Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!
pippin wrote: Yes, I can reproduce it. It's related to the swipe problem. Will be fixed in the next update. Great! :) pippin wrote: Is it always the second track? Do you maybe have the shuffle mode on? This is not a CustomBrowse menu or anything right (not that I think it would make a difference). iPeng here really just sends a play album command, I don't see how the iOS version or the jailbreak could have any influence on that. Also, iPeng really doesn't influence what track the server plays. And there is no change there. Be that as it may, I have one phone with 1.6.1 that does not show this behavior and one with 2.0 that does do it. I have found the way to reproduce it however: if the players that I want to start playing are switched off and I start them by selecting an album (by clicking the cover art), the entire playlist will be loaded and the 2nd track will start playing. I've tried this 8 times between both phones. during those tries 1.6.1 never showed this behavior and 2.0 did every time. Shuffle play is not turned on. I know it may sound strange to you, but if you want I can make you a video that shows the error occurring. Just let me know what settings and information you exactly want to see in the video. pippin wrote: But that will indeed consume power, albeit in the background. How long is your current playlist? Do you see spontaneous main-menu reloads? It depends, sometimes over 1500 tracks, sometimes just a single album. The longer playlists are loaded instantly, no incremental updates of the playlist because the server can't manage or anything. No spontaneous menu reloading. hvb83's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96749 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Please disconnect squeezeplay config from mysqueezebox.com
I have no experience other than Windows OS. Squeezeplay for Windows does work without mysqueezebox.com. I don't have a mysqueezebox account and I'm able to set it up anyway. As mentioned, there is a key combination to back out of the initialization process. It works like it does on the SB players. Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96839 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!
hvb83 wrote: I have found the way to reproduce it however: if the players that I want to start playing are switched off and I start them by selecting an album (by clicking the cover art), the entire playlist will be loaded and the 2nd track will start playing. OK, I will give this a try, this is interesting, I do see a way how that could be although I still don't know where the change between 1.6.1 and 2 should be. Are all settings under iPeng Settings the same? It depends, sometimes over 1500 tracks, sometimes just a single album. The longer playlists are loaded instantly, no incremental updates of the playlist because the server can't manage or anything. Define instantaneous. For me a 1,500 track playlist would always take at least a minute to fully load, probably longer on slower servers. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96749 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
bigbossman wrote: Actually, if you have iTunes open (PC or Mac) and home sharing on you should be able to stream your entire library via Airplay using your iPod Touch (go to 'more' in your iPods menu and select 'shared' - any libraries that are home share enabled will show up here). Just don't expect sound quality to match that of the SB Touch, or any SB IMHO. If you're playing the music from your home library on the iPod Touch itself, via Home Sharing, that's not using Airplay. If you're sending the audio from the iPod Touch to a receiving device like an Airport Express, Apple TV, or third-party AirPlay receiver, that's using Airplay. The audio you're sending could be from files stored on the iPod itself or from files stored on the computer and accessed using Home Sharing. But in the latter case you could also play the files in iTunes on the computer itself, under the control of Apple Remote on the iPod, and send the audio from iTunes to your receiver via AirPlay. (At least you can for a Mac, I still don't know if this is available on PC's.) If you're playing music on the iPod through a dock that takes the digital audio from the iPod then the sound quality should be however good the DAC etc in the dock is, subject to the 'limitation' of 16 bit / 44.1 kHz. Similarly the quality from an AirPlay receiver should be whatever its DAC and output circuitry provides, given a lossless source file. nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
banned for life wrote: The question was about using my music remotely. Is the Apple TV hardware locked to your location (or your Apple Account?) It's a question of whether the device allows playback from any location. As far as I know the Apple TV can play back your music collection anywhere you like (assuming power, Internet and a display) but this is using iTunes Match, not Airplay. So (a) you'd need to subscribe to iTunes Match, and (b) playback would be at 256 kbps AAC (I think), no matter what format or quality your source files back at home were. And because it's not Airplay I think you would need a display in order to operate the Apple TV. nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!
