Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox
west_sounds;524380 Wrote: ive been playing with the squeeze centre all night and i have really come to the conclusion now that it is terrible. I gave it a few days just to make sure i wasnt being unfair but the SB software is absolutely dismal. the hardware is first class probably the best out there but it is horribly let down with its software. even playing with the moose interface is awful. its just slow and clunky to use. they have a great product here which could be so much better its a shame. there is no way i could live with that software I have just uninstalled the lot, squeezecentre, squeezeplay and moose. as good as the hardware is because of the software it is not for me, I will wait for an alternative. The way technology is moving on I shouldnt have to wait too long. Hopefully some of the software writers will get something sorted for it soon. I know its may be personal preference and I even considered getting rid of Albumplayer if the software was OK but there really is no contest. Out of curiousity I downloaded the demo version of AlbumPlayer - here are my initial impressions (which are obviously skewed by the fact I am not familiar with the software!) 1) took 45 minutes+ to scan in my 32k Track database + about 15 more minutes to finish off gathering the artwork from my cover.jpg files - so about half the speed of 7.5Embedded on the same machine. CPU was pretty 50% pegged during this time (single core machine). 2) No handling of multi-disc sets 3) search/filter function works on songs or artist or album titles - but not across all 3 at once. However, it does use progresive keystroke matching (like MusicIP). Partially because of the progressive matching, the searching is extremely quick - a few milliseconds after your last keystroke, compared to about a second on SBS 4) No integration with MIP that I could yet find (?) 5) the browse lists are horrible - well, the lists are OK but the scrolling gives me a headache as it jerks around - it's hard to explain in words what it does but I don't like it. 6) The app has a slightly Windows Media Player ish feel to it 7) the inbuilt tag editing is... dangerous 8) The artist browse supports artist artwork, which is nice, although I don't want to be reminded what a lot of 60's rock bands actually looked like :-) All in all, it looks like a nice app if you like the Windows highly graphical approach. It is quick (but does anyone really need that speed? - I like to relax when listening to music...) Of course,the lack of MIP, multi-room sync, dependency on a Windows PC etc make it a rather different sort of application. Just thought I'd offer an alternate view... Phil -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76038 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox
west_sounds;524380 Wrote: there is no way i could live with that software I have just uninstalled the lot, squeezecentre, squeezeplay and moose. as good as the hardware is because of the software it is not for me, I will wait for an alternative. The way technology is moving on I shouldnt have to wait too long. Hopefully some of the software writers will get something sorted for it soon. Then again, you never wanted Squeezebox to begin with. What you wanted was some kind of wirelessly attached remote soundcard, sort of, and that's not really what Squeezebox is about. Never has been and I dare say it never will be. I think you will be have better luck with products that follow a paradigm closer to what you want rather than trying to get Squeezebox to do something it was never intended to do. -- alfista alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76038 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox
SB players are about not needing direct computer interaction for music playback combined with excellent audio output. Id bet the vast majority of SB users access the web UI control mostly for management, settings, and maintenance purposes. For enjoying their music collection (or the extensive list of offered Music Services) they just use the hardware remotes (IR, Controller, iPhone, iTouch, Nokia, etc ). I do understand your desire for web UI usage for all playback control, many would agree with you and do so themselves. Its just not what I and the typical SB user desire for playback usage. SBS will never win any UI design competitions as this is not the focus of this server platform. It aint pretty, but its interface with SB players is beautiful! :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76038 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] nokia phone as a remote
indifference_engine;524338 Wrote: This sounds like it may be full of eastern promise and might give us non-iphone users something akin to ipeng. It also has the advantage of supporting lots of devices but could be limited by the host app. Are there any screenshots anywhere of this working on a previous release of SC? I don't know anything about java or JSON but I can only think that adapting this to run on SC7.4 s going to be a whole lot easier than writing an app from scratch. It's just a shame that I don't know how to do it! Sorry can't find any screenshots, but it looks similar to the one I made for MediaMonkey around the same time, which I have found a screenshot of (below). If I remember rightly, the title showed the name of the player. The code is all in the download 'here' (http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5567) if you (or anyone) fancies trying to update it. +---+ |Filename: IMG_3071.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9443| +---+ -- simbo *bedroom:* squeezebox boom; *study:* squeezebox 3; *lounge:* squeezeslave; *conservatory/garden:* squeezebox receiver; *anywhere:* squeezebox controller 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/buggle52) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56601 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox
