Re: [slim] Would love advice on how to diagnose Tidal buffering
No, we're in a detached house, no other APs are on the same channel gvh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110777 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] creating a current playing display
edwin2006 wrote: > I was thinking of that but are you able to use the screen just for album > art and artist info? So no (or almost none) navigation stuff on the > left? One of the now playing screens is Large Artwork and Text..you can turn off the buttons. There will still be a gray area where the buttons were, but no navigation buttons. You can also just do Large Artwork. piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=U7JHY5WYHCNRU=GB_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonHosted) if you like the piCorePlayer paul-'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58858 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110757 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would love advice on how to diagnose Tidal buffering
gvh wrote: > I've realised I can move the AP a lot closer and tomorrow I'll see what > wifi analyser says about the signal strength where the Touch is. Do the > simple stuff first. Not signal strength - are there other users of the same channel nearby ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110777 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] creating a current playing display
Android pie and windows 10 *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110757 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would love advice on how to diagnose Tidal buffering
The server is running Daphile and so ssh and the terminal is hidden away. Grr. I think it needs a reinstall to the beta version to get ssh etc. (7.9.2 - git776eb7c @ Daphile 19.01-x86_64) I've realised I can move the AP a lot closer and tomorrow I'll see what wifi analyser says about the signal strength where the Touch is. Do the simple stuff first. gvh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110777 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would love advice on how to diagnose Tidal buffering
gvh wrote: > Thanks for the diagnosis that the error is an outbound one, that must be > my ISP (the server is CAT6 to the router and then it's Virgin fibre) Not necessarily - lots of possible reason - the problem could be with the DNS server especially if it is different to the ISPs - a dodgy cable or socket on router or modem which has poor connection on the TX pins - means small packet OK but larger ones may be erratics. - security s/w in router or server which is "exmaining" packet on outward leg and so delaying them. To get an idea whether it is a network interface issue - use netstat and see you have any errors (e.g. timeout, reset,retransmission) on what should be a good connection bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110777 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would love advice on how to diagnose Tidal buffering
Thanks for the replies It was "Proxied Streaming" I meant to say (sorry was in a rush) I just discovered that I thought I had set it on all the Touches but the one in my daughter's room was not set. Hopefully this will make a big difference. Her player is in the bedroom straight above a pretty good AP with just a wood ceiling. Thanks for the diagnosis that the error is an outbound one, that must be my ISP (the server is CAT6 to the router and then it's Virgin fibre) Clearly i haven't solved it, two of these today [19-07-22 18:18:51.7565] Slim::Player::Song::open (474) Warning: stream failed to open [wimp://88028453.flac]. The thought of getting cat6 around her room to that player :( gvh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110777 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] creating a current playing display
If its a PC OS with GUI install Chrome and run it as a Chrome app. https://support.google.com/chrome_webstore/answer/3060053?hl=en-GB Once you have resized the window to suit it will always reopen with same dimensions VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110757 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] creating a current playing display
edwin2006 wrote: > Looking very nice on F11 mode. Does anyone now a command line to open > browser on a certain size and location (so not full screen) without menu > bar etc. So just a plain window.? Which OS? VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110757 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pitastic
edwin2006 wrote: > Stel depend on the weather. When it's raining ING and roads are wet I > would prefer something else beside a Ferrari [emoji6] The wet makes it even more fun, believe me *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLite-X,PiCorePlayer x3 *Server:* LMS Version: Latest Nightly on Centos 7.5 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U2 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud/Spotty/Player Groups *Remotes:* iPeng9/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite/SqueezeLite-X *Music:* 522GB,1660 albums with 23087 songs by 5204 artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110690 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] creating a current playing display
Looking very nice on F11 mode. Does anyone now a command line to open browser on a certain size and location (so not full screen) without menu bar etc. So just a plain window.? *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110757 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pitastic
Stel depend on the weather. When it's raining ING and roads are wet I would prefer something else beside a Ferrari [emoji6] *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110690 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pitastic
cliveb wrote: > It's a bit like choosing to go to Tesco (Walmart for our US cousins) in > a Ferrari instead of a Ford - no advantage, and you end up burning more > fuel. The Ferrari does make the journey a lot more fun and if I had the Ferrari I'd probably take the long way both to and from the store! Main system - Rock Solid with LMS 7.9.1 Official on WHS 2011 - 2 Duets and Squeeseslave Cabin system - Rock solid with LMS 7.9.1 Official on Win10 Pro - 1 RPi 3 Model B/Hifiberry DAC+ Pro/PiCorePlayer and Squeezeslave w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110690 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] creating a current playing display
