-MIT Terminator 2 interconnects-Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)-Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier-Speltz anti-cables-DIY 2-ways + Dayton Titanic 10 subwoofer He's not hi-fi, he's my stereo. ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31415 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
tyler_durden;168214 Wrote: $1.80 per GB per month? It would only cost about $450 per month to back up my music library. I could buy two or three HDDs for for the first month's payment and forego all the future monthly payments. Now I see- for 250 GB it would be 40% off. I'm still out $270 per month. Hm. No thanks! TD Whoa, no-one was suggesting you backup all your flacs over t'internet - hence my backup everything irreplaceable to rsync.net, flacs to an external USB disk. By irreplaceable, I'm thinking of pictures from the digital camera, etc... Meanwhile, back on topic...! ;-) -- mflint mflint's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2102 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Fishbone - the root of all evil?
Quoting ezkcdude [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I also had problems with Fishbone on 6.5. It made SlimServer crash every time. I never figured it out either. and again...event viewer or log information please. It is also recommended that for any issue, try the latest of the 6.5.1 nightlies, as many problems have been corrected already. For the best results, uninstall previous versions and erase all contents of the c:\program files\slimserver folder (or whereever you have slimserver installed). Save the slimserver.pref file if you wish to keep your preferences across installs. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Browse By Artists Shows Multiple Artists
Hi all, I've been trying to supress the display of multiple artists in my artist list. For instance, I currently see... * Adam Duritz * Adam Duritz/Ben Mize/Charlie Gillingham/Dan Vickrey/David Bryson/Matt Malley * Adam Duritz/Charlie Gillingham/Counting Crows * Adam Duritz/Charlie Gillingham/Counting Crows/Dan Vickrey * Ben Mize * Charlie Gillingham * Counting Crows * Dan Vickrey * David Bryson * Matt Malley And I only want to see the individual artists: * Adam Duritz * Ben Mize * Charlie Gillingham * Counting Crows * Dan Vickrey * David Bryson * Matt Malley Changing the Multiple Items in Tags options seems to have no effect, so I assume that the database uses that setting to parse the tags, but doesn't prevent SlimServer from listing all the various combinations. Is there a setting to do what I want? Thanks! Tony -- lbeefus lbeefus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31437 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Browse By Artists Shows Multiple Artists
Quoting lbeefus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there a setting to do what I want? try the COMPOSER, BAND AND ORCHESTRA IN ARTISTS settings in Server settings/Behavior -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NAD multiroom amplifier
aubuti wrote: Sounds like it will be a great setup when you are done. I might not be understanding something, but it seems to me that your proposed solution of running a double set of cables (SB to centrally-located NAD amp, then amp to speakers) for each room is a lot more cable soup than having separate amplifiers for each speaker pair, like PBE suggested. This situation seems to be begging for active speakers. Of course, then he'd have to run a power and a line level cable to each speaker. A centralized amp is contrary to the Squeezebox philosophy IMHO. If you still want to go with what you're considering (SB+spkrs in each room connected to a single, centralized amp), you should be able to connect the SBs to the amp at line level using some baluns (balanced/unbalanced) adapters. There are various types, but one kind uses cat5 cable to do the bridging. Something like this: SB analog output = balun adapter = cat5 cable = balun adapter = amp input. Baluns work well. I have a pair running stereo audio and video over a distance of ~20 meters. I bought them here: http://www.videocapturecard.com Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Nokia N800
bklaas wrote: Increased CPU, from 220 to 320Mhz. This may be nice, but I think the real performance upgrades on this platform needed are in WiFi and battery life. You might not want to discount the CPU speed bump just based on the MHz diff. I haven't seen the CPU model number posted, but apparently it's a new class that isn't directly comparable in a MIPS-to-MHz fashion. Perhaps OMAP2420 in the N800 instead of OMAP1710 in the 770. The new proc looks to have a DSP, and real hardware FPU (very useful for A/V codecs) and posts (notably bogus, and a single test, but...) BogoMIPS of 320.37 vs 125.76 from the 770. The upshot being that between the CPU and memory bumps the new device could be significantly, noticeably, usefully faster than the 770. I know I'm curious enough to head down to the local CompUSA for a test drive. See: http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/2007/01/critical-question-answered-yes-n800-is.html http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-January/006812.html --rt ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
mflint wrote: tyler_durden;168214 Wrote: $1.80 per GB per month? It would only cost about $450 per month to back up my music library. I could buy two or three HDDs for for the first month's payment and forego all the future monthly payments. Now I see- for 250 GB it would be 40% off. I'm still out $270 per month. Hm. No thanks! TD Whoa, no-one was suggesting you backup all your flacs over t'internet - hence my backup everything irreplaceable to rsync.net, flacs to an external USB disk. By irreplaceable, I'm thinking of pictures from the digital camera, etc... Meanwhile, back on topic...! ;-) Too much work, too much to remember. Backups should be stupid and automatic for me... Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
Michael Herger wrote: It is expensive, but there's a lot more to offsite backups than just buying a second hard drive. In fact I was considering setting up a box at my hosting services' facility and share it with my family and friends. Recently I got more and more requests from them on how to handle backups of their data - some of it professional, some private (digicam anyone?). I've had a colo server for that purpose for a few months now. It works well and it works out a lot cheaper than the rsync.net service! I'll end up with a small box at the office's false bottom - much cheaper :-) Thought of that too, but I don't want to mix office with private. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
I've had a colo server for that purpose for a few months now. It works Is this your own machine colocated at some facility? How much does this cost where you live (where?)? I considered this, but at my hosting service's facility this costs a whoppy 55-60USD/month - too much for me and now. But I'll probably team up with some friends. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
Hi, In my opinion it is best to copy all new files to cds. Just search all your music for files newer than your last dump and then drop the files onto discs. Do this with DVDs and the number of discs falls but the risk increases. Mike. -- mudlark mudlark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7151 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: PDA remote for SB3 rather than Slim Server?