toby10;524446 Wrote: SB players are about not needing direct computer interaction for music playback combined with excellent audio output. Id bet the vast majority of SB users access the web UI control mostly for management, settings, and maintenance purposes. For enjoying their music collection (or the extensive list of offered Music Services) they just use the hardware remotes (IR, Controller, iPhone, iTouch, Nokia, etc ). I do understand your desire for web UI usage for all playback control, many would agree with you and do so themselves. Its just not what I and the typical SB user desire for playback usage. SBS will never win any UI design competitions as this is not the focus of this server platform. It aint pretty, but its interface with SB players is beautiful! :) All good points - I keep forgetting I'm in the 1% that uses the WEB UI mostly (because I happen to have a screen/keyboard/mouse right next to where I sit to listen to my main system. On the Radio and Boom I mostly use the onboard knobs/controls. I only ever use the Touch IR (actually a Harmony One) to start a firmware upgrade or do a hardware reset... :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76038 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox
I'm a very satisfied web ui user. Sometimes I even prefer it over iPeng. -- bernt 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3, SB BOOM - SC 7.4.2 - vortex...@hp SFF iPod Touch\iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76038 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] nokia phone as a remote
hmaki;524329 Wrote: I'm writing a Squeezebox remote for N900 in Python + GTK.Good going! I was looking at developing for Maemo, but setting up the development environment was ridiculously hard. Days of fussing and still problems. Switched to Android and was building stuff in a half hour. IMO Nokia really fell down here. I'd still rather be working in Python - my favorite language ever - and I'm an assembly/C guy from way back. I've still got an N800 in a box somewhere, and would be glad to help - if I can get the dev environment setup. I'm hoping it's gotten lots easier in the last couple of years. -- bobkoure bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56601 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is it possible? PC Albumplayer (a windows media player) direct to Squeezebox
Phil Leigh;524405 Wrote: Out of curiousity I downloaded the demo version of AlbumPlayer - here are my initial impressions (which are obviously skewed by the fact I am not familiar with the software!) 1) took 45 minutes+ to scan in my 32k Track database + about 15 more minutes to finish off gathering the artwork from my cover.jpg files - so about half the speed of 7.5Embedded on the same machine. CPU was pretty 50% pegged during this time (single core machine). 2) No handling of multi-disc sets 3) search/filter function works on songs or artist or album titles - but not across all 3 at once. However, it does use progresive keystroke matching (like MusicIP). Partially because of the progressive matching, the searching is extremely quick - a few milliseconds after your last keystroke, compared to about a second on SBS 4) No integration with MIP that I could yet find (?) 5) the browse lists are horrible - well, the lists are OK but the scrolling gives me a headache as it jerks around - it's hard to explain in words what it does but I don't like it. 6) The app has a slightly Windows Media Player ish feel to it 7) the inbuilt tag editing is... dangerous 8) The artist browse supports artist artwork, which is nice, although I don't want to be reminded what a lot of 60's rock bands actually looked like :-) All in all, it looks like a nice app if you like the Windows highly graphical approach. It is quick (but does anyone really need that speed? - I like to relax when listening to music...) Of course,the lack of MIP, multi-room sync, dependency on a Windows PC etc make it a rather different sort of application. Just thought I'd offer an alternate view... Phil A lot of the settings you described above can be modified in the preferences page. things like album tag editing can be changed so one one can alter them there is a fair bit to it. Its the SB hardware that I would really like as they use great dacs and are know for their high quality sound. I have found something which may be more of what im after but its such a new product that there are no reviews on it yet , the QED u-play. I may risk it and buy the QED or I have also downloaded a trial version of the airfoil software for the airport express which works very well with AP apart from a slight delay in the sound. -- west_sounds west_sounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36895 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76038 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3