pippin wrote: OK, I will give this a try, this is interesting, I do see a way how that could be although I still don't know where the change between 1.6.1 and 2 should be. Are all settings under iPeng Settings the same? I'm quite sure they are, but will check tonight when I get home. pippin wrote: EDIT: I still can't reproduce this. This is pretty weird. Are these synced players? Have you set them to power on together (sync power setting in the server's web interface)? Do you control the same player in both cases? They are synced players, a group consisting of a Touch and two Radio's. They don't power on together. Up to now I've only tested it when powering on the Touch, but I'll test it tonight with the Radio to see if it happens on that one too. pippin wrote: Is one of them a SqueezeSlave? It used to be, but the SqueezeSlave (the iPhone player integrated in iPeng), is now independent and was not used in the test I did this morning. During the test it was connected to the server, but not playing or even powered on (on the server, the iPhone and iPeng were of course running..). pippin wrote: Is the Don't Group Controls setting the same? Yes they are, all players are controlled individually when it comes to power and volume. pippin wrote: Define instantaneous. For me a 1,500 track playlist would always take at least a minute to fully load, probably longer on slower servers. I'll get my stopwatch out tonight. ;) Maybe not within seconds, but certainly not a minute. Probably closer to ten seconds or something. Much faster than I can handle. :D hvb83's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96749 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] O2 Joggler v Squeezebox Touch for Audio Quality
Apesbrain wrote: Some very interesting stuff over in this Joggler Forum thread starting about 'here' (http://www.jogglerwiki.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2t=740start=40#p13394). Yes, I checked that thread out. All a bit too audiophile for me. After years of abuse my ears aren't what they were, so I think going the way of spdif out to hardcore external DACs is probably overkill. I have seen elsewhere that the quality of phono out on the Joggler ain't great. I'm certainly up for spending an extra £30 on an external USB sound card to improve matters, but not up for learning how to code and then spending £150+ on a dac for a device whose main selling point to me was price. I'm happy with the sound from my Touch (with phono out). If I can bring the joggler up to that standard by adding an external USB sound card, then great, I will use it in the living room to take advantage of the airplay feature. Yes I know I could a/b them when I get it, but it would be useful to also have a technical opinion so as to help remove any nagging doubts. Listening tests are a nightmare. Often something sounds acceptable on a test listen only for irritations to creep in on prolonged listening DannyKudos's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4940 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] O2 Joggler v Squeezebox Touch for Audio Quality
I've compared an SB3 (Classic) with a Joggler, and I can safely say, even without a double-blind-ab-test, that the analogue output of the SB3 is far superior to the Joggler. Like you I tried swapping out my main SB with the Joggler as it's aesthetically nicer and easier to control, but the sound quality made me immediately switch it back. Another problem I found was that the volume level coming out of the Joggler was too low, which meant I had to up the preamp db level, which caused a nasty pop when it turned on. A USB audio dongle is the way to go I think if you want to use the Joggler, as long as you don't mind it sticking out the side, or you get a 90-degree cable and stick it behind. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!
hvb83 wrote: It used to be, but the SqueezeSlave (the iPhone player integrated in iPeng), is now independent and was not used in the test I did this morning. During the test it was connected to the server, but not playing or even powered on (on the server, the iPhone and iPeng were of course running..). iPeng is not SqueezeSlave, also not SqueezePlay, it's a completely independent implementation of the player protocol. Sorry, I didn't mean just a software player but SqueezeSlave in particular since I recently had a discussion with a user who had an issue where SqueezeSlave skipped first tracks (not only when using iPeng), but I think that was a specific issue. However, if one player skips, it drags the others with it in a sync group. Yes they are, all players are controlled individually when it comes to power and volume. So you have that setting in iPeng set to on? I'll get my stopwatch out tonight. ;) Maybe not within seconds, but certainly not a minute. Probably closer to ten seconds or something. Much faster than I can handle. :D Wow. Sounds like I need a faster server. Although... trying this here I also found it to be much faster than I remembered it to be so LMS probably got much faster here than earlier server incarnations. With SBS 7.5 this could have easily taken 5 minutes for me and I even use the default 500 tracks limit. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96749 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