And why I think Java would be involved is that I found a Java and an Ewe version of your page(I was looking for a version to run on my PocketPC), and even for Ewe, you wrote Ewe is a programming system that allows you to write applications, using Java. Did I misunderstand that? If so, I'll gladly give it another try :=) Nope - you got me. While Ewe uses a language based on Java it uses its own runtime which is a lot smaller than anything you'll see in Java. But basically you're right :-) -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Considering Squeezebox, rhapsody questions
You might be interested in this news... :) http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31438 -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31047 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
What an awful thread. Keep some large internal hard disks for your music that copy all changes to an external USB drive on a nightly basis (like a Maxtor OneTouch... but having had one crash I find it difficult to recommend this brand). Use something like RSync, Robocopy or my particular favourite, Mirror Folder (Windows). Then every now and again take your external drive to a nearby musically inclined friend and merge your music. The benefits are obvious, the legality too (bwgaf). MC -- ModelCitizen Now what? Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: FLAC Vs WAV
--- Greg Erskine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mswlogo;167344 Wrote: I think the most useful feature of FLAC is that the file is checksummed but WAV is not. So when you mass convert your library you basically check the quality of your masters. If you use WAV it will happily read garbage. Hi mswlogo, Can you give me more inforamtion. I don't understand how this works. in WAV the PCM samples are stored raw with no framing information, checksums, or anything. it just a long string of samples. so if there is damage, nothing can detect it; usually you first find out while you're listening and suddenly get noise at full scale. in FLAC, audio is framed and checksummed so if one part is damaged, the decoder will silence it during playback, and only the damaged part. also it's possible to recover the undamaged audio, or quickly test a whole file to see if it is undamaged. Josh __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NAD multiroom amplifier
Peter;168314 Wrote: aubuti wrote: Sounds like it will be a great setup when you are done. I might not be understanding something, but it seems to me that your proposed solution of running a double set of cables (SB to centrally-located NAD amp, then amp to speakers) for each room is a lot more cable soup than having separate amplifiers for each speaker pair, like PBE suggested. This situation seems to be begging for active speakers. Of course, then he'd have to run a power and a line level cable to each speaker. A centralized amp is contrary to the Squeezebox philosophy IMHO. I thought about active speakers, but I'm not aware of any in-wall actives. Do they exist? I also agree about a centralized amp being contrary to the SB philosophy. But I have come around to thinking that an SB can be usefully paired with a (semi-)centralized amp when the zones are in rooms that are close enough and open enough to be within earshot of one another. Having separate slightly out-of-sync SBs that you can hear at the same time isn't much fun. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
hi Jim, as you can see, SD forums are basically two camps, cheerleaders and cranks. i'm a crank. i guess my problem is that i know exactly what i want, and no one makes it. i have a SB2, and like most people, i think the web UI stinks. sorry, but thats my opinion cheerleaders, and i'm entitled to it. my other concerns are that the SS software is very buggy, that the display is only on the device, not the remote, (a big problem for me and many others i'm sure) and that only SS software powers the device; it can't be used as an external soundcard, (and therefore you can't winamp it or itunes or dvd, or whatever...) it [ss] also in recent versions has developed a weakness in streaming internet stations b/c now the hardware does it alone. i like that paradigm, but the hardware needs to be as robust as software streaming solutions, (like winamp). some ISPs are flaky, SD products must recognize that. if winamp can do it, SD hardware better be able to do it too. some of this has been gone over before, please see these links: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 (interestingly, its the cheerleaders who are the most paranoid about logitech, whereas i'm not at all) http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29153 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28676 in any case, there's lots to love about SD, i'm not all negative. it is what i've used and i have tried to give feedback to fix problems with it. i am a believer in open source and i like that people can hack it and so on... i hope the next product will combine the best of SD, with the best of the logitech product i talked about in an above link. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
bklaas;168232 Wrote: The official Nokia flash thingy didn't really show anything that the 770 can't do. My guess is that it would require a hands-on to really get a feel for whether big improvements had been made performance-wise. Screen res is the same, and Opera 8 is still the browser (the OS package in its entirety is likely to be the same), so the Nokia770 skin will work the same on this device. So, digest of improvements: 2 memory card slots, and they are SD instead of RS-MMC. Some users report success with 4GB SD cards. That's fantastic--it means you could beef it up to 8GB of storage, making it worthy of both PMP and/or decent mp3 storage. I use my 770 on trips to store and watch videos (it works *great* for this, although you have to reformat the video to a res the 770 can handle). The 770 supports a 1GB RS-MMC card, which gives me about 5 hours of content. I'd love to boost that by 8x. Integrated webcam. Kind of cool, but I can't imagine I'd have much use of this. To video conference with all my friends with N800s? Unlikely. I don't want them to see me pickin' goobers anyway. Increased CPU, from 220 to 320Mhz. This may be nice, but I think the real performance upgrades on this platform needed are in WiFi and battery life. Increased on-board flash memory from 128 to 256. That was definitely needed. Built-in stereo speakers, replacing built-in mono of 770. This one also matters naught to me--if you want to hear decent audio on this platform you need headphones plugged in. Built-in kickstand. This probably costs Nokia next to nothing in cost, but it's probably the feature upgrade I'm most pleased to see. Sometimes it's the little things that make the biggest difference. Nice to see Nokia continuing to develop on this platform. I don't really get a clear vision of how well the internet tablet thing is going for them-- there are still a lot of people porting open source stuff on to maemo.org, but I've quit looking at the main forum for 770 users, internettablettalk, because it's largely garbage and doesn't have the kind of interesting discussions you'd hope (compared to this forum, which is wildly successful, if a little contentious lately). I'm certainly not going to be rushing out to purchase one of these, but if one landed in my lap I'd be pretty psyched. cheers, #!/ben Well, I can't do much, but I would be willing to kickstart an N800 fund for Ben :-) I tried this earlier with another developer to get Slimserver integrated with the FreeNAS project, but the work never got done and he refunded my money. In appreciation for the work on the 770 skin that Ben has done, I will be the first to drop $30 USD into a Paypal account, working towards the $399 USD the N800 costs. Thoughts? -- boerner boerner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3601 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] web ui poll