Craig has now added an option to start the Material skin into a Now Playing screen. This will work on any html5 compliant browser so some Smart TVs will support it as well as any recent iOS or Android tablet and Windows, Mac or Linux (with GUI) PC Install Material to LMS and then call http://lmsip:9000/Material/now-playing He has left the controls in place but obviously you dont have to use them Designed for landscape mode VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110757 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pitastic
cliveb wrote: > All of the good things you mention about why the Pi4 is better than the > Pi3 are perfectly valid when considered in an appropriate context. I > applaud the fact they've decoupled the LAN from USB, and that it now has > USB3. (FWIW, I still think an onboard SATA controller would be the icing > on the cake, but we're still waiting for that). > > But none of the Pi3's limitations you mention are significant in the > context of an LMS server. My LMS running on a Pi3 with library on an SSD > attached via USB2 has never, not once, ever, given me any trouble. It > supports 5 players no problem. You don't need gigabit ethernet and/or > USB3 speeds to stream the mickey-mouse data rates consumed by audio. > > Using a more capable device when it's not justified, and suffering other > issues as a result, would be considered pretty daft in most walks of > life. > It's a bit like choosing to go to Tesco (Walmart for our US cousins) in > a Ferrari instead of a Ford - no advantage, and you end up burning more > fuel. All true but I submit it might depend on why you went to Tesco. You might have gone in your Ferrari - which model have you got by the way - in order to impress someone and not just for shopping. Mind you I suppose youd go to Waitrose in a Ferrari so the point is academic. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110690 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pitastic
d6jg wrote: > You say that Clive but all Pi variants before 4 feature a shared bus for > the USB and LAN interfaces which is known to be problematic. The Pi4 > splits them and provides a full gigabit LAN and also includes USB3 ports > enabling users to attach a full USB3 drive which is much faster than > USB2. Apart from the overheating issue or non issue depending on how you > look at it a Pi4 + USB3 drive should be much quicker than a Pi3 + USB3 > drive attached to a USB2 port. All of the good things you mention about why the Pi4 is better than the Pi3 are perfectly valid when considered in an appropriate context. I applaud the fact they've decoupled the LAN from USB, and that it now has USB3. (FWIW, I still think an onboard SATA controller would be the icing on the cake, but we're still waiting for that). But none of the Pi3's limitations you mention are significant in the context of an LMS server. My LMS running on a Pi3 with library on an SSD attached via USB2 has never, not once, ever, given me any trouble. It supports 5 players no problem. You don't need gigabit ethernet and/or USB3 speeds to stream the mickey-mouse data rates consumed by audio. Using a more capable device when it's not justified, and suffering other issues as a result, would be considered pretty daft in most walks of life. It's a bit like choosing to go to Tesco (Walmart for our US cousins) in a Ferrari instead of a Ford - no advantage, and you end up burning more fuel. Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110690 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pitastic
cliveb wrote: > Been on holiday for a couple of weeks, I'm still waiting for your card, did you lick the stamp properly? :p Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110690 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Would love advice on how to diagnose Tidal buffering
gvh wrote: > Hi, > > I'm getting occasional complaints on the Touch of Tidal buffering and I > would help on trying to diagnose the problem. I never know what to > switch on in the logs. It's got worse in the last few months. > Of course it's intermittent and of course I can never get it to struggle > when I'm looking! > > Looking at the logs I'm also seeing a lot of > > [19-07-20 08:18:23.3876] > Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (374) Unable > to get players from SN: Timed out waiting for data, retrying in 86400 > seconds > [19-07-20 08:32:11.0815] > Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (374) Unable > to get players from SN: Timed out waiting for data, retrying in 86400 > seconds > > > There was a bit of it on 28/29 June and then it started in anger on 7 > July > > Please let me know what to switch on and I'll collect a bunch of > evidence and try some stuff. > > Thanks a lot in advance > > > SB Touch x 5 > High power WiFi - the lowest strength reported is 85% > Buffering switched on in the server > Daphile on dedicated server > Fibre internet Have you tried to set the player settings to "Streaming through Proxy" This often helps with buffering issues. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Receiver - S.M.S.L DAC, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, Office: Transporter, JBL LSR305 active speakers , TIDAL HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110777 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pitastic
cliveb wrote: > Been on holiday for a couple of weeks, and am perplexed by the direction > this thread has taken while I was away. > It would seem that various people are trying out solutions to potential > overheating problems when running LMS on a Pi4. > I guess using a Pi4 then looking to fix any issues that arise is a case > of trying something for the fun of it, > but from a practical perspective, the solution is patently obvious: > don't use a Pi4. > A Pi3 is more than man enough for the task (even a Pi2 will do the job), > and it doesn't get hot. You say that Clive but all Pi variants before 4 feature a shared bus for the USB and LAN interfaces which is known to be problematic. The Pi4 splits them and provides a full gigabit LAN and also includes USB3 ports enabling users to attach a full USB3 drive which is much faster than USB2. Apart from the overheating issue or non issue depending on how you look at it a Pi4 + USB3 drive should be much quicker than a Pi3 + USB3 drive attached to a USB2 port. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110690 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