nekomatic wrote: If you're playing the music from your home library on the iPod Touch itself, via Home Sharing, that's not using Airplay. If you're sending the audio from the iPod Touch to a receiving device like an Airport Express, Apple TV, or third-party AirPlay receiver, that's using Airplay. The audio you're sending could be from files stored on the iPod itself or from files stored on the computer and accessed using Home Sharing. But in the latter case you could also play the files in iTunes on the computer itself, under the control of Apple Remote on the iPod, and send the audio from iTunes to your receiver via AirPlay. (At least you can for a Mac, I still don't know if this is available on PC's.) If you're playing music on the iPod through a dock that takes the digital audio from the iPod then the sound quality should be however good the DAC etc in the dock is, subject to the 'limitation' of 16 bit / 44.1 kHz. Similarly the quality from an AirPlay receiver should be whatever its DAC and output circuitry provides, given a lossless source file. Sorry, let me qualify - I used my iPod as a remote while I had the N50. Using the wireless dongle on the Pioneer I was to access my home shared libraries and stream content to it using Airplay. Obviously using the iPod as a sort of wireless hotspot. The N50 came up as an Airplay device along with my 2 Apple TV's. Worked fine it did too :-) bigbossman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29947 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] O2 Joggler v Squeezebox Touch for Audio Quality
Thanks Simbo. Good to hear from someone with first hand experience. Did you ever try it with an external sound card ? DannyKudos's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4940 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] O2 Joggler v Squeezebox Touch for Audio Quality
I have 3 Jogglers and 1 Squeezebox radio running in my system, and I previously owned a SB3 so feel I can cpomment on this. The Joggler has a 3.5mm output. The audio chip on-board has several options including digital and line out however only the headphones output is used and connected to the the jack on the back. This means the output is not up to the standards of a real squeezebox (if you have a touch I believe they have headphone jacks, imagine using them instead of the RCA outs) So out of the box its not really suitable as a high quality audio device. The output can be tweaked by the way so the low volume issue can be sorted but its still not the best. I do use the standard output with the Joggler in my bedroom connected to a cheap 2.1 speaker set I got included with a Dell PC a while ago, its perfectly acceptable for that purpose, once the gain has been adjusted to combat the low audio levels mentioned above One of my other Jogglers has been modified by myself to have an optical port, this was actually quite an easy mod to do, its 3 wires soldered to points on the motherboard and this feeds the on-board DAC in my Arcam AVR amplifier. I have tried this Joggler feeding the DAC in a mates entirely Linn based system (I don't recall the model numbers of his kit, I was too distracted by the pile of expensive Linn kit, including a rather lovely TT he owns) TBH the Joggler feeding FLAC (ripped from CD so 16/44.4) was indistinguishable from CDs played through the same DAC. I'm not pretending we did a proper ABX blind test but to both of our ears we were perfectly happy with the digital output from my Joggler. My mate has since bought one which I've modded with the optical output for him and he's a happy bunny My third Joggler uses a Behringer USB soundcard (UAC something or other from memory, possible 302?) feeding a modest stereo setup (Cambridge Audio A5 Amp, Mordaunt Short MS906 speakers) I have directly compared the Joggler with Behringer to my Cambridge CD player, I couldn't compare the SB3 directly as I sold it a while ago but this is the system I used to have the SB3 connected to. I have to be honest I don't think I could tell them apart. The sound quality is certainly good enough for my ears and modest setup. The Joggler in some ways is what the Touch should have been. A lovely 7 screen. Its powerful enough to run a full LMS, either using network shares or a USB device for your tunes. My Joggler with the SP-DIF mod runs the latest LMS, including a fair few plugins, including PLAYWMA and PLAYREAL with Mplayer to transcode these screens. Even Triodes spotify plug in works, but not the official one. Regarding the USB port on the side, personally I found this location to be a pain, however if you're not using the WiFi then you can actually remove the internal wifi card which frees up another USB port, I drilled a hole on the back case and stuck a small usb evtension cable in it so I have a captive lead on the back. you can then use a Hub to connect multiple devices to the USB. So for me (I'm from Yorkshire so a bit tight) I have 3 zones and a perfectly capable LMS machine for less money (including the previously mentioned Behringer soundcard) for less money than I spent on the SBR. I love my Jogglers but they do require a little more effort than just plugging in a genuine squeezebox to shine jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!
pippin wrote: iPeng is not SqueezeSlave, also not SqueezePlay, it's a completely independent implementation of the player protocol. Sorry, I didn't mean just a software player but SqueezeSlave in particular since I recently had a discussion with a user who had an issue where SqueezeSlave skipped first tracks (not only when using iPeng), but I think that was a specific issue. However, if one player skips, it drags the others with it in a sync group. Ah ok, didn't know that. But no, only real Squeezebox players and your iPeng-player implementation. pippin wrote: So you have that setting in iPeng set to on? Yes, this setting is on. For completeness, I have all settings to on on the 2.0 version, except for prevent sleep, don't skip, connect to server, Use English wikipedia and Party mode. No additional servers are added. hvb83's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96749 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] O2 Joggler v Squeezebox Touch for Audio Quality
DannyKudos wrote: Thanks Simbo. Good to hear from someone with first hand experience. Did you ever try it with an external sound card ? Unfortunately not... I've now relegated it to my study and pass it through some basic speakers :-( EDIT: jimbobvfr400's post above shows some excellent experiences. simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!
