Re: [slim] Napster streaming bitrate
Ah, I was poking around with the controller but did not see the ability to do that. Just looking now and it says the current song is 128kbps CBR WMA. Hmm... Ya the sound was immediately muddy. I think they stream WMA here so 32kbps WMA is better than 32kbps with mp3, but still. Anything with any bass or noise (I tend towards metal and industrial) sounds like poo. Napster got back to me and said they do 'up to 128kbps depending on the internet connection'. I will do more testing -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Napster streaming bitrate
Hi there, I am VERY excited to see we can finally get a streaming music solution similar to Rhapsody in Canada (come on Rhapsody, poor). I fired up Napster tonightand was greeted with muted sounded boomy music. I've googled around and poked on Napster's site but I can't find where they say what bitrate they stream at. All I can find is this...which sort of makes sense from how horrible the streaming sounds: Music - Napster offers a collection of over 4 million songs to download. They are formatted as Windows Media Audio (WMA) files. This adds compression and higher sound quality at lower bit rates compared to MP3 files. Napster music downloads consist of 192 kbps bit rate while the streaming rate is 32 kbps. Just my luck...we finally get streaming in Canada, and it is quite possibly unusable...I find 32kbps unconfortable for voice never mind music :( Anyone have any more information on this? -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Internet Radio out after update
Haven't used my Squeezebox for a few weeks. Fired it up, tried to update, failed, updated again, worked. Now I can only seem to connect to about 10% of the internet radio streams in Shoutcast, RadioIO, etc. These URLs are right and load when I enter them on my PC, but timeout or have bad data when done from the remote. These aren't fly by night IR stations that change their URLs every day (and I checked the URLs are right), Club977 80s, Chronix Radio, etc Anyone else seeing this? It's very frustrating. I'm going to have to use my Ipod Touch in wifi mode to stream internet radio to my stereo tonight as my SBR is semi useless like this. The problem with the ipod connecting as a source is I can't get multiroom working nicely :( Network is fully connected and strong signal. I've reduced my network down to it's most simple (removed WDS etc) in case that was it. No change. This fails if connected to my PC as a source (Vista64) or SqueezeNetwork directly. Locally streamed music from my PC works still. Stats: Version 7.2 r2873 Receiver: Firmware 47 Thanks for any advice. -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53678 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Internet Radio out after update
That wouldn't explain 90% of shoutcast streams failing though would it? I'll check again in a few hours. Thanks for the note. -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53678 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Napster
Bueller? Bueller? -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47168 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller doesn't reconnect to network after sleep - Please post your issues
I've had ongoing issues like this since I got my Duet right when they came out. If I leave it for a few hours or days then come back, I always have to go through gyrations involving unplugging receivers, turning off/on the remote, and sometimes rebooting my router to get the remote/receivers to get proper DHCP addresses. Router is WRT54G in WDS mode with another of the same, both running DD-WRT. I never have DHCP problems with any other device on this network, just the Squeezebox items. My local network is 192.168.*.*, and when things fail the SB items get ips of 169.*.*.* which is indicative of they couldn't get a proper response from the DHCP server. The consequence is basically such that whenever the SO wants to listen, she has to get me to spend 20 minutes running around the house getting everything going. Which really sucks. -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52702 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Napster
I concur. Any news on this? The fact that Rhapsody isn't available in Canada is very frustrating...Napster is, but we don't have a nice way to transport it. Can someone in the know outline the technical details of why Napster hasn't been done yet if they have that info? If we get steps perhaps we can tackle them one by one. Thanks -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47168 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to verify sound output?
Volume verified @ a normal level on the receiver. Firmware is updated via factory reset (was blinking white fast, etc) so now matches the other one (23) on SqueezeNetwork settings page. It's now connected like it was before, bright white, no sound from either the optical or the RCA ports, don't have a digital cable to test the third port. The one it's sitting on top of is setup identically and works. Anything else anyone can think of to try here before I send it back? -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48644 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] How to verify sound output?
