Re: [slim] SC can't read my FLAC's embedded cue sheets
Hi, In article dsdreamer.3qwman1240168...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com, dsdreamerdsdreamer.3qwman1240168...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote: I tried your approach and eventually gave up, and went to one FLAC file per track. This is much more the way SC expects the library to be organized. I'm not sure what gave you that idea. My library is 95% whole album FLAC files with embedded CUE sheets. Works just fine. Andy ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] album plays on SS but not SB
I have an album in FLAC format that will not play on the squeezebox. The album plays on SoftSqueeze on a WiFi computer. However, it will not play on either of my SB3's (using WiFi or powerline ethernet). It's weird since the squeezecenter shows that the song is playing and the time bar is moving, but on the squeezebox itself the song title is there but the time bar is not moving and stuck at 0:00. I did a network test on both squeeboxes and they are at worst 90% on 5000kbs. Any thoughts? Is there something about how the album was ripped that is tripping up the SB? -- UNCMo96 UNCMo96's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11386 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62691 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to get Winamp to play FLAC stream from SqueezeCenter
milosz;417839 Wrote: I STILL want to stream my lossless FLAC files to something other than softsqueeze, but it appears that there is nothing out there that will do this. If control via SC Web UI or a Duet Controller is good for you, SqueezeSlave might also be an option (as has been said before). An unobtrusive no-GUI background player that just outputs to your soundcard whatever you let SC stream to it. Works on Linux, Windows, and maybe Mac OS X (I tested only the first two). There's so many options, even UPnP, daap protocol, Apple Bonjour, (using Vortexbox), MP3 streaming, SoftSqueeze, SqueezePlay, and the real good hardware players. I agree a http protocol FLAC stream like http://squeezecenter:9000/stream.flac might be nice, but ... ;-) -- Moonbase Moonbase: 'The Problem Solver' (http://www.kaufen-ist-toll.de/moonbase) Moonbase's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21594 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LastFM Library
I assumed that My Radio Station presented stuff around the stuff you've played/scrobbled... and maybe included stuff you've played. Whereas My Library was purely stuff you've played. But I am probably wrong. You are better at reading between the lines than me. I didn't think (or realise?) that the OP wanted to chose tracks individually. MC -- ModelCitizen On average people have fewer than two feet. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LastFM Library
Alternatively, I'm better at leaping to assumptions... ;-) From the last.fm website... Last.fm Wrote: 1) Library: Your Library radio plays you all tracks youve ever scrobbled to your profile, or tracks by artists youve added to your Library otherwise. You can listen to your own Library radio or to other users stations. 2) Recommendations: The Recommendations radio is a personal station for you, which lets you listen to the artists that have been recommended to you by Last.fm. You can view and manage your recommendations here. 3) Loved Tracks: Loved Tracks radio simply plays all tracks you have loved (or another user has loved). This type of station is generally only available to subscribers. 4) Personal Tags: Personal Tag stations play all items you have, or another user has tagged with a specific tag. This type of station is generally only available to subscribers. 5) Global Tags: Global Tag stations play all items all users have tagged with a specific tag (as opposed to Personal Tags). 6) Similar Artists: Similar Artist radio plays music which is similar to a given artist. 7) Neighbourhood: Neighbourhood radio stations play music from your or other users' neighbours. 8) Groups: A groups Member Radio plays music based on the group members profiles. Pretty sure that means Library is equivalent to My Radio Station. -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? -Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback included: yeah, it's good... got the odd dodgy track tho...- (c) 'ModelCitizen' (http://www.last.fm/user/Modelcitizen) Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Re: [slim] multi-room amplifier suggestions
I've seen this on EBay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-T-Amp-Class-T-Amp-Class-T-Audio-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ250410292149QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item250410292149_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=72%3A1300|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 Not sure what the sound quality is like, it's 'says' it's good of course. It's only for use in a kitchen and an ensuite so the quality isn't too important. Really struggling to find anything else in the UK. I thought the market would be awash with devices like this :( -- sjbuck sjbuck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62677 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to get Winamp to play FLAC stream from SqueezeCenter
You could just network share the drive where the flac files are. Then play them with winamp from the share. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover art All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 1.5 Terabite drive
Not sure if this is against the rules here but if you need a external drive Costco has a 1.5 terabite Seagate Free Agent drive on a coupon. Normally 139.99 US, coupon 30.00 off. I have a 750gB version from about a year and a half ago and it's the best external I've ever used. It says you can get it online too which is nice. Good until May 3rd. Hard to beat for 110 bucks. I'd like to get 2 but will have to settle for one. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62693 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Favorite service?
