Re: [slim] Album Catalogue
amey01 wrote: Hi all, I was using ACC (Album Catalog Creator) which was excellent, but of course not updated for SQLLite. So is there any alternative which anyone is using for SQLLite based servers. All I need is a basic album list. You can also change back sqlite to mysql if aac can handle a newer Version of LMS. PS: All I need is a basic album list. is a little bit of less info - a basic albumlist can mean much or less anything. DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98269 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Catalogue
If you just need a comma separated text lite you might be able to use the Database Query plugin, it contains a report that lists albums together with release year and artist and you can export it to a csv file which can be imported in Excel or similar tool for nice formatting. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98269 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] How to restart the server - sorry , I simply have forgot how to do that
Hi Sorry for this question, but I just updated to LMS 7.8, and needed to change some settings, and it ask for a restart of the server - but I simply can't recall how I restart the server from the web pages? Therefore, I have been rebooting the computer everytime - but there must be a smarted way. sbp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to restart the server - sorry , I simply have forgot how to do that
sbp wrote: Hi Sorry for this question, but I just updated to LMS 7.8, and needed to change some settings, and it ask for a restart of the server - but I simply can't recall how I restart the server from the web pages? /etc/init.d/logitechmediaserver restart Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Catalogue
erland wrote: If you just need a comma separated text lite you might be able to use the Database Query plugin, it contains a report that lists albums together with release year and artist and you can export it to a csv file which can be imported in Excel or similar tool for nice formatting. That's all I need - will give this a try. Thanks! amey01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11274 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98269 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] No sound in LMS web interface
Suddenly the sound is gone in the web interface, the radio and Squeezeplayboth have sound. this is a line from the log: : [13-03-10 11:13:51.5395] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (147) Error: Select task failed calling Slim::Web::HTTP::sendStreamingResponse: illegal file descriptor or filehandle (either no attached file descriptor or illegal value): at /C:\PROGRA~2\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~3.EXESlim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 150. I rebooted ,but no change. bobb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57596 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98271 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do I add a song that is currently playing to a playlist.
garym wrote: be sure to tick the show 3rd party plugins on that page OK, thanks. I did get the Playlist Manager (v4.0) It is checked off in the plugins list. There is no change in playlist behavior as compared to the default SC type. I see no context menu as described by the author; http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk/Music/slim/PlaylistManPlugin.htm There must be a simple way to take a song from the Now Playing section and add it to an existing playlist. Squeezed_Rotel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98264 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do I add a song that is currently playing to a playlist.
Squeezed_Rotel wrote: OK, thanks. I did get the Playlist Manager (v4.0) It is checked off in the plugins list. There is no change in playlist behavior as compared to the default SC type. I see no context menu as described by the author; http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk/Music/slim/PlaylistManPlugin.htm There must be a simple way to take a song from the Now Playing section and add it to an existing playlist. You only get the context menu on the players and iPeng not in the web-UI . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98264 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do I add a song that is currently playing to a playlist.
Mnyb wrote: You only get the context menu on the players and iPeng not in the web-UI . Now when my wife hears something from the random song list, I'll be able to add it to her playlist :) Thank you very much. Squeezed_Rotel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98264 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No sound in LMS web interface
The web interface can't play audio. You must be using a software player. SqueezePlay (which you say is working)? SoftSqueeze? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98271 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to restart the server - sorry , I simply have forgot how to do that
Thank you. I thought that it was possible from within the server web-pages, but your solution is working fine. Somehow I seem to remember that it should be possible from the server pages, but as I haven't found the button to press here - I'm having doubt about my memory sbp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to restart the server - sorry , I simply have forgot how to do that
You may be thinking of PC/Mac versions of LMS where there are two places to stop and restart LMS. On a non-PC/Mac version of LMS I have no idea. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to restart the server - sorry , I simply have forgot how to do that
Thanks, what a relief, off course that is the explanation, I have previously been using lms on a whs (windows home server) computer. So my memory is almost ok :-) sbp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Usage of online services in your family ?
