[slim] Classic Dead - What to replace it with...
My SB3 has died. Well, not completely. But I have tried new power supply, removing wifi card and other waving dead chicken suggestions. My choices appear to be: 1. Take it to local hifi repairer. This would appear to have an uncertain outcome and cost me upwards of $80. 2. Buy a second-hand SB3 on ebay. These appear to go for around $100. Still not certain how long it will last as these appear to be getting old and failure modes appear to be developing (capacitors etc). 3. Buy a cheap android tablet (or android phone) and run SqueezePlayer on it. About $80 for a cheap new 7 tablet. The SB3 is in my study connected to some cheap speakers so I'm tempted to go this direction. 4 .Buy a second hand Ipad (and run Ipeng). Various prices on ebay. I'm leaning towards option 3. But would be interested if anyone has been on this path. If I get a tablet with a USB, I could add a USB DAC later on? Does the headphone out jack to connect to the amplifier ok? Are there any other obvious options I'm missing ? (I might build a Rasberry Pi, but that would just be a project.) I still have a Touch in my lounge room, Radio in my kitchen and Boom in the bedroom. So I'm also trying to wondering which of these will die next and what I replace it with... Thanks redgum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103413 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Classic Dead - What to replace it with...
hsmeets wrote: As long as you can live without a display and are okay with controlling it from your iPeng: use the RPI and use the PiCorePlayer software. That is not much of a project, after you have received parts it should be up and running within 30 minutes. The only thing that could be a project is to stick it into a nice case that meets the WAF. +1 Raspberry PI B+ are cheap right now. At least here in Sweden. 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3 Toslink to Audio Pro T20 SB BOOM (R.I.P) Vortexbox@HP SFF piCoreplayer@Raspberry B iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103413 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NAS SSD Drive...?
paulster wrote: I use an SSD for my LMS database and I can scan 20,000 tracks for updates in less than 30s on a Celeron-powered LMS server with a gigabit connection to the NAS. Just as a comparison: I scan 10k tracks for updates in less than 20s on a Marvell Kirkwood processor, no SSD. poing's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any new good (and easy) ways to find music out there?
Hmmm, if you want more old-school, then look at qobuz, they are a bit more traditional with their recommendations. You can have a look at their website. CommanderROR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59408 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Classic Dead - What to replace it with...
As long as you can live without a display and are okay with controlling it from your iPeng: use the RPI and use the PiCorePlayer software. That is not much of a project, after you have received parts it should be up and running within 30 minutes. The only thing that could be a project is to stick it into a nice case that meets the WAF. does the all-black SB sound better than the white SB? hsmeets's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9716 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103413 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any new good (and easy) ways to find music out there?
Checkout the Music sub forum here. There's a lot of stuff recommended by the kind people of this forum. :) reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Classic Dead - What to replace it with...
If you want a display -- and a nice one at that -- your idea of using an Android tablet is a fine one. You should have no problem using the headphone out jack to your amplifier. You'll need the SqueezePlayer and Orange Squeeze apps (or equivalent); both are inexpensive. You may also need a cable like this: http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-Cable-CMR210-Stereo-Adapter/dp/B68O3B Depending on the tablet the USB out should allow use of an external DAC but typically this is the same jack through which the tablet is charged so you'll need to swap things out once in a while. I really like the Amazon Fire HD 6 for this but not sure it can access Google Play store for apps above. You'll want to confirm that or be sure apps can be side-loaded. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103413 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Classic Dead - What to replace it with...
You could go with a cheap tablet or ithing and then move to an RPi if/when the SB dies. You can use the tablet for the RPi in any case. My Touch units are still OK but I just built a basic RPi with piCore Player so that I'm covered when the SB's die. jfo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103413 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NAS SSD Drive...?
paulster wrote: For LMS on NAS I'd recommend WD Red drives in a RAID 5 configuration. The drives are quiet (way, way quieter than the Seagates I made the mistake of trying a few years ago), low power, and plenty fast enough for heavyweight music and HD video streaming. Plus RAID 5 gives you great read performance. If you were doing heavy writes then I'd go for RAID 0+1, but for most things read-related RAID 5 is great. And when you inevitably lose a drive you'll still be protected with no data loss. I use an SSD for my LMS database and I can scan 20,000 tracks for updates in less than 30s on a Celeron-powered LMS server with a gigabit connection to the NAS. And I like Synology for the NAS devices themselves. That's pretty much exactly as I have it except I haven't (at this stage) opted for an SSD drive in my Vortexbox LMS which is an old Dell Poweredge Server with a Celeron 3.33Ghz (single core) processor and 4gb RAM. The music remains on my QNAP 4bay NAS (Raid 5) which is mounted on the Vortexbox LMS via NFS rather than Samba. The scan time (15,000 tracks) is 35 seconds. I don't see any need to improve on that at present. I run 4 Squeezeboxes and a couple of software players concurrently with no issue. I chose to install Vortexbox as I was in need of re-ripping a high number of CDs - stupidly chose 320Kbps MP3 as my standard some years ago when I only had a single drive QNAP. I did have LMS running on the 4bay QNAP itself until fairly recently and the scan time was more than double the existing arrangement. It did however cope with the same number of devices OK. All of the kit is in a proper rack away from prying eyes and fingers so noise and power issues are dealt with. *Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* - iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 - Onkyo TS606 connected Digitally - Celestion Ditton F20s - and connected Analogue for Zone 2 - Sony TA FE 320 - Sennheiser RS 130 *Office* - SB3 - Sony TA FE320 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* - SB Boom *Kitchen* - UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch - Topping TP21 - AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) - Topping TP20 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] My Apps on Controller and Ipeng not Syncing / Updating - Triode Spotify related?
