Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2015-11-06 Thread mps

Since changing to an Android phone, I've been using SqueezeCommander on
my phone (along with iPeng on iPad) and just thought I'd post a couple
of impressions in case anyone cares.

- I really like the "half-star" rating control. I have seven thousand
  carefully tagged and curated songs in my collection, and I like to
  similar curate my ratings...
- It insists on caching dynamic custom browse menus, so I have to
  clear the cache every time I go to those menus
- The design is simple, clear, and intuitive
- Overall, I don't know what I'd do on my phone without it



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Re: [slim] Announcing iPeng 9 - Support for iPad Multitasking, iPad Pro and more

2015-11-06 Thread mps

pippin wrote: 
> 
> #2... This is one of these features I don't know... Arguments
> against it: I don't get it, it makes the whole thing more complex and
> there are so few people using it 
> Also... I'm desperately trying to make the whole rating systems mess
> _less_ complex, not more, to have a chance to actually add it to Apple
> Watch, too. Problem is. right now there are like 4 dimensions for this:
> 
> >   > 
  - Rating stars for local tracks
  - "love" for remote tracks (theoretically also for local ones but
  > you have to use the context menu)
  - Add to Favorites
  - "star" for Spotify (and theoretically other services)
  > > > 
> 
> Maybe Last.fm no longer is a thing but I know a lot of users still use
> it (more than 10-scale ratings).
> 
> Ans how to get all that onto just one button... 
> 
> But yes, we'll see, it should be possible but I'm not totally
> convinced, yet.
OK. Let me take my best shot at convincing you
  
- Erland's awesome Trackstat plugin supports a 10 point rating scale.
  More compatibility with that would be great.
- Trackstat dynamic ratings create ratings that would display better
  with a finer-grained star control
- While I know that much of the world is increasingly focused on
  streaming, the Squeezebox community is full of people with carefully
  curated and tagged collection of many thousands of songs. 5 points
  don't really cut it for such collections.
- If people only have ratings that are a multiple of 20, it will
  display exactly like it does now, but for people who have
  finer-grained ratings it will display better
- Working better with Last.FM is certainly a plus, esp. in Squeezebox
  community
- IIUC, iTunes displays half stars for Last.FM
- We already know it works great on SqueezeCommander. There are zero
  posts complaining about that. Admittedly, there are none lauding it
  (although I am about to add one, because I love it), but people are
  much more likely to complain about things they don't like.
- While it is technically "more complicated," I am having trouble
  understanding how anyone could find it confusing. My guess is people
  who don't care about it won't even notice.
- If you wanted, you could make it a setting like trackstat does.
  People who don't want half star will never even worry about it
  
My bottom line is that while it's not a world-changing feature (although
it's important to me, so I'd be happy to make a donation to help support
it), there are a bunch of upsides, and I personally don't see much, if
any, of a downside (I know some will disagree).



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Re: [slim] Announcing iPeng 9 - Support for iPad Multitasking, iPad Pro and more

2015-11-06 Thread pippin

mps wrote: 
> 
>  IIUC, iTunes displays half stars for Last.FM
> 

To do away with a common myth: iTunes does NOT support half-star
ratings!
iTunes shows average ratings for albums which can be half-star-ratings
but you can NOT set a half-star rating in iTunes.

iPeng - like iTunes - only allows setting of ratings for tracks, on a
scale from 0-5. Aggregate ratings for albums can be shown in TrackStat.



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Re: [slim] Document your collection

2015-11-06 Thread Pascal Hibon

reinholdk wrote: 
> Just tried and it worked for me, using a LMS 7.8 library file. Don't
> have a current 7.9 installed.
> But the good thing with this application is, you can adapt the SQL
> statements yourself, if necessary.

I'm running 7.9.
If there are differences in the db between LMS versions then it will be
hard to sustain such an application. 