We use Last.fm as our premium service, with Slacker and Pandora as free services. One account for each for the whole family. The ability to keep track of individual playlists or favorites for each family member: Not a problem in our house. My wife and I have fairly similar tastes, and we have favorites for each of us. We don't use playlists. The only problem is when our kids come over and want to listen to boy bands or metal. We just have them use Pandora and turn off Last.fm scrobbling while they're here! My dream system and online streaming services: It would be nice to accommodate multiple instances of a service, but not really necessary for us. kc5f's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19652 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98198 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to restart the server - sorry , I simply have forgot how to do that
sbp wrote: Somehow I seem to remember that it should be possible from the server pages, but as I haven't found the button to press here - I'm having doubt about my memory My memory might be just as bad - seem to remember that when LMS tells you it needs restarting, it also offers you a choice to do so on the same page. But I also seem to remember that not working properly :) Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to restart the server - sorry , I simply have forgot how to do that
You can also use service squeezeboxserver restart . On windows/mac there is a controll panel . If a plugin has updated itself and you see the text on the left Bolton ofmthe home page . Click that and you get to the plugin page in settings and there it is a popup in the web-UI that lets you restart , works for me every time . However it can be broken on some Linux platforms restart never worked on CLarkConnetc 4.2 OS with perl 5.8.8 , but it does with ClearOS and perl 5.10.1 ?? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Usage of local music libraries in your family ?
Just me and my wife, unless the kids come over. Never really had the money to buy lots of CD's, so we only have about 1000 tracks on my computer. It's only on when I'm using it, so LMS is almost never used. We stick with online services and stations almost all of the time. I do use LMS when I'm having people over and want to play specific music, but that's about it. Do you have a need to let each family member browse their library individually? No. ... keep track of playlists for each family member? No - we share the few we use. ... favorites for each family member? Don't have favorites. If we don't like it, it's not in the library! ... ratings and playback statistics for each family member? No. Does each family member have individual players? No - we share the Duet and the Boom. Does each family member have their individual remote control/smartphone? We share them all, although we generally use our own Androids. If you have a remote control which you share between multiple family members, is it a IR-remote, smartphone, tablet or computer? The Duet Controller (rarely used anymore), a Boom IR remote, 2 Androids using Squeeze Commander (95% of the time) and Mysqueezebox.com on the computer. How would your dream system work to work as well as possible for usage of local music on Squeezeboxes and portable devices in your family? For the little bit we use it, it works fine for us right now. kc5f's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19652 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98199 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to restart the server - sorry , I simply have forgot how to do that
The server Power Control plugin should offer you menus to do that, in the web interface and in the players (ip3k at least) epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do you want to create/manage playlists ?
Itunes and use the playlists from there... SimonG156's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94988 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
bpa wrote: Most stations are played direct to player with no involvement of the server except in the case of transcoding or sync. If you were to make all traffic go through the server (which would might mean more powerful servers are needed and more local network bandwidth), then you could do a ring buffer but you might as well provide a PVR type functionality and save the stream to disk rather than hold it in memory. already have this functionality, both on iThings and Androids, up to two hours can be saved, you can pause any livestream, rewind or fastforward it. You can also program recordings and save for later listening. Maybe the memory is to limited on a Radio but on the Touch you could save to a usb-stick and not involve the server? Mikael mikael_b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No sound in LMS web interface
toby10 wrote: The web interface can't play audio. You must be using a software player. SqueezePlay (which you say is working)? SoftSqueeze? I call this the web interface,so one of us is confused i guess 14584 +---+ |Filename: x2scrap7.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14584| +---+ bobb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57596 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98271 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
mikael_b wrote: already have this functionality, both on iThings and Androids, up to two hours can be saved, you can pause any livestream, rewind or fastforward it. You can also program recordings and save for later listening. Maybe the memory is to limited on a Radio but on the Touch you could save to a usb-stick and not involve the server? Sure this faciity has been available on other radio players but we are talking about an Squeezebix context 1. Functionality is similar axcross all types of player SB3, Transporter, Radiop and Touch. You are limiting to Touch (Radio doesn;t have enough memory) when not running mini LMS. 2. FF/REW controls are done by the server ie. LMS or mysb.com not by the player. If done by player then time estimation has to be done by player and then communicated to server - lots of new work. 3. Sync will not be possible if done on a per player basis. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No sound in LMS web interface
So what you have there is two different things - SqueezePlay (that is producing the sound) and the LMS web interface that just controls SqueezePlay but doesn't produce any sound on it's own. Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98271 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do I add a song that is currently playing to a playlist.