pippin wrote: Do you have a good template or something or did you write one from scratch? I'm am using the same, that did already work great at times when such reports were sent directly to Apple. In addition the user is asked, if he wants to send a report directly after a crash. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96749 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] O2 Joggler v Squeezebox Touch for Audio Quality
jimbobvfr400, great reply !. Thanks ! I think I'll invest in that Behringer USB soundcard. Actually, thinking about it, I have a Creative X-Fi USB card somewhere which might also do the trick. I certainly can't see myself learning to solder. My stereo system is also pretty modest (Ancient Marantz receiver, Keff speakers). Joggler has just arrived. I'll let you know how I get on. Again, thanks for the feedback !!. DannyKudos's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4940 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.6 and MusicIP not working
No clue (don't use SugarCube), but you might want to start a separate thread with this post, and include a link to MeSue's post in this thread. It's been long enough that I had to re-read the entire thread (often thinking -I- wrote that?). Not everybody will re-wade through at thread so your audience of potential-answerers is quite reduced. bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89462 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] O2 Joggler v Squeezebox Touch for Audio Quality
Speaking as someone who uses that Behringer 302 USB/DAC (squeezeslave output from my PC), I can tell you that the DAC in that unit is OK but not wonderful. From the comments above, it's an improvement on the Joggler. If you're setting up somewhere where you already have a receiver, get a toslink cable and a/b/a between audio output from the Behringer (that DAC) and toslink to your receiver (receiver's DAC). My mid-range Yamaha gear (RXV series) was clearly better (mid-range Burr-Brown DACs, but one per channel) I took a Behringer 302 apart at one point (long ago) and looked up the chips in use. As I remember there's a single chip that's a TI combination DAC and digital audio converter. Given the A/B/A above, this calls the digital audio converter somewhat into question, but I haven't gotten around to trying a higher end converter. I'm using a PC and ASIO so that higher-end would be a Musiland. If I had a portable device and wanted analog audio output as good as a SB3, I'd think about an Audioquest Dragonfly, but that's in the $200+ range (the SB3 DAC is quite good, and, considering the price of the dragonfly, not overpriced) bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Poll: Would you pay for a Squeezebox Server in the cloud?
I never understood why Logitech didn't use the opportunity for making aftersales money by offering subscription based services extending the functionality of mysqueezebox.com thus eliminating the need to run a local squeezebox server. So something like mysb.com + mp3tunes / Amazon Cloud Player. Would you be interested, and if, how much would you be willing to pay for a service offering the following key features: + mysqueezebox.com (internet radio, integration with streaming services like Spotify, Rhapsody,...) + upload/match your own music library into the cloud (unlimited, like Amazon Cloud Player but lossless quality) + stream via web browser + stream to mobile devices via dedicated iOS/Android apps (lossy, MP3/OGG) mcm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1925 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!
bluegaspode wrote: I'm am using the same, that did already work great at times when such reports were sent directly to Apple. aka none :) Same as myself. Apple asks users for permission, though. In addition the user is asked, if he wants to send a report directly after a crash. Ah, didn't know that. That helps a lot, of course. I thought it sends reports in the background without notifying the user like the TestFlight API and some of these usage monitor libraries and that would have been a no-go without a dedicated privacy policy. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96749 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Poll: Would you pay for a Squeezebox Server in the cloud?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a service as described? - Nothing. Not Interested. - up to 5 EUR/$ - up to 15 EUR/$ - up to 25 EUR/$ I think the market for a multiple 100$ network audio player is somewhat limited. To me it seems SlimDevices/Logitech got a big part of that market but then sales reached there natural limit and stagnated. Most of the squeezebox devices are long living so at some point there's not too much incentive to buy new ones. So for Logitech it's one-time money against the continued expenditures of keeping the infrastructure (mysb.com) and software alive. I never understood why Logitech didn't start their own kind of cloud thing. They integrate mysb.com with all kind of subscription based third party services instead of offering their own ones. I gave a lot of money to mp3tunes.com for storing my own music in the cloud - but it never really worked. I still give money to Rhapsody for streaming additional music. I'm buying my music in third party online stores. New services like Itunes Match and Amazons Cloud Player kind of merge some of these markets. Even Ubuntu has its own music store and associated cloud storing services. If Logitech came up with services like that, I would happily pay them instead. Since logitech never offered some working cloud service for accessing internet radio + my own music i eventually set up a virtual server in a data center for hosting my own instance of sqeezebox server + 300 GB of online storage for my own music. That