Cool - thanks. I'll give that a spin this afternoon when I get home and give you a shout. mherger wrote: You might be on to something - I tried to switch the SB3 back to my other server by first switching it to MSB.com and I got a message about needing to reset my MAC address and to contact support. Also when I go to MSB.com and look at my players it shows an IP address for the MAC address. I'll give 'em a shout. Please compare MAC addresses as printed on the device with the one reported in the settings. Feel free to send it to michael ät slimdevices dott com. -- Michael spedinfargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103409 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Classic Dead - What to replace it with...
I'd second the Raspberry Pi solution. I'm running three, all using piCorePlayer 1.19: A model B with a USB connection to an external DAC A second model B with a HiFiBerry DAC (this required a small amount of soldering, but not difficult A model 2 with an IQaudioDAC+ (this requires no soldering and has the advantage of a headphone jack as well as RCAs to connect to the amplifier. If you're running a DAC already I'd go with the first option. Robert Touch DacMagic 100 Naim Audio Nait 3 Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 SqueezePad, iPeng, Squeezeplay, piCorePlayer(PiB)DACMagic 100, PiCorePlayer(Pi2)IQAudIO DAC+Sennheisers, (piCorePlayer(PiB)HiFiBerryDAC in reserve) QNAP TS-239, LMS 7.9 last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103413 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Classic Dead - What to replace it with...
bernt wrote: +1 Raspberry PI B+ are cheap right now. At least here in Sweden. I don't think the standard analogue out on a Pi is sufficiently good to make it a contender on its own. You will hear unexplained crackle and pops. I think you would have to couple it to either a Pi DAC card or USB Dac pretty much straight away. I think my preference would be a second hand iPad or iPod Touch with iPeng and perhaps something like one of these - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/191532444018?limghlpsr=truehlpv=2ops=trueviphx=1hlpht=truelpid=108chn=psdevice=cadtype=placrdt=0ff3=1ff11=ICEP3.0.0-Lff12=67ff13=80ff14=108ff19=0 The combination of the two would allow you to use the iThingy anwhere around the house as a controller and as a player to the AirPlay adapter wherever you wanted it. These adapters do have an Optical out as well as Analogue. *Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* - iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 - Onkyo TS606 connected Digitally - Celestion Ditton F20s - and connected Analogue for Zone 2 - Sony TA FE 320 - Sennheiser RS 130 *Office* - SB3 - Sony TA FE320 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* - SB Boom *Kitchen* - UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch - Topping TP21 - AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) - Topping TP20 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103413 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any new good (and easy) ways to find music out there?
I use the Smartmix plugin to generate on the fly playlists pulled from my own collection and Spotify. That's pretty good for finding new stuff similar to your existing collection. I also exchange emails with a fried with whom I share Spotify playlists, and I occasionally look at what my Last.FM friends have been playing. Robert Touch DacMagic 100 Naim Audio Nait 3 Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 SqueezePad, iPeng, Squeezeplay, piCorePlayer(PiB)DACMagic 100, PiCorePlayer(Pi2)IQAudIO DAC+Sennheisers, (piCorePlayer(PiB)HiFiBerryDAC in reserve) QNAP TS-239, LMS 7.9 last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !
1. I answered on the other thread: it's probably a caching issue on our side. We will have to look into it. 2. We'll have vouchers probably next week. 3. Let's say: I can't comment on this right now. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102497 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
ChipMonk wrote: There is also a great deal of ongoing discussion with manufacturers to help them take advantage of the new technology. It is definitely very important for us to help support the industry through these changes, and the team are very focused on that activity. Once again, I apologise for the inconvenience that these changes have caused. Best wishes James So much effort on behalf of the BBC and manufacturers that not one has implemented any changes. Pure already had the 'code' - SB got there only through the sterling efforts of certain people. Not an impressive response by the BBC or the manufacturers. Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1 Vistron internet radio (Reciva) Pure One Flow castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
I suspect they have been sold a pup by the 3rd party providers, have signed a whopping great contract with them and are now caught with their bloomers round their ankles with nowhere to go. The fact that James mentions the plans to implement a UK only version of the MP3 fallback streams came about only as a result of our protestations shows that there were many things they just failed to consider. *Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* - iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 - Onkyo TS606 connected Digitally - Celestion Ditton F20s - and connected Analogue for Zone 2 - Sony TA FE 320 - Sennheiser RS 130 *Office* - SB3 - Sony TA FE320 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* - SB Boom *Kitchen* - UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch - Topping TP21 - AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) - Topping TP20 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
d6jg wrote: I suspect they have been sold a pup by the 3rd party providers, have signed a whopping great contract with them and are now caught with their bloomers round their ankles with nowhere to go. The fact that James mentions the plans to implement a UK only version of the MP3 fallback streams came about only as a result of our protestations shows that there were many things they just failed to consider. It's sad that this has really descended into a such a mess. It has to stand alongside all those other 'failed' expensive solutions provided by outside agencies to government departments. Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1 Vistron internet radio (Reciva) Pure One Flow castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
In the early days of this sad affair, I attempted to directly contact all members of the BBC senior management with some remit in this area, as well as politicians, BBC complaints departments and feedback programmes, media etc. My initial communication with Helen Boaden (BBC Director of Radio) was very rapidly passed on to Andrew Scott, who replied immediately. Andrew's various replies to me were very much in the manner which became familiar when he later started appearing on the BBC blog posts, despite my urging that his team should take a more cooperative and conciliatory stance vis a vis bloggers who, at that stage, were mainly trying to help. Incidentally, Andrew's first email to me also inadvertently had Ms Boaden's forwarding message attached (17th Feb.) and it was pretty clear that she was not at all happy about what was starting to show up and wanted swift action, although I suspect she thought that an apology would be enough! I did not directly hear from any other BBC manager until today, when I received a reply from James Purnell, former New Labour minister now Director, BBC Strategy and Digital. For information and comment, I copy his reply in full below since very few BBC management voices have been heard to date. It has a very familiar ring to it and, as usual, emphasis is on the plan rather than the actual implementation and outcomes, but we're used to that: Thank you for contacting me and I apologise for the inconvenience that these changes have caused you. I am aware of the Audio Factory project, and the impact this has had on Internet radios and some other devices. The scope of the project was clearly much broader than these devices, and delivered significant improvements in efficiency and simplicity, as well as improvements in quality to the vast majority of our radio listeners, but I understand that will be of little consolation to you. The team defined a set of technologies that provide the right balance of improvements and compatibility for these devices. I believe that the team did make appropriate decisions on the technology solutions, given the cost constraints within which we need to operate. Certainly there was not an option of continuing with the previous technologies and the new system provides basic compatibility for as many devices as possible with enhanced services for more capable devices. It is never easy when we have to change the services which people have become used to. It is also clear that whilst the team did have a plan to try to minimise the impact on users, that did not work as intended. The plan involved communicating with manufacturers and other industry partners far enough in advance of the changes to allow the necessary modifications to be made. That early communication did provide some useful input which allowed the team to refine their plan, but did not work effectively in terms of minimising the impact on all our users, and I know that the team are reviewing why. They are also considering how they could have communicated these changes to our audience in advance. I know that Helen Boaden and Ralph Rivera are planning to review this. I know that there has been extensive discussion on our Internet Blog about this issue. This dialogue has actually resulted in some significant changes in what the team are delivering, including adding new UK only version of the backward compatible streams. There is also a great deal of ongoing discussion with manufacturers to help them take advantage of the new technology. It is definitely very important for us to help support the industry through these changes, and the team are very focused on that activity. Once again, I apologise for the inconvenience that these changes have caused. Best wishes James ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
It's pretty clear that Andrew Scott doesn't really know what's going on. He claims all his statements are made in good faith but so many are just plain wrong! We've turned off RTMP. Errr. No you haven't! Listen Again is available via HLS/AAC at 320kbps. Errr. Try 128kbps. He and the BBC have no idea just how many users they have affected. Someone, and I doubt it's Scott, didn't understand what was being proposed nor what they were signing. There are people saying the Pure radios aren't actually working properly so it could just be us that have access to live UK content at 320kbps. It's still a success though!!! *Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* - iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 - Onkyo TS606 connected Digitally - Celestion Ditton F20s - and connected Analogue for Zone 2 - Sony TA FE 320 - Sennheiser RS 130 *Office* - SB3 - Sony TA FE320 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* - SB Boom *Kitchen* - UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch - Topping TP21 - AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) - Topping TP20 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