Mnyb wrote: You only get the context menu on the players and iPeng not in the web-UI . Yes, it works perfectly on all of my players, but in iPeng for iPad, I can see playlist manager in song info, but the only context option I see is +add to end or play. No option to pick another playlist. If I tap playlist manager, I see the iPeng home page and playlist manager page says EMPTY Squeezed_Rotel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98264 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
bpa wrote: Sure this faciity has been available on other radio players but we are talking about an Squeezebix context 1. Functionality is similar axcross all types of player SB3, Transporter, Radiop and Touch. You are limiting to Touch (Radio doesn;t have enough memory) when not running mini LMS. 2. FF/REW controls are done by the server ie. LMS or mysb.com not by the player. If done by player then time estimation has to be done by player and then communicated to server - lots of new work. 3. Sync will not be possible if done on a per player basis. No problem if it works across the whole Squeezebox line, and sync is necessary for me. And I always run LMS so the need for a server is not an issue for me. But, as TuneIn radio is the internet radio player for the SBoxes today, and is available for some other platforms with this functionality, I thought maybe they (tunein) could be talked into making a LMS compatible version. Maybe that is a lot of work for them and the SBox line is a dead market with no expected revenues. If someone comes up with this as a plugin I'm all for it. Mikael mikael_b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pause a radio stream ...
bpa wrote: you might as well provide a PVR type functionality and save the stream to disk rather than hold it in memory. I think my mom would like that. She's listening to radio on the Boom, but some listen-again programs are only available on the web. So she has to listen to them on the Mac, complicated and not whole-houseĀ If recording was an option I'm sure she'd use that immediately. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do I add a song that is currently playing to a playlist.
Squeezed_Rotel wrote: Yes, it works perfectly on all of my players, but in iPeng for iPad, I can see playlist manager in song info, but the only context option I see is +add to end or play. No option to pick another playlist. If I tap playlist manager, I see the iPeng home page and playlist manager page says EMPTY If you tap on a song in the playlist do don't have add to... as an option this brings forward another menu where can continue to do what want to do . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98264 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
SWAMP05 is going out the door today! (well actually over the internet, I guess that counts as a doorway) Boy did this thing turn out to be harder than I thought. Because I was going for 2 layer (for cost and turn time issues, remember: high quality, fast, cheap -- any two. This had some major implications for the high speed differential interfaces: USB and Ethernet. It turns out it's very difficult to get the right impedance with only two layers. I finally worked it out. If I can figure out how to post a picture here I'll send a plot of it. So now we should probably start thinking about Gen1 details, such physical size, what case (these two go together. SWAMP05 wound up being 4.3 x 3.6. I don't see Gen1 being any smaller. There are a lot of connectors to put on it, so I don't think my original idea of 4x3 with the 3 as the back edge with the connectors working, it just isn't going to fit. If we put the connectors on the long side (as I did in SWAMP05) the smallest dimension it can be is 4, the smallest the other could then be is about 3.5. They could be larger. Based on previous discussions I think I'm going to put a USB hub on the board, so we will have 4 USB type A jacks, even with stacking that takes up a lot of room for full size jacks. I envision two stacks of two jacks. I was thinking originally of doing two USB with an RJ45, but now we have 4, AND the 2USB-1RJ45 don't have builtin magnetics for the Ethernet. So I'm looking at two stacks of two USB, single Ethernet by itself, stacked RCA jacks, TOSLINK, HDMI and DC power. BTW Toshiba no longer makes optical audio modules and they have the trademark on TOSLINK, so I guess we should call it something else. The other big thing we need to decide is what we are going to do about WiFi. I personally like the concept of using the Wizfi630 module which does everything for us without needing any processor resources or drivers on the wandboard. Others want to use the builtin WiFi module on the dual wandboard. It's cheaper since it is already there, but you need to get all the right drivers installed etc, and it's difficult to get all the functionality we can get from the Wizfi630. Then there is the issue of balanced output or not. Balanced adds to the cost and complexity, but is still easier to do on the main board rather than on a daughter board which can be done. If it's on the main board then everyone is paying for it. In the case of HDMI it is litterally an extra 95 cents connector, but balanced takes quite a bit more circuitry and quite a bit of extra space. We are probably talking at least an extra $75 to add Balanced. Do we want to add that to every board or have available a $150 add on board which has to somehow mount in the box and connect to the main board. If we do the add on board then the main board and case have to be designed for it. Although once we have a modular system there are other add on boards that could be developed. Just a few thoughts. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: Balanced adds to the cost and complexity, but is still easier to do on the main board rather than on a daughter board which can be done. If it's on the main board then everyone is paying for it. In the case of HDMI it is litterally an extra 95 cents connector, but balanced takes quite a bit more circuitry and quite a bit of extra space. We are probably talking at least an extra $75 to add Balanced. Do we want to add that to every board or have available a $150 add on board which has to somehow mount in the box and connect to the main board. If we do the add on board then the main board and case have to be designed for it. Although once we have a modular system there are other add on boards that could be developed. The $75 would be a significant increase for everyone, so I'd offer it as an option for those who really want it. Just my personal opinion. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No sound in LMS web interface