Yes, I do like the fact that it has "presets" so that the user can
generate different output data / reports. Of course, not everyone
master's SQL enough to be able to modify the queries. This thread is a
good example; it is already hard enough to "reverse engineer" how the
different tables in the db interact.



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Re: [slim] Document your collection

2015-11-06 Thread ModelCitizen

Thanks PK.

Latest version worked for me on a 32 bit system. Will have a closer look
at the output this evening.

Thanks very much.



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Re: [slim] Document your collection

2015-11-06 Thread Pascal Hibon

w3wilkes wrote: 
> @Pascal,
> LMS does store BPM in the database if... It is an integer.

Yes, I found the bpm value in the tracks table.
I'm using Mixed In Key to generate the bmp and key values. My bpm values
are in "Denon" format and are indeed numeric.



'M-DAC' (http://www.audiolab.co.uk/M-DAC%20Series.aspx?lang=En) ->
'Focal MP1200' (http://www.mp1200.co.nf/) -> 'Focal Electra 1028 Be'
(http://www.focal.com/en/electra-1000-be-2/209-electra-1028-be-3544053695099.html)
1 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom, 1 x SB Radio and 2 x SB Touch - all wireless
2 x Wandboard Dual, 1 x Wandboard Quad 
ReadyNAS NVX running LMS 7.9.0.
iPeng on iPhone, SqueezePad & iPeng on iPad.
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Re: [slim] Document your collection

2015-11-06 Thread pkfox

Pascal Hibon wrote: 
> hm... that certainly suggest that the way of tagging influences the way
> LMS stores the data.
> Hope that Michael comes to the rescue :-)

Don't know what I've started here :-) Using  my database as a test piece
I've noticed that I have missing contributors for mp3 files that I've
bought, all my personally ripped flac files are ok ( they have a
contributor , track and album id ) the mp3 files have different tags
that don't show up in EasyTag which is my editor. If I use mp3tag to
look at the mp3 files they have more information in them such as
Composer which LMS seems to create an entry for in contributor_tracks
but not in albums or tracks which I find strange. So basically as it
stands my app is found wanting - I'll have to find a way of finding the
album the track is on and link that to the track listing in my document
under the Composers name as well as the album it's on.



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Re: [slim] Document your collection

2015-11-06 Thread reinholdk

d6jg wrote: 
> In contributor_albums and contributor_tracks it seems that the role
> (appears to be 1 to 6) is dependent on which tag LMS read. 
> 
> I -think- I have identified that role 6 equates to AlbumArtist whereas
> role 5 is TrackArtist BUT if there is no AlbumArtist in the file it is
> role 1. role 2 is Composer. I haven't found examples of 3 & 4 yet.
> 
> EDIT. role 3 is  Conductor

See 'this post'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103454-Sort-order-forms-for-names=816429=1#post816429)
for a list of contributor roles.



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Re: [slim] Document your collection

2015-11-06 Thread pkfox

reinholdk wrote: 
> See 'this post'
> (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103454-Sort-order-forms-for-names=816429=1#post816429)
> for a list of contributor roles.

Very useful thanks



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Re: [slim] Document your collection

2015-11-06 Thread pkfox

d6jg wrote: 
> In contributor_albums and contributor_tracks it seems that the role
> (appears to be 1 to 6) is dependent on which tag LMS read. 
> 
> I -think- I have identified that role 6 equates to AlbumArtist whereas
> role 5 is TrackArtist BUT if there is no AlbumArtist in the file it is
> role 1. role 2 is Composer. I haven't found examples of 3 & 4 yet.
> 
> EDIT. role 3 is  Conductor

I wondered what role was for :-) I've now got to the point where I find
the underlying album for a contributor who is *on* an album but haven't
figured out how to only identify the tracks they are related to - as it
is I'm getting all the tracks on the album , which is what I want for a
*main* contributor but not one that is on only one or two tracks



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Re: [slim] Document your collection

2015-11-06 Thread d6jg

In tracks look at primary_artist - it's a contributor ID. It is the
equivalent of Artist as opposed to AlbumArtist.