bpa;519597 Wrote: Softsqueeze is suitable because I know JavaSound only support 44.1kHz and 48kHz sampling same as SB3 whereas IIRC Squeezeplay and Squeezeslave used to have problems with 48kHz. I cannot get squeezesoft to play 24/96 files. They play fine on my transporter but when I listen to them on my computer I just get static. What should I be checking to see why this isn't working? -- dminches Modwright Platinum Signature Truth modified Transporter Modwright SWL 9.0 SE Aragon 8008BB Vandersteen 3A Sigs w/ Vandersteen WQ (2 channel system) dminches's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75506 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] nokia phone as a remote
dave77;524331 Wrote: Have you considered doing it in QT as that will cover maemo and symbian? There's a 'PyQT' (http://pyqt.garage.maemo.org/) specifically for maemo. Compared to Maemo, there's a huge number of Symbian smartphones out there. No idea how many have a screen worth bothering with, though. I'm assuming you're using 'pysqueezecenter' (http://code.google.com/p/pysqueezecenter/). If not, have a look - it's a python library encapsulating the SBS CLI. Looks pretty complete even though it's rev 0.6. OK - I'm interested enough now to go look at setting up a Maemo development environment. Lookout wall - here comes my head, yet again... :) -- bobkoure bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56601 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] nokia phone as a remote
Yes, I was thinking of switching to PyQt once it gets more stable. But now that MeeGo has announced official support to GTK I'll perhaps just stick with it for the time being. I'm coding with the Scratchbox in Ubuntu VirtualBox. I got it up and running pretty smoothly with the instructions given at maemo.org. I'm too very fond of Python. This is my first project in Python and GTK too, so I'm learning all the time. I did also find pysqueezecenter but found it lacking some functionality so I've pretty modified it quite a bit. Needed non-blocking requests, queuing requests, subscriptions to event notifivations from the server. Also replaced telnet with bare TCP sockets. -- hmaki hmaki's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36928 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56601 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.2 for iPhone now on the AppStore
pippin;524382 Wrote: iPeng 1.2.1 has been out for a while now but the User's manual was not completely up to speed with this release. Now, this has changed. Have fun! Thanks Pippin, I shall give it to my wife to read! -- killie99 Musical Fidelity KW250S, Impulse H2 speakers, SB3, Duet a Boom and another Boom killie99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8337 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68698 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.2 for iPhone now on the AppStore
I just pre-ordered an iPad this morning. Clearly, it (and other slate devices) could be a game-changer in that you can easily use the SqueezeCenter web interface in its full glory, something that was obviously not possible on smaller devices. Hence, the need for applications like iPeng on the iPhone. Android has several apps, too. In light of this new class of devices, will we see an iPeng specifically for the iPad? Perhaps, with the larger format, there are a whole new host of applications that would make sense. Any thoughts? -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL '*Site*' (http://www.ezdiyaudio.com)| '*RSS*' (http://www2.kumc.edu/students/ezamir/rss/ezdiyaudio.xml) |'*Forum*' (http://ezdiyaudio.informe.com) ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68698 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.2 for iPhone now on the AppStore
ezkcdude;524513 Wrote: In light of this new class of devices, will we see an iPeng specifically for the iPad? Perhaps, with the larger format, there are a whole new host of applications that would make sense. Any thoughts? Have you seen this? http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581highlight=ipad -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? -Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback included: yeah, it's good... got the odd dodgy track tho...- (c) 'ModelCitizen' (http://www.last.fm/user/Modelcitizen) Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68698 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] anyone using 7.5 embedded?
mherger;524304 Wrote: - any noticeable speedup in the WebUI? when artwork is involved then there's a huge improvement Is your artwork embedded or cover.jpg/folder.jpg? Mine is cover.jpg and the improvement only seems marginal to me. Certainly not huge. Yet. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76099 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] anyone using 7.5 embedded?
- the hardware you're using Buffalo Linkstation LS-XHL (1TB disk, ARM 9 CPU @ 1.2Gz) - general size of your music collection 7.5k tracks - any noticeable speedup in the WebUI? Yes, it's faster for me on this hardware than 7.3.3 used to be on an AMD Athon XP PC. - whether it works with MusicIP (if you use that) Didn't try. - any problems with squeezeslave Didn't try. -- dsdreamer -- Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you... dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76099 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] anyone using 7.5 embedded?