costs me 30 EUR/month the data center infrastructure + 10 EUR/month to Rhapsody for music streaming + a lot of hassle for setup und running the system. I would happily give that money (or rather some EUR less) to logitech for offering me the same service via mysb.com. But in the long run it doesn't make too much sense to multiply space requirements by storing the same music over and over again. Amazon does the right thing with it's cloud player. Just upload users music if it isn't in a common pool. At the same time I think amazons cloud player is ridiculously cheap (25 EUR/*year* for storing your unlimited size personal music collection). If logitech (or whoever) offered a similar service for squeezebox owners, but at higher quality (lossless), I would be willing to pay up to 25 EUR per *month* for that (whereas I think 10 to 15 EUR / month would be more reasonable for a mass market). mcm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1925 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Support of Dolby 5.1 Music on Squeezeboxes
I have an increasing number of Dolby 5.1 Music Files in my library on the NAS, most have AC3 and some have FLAC format. It would be great if I could listen to this music, exactly as easily as to my stereo music using Squeezebox and iPeng. Unfortunately, I do not see anywhere that the SlimServer scans the music library for AC3 files. It should just need to be displayed side-by-side in the list with MP3 or AAC. There are even no tags to scan, just the files to be listed. On the Squeezebox itself, we would need just Passthrough to the SPDIF interface and no decoding. It is even more surprising to see that the Sqeezeboxes don't support it, considering that most hardware media players scan for AC3 music files and implement the Passthrough. The Twonky Media server does it etc. So I do not understand why this was ignored by the Squeezebox developpers and community. If somebody is interested in Dolby 5.1 music in the different formats, there are fantastic examples to download from here : http://www.diatonis.com/surround_sound_music.html It would be so easy to implement. Was this ever discussed, and are there any chances to get it ? Best Regards, Bernd bernaci's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14958 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96851 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
As suggested in the thread linked below I'm starting this new thread to try and get to the source of the subject error message. I've been getting the Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Common::__ANON__ (75) Failed fetching filters from MusicIP error message in my log for the longest time and have not been able to figure out what's causing it. I set Filters to (NONE) in the MusicIP plugin settings, but I still get the Failed fetching message. I also could not find a setting in SugarCube for MusicIP filters and Trackstat is not enabled in SugarCube. Is there a setting in another plugin I should check or a file or something missing somewhere? I'm running the latest 7.8 LMS release with MusicIP 1.9 beta 6 on Windows 7. Btw, this issue is discussed towards the end of this old thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?89462-7-6-and-MusicIP-not-working but no resolution was posted. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Please disconnect squeezeplay config from mysqueezebox.com
Would you remember what that key combination is? Millwood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3600 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96839 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] O2 Joggler v Squeezebox Touch for Audio Quality
When say Marantz Receiver I mean in the old analogue sense; so an amp combined with an analogue radio. Not a Toslink or SPDIF in sight ! As I say, my ears are sub audiophile, as are my pockets !. If I can get the sound quality of the Joggler to something equivalent of a Touch (playing via phonos) I would be happy, but Im not up for spending any more than £50 to achieve this. Thanks again folks. DannyKudos's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4940 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96844 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Support of Dolby 5.1 Music on Squeezeboxes
You can ! encapsulate the ac3 stream in a WAV or FLAC file keep volume at 100% and use only the spdiff or toslink ( analog out will be rubbish ) this works fine . with flac, tagging would work fine . There are tons of old treads on the subject . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96851 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
Hi, I'd just like to confirm whether or not squeezeslave can be registered with mysqueezebox.com. I think that the answer is no, but perhaps someone has been able to make it work? I have tried changing the mac address a few different times, but that doesn't seem to make a difference. The reason I ask is that I would like to control my squeezeslave instance through squeezeplay and play apps like pandora. I can currently play pandora on squeezeslave by controlling it through the LMS web gui; however, when I use squeezeplay and select MyApps to get to Pandora, I receive an error message that this device has already been registered with another account. My understanding is that this error message is a result of the fact that the squeezeslave instance is not registered with mysqueezebox.com, and I can confirm that this is true. At least squeezeslave does not show up when I list My Players on the mysqueezebox.com website. I have tried to register the squeezeslave instance using squeezeplay through Test-SN Registration which seems to work. I receive a success confirmation message at least. However, the player still will not show up on the mysqueezebox.com website. If its not possible to register the squeezeslave instance, does anyone have a suggestion for a work around? Perhaps a way to just add a Pandora menu item to the main menu of Squeezeplay. As I have said, I can play pandora on squeezeslave through LMS, and it does show up on the Now Playing screen of Squeezeplay. I just dont have a way to start it from squeezeplay or change the channels. Thank in advance, J jshoor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40739 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