bobb wrote: I call this the web interface,so one of us is confused i guess. Yup, you are confusing your SqueezePlay software player and the LMS web UI. The first plays audio on your computer, the later does not. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98271 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
I agree. I'd have thought the people who's be wanting balanced outputs would likely to use external DACs. paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: So now we should probably start thinking about Gen1 details, such physical size, what case (these two go together. SWAMP05 wound up being 4.3 x 3.6. I don't see Gen1 being any smaller. There are a lot of connectors to put on it, so I don't think my original idea of 4x3 with the 3 as the back edge with the connectors working, it just isn't going to fit. If we put the connectors on the long side (as I did in SWAMP05) the smallest dimension it can be is 4, the smallest the other could then be is about 3.5. They could be larger. What connectors are we talking about on each side ? If we are thinking ahead for Gen2, it would be important that we can put it in a nice box without being forced to have a lot of ugly visible cables sticking out of the front. I think that's more important than getting it as small as possible. JohnSwenson wrote: Based on previous discussions I think I'm going to put a USB hub on the board, so we will have 4 USB type A jacks, even with stacking that takes up a lot of room for full size jacks. I envision two stacks of two jacks. I was thinking originally of doing two USB with an RJ45, but now we have 4, AND the 2USB-1RJ45 don't have builtin magnetics for the Ethernet. So I'm looking at two stacks of two USB, single Ethernet by itself, stacked RCA jacks, TOSLINK, HDMI and DC power. A built-in hub sounds nice, but one question that comes to mind is why we need more than two USB connections ? An IR receiver and a USB DAC are obvious things that could use USB, but what else is there if we are talking about a player device ? If we are talking about a server device 4 USB connections would be nice because then you also want the ability to connect a USB hard drive, but the previous ideas was to not design it as a server as I understood it. Still, if the only issue is that it makes the board larger and a few dollars more expensive, I don't have any issues if we want to select the 4 built-in USB connector solution since it opens up some flexibility for the future. JohnSwenson wrote: The other big thing we need to decide is what we are going to do about WiFi. I personally like the concept of using the Wizfi630 module which does everything for us without needing any processor resources or drivers on the wandboard. Others want to use the builtin WiFi module on the dual wandboard. It's cheaper since it is already there, but you need to get all the right drivers installed etc, and it's difficult to get all the functionality we can get from the Wizfi630. Letting those who want WiFi pay the extra $35 for the Wizfi630 sounds ok to me. JohnSwenson wrote: Then there is the issue of balanced output or not. Balanced adds to the cost and complexity, but is still easier to do on the main board rather than on a daughter board which can be done. If it's on the main board then everyone is paying for it. In the case of HDMI it is litterally an extra 95 cents connector, but balanced takes quite a bit more circuitry and quite a bit of extra space. We are probably talking at least an extra $75 to add Balanced. Do we want to add that to every board or have available a $150 add on board which has to somehow mount in the box and connect to the main board. If we do the add on board then the main board and case have to be designed for it. Although once we have a modular system there are other add on boards that could be developed. Definitely put it as a separate board for $150, the people who care about balanced outputs isn't going to care if they have to pay $150 extra. I think it's important to keep the audiophile stuff which adds significant costs outside the main board, else you won't be able to use the main board in cheap devices, like a Squeezebox Radio kind of device. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
John, congratulations on the launch of SWAMP0.5! On the matter of balanced outputs, it would seem reasonable to think of them as an extra cost 'optional' add-on. If the SWAMP1.0 internal DAC is that good, those of us with balanced setups can probably afford to pay the extra fare and retire our external DAC. Best regards, Guido F. guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: So now we should probably start thinking about Gen1 details, such physical size, what case (these two go together. SWAMP05 wound up being 4.3 x 3.6. I don't see Gen1 being any smaller. There are a lot of connectors to put on it, so I don't think my original idea of 4x3 with the 3 as the back edge with the connectors working, it just isn't going to fit. If we put the connectors on the long side (as I did in SWAMP05) the smallest dimension it can be is 4, the smallest the other could then be is about 3.5. They could be larger. Personally, I see no advantage to the end user to making the board as small as possible, other than perhaps cost. Based on previous discussions I think I'm going to put a USB hub on the board, so