Yep, embedded has a new artwork cache that is about 10x faster than the old one. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76099 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Synced Players
I'm looking to use a couple squeezeboxes as a multi-zone music system some day (a la Sonos). I'm curious for people with multiple squeezeboxes, how close are two players when they are in sync? Is there a noticeable delay, or a sort of echoing effect? -- gnnash gnnash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36644 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.2 for iPhone now on the AppStore
Siduhe;524517 Wrote: Have you seen this? http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581highlight=ipad Thanks! -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL '*Site*' (http://www.ezdiyaudio.com)| '*RSS*' (http://www2.kumc.edu/students/ezamir/rss/ezdiyaudio.xml) |'*Forum*' (http://ezdiyaudio.informe.com) ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68698 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
I ordered an iPad this morning. Whatever the iPeng app is, there has to be a convincing case made to me that it does more than the SC web interface. Otherwise, I'll just use that. -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL '*Site*' (http://www.ezdiyaudio.com)| '*RSS*' (http://www2.kumc.edu/students/ezamir/rss/ezdiyaudio.xml) |'*Forum*' (http://ezdiyaudio.informe.com) ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synced Players
gnnash;524543 Wrote: I'm looking to use a couple squeezeboxes as a multi-zone music system some day (a la Sonos). I'm curious for people with multiple squeezeboxes, how close are two players when they are in sync? Is there a noticeable delay, or a sort of echoing effect? 10ms. No echo. Not noticeable. The biggest difference you'll see will be from different range to the speakers. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synced Players
I get no noticeable delay or echoing with hardware SBs. Software players (SoftSqueeze, SqueezePlay, squeezeslave) and the headphone jack of the SB Controller do not sync reliably. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] anyone using 7.5 embedded?
Wow, I'm not seeing that at all. I just compared loading album pages (large artwork sorted Artist/year/album) between 7.4.2 and 7.5.0-embedded and the load times are almost identical. Say around 9-10 seconds for 50-70 albums. I installed the latest nightly (r30366), did a clear and rescan, and then hit different parts of the alpha index on the albums page, and get the same results. The 7.5e is running in a VM on the same box as 7.4.2, so it's not a perfectly fair comparison. Two differences that come to mind are (1) the VM only has 400MB RAM vs. 1.6GB for the host, though the VM doesn't appear to be swapping at all (2) the VM mounts the music library via CIFS, whereas the host (7.4.2) accesses the library directly. But if it's caching in the db that's improved, I wouldn't think that the CIFS delay would matter. Are these platform differences likely explanations, or is there some other reason anyone can think of why I'm not seeing the speed increase. The album art is mostly cover.jpg, usually betwenn 300x300 and 500x500. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76099 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] anyone using 7.5 embedded?
aubuti;524573 Wrote: Wow, I'm not seeing that at all. I just compared loading album pages (large artwork sorted Artist/year/album) between 7.4.2 and 7.5.0-embedded and the load times are almost identical. Say around 9-10 seconds for 50-70 albums. In the web interface it doesn't affect the time needed to generate the web page itself, only how quickly the artwork subsequently loads. If you're experiencing 10 second times before seeing a page, then the snappier album art retrieval isn't going to make much of a difference. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76099 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ezkcdude;524547 Wrote: I ordered an iPad this morning. Whatever the iPeng app is, there has to be a convincing case made to me that it does more than the SC web interface. Otherwise, I'll just use that. Funny, I'm just the opposite. I'm thinking about buying an iPAD just so I can run a larger interface iPeng on it! (I'm a happy user of iPeng on my iPhone at the moment as well.) -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ezkcdude;524547 Wrote: a convincing case Ipeng gives so much more functionality to the system. It really makes it a pleasure to discover and change music. The web interface is doesnt even come close. What iPeng shows that the web interface doesnt: Playlist list of songs in album or playlist and can pick any of them to play and to not play Can synchronize squeezeboxes Interactive services a song playing from one app can be found on another service very easily without having to start over just like on the squeezebox now playing screen itself. For example, a song found on shoutcast can be found also on last.fm, Pandora, rhapsody and slacker with one finger press. So then I can find the same song on the alternative app and start an entirely new playlist or album very quickly. Bitrate info Elapsed time and Time remaining Flickr pictures of the artist -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ezkcdude;524547 Wrote: I ordered an iPad this morning. Whatever the iPeng app is, there has to be a convincing case made to me that it does more than the SC web interface. Otherwise, I'll just use that. It's obvious that you haven't used iPeng or the other iPhone apps. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Options for High Resolution on My Computer
bpa;524378 Wrote: Softsqueeze doesn't play 24/96 because 24/96 is passed unchanged to Softsqueeze as it is setup to emulate a Transporter and Javasound doesn't support 24/96. You should try squeezeslave as it has a different audio subsystem. AFAIK, squeezeslave will not do 24/96 either. -- fphredd fphredd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76103 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote access to my library?