SomaFM FTW. -- eq72521 eq72521's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1512 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62655 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] album plays on SS but not SB
UNCMo96;418024 Wrote: I have an album in FLAC format that will not play on the squeezebox. The album plays on SoftSqueeze on a WiFi computer. However, it will not play on either of my SB3's (using WiFi or powerline ethernet). It's weird since the squeezecenter shows that the song is playing and the time bar is moving, but on the squeezebox itself the song title is there but the time bar is not moving and stuck at 0:00. I did a network test on both squeeboxes and they are at worst 90% on 5000kbs. Any thoughts? Is there something about how the album was ripped that is tripping up the SB? just this one album? what level of flac compression does it use? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB3 (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Outdoors: Boom Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62691 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
pippin;417644 Wrote: Could you file a ticket? https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/wiki Hi pippin, a ticket is filed (#51). -- rossi CD Ripstation Micro QNAP209 (2*1TB) SC7.2.1 Allnet Powerline Ethernet SB Duet/iPeng on IPod Touch/Linn Numerik Triodesound Jona _or_ Sonus Faber Musica Lowther Fidelio (PM6A) _or_ DIY with Goodmans Twinaxiom 8 both supported by an ATS bass corner horn ears brain mood feet (or not) rossi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21599 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RokuLabs - No more soundbridge
sander;417782 Wrote: I never owned one of the their players, but I hope they continue to advertise on Heartland Country radio. Huh? Why, do you own the radio station? /puzzled MC -- ModelCitizen On average people have fewer than two feet. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62643 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Last.fm becoming pay-service.
On my last.fm web page it tells me that my 30 free tracks have been used up and sure enough I can't listen via my PC but my Last.fm stations still play through my SB using SqueezeNetwork?! -- benp benp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21779 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61752 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to get Winamp to play FLAC stream from SqueezeCenter
Yes this does accomplish lossless playback. And - that's right! - you CAN get the actual file location as a link in SqueezeCenter, so clicking on the actual file location in SqueezeCenter will play the file with the file's default application- which can be Winamp. Yes, this works. There are 5,000 CDs / 43,000 tracks / 1.5 TB in my library, having the search / album art / track info functions of Squeezecenter is really useful, as opposed to just a Windows Explorer view of the folders. So, yes, this works, hadn't thought of using SqueezeCenter as an interface to the file share. Brilliant! Thanks. -- milosz milosz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to get Winamp to play FLAC stream from SqueezeCenter
Squeezeslave - I don't know Squeezeslave. Have to look at that. Sounds like that would work, a background app that would play whatever the SqueezeCenter interface selects. Yes, that would be fine. Another good idea! Thanks! -- milosz milosz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RokuLabs - No more soundbridge
sander;417782 Wrote: I never owned one of the their players, but I hope they continue to advertise on Heartland Country radio. I can't imagine buying ads to inform people of a (soon to be) dead product line. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62643 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Last.fm becoming pay-service.