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Re: [slim] Document your collection

2015-11-06 Thread reinholdk

See 'here'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101600-LMS-Extractor-Is-Now-Available=781353=1#post781353)
for an other application that exports data from LMS (didn't try it
myself).



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Re: [slim] Document your collection

2015-11-06 Thread d6jg

pkfox wrote: 
> Don't know what I've started here :-) Using  my database as a test piece
> I've noticed that I have missing contributors for mp3 files that I've
> bought, all my personally ripped flac files are ok ( they have a
> contributor , track and album id ) the mp3 files have different tags
> that don't show up in EasyTag which is my editor. If I use mp3tag to
> look at the mp3 files they have more information in them such as
> Composer which LMS seems to create an entry for in contributor_tracks
> but not in albums or tracks which I find strange. So basically as it
> stands my app is found wanting - I'll have to find a way of finding the
> album the track is on and link that to the track listing in my document
> under the Composers name as well as the album it's on.

In contributor_albums and contributor_tracks it seems that the role
(appears to be 1 to 6) is dependent on which tag LMS read. 

I -think- I have identified that role 6 equates to AlbumArtist whereas
role 5 is TrackArtist BUT if there is no AlbumArtist in the file it is
role 1. role 2 is Composer. I haven't found examples of 3 & 4 yet.



*Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets
*Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 ->
Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7
*Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755
-> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
*Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
*Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones
*Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 ->
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Re: [slim] Sound Opinions Podcast no longer working on Squeezeboxes (running LMS)

2015-11-06 Thread strim

Yes !! thanks you all, it works, finally after a couple of years.

http://feeds.djpod.com/corstenscountdown

Thanks again

Sander



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Re: [slim] Document your collection

2015-11-06 Thread Pascal Hibon

reinholdk wrote: 
> See 'here'
> (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101600-LMS-Extractor-Is-Now-Available=781353=1#post781353)
> for an other application that exports data from LMS (didn't try it
> myself).

Just gave it a try and it always reports an SQL error. This probably due
to some changes in the db over time(?)



'M-DAC' (http://www.audiolab.co.uk/M-DAC%20Series.aspx?lang=En) ->
'Focal MP1200' (http://www.mp1200.co.nf/) -> 'Focal Electra 1028 Be'
(http://www.focal.com/en/electra-1000-be-2/209-electra-1028-be-3544053695099.html)
1 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom, 1 x SB Radio and 2 x SB Touch - all wireless
2 x Wandboard Dual, 1 x Wandboard Quad 
ReadyNAS NVX running LMS 7.9.0.
iPeng on iPhone, SqueezePad & iPeng on iPad.
http://www.last.fm/user/phibon

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Re: [slim] Document your collection

2015-11-06 Thread reinholdk

Pascal Hibon wrote: 
> Just gave it a try and it always reports an SQL error. This probably due
> to some changes in the db over time(?)

Just tried and it worked for me, using a LMS 7.8 library file. Don't
have a current 7.9 installed.
But the good thing with this application is, you can adapt the SQL
statements yourself, if necessary.



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Re: [slim] Announcing iPeng 9 - Support for iPad Multitasking, iPad Pro and more

2015-11-06 Thread epoch1970

Just to say you have a customer for the upcoming iPeng on tvOS. 
Not that I need it exactly (there is an SB3 connected to the AV
receiver...), but the atv4 built-in app for home sharing is so bare that
1/3 party apps are absolutely required to make this thing worthwhile.
For videos I've added Plex (a bit buggy but will be fine, I bet) and for
audio I won't hesitate :)

(and having now used the remote for text input, I fully understand your
previous comments.)



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What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger • PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple •
Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson • WeatherTime by Martin
Rehfeld • ShairTunes2 by disaster123 • Local Player, BBC iPlayer by
Triode • Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins.

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