a poll to see who thinks what about the web ui -- stinkingpig That which does not kill you makes you bitter and cynical. -- Too Much Coffee Man stinkingpig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=547 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31443 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
i would guess you've read my posts and threads on this subject. here are my conclusions: IF someone can stream a station via winamp with no problems, then their connection is GOOD ENOUGH TO DO SO! (sounds obvious, but sometimes around here it needs stressed). if winamp, (or whatever), has proven that the connection is indeed good enough, then imo, SD must also make their products, (whether it be software or hardware) able to play the streams equally as well. imo, the SB is simply NOT AS ROBUST as winamp for tuning in streaming stations. i btw have a cable modem connection, which is what most of consumer america uses for broadband. (it was adelphia, now its comcast). here's what i think happened, and this is based on my understanding of the facts, which could easily be wrong: SS 6.3.1 and earlier used to feed the stream to SS first, THEN to the SB. as of 6.5 and later, it now feeds the stream DIRECTLY to the SB. this is the better way to do it from a usability standpoint, IF it is in fact true that the hardware is as robust a methodology for tuning in, (as it is in winamp), or as it was in SS/SB in ver 6.3.1 or earlier. it is my belief however, that the hardware is in fact NOT AS ROBUST and therefore, IF your ISP is in ANY WAY flaky, the SB hardware will reveal the problems of your ISP, while winamp will not, (b/c winamp is more robust). an interesting test you could do, (which i haven't yet, b/c as of recently, my streaming is working again. as i said in other threads, its a here again, gone again issue), would be to totally uninstall whatever SS you have, delete all dirs, etc... and install 6.3.1 and see if it fixes your problem. if it does, (and if i'm correct that that ver is the last one that sent tuned in station to SS first b4 sending it on to the SB), then i think thats proof positive that the hardware is not robust enough. one caveat to all this... AndyG at one point had me tune in some soma stations and in the time i listened to them, though of equal kbps, my hardware did not stutter and stall, and stop. it could be i didn't listen long enough, or that they used something other than shoutcast to broadcast... but it was interesting that on those servers, my ISP and my SB seemed up to the task, while on my LION Radio servers, they were not. please let me know what you discover and what you think of my conclusions so far. i'd like to really get proof that the problem is the SS/SB solution, not my ISP (flaky or not), my wireless, my neighbors, lee harvey oswald, or aliens. thx, -mdw -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
boerner;168343 Wrote: In appreciation for the work on the 770 skin that Ben has done, I will be the first to drop $30 USD into a Paypal account, working towards the $399 USD the N800 costs. Thoughts? I'm in if you set up the account (possibly only $20 though, I don't use the skin ATM :) -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Nokia N800
boerner wrote: bklaas;168232 Wrote: The official Nokia flash thingy didn't really show anything that the 770 can't do. My guess is that it would require a hands-on to really get a feel for whether big improvements had been made performance-wise. Screen res is the same, and Opera 8 is still the browser (the OS package in its entirety is likely to be the same), so the Nokia770 skin will work the same on this device. So, digest of improvements: 2 memory card slots, and they are SD instead of RS-MMC. Some users report success with 4GB SD cards. That's fantastic--it means you could beef it up to 8GB of storage, making it worthy of both PMP and/or decent mp3 storage. I use my 770 on trips to store and watch videos (it works *great* for this, although you have to reformat the video to a res the 770 can handle). The 770 supports a 1GB RS-MMC card, which gives me about 5 hours of content. I'd love to boost that by 8x. Integrated webcam. Kind of cool, but I can't imagine I'd have much use of this. To video conference with all my friends with N800s? Unlikely. I don't want them to see me pickin' goobers anyway. Increased CPU, from 220 to 320Mhz. This may be nice, but I think the real performance upgrades on this platform needed are in WiFi and battery life. Increased on-board flash memory from 128 to 256. That was definitely needed. Built-in stereo speakers, replacing built-in mono of 770. This one also matters naught to me--if you want to hear decent audio on this platform you need headphones plugged in. Built-in kickstand. This probably costs Nokia next to nothing in cost, but it's probably the feature upgrade I'm most pleased to see. Sometimes it's the little things that make the biggest difference. Nice to see Nokia continuing to develop on this platform. I don't really get a clear vision of how well the internet tablet thing is going for them-- there are still a lot of people porting open source stuff on to maemo.org, but I've quit looking at the main forum for 770 users, internettablettalk, because it's largely garbage and doesn't have the kind of interesting discussions you'd hope (compared to this forum, which is wildly successful, if a little contentious lately). I'm certainly not going to be rushing out to purchase one of these, but if one landed in my lap I'd be pretty psyched. cheers, #!/ben Well, I can't do much, but I would be willing to kickstart an N800 fund for Ben :-) I tried this earlier with another developer to get Slimserver integrated with the FreeNAS project, but the work never got done and he refunded my money. In appreciation for the work on the 770 skin that Ben has done, I will be the first to drop $30 USD into a Paypal account, working towards the $399 USD the N800 costs. Hey, You could give me money towards an N800 too :) R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