benp;418054 Wrote: On my last.fm web page it tells me that my 30 free tracks have been used up and sure enough I can't listen via my PC but my Last.fm stations still play through my SB using SqueezeNetwork?! Same for me. I started it up via SqueezeCenter and it ran for 8 hours without stopping. And another funny thing - on my last.fm page there is a link to What's New - which takes me to a blog for 17th July 2008! Here they announce the New Last.fm. Am I stuck in a time warp before all of the 'pay to play' stuff started? davep -- davep davep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61752 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RokuLabs - No more soundbridge
I'd like to think it was Slimdevices (i.e. Seans) commitment to the -highest- possible sound reproduction with the Squeezebox, that led to it's success over the competition. And I pray that under Logitech's ownership, that philosophy will continue. What we need next, is a 24/192 capable device at a price point lower than the Transporter. -- sleepysurf main system: sb2 (with elpac linear psu) benchmark dac-1 modwright swl 9.0se belles 350a reference ml summits. audience au24e and blue jeans cables. secondary systems: sb3 in master br (russound r235ls amp driving in-ceiling speaker) and game room (powered swan s200a speakers), with boom in home office. sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62643 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] album plays on SS but not SB
Just this one album. The bitrate is 950-990 VBR. -- UNCMo96 UNCMo96's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11386 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62691 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] album plays on SS but not SB
UNCMo96;418086 Wrote: Just this one album. The bitrate is 950-990 VBR. Not the bitrate... the compression level (Flac = 0-8 I think). I recall an issue if compression level 8 was used, but can't quite recall the full story... Best thing to do is to convert to WAV temporarily and make sure it plays OK then re-FLAC it. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB3 (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Outdoors: Boom Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62691 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] New Router Recommendations
After years of faithful service my Belkin Pre-N router is having connectivity issues and needs to be replaced. Up to now, I loved the Belkin Pre-N for its range and reliability. I have two SB2, one Transporter, and hope to get a SB Controller someday. Is there a well-reviewed router out there that suits my needs - reliability and range. Cost is not really an object, but reliability is. I prefer to get one of the newer N routers or dual band if possible to keep on the bleeding edge. -- bboplive bboplive's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3246 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62702 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Router Recommendations
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62392highlight=router -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62702 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] sound quality
My assumption is that if I play my music out of the optical connection on any Slim Devices player there should be no difference in sound as DAC quality of the player does not come into it. Am I correct in that assumption? That is, a $2000 Transporter and a $120 Receiver should sound exactly the same as far as their optical outputs are concerned. -- barrygordon barrygordon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62713 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
barrygordon;418137 Wrote: My assumption is that if I play my music out of the optical connection on any Slim Devices player there should be no difference in sound as DAC quality of the player does not come into it. Am I correct in that assumption? That is, a $2000 Transporter and a $120 Receiver should sound exactly the same as far as their optical outputs are concerned. Maybe and then again maybe not. There certainly won't be much in it. The end result you achieve will depend greatly on the DAC. Also, optical toslink MAY or may not be as good as spdif with some DAC's... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB3 (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Outdoors: Boom Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62713 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
Exactly the same? It may depend on the DAC and replay chain you are feeding. S/PDIF optical and through the RCA socket is compromised to some degree. An RCA phono socket is the silliest connector to use, but . . . boxes built to consumer standards seem to love them. The Transporter, of course, supports up to 24/96. The lesser boxes only up to 16/48. How much difference this will make in practice, I cannot say. -- Labarum Brian Squeezebox 3 Classic and Virgin Cable Box Beresford DAC TC-7510 MK6/4 - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man Quart 980s Speakers Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62713 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
Perhaps I wasn't being clear. Lets forget about the Audio chain after the player for the moment. Will the exact same digital stream be put out by all of the players to their digital outputs i.e. optical or coxial. I guess that is my question. I own every type of player that Slim Devices sells, but I have very old ears. In theory however, in the configuration I am discussing, the DAC's in the player should not be used. There should just be a digital format conversion from FLAC to LPCM out of the digital output, or am I missing something? If it is just a format conversion then all digital outoputs should be the same. -- barrygordon barrygordon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62713 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
Okay guestions bring answers and ansers bring more questions. I understand about the 24/96 vs 16/48, but other than that... Addressing the connector - so what. It is a digital stream. If all the bits get transmitted with negligible jitter ( a whole other discussion, as I do not believe in it at the rates we are talking about) who cares what the connector or medium of transfer (photons vs electrons) is. Why/how can it make a difference. I am a digital (hardware and software) engineer with 47 years in the field before I retired, So I know that subject fairly well. -- barrygordon barrygordon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62713 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