Can you open http://localhost:10002/api/filters in a browser? How long does it take (roughly)? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Poll: Would you pay for a Squeezebox Server in the cloud?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a service as described? - Nothing. Not Interested. - up to 5 EUR/$ - up to 15 EUR/$ - up to 25 EUR/$ Your poll is it monthly or yearly ? matching content already online ? That can't work it is not only important to get the rigth song but also the rigth version and master and how to know that it is an accurate rip ? I would like to see the ripping log file with compared accurate rip matches . The only solution for such a service is to rip everything them selfs to a very good standard and keep every known release of the same song . But most importantly how to handle metadata ? Many users can have a very personalised tagging scheme with custom tags ? There is virtually no consensus regarding what is proper metadata , so if the server saves space by offering a similar file it must keep and serve the clients own metadata to that ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
garym wrote: Possible but Doubtful on several dimensions. Keep your squeezebox touch! I do plan on keeping the touch for sure! I am curious, I like the touch since I use the digital out into my reciever and take advantage of the recievers internal dacs. Works perfect for me. Is that the same with Airplay, are we sending a digital stream to the receiver and using the receiver's internal dacs? If that is the case, and we are using lossless, the quality should be pretty close between the two? What about Apple TV or airport express, do they have digital out? What am I missing? Thanks Bob bobm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19401 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
bobm wrote: I do plan on keeping the touch for sure! I am curious, I like the touch since I use the digital out into my reciever and take advantage of the recievers internal dacs. Works perfect for me. Is that the same with Airplay, are we sending a digital stream to the receiver and using the receiver's internal dacs? If that is the case, and we are using lossless, the quality should be pretty close between the two? What about Apple TV or airport express, do they have digital out? What am I missing? Thanks Bob I'm no expert on airplay. just recalling things I've read, there may be resampling to 16/48 (from 16/44.1), not using 24/x, thus not as good at digital volume control, no 24/96, etc. etc. There are other threads on this and I'm sure someone that knows can clarify/correct me. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
Yes there seems to be no sure way of knowing that you really get bitpeefectness with apple , not that most people would care but us who do care seems to own squeezeboxes already :) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
iTunes Match supports ALAC. Airplay is LAN-only (for all intents and purposes) All Apple devices (Macs/iDevice/Apple TV/AE) all have digital outs (in some form). Streaming e.g. ALAC with Airplay and using digital outs *should* be bitperfect. bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
mherger wrote: Can you open http://localhost:10002/api/filters in a browser? How long does it take (roughly)? -- Michael Hi Michael, it takes ~5 seconds. Is there a place in the plugin where I can alter the wait interval? Thanks... tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
Hi Michael, it takes ~5 seconds. Is there a place in the plugin where I can alter the wait interval? Heh... the ~ might be crucial here: the timeout is hard-coded to 5s. If it took longer, you'd see that message... -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Poll: Would you pay for a Squeezebox Server in the cloud?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a service as described? - Nothing. Not Interested. - up to 5 EUR/$ - up to 15 EUR/$ - up to 25 EUR/$ Mnyb wrote: Your poll is it monthly or yearly ? Figures are per month. Mnyb wrote: matching content already online ? That can't work it is not only important to get the rigth song but also the rigth version and master and how to know that it is an accurate rip ? I would like to see the ripping log file with compared accurate rip matches Apple (Itunes Match) and Amazon (Cloud Player) do that already. I know there are still some minor flaws with their implementations, but all in all mapping works quite well already (mapping algorithm is probably based on Gracenotes MusicID). mcm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1925 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Poll: Would you pay for a Squeezebox Server in the cloud?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a service as described? - Nothing. Not Interested. - up to 5 EUR/$ - up to 15 EUR/$ - up to 25 EUR/$ mcm wrote: Figures are per month. Apple (Itunes Match) and Amazon (Cloud Player) do that already. I know there are still some minor flaws with their implementations, but all in all mapping works quite well already (mapping algorithm is probably based on Gracenotes MusicID). they may be mapping the right song (although that is even doubtful in many cases (which of the many mastering versions of DSOTHM is used?)). But I highly doubt they are matching ACCURATERIP info. This would be very different from a gracenotes MUSICID. p.s. I don't want a cloud for my music. But I do want something like mysqueezebox.com that manages ability to connect to music services, etc. For this I'd pay something. Maybe $5 a month. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