This is a very interesting thread. Jim - glad to see your request for input from the community. For a frame of reference, I am computer and home networking savvy and though not an audiophile, I have pretty high standards regarding audio. I have a large collection of music (2,000+ CDs) that was aquired myself, not via downloads from the Internet. I purchased my first SB just 2 weeks ago, though I've been following the product for the last year by reading the forums and playing around with slimserver and softsqueeze. A common theme in many of the responses was the usability issues regarding setup and usage via the web interface. Frist, I'd like to comment on the setup difficulties. The issues surrounding setup of the SB3 are much simpler than that of setting up a home network. If somebody is considering purchasing an SB3, they already have a home network set up, so they've already been through the worst of it. With things like DHCP, setup of the SB3 is a breeze! I chose to use a static IP to speed up power up, but that was my choice. I also had to enter my SSID since I have its broadcast disabled. These hurdles are no different than configuring a new laptop to communicate with the network. So, a new SB3 owner will either be familiar with what is required to set up a networked device since they already have a network, or know a geek to help them out (this geek would have set up the network to begin with). I know this from experience - I have set up 4 home networks including my own. (Personally, I found the setup to be a breeze.) The point is that anybody even thinking about purchasing an SB3 will have no problem setting it up or know somebody who does. Secondly, there is the entire issue of ripping and encoding music. This is a hurdle even for the iPod crowd, unless music is purchased via iTunes. Maybe that's what most people do, not sure. The point is that the technical difficulties in this area are shared with any other media product, such as iPod (which is so highly praised for usability). The difference though is that iTunes provides a means to rip and encode whereas SlimServer does not. It would be useful to provide this capability. And just like with iTunes, if you already have your favorite set of tools you use, you may choose to continue to use them. Thirdly, many have commented on the web interface for the server. It took me some getting used to, but it is very servicable. Since this is only used on the back end, I don't think its look-and-feel is as critical as on the client. An OS specific application to configure slimserver would be useful, but the web functionality and interface should be maintained as it is flexible - I can access it even from work! So, what do I love about my SB3? I own an iPod. I have docks for it. I have listened to it connected to my stereo and was content, except I had to get up to navigate my music library. SS3 allows me to navigate my ENTIRE music library (including what doesn't fit onto my iPod) from my chair. That's killer! Something I didn't expect is that the SB3 sounds quite noticibly better than my iPod in its dock. That was a great bonus! I had stayed away from iPod because it did not support gapless playback. I was stuck with Sony ATRAC on an HD3. When Apple introduced gapless playback of LAME mp3s in Sept, I jumped in and bought the new 80GB model. This is a key feature for me - if SB3 didn't support it, I wouldn't own one. You guys listen to your customers and bring the features that they want. You guys reacted much more quickly to this than Apple did. FLAC is supported natively on the client - another huge plus. And the open server and plugin architecture is great. I have last.fm and weather forcasts thanks to 3rd party developers in the community. Internet radio access is great too. I like that I can tune in virtually any URL I want. And being able to interact with Pandora and Last.fm via the remote is killer! The XM radio went out the window thanks to those features! My only complaint so far is the price. I wish it was just a little bit cheaper. Though I do understand that quality like this comes at a cost. Over time I'm sure there is at least one more SB3 in my future. I also wish I could go into Circuit City or Best Buy to purchase. Now that you are part of Logitech, perhaps larger distribution is in the future. Rich Maggio -- maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: web ui poll
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31443 Question: How do you control the Slimserver? - Stock Handheld Remote - 3rd Party Remote (Harmony, Nokia, PDA, c) - Web Interface - 3rd Party Computer Interface (Moose, JRMC, c) Ah, good it lets me choose more than one item (though I doubt the polling software is smart enough to report on that very well). I use the remote at home, and the web page when I am at work. I get along fine with both, though a proper universal remote is always on my wishlist (not because of the Squeezebox, just because every universal I have tried is almost right, not quite really right... so at some point I will get a Harmony to program it correctly instead of 'choose the maker of your dvd player from this list and guess which code to use'...) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31443 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] web ui poll
a poll to see who thinks what about the web ui Another interesting poll would be about the different skins. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
Yes, I have seen your posts MrSinatra. And I have tried going back - I think as far as far as 6.3, but I have spent so much time messing with this that memory no longer serves, but at least to versions that appeared to work in the past and do not now. Whether SD must make their products, (whether it be software or hardware), as able to play the stream as Winamp on the same access is debatable; but certainly I would like SS to be as robust as Winamp - which too is not perfect, but far more successful. The developers - from whom I would love to hear on this - can tell us whether that's feasible or not. For now I have dedicated an old laptop to playing Winamp out to an Extigy and controlled by VNC; the SQ is almost as good as the SB3, but the power consumption probably 10x. Crude but at least I get to hear the music I want. The silly thing is that when I want to listen to my recorded music collection I have to switch the optical cable to the SB3, that's where any last vestige of elegance breaks down. Which is why I would like to see SS step up to the plate. Are you reading this, Jim Carlton? -- jamullian jamullian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: web ui poll
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31443 Question: How do you control the Slimserver? - Stock Handheld Remote - 3rd Party Remote (Harmony, Nokia, PDA, c) - Web Interface - 3rd Party Computer Interface (Moose, JRMC, c) Michael Herger;168353 Wrote: Another interesting poll would be about the different skins. -- Michael I can hear the stereo from the PC, so find myself Web interfacing often. I use default, which works (well) for me. A framed version of Nokia would be nice for desktops though. My 640x480 touchscreen h/PC languishes here because even touch's CSS is too advanced for the ancient IE it uses. It's only limitation other than the browser is b wireless, but lack of a mating skin is primarily what keeps it dusty. I'm not mad at anyone for not developing to the least common denominator, but I'm sure a lot of these devices exist. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31443 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NAD multiroom amplifier