ejance;524363 Wrote: guys thanks so much. it was the fact that i didn't open up port 3483 for udp. now it i can use squeezeplay to access my music remotely and im thrilled! a few follow-up questions: what are the risks of having these ports open? a couple of you mentioned using alternatives to use because of this. i have searched high and low for stream.mp3 but cannot find it. what is it exactly? the one thing that i could not stream on squeezeplay for whatever reason were favorites on the sbs that were internet radio stations. i could only stream the music stored locally on the pc running sbs. not a huge deal, but it would be nice to be able to listen to my favorites as well. any reason why they do not stream? You can stream to programs like winamp and itunes by pointing them to your server at: http://server ip:9000/stream.mp3 Of course, you would still have to use the webUI or a remote Controller to select the music.. p -- pski real stereo doesn't wake neighbors (it enrages them) pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75558 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: VortexBox 1.2 released
I got a lot of return code 0 dialog boxes during upgrade. The first attempt ended after package resolution, so I tried again. After restart, choosing the Squeezebox server icon from the base web UI tries to load http://:9000 I'll try again on another VM copy and type more later. P -- pski real stereo doesn't wake neighbors (it enrages them) pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76082 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
erland;524580 Wrote: It's obvious that you haven't used iPeng or the other iPhone apps. Is that a prerequisite? -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL '*Site*' (http://www.ezdiyaudio.com)| '*RSS*' (http://www2.kumc.edu/students/ezamir/rss/ezdiyaudio.xml) |'*Forum*' (http://ezdiyaudio.informe.com) ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
mortslim;524577 Wrote: Ipeng gives so much more functionality to the system. It really makes it a pleasure to discover and change music. The web interface doesnt even come close. What iPeng shows that the web interface doesnt: Playlist list of songs in album or playlist and can pick any of them to play and to not play Can synchronize squeezeboxes Interactive services a song playing from one app can be found on another service very easily without having to start over just like on the squeezebox now playing screen itself. For example, a song found on shoutcast can be found also on last.fm, Pandora, rhapsody and slacker with one finger press. So then I can find the same song on the alternative app and start an entirely new playlist or album very quickly. Bitrate info Elapsed time and Time remaining Flickr pictures of the artist Does iPeng do MusicIP mixes? -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL '*Site*' (http://www.ezdiyaudio.com)| '*RSS*' (http://www2.kumc.edu/students/ezamir/rss/ezdiyaudio.xml) |'*Forum*' (http://ezdiyaudio.informe.com) ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ezkcdude;524605 Wrote: Is that a prerequisite? Yes, no comment without experience. Dave -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ezkcdude Wrote: Does iPeng do MusicIP mixes? That's the one feature I really care about. Without that ability I would never use something else. Of course it does :) That said: iPeng for iPad is still a bit out and even though I di have a general design I'm still taking suggestions. For the iPad launch there will definitely only the iPhone version be available. I might try to stretch it out a bit to make better use of screen space for iPad but that would be it. iPad only launches in Europe end of April (no date announced yet) and I definitely want real HW to play around with before I finalize any designs. I don't believe you can design this for usability on a simulator. Considering to get an iPad from the US, though, just to be sure. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
I'll keep an eye out for it. I have one suggestion, that you may want to consider for the iPhone and iPad. (If you already have this feature, my apologies.) It would be cool to use GPS information to find upcoming gigs in the local area of whatever band you're listening to or similar-sounding bands (perhaps, using MusicIP). -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL '*Site*' (http://www.ezdiyaudio.com)| '*RSS*' (http://www2.kumc.edu/students/ezamir/rss/ezdiyaudio.xml) |'*Forum*' (http://ezdiyaudio.informe.com) ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Cool idea! Could you file a ticket for this? https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/ -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;524638 Wrote: Cool idea! Could you file a ticket for this? https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/ Ok, just did. It's ticket #220. I also suggested that for Wi-Fi only (non-GPS) iPads, the user could enter in their zip code manually. In general, I think that location-based and geotagging features are really going to be important going forward. This is only one example, I'm sure others could contribute many such ideas. -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL '*Site*' (http://www.ezdiyaudio.com)| '*RSS*' (http://www2.kumc.edu/students/ezamir/rss/ezdiyaudio.xml) |'*Forum*' (http://ezdiyaudio.informe.com) ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ezkcdude;524644 Wrote: Ok, just did. It's ticket #220. Thanks! I also suggested that for Wi-Fi only (non-GPS) iPads, the user could enter in their zip code manually. Agree, although I don't think this will be necessary unless you are in a pretty remote area. Google is pretty good at locating stuff through WiFi these days. Hey, they know EVERYTHING about you. Where I live - ok a pretty urban area - the WiFi location on my iTouch is about as good as the GPS one on my iPhone. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synced Players
