Re: [slim] Android Controller App

2011-03-29 Thread hunta

erland;621578 Wrote: 
 I'm pretty sure that's always going to be the case as long as the third
 party offering exists, Logitech will limit themselves to the basic
 functionality because they aren't ready to invest enough to maintain
 all the extras, so third party solutions will always offer something
 more. We have seen exactly the same thing earlier with SlimScrobbler
 plugin and also with Spotify plugin.
 
 The issue, as already mentioned earlier in this thread, is that some
 users are going to be satisfied with the basics and won't buy the third
 party offering when they can get the basics for free from Logitech. The
 result on longer terms could be that third party developers no longer
 feel that it's worth to compete with Logitech since a significant part
 of their income probably comes from the users that deside to use the
 Logitech provided solution.
 
 So, even though a Logitech provided Android app might feel like a good
 idea, I am a bit worried about the consequences on longer terms.
 Hopefully I'm just unnecessary worried, but...
 
 It would feel a lot better if Logitech tried to work together with
 third parties instead of competing with them since they both want the
 same thing, more Squeezebox customers.

I agree completely. The way I see it though there'll always be a
distinguishing feature - Logitech are never going to introduce native
playback into a free app while their meat and potatoes is selling
hardware players and the server software is also free. Therefore anyone
who isn't Logitech and is interested in developing a rival product MUST
have that feature if they want to charge for their offering.

If that's the case then I think, as consumers, we have the best of both
worlds - a free official controller, or quality, paid,
added-functionality third party players.

I just hope Logitech aren't going to take moves to prevent that
happening.


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Re: [slim] 2 Simultaneous SB streams

2011-03-29 Thread toby10

On the other hand you could play the same stream in those additional
zones with just the SB3.
The only catch is that often AVR/amps limit zone playback to only
analog inputs, so using the SB3 you would have your main listening area
via digital out and zone 1 via analog out.
If your AVR/amp allows digital input for zone playback you would then
have three listening areas (main + zone 1 + zone 2) using the SB3's
three outputs (two digital, one analog).


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Re: [slim] SB3 Loops in reset

2011-03-29 Thread epoch1970

I've seen electronic devices fail to go through boot because the
external PSU was faulty. Maybe you want to check with another PSU ?
Never experienced this on a Squeezebox, though.


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Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...

2011-03-29 Thread socistep

Couple of things from me

1) Touch 2

Has been mentioned numerous times before, one of two options

- Upgraded CPU/memory etc. so that full server can be ran on device and
enabling USB HDD plugin to be successfull for all, I think this has the
potential to be a great feature as TinySBS has been well received by a
lot of people

- Integrated Touch with ripping solution, someone mentioned before but
a one stop box that rips/tags CD's and then acts as a player, this
would fully remove the 'server' element which confuses the masses.
Potentially like a Brennan JB7/vortexbox mixed with a SB Touch

2) Smart streaming

An update to the OS so that it brings in an element of 'smart'
decisioning on your music libraries

- Links Spotify, LastFM etc. with your local music more effectively
- Provides recommendations up front on new music or if an artist you
have in your collection releases a new album, again linking lastFM,
spotify etc. to your local music
- Download sync - You can easily download from Amazon, HDTracks etc.
into your SB via on screen rather then having to go onto seperate pc,
this would be powerful if you linked with recommendations

This could be a feature that you can turn on or off as required


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[slim] SB2/SB3: firmware on mysb.com != firmware on 7.5.3 release?

2011-03-29 Thread aubuti

I don't use mysb.com much, but lately I have been switching between
mysb.com and local SBS for various reasons. My local SBS is the release
version of 7.5.3, but whenever I switch between mysb and SBS my SB2s and
SB3 go through a firmware upgrade/downgrade. Is there new fw for these
players that is only on mysb? If so, is it the same as 7.5.4? 

Fyi, the fw of these players when on SBS is 133; I haven't looked to
see the fw version reported when on mysb. Thanks.


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Re: [slim] SB2/SB3: firmware on mysb.com != firmware on 7.5.3 release?

2011-03-29 Thread alfista

Yep, there's a mismatch. See
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=620486postcount=44

If your SB2/SB3 is set to not update FW automatically the display will
be blank if you connect to MySB with the older FW which some has
interpreted as the unit being broken.


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Re: [slim] Android Controller App

2011-03-29 Thread spile

hunta;621635 Wrote: 
 
 If that's the case then I think, as consumers, we have the best of both
 worlds - a free official controller, or quality, paid,
 added-functionality third party players.
 
Or a quality free controller - Squeezedroid


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Re: [slim] SB2/SB3: firmware on mysb.com != firmware on 7.5.3 release?

2011-03-29 Thread aubuti

Thanks, I hadn't paid attention to that thread. I'll upgrade to 7.5.4
today.


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Re: [slim] Amazon Cloud Player

2011-03-29 Thread autopilot

So this is basically like MP3tunes?

I'm not sure I understand the point. If your going to stream from the
cloud, why limit yourself to your own collection and not use
Spotifiy/Napster/Rhapsody? (especially considering, from what I read,
that you will need to pay for anything over 5gb and bitrates are
limited with Amazon)


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Re: [slim] Amazon Cloud Player

2011-03-29 Thread andyg

It's basically the same as MP3tunes with less format support and no
available API.  HTTPS streaming would be a problem too, but if it's
using S3 it'll hopefully support plain HTTP as well.