aubuti;168334 Wrote: I thought about active speakers, but I'm not aware of any in-wall actives. Do they exist? I did not came across any... aubuti;168334 Wrote: I also agree about a centralized amp being contrary to the SB philosophy. But I have come around to thinking that an SB can be usefully paired with a (semi-)centralized amp when the zones are in rooms that are close enough and open enough to be within earshot of one another. Having separate slightly out-of-sync SBs that you can hear at the same time isn't much fun. The DC-101 speaker I had in mind has a wooden unit (DC301/RE 650) that can be cemented into my brick wall (see http://www.artsound.be/index.cfm?PageID=16125) I do not think however that the spare room in this box is big enough to house: a. transformer 220VAC- 12..18DC b. Amp (probably with heat sink) Another point I see as a disadvantage is that all speakers will be powered on permanently, where with the NAD amp it is possible to shut it down remotely by making use of one of the squeezebox plugins and some simple hardware (I think ;). -- linuxtuxie linuxtuxie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5897 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31395 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
so i take it when u went back it didn't fix it? well, you might then want to try 6.2.x which i am POSITIVE did not have problems tuning in streams, and which i am also positive did not send the stream directly to the SB, (meaning thats what i've been told/read). i know it is a huge pita to regress versions - firmware, (which explains why i haven't tried it yet). however, if and when the problem resurfaces for me, i will def try it. i really don't see how debatable it is as far as it needing to be as robust as winamp (or any other solution). why? b/c thats the ENTIRE POINT of this product... to serve music to you, whether it be local or off of the internet. thats what they advertise it does, all without the need of a computer even! there is a standard out there, WMP/Winamp/iTunes/Real, etc... have set it... they all work equally well with these streams; would SD seriously contend their products should not? i have never gotten an answer, from AndyG, the support email, etc... as to WHY does winamp work np while SD does not? they simply won't address it. i'd love to know if u do get one. (perhaps the closest anyone has come is to say winamp can buffer more. well, perhaps it does, but i set SD stuff to 30secs, and it takes forever to load, and then still can't [sometimes] handle it... winamp starts playing right away, always problem free, and i don't think it buffers more than 5 seconds, although i don't know that for sure. it speaks to its robustness that i've never had to find that setting. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
one other quick point... the SB couldn't even handle a 32kbps stream, while winamp and even multiple computers on my network could all play the 128kbps stream (via winamp or wmp or whatever) simultaneously, np. if SD can't handle a single 128, 96 or even 32kbps stream that other solutions do (even in multiple instances) with flying colors, then i think that says a lot. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Fishbone - the root of all evil?
kdf;168301 Wrote: and again...event viewer or log information please. I think I have found the event viewer log message for my failure. I have been playing with the Fishbone skin again today and it seems to be working ok (so far). Hope this helps. Event Type: Error Event Source: Application Event Category: None Event ID: 0 Date: 8/01/2007 Time: 10:32:39 p.m. User: N/A Computer: KIWI Description: The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( Application ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: Can't use string () as a subroutine ref while strict refs in use at C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Live365/Web.pm line 775. . -- SumnerBoy SumnerBoy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8924 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31415 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB1 IR receiver broken
I have an SB1 w/ a broken IR receiver. I verified this by jumpering the IR board from a working SB1 to my broken one and IR then worked. I am trying to find out the part number of the IR receiver so I can replace it myself. I've emailed support but have not heard back in days. Anybody know who the manufacturer and what the part number is for the IR receiver? Thanks! -- damage 'My House' (http://www.kjsdoghouse.com/autohouse) 'My HA blog' (http://kjsdoghouse.blogspot.com) damage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=628 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31448 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
On 1/8/07, MrSinatra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Jim, as you can see, SD forums are basically two camps, cheerleaders and cranks. I'd actually rename those camps to those who bought what they want and those who want something else but bought a Squeezebox anyway :) i'm a crank. i guess my problem is that i know exactly what i want, and no one makes it. i have a SB2, and like most people, i think the web UI stinks. sorry, but thats my opinion cheerleaders, and i'm entitled to it. Aaargh!!! To the barricades me hearties, defeat this infidel Oh wait, I actually don't care at all. Sorry for the confusion. I don't think you can say most people without something to back it up. Here's a stab at a poll: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31443 -- I'd say that every vote for Option 2 or Option 4 is a vote you can count against the stock interfaces :) my other concerns are that the SS software is very buggy, that the display is only on the device, not the remote, (a big problem for me and many others i'm sure) and that only SS software powers the device; it can't be used as an external soundcard, (and therefore you can't winamp it or itunes or dvd, or whatever...) Four issues conflated into one sentence... 1) Slimserver is buggy, yes, and I'd personally like to see either more rapid releases, or a move to the perpetual beta idea of these Web 2.0 companies. Dump the release idea altogether and just put a link to the latest nightly up on the download page. 2) Display on the remote is requested from time to time. Does nothing for me, but you go right ahead. 3) Having alternate servers would be mildly interesting, except that it would require switching from SS or SN to whatever, and back. 4) A VLW (very long wire) mode has the same problem, plus a requirement to disable the buffer (which means that wireless users will have even more problems than they do now). At the end of the day, either of these issues end up with a device that does exactly what far cheaper alternatives do (Airport Express for instance). Not saying that's a bad thing to add-on, just that I have no need for it. it [ss] also in recent versions has developed a weakness in streaming internet stations b/c now the hardware does it alone. i like that paradigm, but the hardware needs to be as robust as software streaming solutions, (like winamp). some ISPs are flaky, SD products must recognize that. if winamp can do it, SD hardware better be able to do it too. I don't use enough Internet radio to comment, though I do think it's kind of specious to use Winamp running on a full computer as your standard to judge the SB by. some of this has been gone over before, please see these links: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 (interestingly, its the cheerleaders who are the most paranoid about logitech, whereas i'm not at all) huh? I must have missed the score card, and the team rosters too :) I'm pretty happy with the Squeezebox/Slimserver system as it stands, but I'm in favor of the Logitech acquisition, but I like to mock the people who scream that the sky is falling because their favorite feature isn't present, so which team am I on? -- I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin, So across the Western ocean I must wander -- traditional ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