Just got a second receiver. It's all setup, thinks it is playing... I have the two receivers stacked on top of each other and set to synchronize...can pull RCA cords back and forth. The old one outputs sound, the new one does not. I do not have a digital or optical capable stereo around to test them on, just RCA. Seems the RCA output might be flawed right out of the box. Any way for to verify/test this this weekend? Going to phone support Monday obviously but curious on everyone's thoughts. No sound comes out when it's on non-synchronized mode and just that player is playing either. Cheers -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48644 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver not finding server anymore
Still no solution for this, it's driving me mad. Was working for a good while, then just stopped. Network has been gone over with a fine tooth comb...nothing wrong that I can see. The problem is still that the receiver itself is getting 192.168.1.1 as it's internal address for my SqueezeCenter, when that is the router. My SqueezeCenter is at 192.168.1.103, which SqueezeCenter acknowledges in it's status page. I'd really like to pick up a few more receivers but until I can resolve this it's just not worth it :/ Only having internet radio just can't justify it. -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47834 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver not finding server anymore
Ya, PC is named, the SBC controller finds it fine and has the proper IP for it...just the SBR does not. I've tried other server and putting in the IP manually but when I enter the IP then hit ok it just does the little jiggle and won't let me proceed. About the throw it out the window :) Well not really, but this is really frustrating. -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47834 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver not finding server anymore
Progress report. Just factory reset the SBC. When it rebooted it then said there was an update available. I updated it...it auto turned off, then on, and voila, was connected to the SqueezeCenter on my PC automagically! Happiness is here. Then I realized the NAS wasn't on, so had to get SqueezeCenter to rescan my archive...it did so, SBC still didnt see the updated tracks so I turned the SBC off, back onand the original problem is back now. SBC is connected, can see the SC machine name in servers, but the SBR can't find my PC when that server is selected. It can find squeezenetwork fine for internet radio, etc. I give up for tonight. All this is doing now is making me cranky :) -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47834 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver not finding server anymore
You are misunderstanding. The SBR has it's IP just fine (as outlined in my original post). The problem is the IP that it THINKS the SC is at is mistaken. The SC has a valid IP, but the SBR is told that the SC resides at the router, not at the PC that it is actually on. I've done numerous factory resets, reboots, logging into the SBR using the perl tools to manually set the SC IP, nothing. ds2021;304606 Wrote: I believe the SBR gets its IP address from your router and not from SqueezeCenter. It should have its own IP address and not that of SC or the router. This seems to be a networking problem. Try forgetting your network on the SBR, rebooting, and reconfiguring the network settings. If that does not work, try a factory reset and reconfiguration. You should also be in touch with Logitech technical support. -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47834 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver not finding server anymore
OK I'll give them a try. The odd thing is my SBC sees the SC, it's just the SBR that does not. I've gone over the network with a fine tooth comb, everything is as it should be. The SBR is just plain out getting the wrong IP for the squeezecenter server. I just need to find out how/where it gets that from and I can diagnose this further. Thanks for the reply :) -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47834 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver not finding server anymore
Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? It still won't find my squeezecenter. I tried using the perl tools to log in, set the address to the proper address, save_data, reboot, and when it comes back it still has the wrong address (my router). Getting very frustrated. -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47834 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver not finding server anymore
Ah I figured lots of experienced people here may know the answer, hence why I asked here. The odd part is it was working for a while, then stopped. OS is Windows XP Network config is a standard internal LAN with a router to the outside world, nothing special other than a WDS router in the mix but that was there before. Latest firmwares and latest SC. Anyways, my main question wasn't please help me solve it, it was where does the SBR get the IP for the SC from? It must get it from somewhere. Autodiscovery? From SqueezeNetwork? Where-ever it's being sent from or fetched from it's wrong and that's what I'd like to find out. In my experiences tech supports are relatively poor at helping with specific questions like that. Cheers -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47834 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Napster
Napster anywhere would be nice (Canada here). It doesn't support it for the usa right now either does it? -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47168 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver not finding server anymore
Anyone? Can still connect only to squeezenetwork. The receiver seems to be confused as to where on the network my squeezecenter resides :/ Used to work, just stopped one day. -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47834 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Receiver not finding server anymore
Hi there, my SBR is not finding my SqueezeCenter anymore. Nothing has changed with my network that I know of. I've reconfirmed this several times. When I use the perl tools to discover the settings on the SBR it invariably has a squeezecenter_address of 192.168.1.1 which is my router, not my Squeezecenter which is at 192.168.1.103. SqueezeCenter status on the PC shows it thinks it is at 192.168.1.103 properly. The SBR light is blue and it can connect to SqueezeNetwork fine and play internet radio, I just can't connect it to the PC (no firewall on the PC, entirely an internal LAN). What tells the SBR where the server lives and why would it be telling it wrong? Still playing around, but this is very frustrating and maybe someone else has seen the same problem before? Thanks -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47834 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Quite upset - Rhapsody!
Actually I agree in that I may want them back...ie. have a checkbox that I can bring them back, maybe just default the plugins to disabled for non-US. -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45936 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Napster support on Duet?
What if the stream is un-DRM'd on the PC side and the resulting audio stream is then piped to the hardware? -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Quite upset - Rhapsody!
So I started the free trial for Rhapsody from my controller for my Duet. Been using it the past week and am quite thoroughly addicted to having any song on demand. Went to sign up...US customers only? Wtf? Perhaps Logitech should have a wiki or something that can be kept up to date as to what services can and can not be used outside of the US. Just annoying that I'm completely addicted to and used to it now, and then can't use it. I'd rather have not had it at all. On that note, anyone know of any on-demand streaming music services that ARE available to outside the US? Thanks -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45936 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Napster support on Duet?