barrygordon;418137 Wrote: My assumption is that if I play my music out of the optical connection on any Slim Devices player there should be no difference in sound as DAC quality of the player does not come into it. Am I correct in that assumption? That is, a $2000 Transporter and a $120 Receiver should sound exactly the same as far as their optical outputs are concerned. Let's assume CD-quality (16 bits per channel x 44.1kHz) is good enough and you aren't going to be buying high-rez FLAC downloads from audiophile music labels. Then, the only difference could be the clock stability of the source and jitter on edge transitions. The external DAC has to lock onto and recover the clock from a single stream containing both the data and an implied clock. The quality of that waveform, in particular the slope of the transitions between ones and zeros can make a difference to how jittery the recovered clock winds up. True, this is more a function of the counter measures taken inside the DAC, but to a degree it depends on the transmitted waveform quality as well. In fact, that is a reason that an electrical coax connection has the potential to be better, as it can be made very wide band. If the bandwidth is constrained, then you have a low pass filter which causes previous bits to influence the present bit, also known as ISI. This again causes edge-jitter which can impact the quality of the recovered clock. All this can sound like audiophilia nervosa, but it is scientifically quantifiable and mathematically correct. The only question is how important is it? Most good, modern DACs are designed to mitigate such effects to a large degree. So, depending on the level of ambition you have for your sound quality and the quality of your down-stream audio equipment you may not be able to hear the difference. In fact, the balance of probability is that you won't hear a difference. My summary: Using a Transporter purely for digital-out makes *most* sense if you think you are going to collect music in higher-than-CD resolution, but also has some theoretical justification if you are going all-out for a no-compromise system and really want to avoid all possible sources of jitter, real or imagined. (But in that case, use the coax output.) -- dsdreamer -- Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you... dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62713 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RokuLabs - No more soundbridge
tamanaco;417665 Wrote: Well, their Roku video box is not that good either. They recently got Amazon HD content, but their box does not appear to support Dolby 5.1 sound. Tivo and Vudu boxes support Dolby 5.1. I own a Vudu box and I believe it has the best PQ (HDX) for VOD out there. To bad Vudu hasn't partnered with Netflix. That's the deal breaker for me... -- notec notec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23175 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62643 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
dsdreamer, thank you for the very well constructed and intelligent reply (no denigration to other replies intended). Yes with clock reconstruction as you indicated, there is the case for some waveform edge jitter, but as I said I have old ears so maybe I just waste money on my toys. The downstream audio is handled by the new Cary Cinema11A which IMHO has a superb sound and is fed into an outlaw 7 channel amp into 7 acoustically matched BW speakers. Bass is done by a Velodyne servo sub. I do have a large collection of ripped DTS tracks and some very high end multichannel audio from some of the smaller labels. I buy DTS multichannel CD's whenever I can. I do use the Transporter in the Music room/theater, Squeezeboxes in the master bedroom and for whole house audio, a receiver for the guest bedroom and a squeezebox for the pool deck. All music is controlled by a set of Pronto PRO remotes running an application that provides full control and full visual feedback from the Squeezecenter of all players. Once again, thanks to all who replied. -- barrygordon barrygordon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62713 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RokuLabs - No more soundbridge
sleepysurf;418085 Wrote: I'd like to think it was Slimdevices (i.e. Seans) commitment to the -highest- possible sound reproduction with the Squeezebox, that led to it's success over the competition. And I pray that under Logitech's ownership, that philosophy will continue. What we need next, is a 24/192 capable device at a price point lower than the Transporter. Kudos to the entire Squeezebox team for proving that quality, plus stellar support, still thrives! The fact the the soundbridge's had shocking poor build quality did not help. TBH though i think SC's continual improvement and vastly superior feature set helped. -- autopilot Cheers, auto. -don't call me Shirley.- autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62643 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
Eh the lesser boxes are actually doing 24/48 not only 16/48 . SC is transcoding 24/96 to 24/48 for the lesser players. Imho a SB3 or SBR will do just fine as a transport The edge the TP has is 96kHz . I have a whooping 20-30 albums of these among my 1440 albums. And a clock input which can be used if your dac has clock output. In practice, with my old ears and declining hearing, i find my SB3 identical to my Meridian G98DH dvd player as a source into my my Meridian G68J HT processor/preamp on CD material (16/44) on hi-rez the meridian wins. -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62713 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
You were very clear, but the matter is not as clear as you would like it to be. The Transporter and the lesser boxes all claim to be bitperfect, but data can be lost or corrupted in the transfer to you DAC. Whether you can hear this will depend to some degree on the resolution of the DAC and the following analogue replay chain. In my opinion, you would need to have an extremely high quality replay chain to here the engineering imperfections of the Slimdevices/DAC interface. The problem playing of 24/96 files is resolved in the latest versions of Slimserver - it will downsample on the fly. Again, whether you can hear the difference between 24/96 and 16/48 will depend on the resolution of your replay chain - and that of your own ears! -- Labarum Brian Squeezebox 3 Classic and Virgin Cable Box Beresford DAC TC-7510 MK6/4 - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man Quart 980s Speakers Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62713 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
barrygordon wrote: Okay guestions bring answers and ansers bring more questions. I understand about the 24/96 vs 16/48, but other than that... Addressing the connector - so what. It is a digital stream. If all the bits get transmitted with negligible jitter ( a whole other discussion, as I do not believe in it at the rates we are talking about) who cares what the connector or medium of transfer (photons vs electrons) is. Why/how can it make a difference. I am a digital (hardware and software) engineer with 47 years in the field before I retired, So I know that subject fairly well. I tend to agree with you. Ones and zeros are ones and zeros unless they aren't... Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
Mnyb wrote: Eh the lesser boxes are actually doing 24/48 not only 16/48 . Do you really mean 48? or 44.1? -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RokuLabs - No more soundbridge
The Roku/Netflix box has poor build quality as well, but for $99 it's not a bad deal, if you already have a Netflix subscription. They say more, newer movies will be added over the next few months. We'll see. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62643 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Software Player Synchronisation Rallying call!