d6jg wrote: It's pretty clear that Andrew Scott doesn't really know what's going on. He claims all his statements are made in good faith but so many are just plain wrong! We've turned off RTMP. Errr. No you haven't! Listen Again is available via HLS/AAC at 320kbps. Errr. Try 128kbps. He and the BBC have no idea just how many users they have affected. Someone, and I doubt it's Scott, didn't understand what was being proposed nor what they were signing. There are people saying the Pure radios aren't actually working properly so it could just be us that have access to live UK content at 320kbps. It's still a success though!!! I've got a Pure which works ... but it's a clunky retro interface, and there's no way to control it via the app which just streams to the radio and stops when the app is closed - useless really. Seems there's no way to penetrate the wall of nonsense the BBC have constructed around this fiasco. Isn't there anybody here who knows Tony up-close and personal, because unless somebody actually takes control of this and intervenes, then the obfuscation looks like it'll just go on and on. Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1 Vistron internet radio (Reciva) Pure One Flow castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
i am surprised Beeb bashing media such as the Daily Mail aren't interested. Perhaps we could ask Jeremy Clarkson to get involved. He's not that busy so I am told. *Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* - iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 - Onkyo TS606 connected Digitally - Celestion Ditton F20s - and connected Analogue for Zone 2 - Sony TA FE 320 - Sennheiser RS 130 *Office* - SB3 - Sony TA FE320 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* - SB Boom *Kitchen* - UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch - Topping TP21 - AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) - Topping TP20 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
d6jg wrote: i am surprised Beeb bashing media such as the Daily Mail aren't interested. Perhaps we could ask Jeremy Clarkson to get involved. He's not that busy so I am told. Not a good idea, in my book. The problem is that those in positions of power who could possibly insist on a solution most likely don't understand the technical issues, and probably don't realise how many listeners are affected. Of course, people wingeing on the blog that the Five Live jingles are in mono, or that they can't get Tony Blackburn at 320 bps doesn't help either! Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1 Vistron internet radio (Reciva) Pure One Flow castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
Indeed. I was joking. You are spot on concerning the lack of understanding about the technical issues. When I wrote to my MP I found it very difficult to adequately explain the issue in layman terms. She hasn't responded. The chatter on the blog is dying down which is I suppose inevitable. There is little commercial motivation for any of the manufacturers to take issue with the BBC - they are just a small part of the industry and why would any manufacturer volunteer to spend money for zero return. The aggregators may be more peed off but presumably they pay a fee to the BBC to get the streams which they on sell to the manufacturers. Easy to sweeten their pill. I don't think we should let things lie but unsure what further action apart from lobbying is actually available to us. *Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* - iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 - Onkyo TS606 connected Digitally - Celestion Ditton F20s - and connected Analogue for Zone 2 - Sony TA FE 320 - Sennheiser RS 130 *Office* - SB3 - Sony TA FE320 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* - SB Boom *Kitchen* - UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch - Topping TP21 - AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) - Topping TP20 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
PS Tony Blackburn should always be at 320 bps anyway :) *Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* - iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 - Onkyo TS606 connected Digitally - Celestion Ditton F20s - and connected Analogue for Zone 2 - Sony TA FE 320 - Sennheiser RS 130 *Office* - SB3 - Sony TA FE320 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* - SB Boom *Kitchen* - UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch - Topping TP21 - AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) - Topping TP20 - Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC online radio fiasco - comments, news, moans, campaigns
d6jg wrote: Indeed. I was joking. You are spot on concerning the lack of understanding about the technical issues. When I wrote to my MP I found it very difficult to adequately explain the issue in layman terms. She hasn't responded. The chatter on the blog is dying down which is I suppose inevitable. There is little commercial motivation for any of the manufacturers to take issue with the BBC - they are just a small part of the industry and why would any manufacturer volunteer to spend money for zero return. The aggregators may be more peed off but presumably they pay a fee to the BBC to get the streams which they on sell to the manufacturers. Easy to sweeten their pill. I don't think we should let things lie but unsure what further action apart from lobbying is actually available to us. Pessimistically, I think there's very little which can be done. People have tried a wide range of options - none of which seem to have had any effect given the Audio Factory's response has been to just tough it out. Goodness knows how may listeners they've actually lost - the i-thingy crowd probably haven't even noticed any changes as their listening experience is probably limited to less than 7 seconds before they move off to some other media event of zero-content and importance! Call me an elitist snob if you like, but the serial dumbing down of broadcast media into smaller and smaller impact chunks makes me fume. In one sense, the provision of on-demand, listen again material, is becoming superfluous as everything broadcast is repetively rebroadcast over any 24 hour cycle as a live stream - the news channels are specific offenders when a news item (which they call a 'story') is rebroadcast every 15 minutes - drives me nuts! Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker Squeeze2upnp - Sonos Play1 Vistron internet radio (Reciva) Pure One Flow castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