Technically possible and just no-one has done it yet? Searching for something like Rhapsody to meet my requirement of playing any song within 10 seconds of finding it on an online service. Listening to my music collection is all fine, but being able to fetch anything at anytime for parties/etc is invaluable. -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Should embedded artwork in the FLAC show up?
Should I see the embedded album art in a FLAC file on the duet controller? I only seem to be able to see any art if it's in a Folder.jpg file in the same directory. I embed all of my art in each file rather than having a sidecar file . Thanks for any advice -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45938 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Should embedded artwork in the FLAC show up?
SuperQ;288414 Wrote: Yes, afaik squeezecenter should pick up the artwork in the FLAC file. It may prefer the folder.jpg file.. if you move the jpg somewhere else, and then do a full rescan it should pick up the images. Everything on the controller should should show up exactly as it does on the web interface. Ah, I missed the rescan part. I'll give that a try. Cheers -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45938 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 2 New Questions on Duet Config
Personally for the long term and ease of use, adding the album pic into the song's tag is by far the way to go. The cost of HDD space is virtually insignificant nowadays. -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44675 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Control all receivers at once with Duet
Fantastic, thanks. Ordered my Duet yesterday, got it today. That's service. Listening to Chroinx Aggression as we speak. Need more receivers :/ -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45650 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Will a duet work?
Having the remote be capable of headphone output and lineout would be a killer application for this. Eagerly anticipating. Thanks for all the answers, I think I'll grab one. -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45556 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Control all receivers at once with Duet
Apologies if this info is available somewhere, but I don't have ready access to a Duet. From what I understand, the remote controls each receiver in turn, so you can put different streams on each receiver. If you want to have the same stream going to all 5 receivers, is there a play this on ALL receivers option that is easily accessible? Cheers -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45650 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Will a duet work?
Anyone able to help verify that for me if you know? Cheers -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45556 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Will a duet work?
Thanks for the reply. The fact that Shoutcast can be synchronized makes me feel much better as that will be 1/3 of my use (local mp3s and Sirius being the other 2/3). I don't know exactly what SqueezeCenter is yet but I'll take a look. I have numerous systems around (windows and linux) so I'm sure I can run anything that needs to be run. Cheers -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45556 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Will a duet work?
Hello all, I tend towards the SB type open source model, I like it. The Sonos looks attractive but I'm not sure I need to spend that $, plus the plugins for the SB definitey looking appealing. After reading a bunch of the forum today I have a few questions before I pull the trigger on a Duet. 1) I have a large house. If I have 4-5 receivers running will streamed music be synchronized across multiple rooms? (useful for party hosting situations) I've seen numerous answers on this and would like one definite answer. The things I can see streaming are local mp3s/FLAC, Shoutcast internet radio streams, and sirius radio (canada). From what I gather it may be able to have some types of streams synced and others not? Obviously some rooms will be able to hear the music from other rooms so synchronization is VERY important. 2) How many different streams can be going at once? Is the limit simply bandwidth? How is what is playing on each receiver set? Does the remote know about each receiver and you set the music on each that way? 3) I've seen hints that it cannot stream Sirius Canada streams, this would be a shame. True? 4) Any chance the remote headphone jack will be usable one day? It would be handy to toss the remote in my jacket and use it while out working in the yard. Or line out from the remote into a portable boom box that I could place at rendom locations where-ever I was. Thanks for any advice. I'm excited to order one once I finish my research. I'm conversant in perl among other things so I'm also looking forward to poking around at some development :) Cheers -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45556 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Will a duet work?
bhaagensen;285471 Wrote: Welcome to the forums, andyg, who is a slimdevices developer/employee posted this definitive breakdown in synchronization capabilities. Edit: I realize it might not be that definitive. Please ask if you have more questions on this. Code: SC7 SN (new datacenters) MP3 radio Yes No WMA radio No No Pandora Yes Yes Slacker Yes Yes MP3tunes Yes Yes Rhapsody Yes (up to 3) Yes (up to 3) LMA Yes Yes so there you have it. The Rhapsody limitation is not a technical one, but rather due to licensing afaik. snip Bjørn Thanks for all of the answers. So I guess I'd like to ask for two clarifications...if someone could try these (if a definitive answer isn't known) that would be fantastic. Will Sirius radio streamed work in synced? And will shoutcast streams (ChronixRadio to be specific :) be synced? I'm guessing shoutcast streams are mp3 radio? I guess if NOT, then I can always save the streams ahead of time, convert them to mp3, and then play them (for parties, etc) but that's not really the ideal situation Thanks -- BrockStone BrockStone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45556 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