we will have 4 USB type A jacks, even with stacking that takes up a lot of room for full size jacks. I envision two stacks of two jacks. I was thinking originally of doing two USB with an RJ45, but now we have 4, AND the 2USB-1RJ45 don't have builtin magnetics for the Ethernet. So I'm looking at two stacks of two USB, single Ethernet by itself, stacked RCA jacks, TOSLINK, HDMI and DC power. Did you forget coax S/PDIF? One thing I'd like you to consider is the possibility of allowing some easy end user mods, including upgrading the RCA connectors. Do the stacked RCA connectors lend themselves to that? What about a physical power switch and a reset switch? I'd expect a reset switch to be on the back of the unit, so it would probably need to be on the board itself. For power, a switch header that could be extended by cable to the front of the case would be nicer, but if necessary it too could also be on the back and directly on the board. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: SWAMP05 is going out the door today! Congratulations! Just my uninformed opinion on wifi and balanced outputs : - In terms of wifi I think it would be really nice if the device could bring its own network, and discover other players or servers locally. So I'd rather vote for the feature-packed/future proof wifi module. - As for balanced outputs, not knowing what this is for, I don't value it much. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
paulster wrote: I agree. I'd have thought the people who's be wanting balanced outputs would likely to use external DACs. True, but I'd like the option of using the internal DAC (which is likely to be very good) and feed my balanced inputs of preamp. Perhaps the extra box is the key. I would pay the extra cost for this option. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
garym wrote: True, but I'd like the option of using the internal DAC (which is likely to be very good) and feed my balanced inputs of preamp. Perhaps the extra box is the key. I would pay the extra cost for this option. I think that's the key: you'd be prepared to pay extra. I'd say an optional board for balanced is the right way to go if it's going to add this much to the price. Knowing John's attention to detail and his engineering credentials I'd probably go for the balanced output, but others who are not interested in balanced outputs or who have nice USB DACs would benefit from not having their costs increased unnecessarily. paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
paulster wrote: I think that's the key: you'd be prepared to pay extra. I'd say an optional board for balanced is the right way to go if it's going to add this much to the price. Knowing John's attention to detail and his engineering credentials I'd probably go for the balanced output, but others who are not interested in balanced outputs or who have nice USB DACs would benefit from not having their costs increased unnecessarily. agree. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] My squeezebox classic has wiped firmware i believe how to get firmware on it?
Sounds like some electrolytic capacitor or other is on it's last legs. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98263 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: Based on previous discussions I think I'm going to put a USB hub on the board, so we will have 4 USB type A jacks, even with stacking that takes up a lot of room for full size jacks. I envision two stacks of two jacks. I was thinking originally of doing two USB with an RJ45, but now we have 4, AND the 2USB-1RJ45 don't have builtin magnetics for the Ethernet. So I'm looking at two stacks of two USB, single Ethernet by itself, stacked RCA jacks, TOSLINK, HDMI and DC power. Sounds good - like the idea of not needing an external hub. The other big thing we need to decide is what we are going to do about WiFi. I personally like the concept of using the Wizfi630 module which does everything for us without needing any processor resources or drivers on the wandboard. Others want to use the builtin WiFi module on the dual wandboard. It's cheaper since it is already there, but you need to get all the right drivers installed etc, and it's difficult to get all the functionality we can get from the Wizfi630. I've not tried extensive tests with the wifi card yet, but think the dual core board is definately the way to go. If we stick to the wifi on the card then we can integrate it with the web and jivelite UIs to control it rather than needing another web interface. Perhaps have the option to add it, but allow most people to use the dual lite board with the built in one? (definately worth it for the extra cpu power) BTW - also making good progress with the jivelite UI - now have something I running reasonably well for browsing/now playing and early selection of output device via a HMDI screen/IR remote. Working well with usb dacs on a straight wandboard. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
Hi there. I was wondering if it would be possible to add a notification widget like the music player or the other remotes like xbmc have; where a pause/back/next widget with album art is placed in the notification area? This would be very useful for quick access. belrik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59272 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No sound in LMS web interface
Well... i must not have my day . i could swear this interface use to give sound, but, i'm mistaken . Sorry for the bother. cheers bobb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57596 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98271 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No sound in LMS web interface
As long as you've got SqueezePlay working, it doesn't really matter though, does it? (That is, other than wondering about memory loss). aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98271 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Usage of online services in your family ?