I think we've already been over this... the streams you claim don't work, do in fact work fine for me and others. I have yet to find a stream that works in Winamp and does not work on an SB, so I really can't do any sort of debugging or anything. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
But if the broadband was the culprit, Winamp would not be able to keep the stream playing either. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
andyg;168370 Wrote: I think we've already been over this... the streams you claim don't work, do in fact work fine for me and others. I have yet to find a stream that works in Winamp and does not work on an SB, so I really can't do any sort of debugging or anything. While you are lucky to be on a broadband connection that does not have these issues, clearly there are those in the world - let's just mention myself, dougal and mrsinatra for a start - who do have this problem, and probably many many others who are not posting but simply dismissing SS/SB as a poor product as a result. I'd be glad to work with you and beta test some kind of setup that would allow you to log the failure, if this could lead to a successful development. -- jamullian jamullian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
andyg;168378 Wrote: But if the broadband was the culprit, Winamp would not be able to keep the stream playing either. Then, in the (paraphrased) words of Sherlock Holmes, the only possible cause is the one remaining culprit, however improbable. I am not a software author. I am however a technical support specialist. It seems to me rather improbable that Winamp and SS use the exact same engine to decode the stream (please forgive any possible nebulousness in my language). One works. The other doesn't. What inference can we draw here? -- jamullian jamullian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
BTW, please don't just say something 'doesn't work' on the SB. Please report what happens to the buffer level, and read/understand this FAQ item: http://faq.slimdevices.com/index.php?action=artikelcat=4id=236artlang=en -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
Could be other things such as a wireless SB vs. a wired computer. Anyway, until we can find a reproducible case where something works in Winamp and fails in SB for everyone regardless of their internet or network setup, we can't really make any progress on this issue. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
andyg;168391 Wrote: BTW, please don't just say something 'doesn't work' on the SB. Please report what happens to the buffer level, and read/understand this FAQ item: http://faq.slimdevices.com/index.php?action=artikelcat=4id=236artlang=en I have read the FAQ thoroughly and have described what happens to the buffer level at the beginning of this thread. andyg;168391 Wrote: Anyway, until we can find a reproducible case where something works in Winamp and fails in SB for everyone regardless of their internet or network setup, we can't really make any progress on this issue. Do all issues you have to resolve apply to all users? Just because we are in a minority, and you can not reproduce it in your lab, does not mean it does not happen - I can reproduce it at any moment. Do I need to send you screen shots to persuade you? I'd be glad to do so. -- jamullian jamullian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
There are a number of ways in which the issue can arise - most often the stream never starts (with an Error no items found in playlist showing on the SB3) or at best it plays for a few seconds or minutes, runs out of buffer and does not rebuffer. There are 2 completely different issues here. The error about no playlist items is related to a Shoutcast issue where their server gets overloaded and can't return you a playlist. We don't need to talk about this issue here. To avoid this problem you should find the real stream URL for the stream you're trying to play and not go through the Shoutcast plugin which gives you URLs that require the Shoutcast server to be working. Let's focus on your other issue where the stream does play and then stops. When a stream runs out of data, it should rebuffer if you are using firmware 72 and the latest 6.5.1 build. Enable Show Buffer Fullness and watch what happens to the two numbers from when you start streaming to when it rebuffers, then see what they say after they rebuffer. Please also post the stream URL that's giving you problems. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Fishbone - the root of all evil?
Quoting SumnerBoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: information is part of the event: Can't use string () as a subroutine ref while strict refs in use at C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Live365/Web.pm line 775. Looks like you were trying to use Live365 at the time. I As the plugin pages are shared, I would expect that you'll see this problem with any skin unless as suggested before, you have left over templates. Slimserver, prior to 6.5 plugins used custom pages for each skin. These are no longer required, but were left behind accidentally during the 6.5.0 install. Getting rid of the plugins folder and re-installing would clear this up. 6.5.1 builds take care of cleaning up this mess. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
andyg;168400 Wrote: There are 2 completely different issues here. The error about no playlist items is related to a Shoutcast issue where their server gets overloaded and can't return you a playlist. We don't need to talk about this issue here. To avoid this problem you should find the real stream URL for the stream you're trying to play and not go through the Shoutcast plugin which gives you URLs that require the Shoutcast server to be working. OK, let's not talk about the fact that Winamp simply tries the next stream in the list and the next until it finds one it can connect to. Time elapsed till connect and playing can be as long as 60 seconds, but once it plays it never drops. I'm currently playing http://205.188.215.225:8006 but I started by tuning to http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=3201 andyg;168400 Wrote: Let's focus on your other issue where the stream does play and then stops. When a stream runs out of data, it should rebuffer if you are using firmware 72 and the latest 6.5.1 build. Enable Show Buffer Fullness and watch what happens to the two numbers from when you start streaming to when it rebuffers, then see what they say after they rebuffer. Please also post the stream URL that's giving you problems. The left hand figure varies from around 6 or 8 or even 9, and plays for a little while - maybe seconds, maybe minutes, then starts dropping off. When it reaches 0, the 10.0 to the right of the / starts dropping too, and the dropouts begin. Once both figures get close to or reach 0.0, play stops. Sometimes rebuffering starts for a while but typically stops at around 30-45% and then budges no more. I can't reproduce this on the same stream as above since I can never connect, but SomaFM Groove Salad typically behaves as I describe. Well, except for like now, I can't even start the stream, it just sits at Now playing 1 of 12 and the buffer sits at 0.0/0.0. I found the URL by doing a search in the Shoutcast list in SS on SomaFM: http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=9239filename=playlist.pls Winamp tuned in about 15 seconds, and plays without a problem. SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11099 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Server IP address: 192.168.0.100 Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt -- jamullian jamullian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