andyg;401665 Wrote: Bottom line, it is not possible to get perfect sync with a software player for every possible OS/soundcard combo right out of the box. The latency in the OS, sound card driver, etc is just out of our control. There are several knobs you can tweak in the sync preferences to try to get perfect sync. If sync is very important to you, you can always pick up additional hardware players which do work out of the box. :) What may be useful is for someone to create a wiki page listing known-good OS/soundcard combinations that are able to sync, and to post your sync preference values. In summary, there are two elements that stand out : 1/ the synchronisation of players (hardware or software) is a key functionnality for customers 2/ the synchronisation of a software player is technicaly almost impossible. Maybe the solution could be that Logitech develops a module to help users to find the corect set of paramters to synchronize the softsqueeze. For instance, this modules would cast a rythm in the soft squeeze and users would have to click a button on each pulse : this may enable the module to compute the correct parameters no ? Another solution could be to cast in the platines to sync a rythm, the user would the adjust a parameter with real time effect on the sync : he could then easily find the correct value to sync his softsqueeze. My suggestions may be wrong or incomplete since i don't really know the cause of synchronisation problems, but i am pretty sure there is a way to enable users to easily find the correct values of the 4 parameters (unless someone has a method but i didn't understood how to modify these 4 values...) -- Benibur Benibur's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29891 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60075 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
pfarrell;418177 Wrote: Do you really mean 48? or 44.1? 48khz is the maximum output frequency of the normal players. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/HardwareComparison -- funkstar my collection: *1*x boom *2*x controller, *1*x receiver *2*x sb3 (sliver/black, *1*x sb2 wired (silver), *1*x sb (black) *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) interested in any others if you have them! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62713 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
funkstar wrote: 48khz is the maximum output frequency of the normal players. Yes, but there is not a lot of material using that maximum. All RedBook is 44.1 -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sound quality
pfarrell;418186 Wrote: funkstar wrote: 48khz is the maximum output frequency of the normal players. Yes, but there is not a lot of material using that maximum. All RedBook is 44.1 -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ Yes quite so, I only seen 48k with 96k tra -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62713 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Nightly Builds Download Broken (readynas sparc)
Download is still broken (2009-04-25) Who can fix it? Regards Kim -- Kim Kruse Kim Kruse's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4978 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
quite a few bugs in this release unfortunately...will collect them and post -- panos_k75 panos_k75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18149 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Cant connect to SqCent. thru Rangemax
I've just move into a new sharhouse with a ready established connection, running a Speedstream 6520. I've set up Squeezecentre on my HTPC, and my Squeezebox3 is accessing it wirelessly. No problems there. The Speedstream has crappy rang, so I decidedto bridge it to my Netgear WPN824 Rangemax (router only). Set up PPPOE of the rangemax, set the speedstream to dumb modem bridge. No problems, HTPC and Laptop connect and get gateway fine. SB3 can connect, gets IP no problem. It can see the HTPC (correct IP and MAC address), but when I select Connect to HTPC if shows waiting to connect and nothing more. Will not connect to Squeezecentre. HTPC has same IP on both routers. Any suggestions? -- heffa -- Yeah, it's all cow. heffa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9939 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62727 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