paulster wrote: 1. Single account for MOG 2. N/A 3. N/A 4. No 5. Happy with how it is now. Love that MOG can stream to more than one device with different streams, and supports synchronisation as well. I finding that no 5 is no longer the case . That rug one stream will now cutoff the other . jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98198 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No sound in LMS web interface
It might appear that the web Interface is producing sound if you have Squeezeplay opened, as the web interface can be used to control Squeezeplay once it is opened SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98271 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Usage of online services in your family ?
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: I finding that no 5 is no longer the case . That rug one stream will now cutoff the other . I've just tested it again right now and I have two different streams running from MOG perfectly. Weird that you don't. Hopefully this isn't something that's getting rolled out gradually. I forgot to add that I also use the MP3tunes Music Locker, because I use the DAR.FM service to record a radio show I always miss on a Saturday night, and that drops the recordings into MP3tunes. paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98198 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
I'm really impressed by the passion that people like JohnSwenson, Triode, JackOfAll and others (sorry if I missed a few names) lead them to invest their time and money to work on this project! Although I'm quite happy with my current line-up of Logitech/SB devices and have no fear about the future without Logitech supporting the system (I'm not using online services), the effort those people show-up makes me even happier about my bet on the Squeezebox ecosystem. I have the feeling that it's time now to think about the 'funding' part of this project. Maybe it's hard to compensate the time that the people currently driving the development of this project invest. But what *should* be possible is to compensate their expenses e.g. for hardware they're buying to test. Any thoughts how this can be organized? Should we setup a list where these people can enter their expenses and others can enter their compensation payments? Since I never used Paypal before (and prefer to keep it like this), I'd like to be able to pay something without the need of a Paypal account. -- Reinhold reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
I saw just now the answers to my request for FLAC multichannel support. I hope it will be considered in the future. Having the HDMI output on board practically begs for it. But I understand software would need to change as well. :( gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Maybe it's hard to compensate the time that the people currently driving the development of this project invest. But what *should* be possible is to compensate their expenses e.g. for hardware they're buying to test. Any thoughts how this can be organized? Should we setup a list where these people can enter their expenses and others can enter their compensation payments? Since I never used Paypal before (and prefer to keep it like this), I'd like to be able to pay something without the need of a Paypal account. I'd love to get one of these at some point (even though I don't really need one), just to show support. (I'm hoping when the 1.0 version is eventually made available the sale price will include some reasonable profit.) Beyond that, I agree that direct payments can be difficult, both technically and socially. Other ideas include opening up Amazon wish lists so people can buy something off of them, basically sending someone a nice gift in return for all this effort (e.g., buying someone a book or an album as a way of saying thanks). Even further removed from actual compensation for materials used: people may have a favorite charity they'd like people to donate to, something like that. But sometimes people enjoy doing this work just for the love of doing it, as a way of giving back to the community, or just for the fun of it. I totally get that -- it's why I'll sometimes spend an evening debugging the latest espn.com web page layout to get SuperDateTime working again. (Very minor compared to all this effort, but perhaps in the same spirit.) So if it's the latter, everyone involved has my thanks and great respect; but I'm also happy to contribute to the effort up front or as a future buyer of this new kit. SBB ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Here is a PDF of the SWAMP05 layout. If you print it 1:1 it will be the actual size. With your favorite PDF reader you can zoom in and see the detail. John S. +---+ |Filename: SWAMP05.pdf | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14586| +---+ JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Usage of online services in your family ?
paulster wrote: I've just tested it again right now and I have two different streams running from MOG perfectly. Weird that you don't. Hopefully this isn't something that's getting rolled out gradually. I just tested it and it works fine for me as well. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98198 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Here are renders of what the top and bottom will look like. John S. 14587 +---+ |Filename: SWAMP05_render.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14587| +---+ JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why I Take My Leave
... And now i can see the original post ?? mystery I think the magic behind the posting coming and going again was the forum software's behaviour with links in first time postings: when the OT modified one of the URLs, the posting was sent for moderation again... -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