andyg;168370 Wrote: I think we've already been over this... the streams you claim don't work, do in fact work fine for me and others. I have yet to find a stream that works in Winamp and does not work on an SB, so I really can't do any sort of debugging or anything. Andy, i realize that you are doing what you can, but for clarity's sake: i never claimed the problem was with the streams, i have claimed the problem is with the SD product's handling of the streams. just b/c u can't reproduce it where you are, doesn't mean it isn't happening, or isn't a SD problem. and even if its true my ISP is flakier than yours, since winamp has no problem with my ISP, the problem would still lie with the SD solution / implementation. the question to me is, why isn't the SD product as robust? of course, presently, i not experiencing the issue. but it comes and goes, typically for weeks at a time of one way or the other. i can only hope it stays gone. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
andyg;168390 Wrote: Could be other things such as a wireless SB vs. a wired computer. Anyway, until we can find a reproducible case where something works in Winamp and fails in SB for everyone regardless of their internet or network setup, we can't really make any progress on this issue. and btw, this is def not the case with me. this might apply to others, but since i NEVER changed anything with my wireless setup, over the weeks and months this has come and gone multiple times, i think we can safely put this one to bed. it is NOT the wireless setup i have, and i think we should stop looking in that direction, and start getting a little more introspective. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Fishbone - the root of all evil?
kdf;168403 Wrote: Slimserver, prior to 6.5 plugins used custom pages for each skin. These are no longer required, but were left behind accidentally during the 6.5.0 install. Getting rid of the plugins folder and re-installing would clear this up. 6.5.1 builds take care of cleaning up this mess. My bad - earlier I stated I had 6.5, I actually have 6.5.1 10738 (a relatively recent nightly build). I only installed SlimServer late last year and have only ever had 6.5.1 installed - i.e. no previous versions. I will let you know if I see this problem again and try and provide more details. Thanks for your help in this! -- SumnerBoy SumnerBoy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8924 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31415 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
jamullian;168402 Wrote: OK, let's not talk about the fact that Winamp simply tries the next stream in the list and the next until it finds one it can connect to. Time elapsed till connect and playing can be as long as 60 seconds, but once it plays it never drops. I'm currently playing http://205.188.215.225:8006 but I started by tuning to http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=3201 This station tuned in right away for me, maybe 1 or 2 seconds. To avoid the Shoutcast problems, enter that 205 URL directly in 'Tune In' or you could use a SqueezeNetwork favorite. The left hand figure varies from around 6 or 8 or even 9, and plays for a little while - maybe seconds, maybe minutes, then starts dropping off. When it reaches 0, the 10.0 to the right of the / starts dropping too, and the dropouts begin. Once both figures get close to or reach 0.0, play stops. Sometimes rebuffering starts for a while but typically stops at around 30-45% and then budges no more. I can't reproduce this on the same stream as above since I can never connect, but SomaFM Groove Salad typically behaves as I describe. Your initial numbers are just what I see too, and the way most mp3 stations operate (sending an initial burst of many seconds of audio). The only things I can think of that would cause the drop-off of audio bandwidth are wireless problems, internet problems, problems with the broadcaster, or an ISP that throttles the traffic. I think there is at least one ISP (in the UK) that does this for certain ports to slow down p2p traffic. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Fishbone - the root of all evil?
np. One thing to note, the Fishbone skin remembers which page you last chose from the pulldown menu. If, for instance, you were using Live365 prior to the update, it might have remembered the page in a way that isn't right post-upgrade. Unfortunately, clearing cookies isn't covered in the installs currently. It could be that the Live365 page loads lose something over time, and that is causing the problem. I'm not a Live365 user, so I don't have the longer term exposure. It could also be a live365 issue, in which case you may find that you see the problem using any other skin. Any of these cases will narrow down cause. cheers, kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
andyg;168410 Wrote: The only things I can think of that would cause the drop-off of audio bandwidth are wireless problems, internet problems, problems with the broadcaster, or an ISP that throttles the traffic. I think there is at least one ISP (in the UK) that does this for certain ports to slow down p2p traffic. but as i always have said, why then does winamp work??? your only other than SD resort in that case, is to point to the wirelessness of someone's setup. but if it is NOT the wirelessness, as in my case, then it MUST be winamp, yes? (local music of 256kbps played fine always) or would you disagree? if you would please finally agree with me that my wireless setup is fine, how do you then explain the inability (at the time it was happening) of SD to play a 32kbps stream, that winamp could play fine? not to mention the 128kbps that SD couldn't even load that winamp also played fine? thats the question that i say you have never addressed. i know you want to help, but it seems to me you feel that if you can't reproduce it then it must be some esoteric weirdness of the troubled user, rather than the product. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: FLAC album art weirdness (stupid noob tricks)
There was one commonality to all but one of the problematic directories: funny characters in the name. I run on windows, and got most of my music into flac by transcoding from my itunes alac tree. Itunes put what looked like weird windows (ie, not even utf8) characters on some of the names of the directories. Also, one had a ' in it. Fixed these, did a full rescan, and everything was ok. There was one that didn't: the permissions looked ok, but when I created a whole new image in gimp (_without_ cutting and pasting from the original or using it in any way), that one automagically fixed itself. I thought I'd post this in case anyone else has such issues with album art. -- totoro squeezebox 3 - mccormack dna .5 - audio physic tempo 4 totoro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31022 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Any CES news from Slim/Logitech?