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Re: [slim] Amazon Cloud Player

2011-03-29 Thread likescookies

Playing music from the Amazon cloud makes a lot of sense to me. There
are times when I'd like to listen to an album that I own but don't want
the hassle of going and waking up the computer so the Boom can stream
from it. The Amazon system would solve that.


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Re: [slim] Amazon Cloud Player

2011-03-29 Thread Goodsounds

likescookies;621814 Wrote: 
 Playing music from the Amazon cloud makes a lot of sense to me. There
 are times when I'd like to listen to an album that I own but don't want
 the hassle of going and waking up the computer so the Boom can stream
 from it. The Amazon system would solve that.
With a simple one-time setup (simple for even a tech dummy like me),
you leave your PC at sleep instead of off and then when you want to
listen, the Boom (or any other SB) wakes your PC when you turn it on.
It's very easy and works consistently.


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[slim] Squeezebox Radio shows splitting some albums into two albums

2011-03-29 Thread markmi300

Noob here.

1st question:
Is there a detailed manual anywhere for setup of the Squeezebox Radio?
The manual that comes with the radio does not go into real detail of
any of the Radio settings.  And is pretty useless for information
regarding the Squeezebox server.  I’m getting tired of fumbling around
with my setup.

2nd questions and more important.  
I have an issue where when I display a listing of my mp3 albums on the
radio it shows duplicates.  The first album will have 1 or 2 songs. 
The second album will have the remainder of the songs.  How do I get
Squeeze box to show only one album with all the songs?   Most of the
MP3 tags for my collection were made through Media Monkey or Windows
Media Player.  I tried moving my Playlist folder outside of the Music
Source directory.  I’ve removed my playlist folder from the Music
Source configuration in Squeezebox Server.  I’ve done a cleanup
clearing cache, clearing the library and rescanning library, powered
off/on the Radio, but I still get some albums showing twice as
described above.
HELP!!

My configuration is:
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1
Squeezebox Server Version: 7.5.3 - r31792
Squeezebox Radio Player Model: Squeezebox Radio 
Firmware: 7.5.3-r9283

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Re: [slim] Amazon Cloud Player

2011-03-29 Thread likescookies

Like a wake on LAN setting? Interesting. Will look into this--thank
you.

Still, having to navigate up the tree to connect to the PC, then at the
end putting everything back the way it was so my wife doesn't get mad at
me would definitely still lend some appeal to the free Amazon solution.


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Re: [slim] Amazon Cloud Player

2011-03-29 Thread Henry66

Wake on LAN turns my computer on from a cold shutdown (not sleep mode).
In fact, this is how I turn my computer on most mornings.

I believe there is also a Server Power Control addon that can also turn
the server computer off when desired.


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Re: [slim] Amazon Cloud Player

2011-03-29 Thread aubuti

likescookies;621843 Wrote: 
 Like a wake on LAN setting? Interesting. Will look into this--thank
 you.
 
 Still, having to navigate up the tree to connect to the PC, then at the
 end putting everything back the way it was so my wife doesn't get mad at
 me would definitely still lend some appeal to the free Amazon solution.
Not like but WOL, but WOL, pure and simple. And there's no setting,
other than the power button on the Boom (or the Boom's remote). When
the Boom (or other SB) powers on it sends a WOL magic packet to the
last server it was connected to.


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Re: [slim] 2 Simultaneous SB streams

2011-03-29 Thread spooley

Thanks

Can you confirm that you can use the analog and digital outputs from
one SB at the same time (for the same stream).

Thanks.


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Re: [slim] Amazon Cloud Player

2011-03-29 Thread Mark Miksis

andyg;621757 Wrote: 
 It's basically the same as MP3tunes with less format support and no
 available API.  HTTPS streaming would be a problem too, but if it's
 using S3 it'll hopefully support plain HTTP as well.

I'm assuming it uses S3, but I don't know.  Also, AFAICT, there is no
http streaming for SB support.  You have to use the web player or
Android player.

OT, it also seems to want to compete with other (non-music) cloud
storage services, but at 4X the cost of Google Apps.


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Re: [slim] Amazon Cloud Player

2011-03-29 Thread pmerrill

andyg;621757 Wrote: 
 It's basically the same as MP3tunes with less format support and no
 available API.  HTTPS streaming would be a problem too, but if it's
 using S3 it'll hopefully support plain HTTP as well.

I thought that MP3tunes was going to be great but the interface really
sucks. I was hoping it would be a little like dropbox, or well
integrated into iTunes so when you start your PC up the program syncs
your selected songs in the background but the program is awful. 

It also appears that MP3tunes may be on it's way out of existence.

Any thoughts or opinions from the community?


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Re: [slim] 2 Simultaneous SB streams

2011-03-29 Thread aubuti

spooley;621858 Wrote: 
 Can you confirm that you can use the analog and digital outputs from one
 SB at the same time (for the same stream).
Yes. All the outputs are live.


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