The latest releases of SBS has improved sync quality dramatically, IMO. The players will still get slightly out-of-sync from time to time (resulting in a slight echo), but it doesn't happen nearly as often for me as it used to. -- GeeJay GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezeplay and Squeezeslave
I touched on this on another thread, no answers, so figured I'd post it here. I would like to run both Squeezeplay and Squeezeslave on the same box, as it has a touch screen which I think would support Squeezeplay well, but I want to use the asio drivers of my soundcard, hence the inclusion of Squeezeslave (squeezeslave-asio). The problem is that squeezeslave isn't showing up within Squeezeslave. Should it? Can I make it? Thanks in advance, especially if your answer only points out operator error... -- fphredd fphredd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76144 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: VortexBox 1.2 released
did you reboot? -- agillis rip, tag, get cover art All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76082 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay and Squeezeslave
Does it show up in the SBS web interface? -- usch usch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33389 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76144 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Options for High Resolution on My Computer
SqueezeSlave will only do 44.1/16. Have you taken a look at VortexBox Player. It will do 192/24 and you don't need your computer on you can hook your preamp to your VortexBox NAS. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover art All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76103 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay and Squeezeslave
Never mind...downloaded latest Squeezeplay build and it shows up; don't know if they're related...don't care :D -- fphredd fphredd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76144 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: VortexBox 1.2 released
pski;524597 Wrote: I got a lot of return code 0 dialog boxes during upgrade. The first attempt ended after package resolution, so I tried again. After restart, choosing the Squeezebox server icon from the base web UI tries to load http://:9000 I'll try again on another VM copy and type more later. P A second server upgraded with yum update and restarted began a full rescan when restarted. As above, choosing the Squeezebox server icon from the base web UI tries to load http://:9000/ Please post the output of the following command: Code: ifconfig -- Ron Olsen Ron Olsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76082 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synced Players
I often sync my two Recievers and Radio. I have one spot where I can hear all three players. I cannot hear any delay or echo, ever. During the last year or so I have an issue once. The radio what ~ ½ second out of sync. It was so from the beginning and two presses on pause solved it. However they way you set up the sync from either an IR remote or a Controller is Less than optimal. If you have more than two players and want to switch sync on and off at a regular basis you simply *must* look at third party plugins or even thirdparty hardware (iPhone or other smartphone). Which is fair enough given the Slim-design-philosophy. Logitech provides the core functionality and if you want something more fancy, look for 3rd party software. (3rd party plugins that I know are worth looking at: OtherPlayers and the Synchronizer) -- Muele BR Mogens 1 Radio, 2 Controllers, 2 Receivers, 1 Squeezeplay. Served by an old 800 mhz IBM T21 Thinkpad. Muele's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21310 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ezkcdude;524547 Wrote: I ordered an iPad this morning. Whatever the iPeng app is, there has to be a convincing case made to me that it does more than the SC web interface. Otherwise, I'll just use that. I think that if you stick to the web interface and and after one year see iPeng at a friends i-Pod/Pad/Phone you will kick yourself in the nuts just about 365 times for not trying it out on day one. Is the prospect of not having to punish yourself for not giving out that pettycash enough case for you? :) :) -- Muele BR Mogens 1 Radio, 2 Controllers, 2 Receivers, 1 Squeezeplay. Served by an old 800 mhz IBM T21 Thinkpad. Muele's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21310 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