Title says it all. -- Balthazar_B Balthazar_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7366 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31451 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
Yeah, your wireless seems fine. You said your SB has been working fine for a few weeks, so that's even stranger. I'm really at a loss for ideas at this point. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox v3 (wired) - no display or ethernet connection
Matt, You're welcome to take apart your player and see if you can fix it. But, it's not always easy, so we're here to help. Contact support AT slimdevices DOT com and request an RMA. -- Ross L Ross Levine - Slim Devices Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] - +1.650.210.9400 ext. 3 Ross L's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
andyg;168410 Wrote: This station tuned in right away for me, maybe 1 or 2 seconds. To avoid the Shoutcast problems, enter that 205 URL directly in 'Tune In' or you could use a SqueezeNetwork favorite. Entering that 205 URL directly still gets me the no items found in playlist msg andyg;168410 Wrote: Your initial numbers are just what I see too, and the way most mp3 stations operate (sending an initial burst of many seconds of audio). The only things I can think of that would cause the drop-off of audio bandwidth are wireless problems, internet problems, problems with the broadcaster, or an ISP that throttles the traffic. I think there is at least one ISP (in the UK) that does this for certain ports to slow down p2p traffic. Yes, I agree that there could be something in the Internet connection - I have mentioned that this is a satellite connection, and as such is full of proxies and latency which can not be bypassed (in-house it's all wired) - that is causing SS/SB not to work. I think we started with that premise ... and Winamp works. I find it very disappointing that you have no wish to solve the issue. -- jamullian jamullian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9452 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
andyg;168418 Wrote: Yeah, your wireless seems fine. You said your SB has been working fine for a few weeks, so that's even stranger. I'm really at a loss for ideas at this point. it could be, (and i hope), that it was all a result of adelphia clumsily switching over to comcast. thats my best theory at this point, and one i hope is true b/c it should mean as they work out more and more kinks over time, the problem, for me, will be gone. however, here's where i would start looking if SD was truly concerned with solving this problem: i would create a test environment that simulated a flaky isp, and see how well SD handled it. does the SD solution fail far easier then winamp in the environment? try different collisions and other tcp stuff, and combos of them. i realize how difficult it is for you to try to fix something you can't easily reproduce, so the next best thing is to artificially create an environment and see if u can reproduce conditions that make SD in the test lab act the same way, as whats happening to some of us users. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
MrSinatra;168431 Wrote: i would create a test environment that simulated a flaky isp, and see how well SD handled it. does the SD solution fail far easier then winamp in the environment? try different collisions and other tcp stuff, and combos of them. i realize how difficult it is for you to try to fix something you can't easily reproduce, so the next best thing is to artificially create an environment and see if u can reproduce conditions that make SD in the test lab act the same way, as whats happening to some of us users. Another option would be for you to try to eliminate the possibility that perhaps (very likely) it is your wireless that's creating the problem. Connect your squeezebox via ethernet, and post again when the problem reoccurs. Although you say your wireless is not at fault, wireless is flaky at the best of times. The fact that you're saying it's working properly now says that the most likely culprit is something where the conditions change, and believe it or not, but wireless networking conditions are changing constantly. -- Cronos Cronos's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2445 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
my wireless is at 100%, it sits 2.5 feet from my router, i have no neighbors nearby and likely few if any of them have broadband, and i play local music flawlessly. and the OP stated quite clearly earlier in the thread that his setup is totally wired. why do u insist its probably the wireless when there is no reason to think so? believe me, if it should happen again, i will wire it, to simply eliminate the red herring wild goose chase of the wireless scapegoat, (at least in my case). -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
MrSinatra;168436 Wrote: my wireless is at 100%, it sits 2.5 feet from my router, i have no neighbors nearby and likely few if any of them have broadband, and i play local music flawlessly. and the OP stated quite clearly earlier in the thread that his setup is totally wired. why do u insist its probably the wireless when there is no reason to think so? believe me, if it should happen again, i will wire it, to simply eliminate the red herring wild goose chase of the wireless scapegoat, (at least in my case). Getting so defensive isn't going to solve your problem. I'm nobody overly technical, just a very satisfied user who has had one problem with his SB since he's owned them, and that problem was related with the wireless networking despite me thinking everything was absolutely 100%. I insist it's probably the wireless, because 99 times out of 100 it is. Why wouldn't you tackle the known weakest link first rather than clamping your hands over your ears and shouting 'NO NO NO'. The worst that can happen is you'll prove you were right, and then someone can move on to the next step to help diagnose your problem. You're saying it's working right now. What has changed? -- Cronos Cronos's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2445 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
if i'm defensive, its b/c i KNOW its not the wireless. this isn't the first thread this has been gone over in, don't assume i haven't tackled all the possibilities it was in my power to do so. probably half my posts are on this topic. fyi, it was only SOME streams that had the problem, not all did, and local music didn't. if it were the wireless, that wouldn't be the case. andyg seems to agree that in my case, it probably isn't the wireless. and the other side of the coin is that all too often people will keep harping on the wireless angle b/c they either believe thats it 99% of the time, or b/c they love SD so much they don't want to admit it might have a problem. its not personal, its just that your input, in my case, and that of the OP, is not going to help, b/c what u seem to be sure it is, it isn't. as to moving on, thats exactly what i'm trying to do, but of course now it is working again, (and note, nothing about my wireless is different), so i can't continue working on the issue. as to what has changed, i wish i knew, but as i said, my GUESS is that i think comcast is cleaning up its act since switching over from adelphia. but its just a guess, i can't say for sure... i wish i could b/c then id know for sure what the cause of the issue is. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