As far as Apple TV vs. SB goes, here are some personal specifics, divided into stuff one is good at and the other one not, and vice versa. Pro AE: - Fits perfectly into an Apple ecosystem including their cloud-services. - Streaming all kinds of sounds, videos and pictures from all kinds of Apple devices, is a breeze. This is important since most video- and music-services have apps or clients for said devices. This in addition to all other more random youtube, etc. content, one can pull of the big net. - Best-effort-kind-of-good SQ by using digital outputs into DACs etc (though opinions vary as to whether its bit perfect). This means that I think the quality is pretty good - wether or not its actually The Best Possible, is not that important - nor is it optimised with this in mind. - The way I use and think of it is, as as a means of getting a better viewing/listening experience than on the smaller device. Pro SB: - Bitperfect - High-res - WAN-streaming (without cloud-subscritions) - I can 100% manage my own library the old fashion way - no cloud stuff etc. - When up and running - its independent of computers/iDevices/etc. Its just good old high-fi with a thingy that happens to source over the network. So I use both as I believe they (in the present state) serve the same, but different purposes :) bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
mherger wrote: Hi Michael, it takes ~5 seconds. Is there a place in the plugin where I can alter the wait interval? Heh... the ~ might be crucial here: the timeout is hard-coded to 5s. If it took longer, you'd see that message... -- Michael He! He!, to me (roughly) = ~ (After subsequent checks using a StopWatch it takes almost 2 seconds (1.72-1.82 sec to be exact... give or take a few millisecond of finger delay from the right hand pressing enter to left hand pressing the Start/Stop button on the StopWatch). Btw, this message is generated during server startup only... not while generating dynamic mixes with MusicIP or when generating mixes using the Web UI. tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Poll: Would you pay for a Squeezebox Server in the cloud?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a service as described? - Nothing. Not Interested. - up to 5 EUR/$ - up to 15 EUR/$ - up to 25 EUR/$ garym wrote: they may be mapping the right song (although that is even doubtful in many cases (which of the many mastering versions of DSOTHM is used?)). But I highly doubt they are matching ACCURATERIP info. This would be very different from a gracenotes MUSICID. You are right. It's just about identifying the right track. Amazon doesn't care if your version is only a 64kbps MP3. When they identify your track and they have it in their DB, you get their version (~250kbps VBR MP3). Your actual file is only uploaded if they don't have it in their collection. The problem with amazon is that, while it will try to match all kind of files (also ogg and flac) it will only upload MP3 and AAC (max. 100MB/file). No lossless. mcm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1925 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Control your SqueezeBox or Transporter with Foobar2000
Hi. Trying to get this script to work, but the how-to page the script author put together (http://www.at-sea.com/FooSQ.html) seems to have vanished, so I'm working blind and so far, no luck. I've installed AMIP, and the script launches Foobar, but I'm not sure what to do next. If anyone has a copy of the installation instructions, I'd be grateful. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79575 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Poll: Would you pay for a Squeezebox Server in the cloud?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a service as described? - Nothing. Not Interested. - up to 5 EUR/$ - up to 15 EUR/$ - up to 25 EUR/$ mcm wrote: You are right. It's just about identifying the right track. Amazon doesn't care if your version is only a 64kbps MP3. When they identify your track and they have it in their DB, you get their version (~250kbps VBR MP3). Your actual file is only uploaded if they don't have it in their collection. The problem with amazon is that, while it will try to match all kind of files (also ogg and flac) it will only upload MP3 and AAC (max. 100MB/file). No lossless. Bugger :-/ maybe in the future . It would be smart enough to stream at bandwidth the device could cope with 3g on the road is not the same as 1000mb fiber in your home . A service that would stream the exact version at home or lossy one on the road would be it Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
tamanaco wrote: He! He!, to me (roughly) = ~ (After subsequent checks using a StopWatch it takes almost 2 seconds (1.72-1.82 sec to be exact... give or take a few millisecond of finger delay from the right hand pressing enter to left hand pressing the Start/Stop button on the StopWatch). Btw, this message is generated during server startup only... not while generating dynamic mixes with MusicIP or when generating mixes using the Web UI. Sure that the MIP server always starts up before SS/SC/SBS/LMS basic q but you said during startup... An experiment while the whole server is running and MIP server too, restart LMS do you get the error then ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
An experiment while the whole server is running and MIP server too, restart LMS do you get the error then ? Yeah, I imagine that those new numbers (2s) upon repeated requests are faster due to some caching involved. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
garym wrote: I'm no expert on airplay. just recalling things I've read, there may be resampling to 16/48 (from 16/44.1), not using 24/x, thus not as good at digital volume control, no 24/96, etc. etc. There are other threads on this and I'm sure someone that knows can clarify/correct me. Airplay is 16/44.1 always, so source is converted to that. If receiver is Apple TV, it only outputs 16/48 for audio. So it resamples. If receiver is Airport Express, it outputs 16/44.1, same as Airplay signal, subject to WiFi capability / quality. If source is ALAC 16/44.1 everything's bit perfect, if using max volume setting. Dave DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Failed fetching filters from MusicIP
Mnyb wrote: An experiment while the whole server is running and MIP server too, restart LMS do you get the error then ? Yes, I should have been more specific. It happens during server startup only... and on computer reboot. Below is the full content of the log file after the server starts. I'm also trying to get rid of the SuperDateTime warning message and posted about it in the appropriate 3rd party software thread. I recently reinstalled my server from scratch and I'm trying to get rid of any annoying messages in the log. The MusicIP fetching, SuperDateTime deprecated and NPRRadio Metadata messages were present in the previous install. Logging for all these is set to error under advanced settings. [12-10-24 15:51:25.7034] main::init (354) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.8.0, 1350572233, Fri Oct 19 03:14:51 PDT 2012) perl 5.014001 [12-10-24 15:52:02.8288] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1304) Warning: [15:52:02.8281] Using a hash as a reference is deprecated at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\SuperDateTime\lib/Plugins/SuperDateTime/Plugin.pm line 2183. [12-10-24 15:52:08.4251] Plugins::NPRRadio::Metadata::init (21) Register NPR meta provider, default icon= [12-10-24 15:52:55.4549] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Common::__ANON__ (75) Failed fetching filters from MusicIP tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Windows Media Player !! problem
I have recently installed Squeezebox Duet and it's working well but I have a problem with WMP. When it automatically scanned my music files it put them all in to albums etc, which is fine. However, it has also sorted by genre and THEY'RE ALL WRONG. Actually, they're not ALL wrong but many are. for instance, some Jazz is listed as Fusion. Many Big Band listed as Easy Listening etc. Is there a way to change this? I suppose I copuld be accused of nit-picking but it would be nice to get it right. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards Bowler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57663 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96860 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!
The iPeng 2.0.1 update is now in the App Store. It fixes a number of smaller issues with 2.0 and brings some smaller improvements: Improvements: * new: trash icon back on the current playlist screen * new: select different sleep intervals for the sleep shortcut when holding the pause-button. Fixes: * fixed: moving volume or progress sliders no longer trigger skip-gestures (that's the big one) * fixed: you can now send help mails under iOS 6 again. * fixed: native ALAC playback using the playback In-App-Purchase * fixed: Twitter support (that was not related to iPeng 2.0 but caused by a discontinued endpoint on Twitters side and also affects all other iPeng versions) pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96749 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Media Player !! problem
You should also make sure that the WMP setting to retrieve info from the internet is shut off (Organize - Options - Library tab). This could undo anything you do to your tags if allowed. w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96860 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Very poor customer service from Logitech
I have a problem with my Duet Receiver and so I logged a case with Logitech back in August (I'm in Australia so I called the local freecall number). The operator told me that they don't deal directly with Squeezebox issues so my case would need to be referred to another section. Since then despite several follow up calls and assurances from the operator every time that they would get back to me, I have heard nothing from them. Has anyone else had this problem and if so what have you done about it? 47tuc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Very poor customer service from Logitech
47tuc wrote: I have a problem with my Duet Receiver and so I logged a case with Logitech back in August (I'm in Australia so I called the local freecall number). The operator told me that they don't deal directly with Squeezebox issues so my case would need to be referred to another section. Since then despite several follow up calls and assurances from the operator every time that they would get back to me, I have heard nothing from them. Has anyone else had this problem and if so what have you done about it? Unless you have already done it I would suggest that you post this to the support forum at http://forums.logitech.com and ask for guidance what to do. Hopefully one of the people working for Logitech which knows Squeezebox will be able to see it there. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Very poor customer service from Logitech
I'll do that. Thanks for the reply. 47tuc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
