Re: [slim] How long have your SB's lasted?
Here's my purchase history: Nov 2006 - SB3 Dec 2009 - Boom Aug 2010 - SB3 and Boom Oct 2010 - Boom Aug 2011 - Boom All of these are still working perfectly and I am obviously hoping they do so for some years to come. Of the SB3s one is Logitech branded and black, the other SlimDevices branded and sliver. The earlier purchase was from an on-line retailer and the later one from eBay so I suspect the earlier purchase was a new one with Logitech branding and the later purchase for a used one with the SlimDevices branding. Looking back over that I remember buying the first SB3 on recommendation from someone at work because I had bought a new house and the PC was no longer close to the HiFi. The first boom was when our daughter first had her own bedroom and I wanted to be able to play our music collection in her bedroom. 2010 was buying another new house, setting up a home office with some bookshelf speakers and one SB3 and the other Boom in our bedroom and after that it was just putting them in rooms that did not have one so we can now listen is any room of the house except the bathroom. Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
firedog wrote: > The whole point of the new software is to eliminate the local server. So > features like local synch of local music files, and random play go out > the window. I think for the future customers of Logitech this makes > sense; it just doesn't work for the existing SB customers. If you are > basing your architecture on the cloud and the assumption that users are > accessing your software with a wireless device like a phone or a tablet, > then there isn't much of an incentive to have audiophile SQ and > features. Indeed, and the provision of a device with digital audio out may make some of the companies operating on-line streaming services more nervous about agreeing to work with the new system. Even though content owners have relented on some aspects of DRM they would still prefer for there to be no way to obtain a flawless digital copy of their content. So why would Logitech develop a riskier product that has much more limited appeal than something like the radio? Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver as bridge to wireless AP?
I have used the SB3 as a bridge. It was connecting to the wireless router as a client and allowing devices connected via an Ethernet switch to the SB3's Ethernet port to gain access to the Internet via wireless. There is a quirk to this though because all the traffic the SB3 forwarded from the other devices connected to it's Ethernet port had the SB3's own Ethernet MAC address on the wireless network. This works in that any packets coming back in response to those forwarded will be correctly sent to the SB3 which then know where to forward them to but it does break some assumptions made in some ADSL routers that clients who hold a DHCP address will respond to ARP requests and thus cause the router some confusion. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96226 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
For some reason I suddenly remembered Orange Squeeze this evening so I went to market and installed it. I am just comparing with SqueezeCommander which I have used for some time. The first thing I like about Orange Squeeze is that it used the Android native widgets so it looks similar to other parts of Android. It also looks to work in some ways like the media player on ICS. So far it looks good - it has done most of the things I wanted. I am still getting used to it - I have the relationship of the screens in SqueezeCommander in my head and I have yet to get to that point with Orange Squeeze. The only drawback I have found so far is that search seems to be offloaded to the server. If the server is fast this may be a good thing but if the server is not fast then local searching as done by SqueezeCommander is faster. Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Lightening!
We had a lightning incident here recently and the damage was fortunately limited to a pair of DSL/Wireless routers connected to my DSL lines and the Ethernet port of an Xbox360. In the case of the wireless routers in at least one case the telephone line interface was damaged as well as the power adaptor. It seems the issue in this case was most likely not a high voltage between the live and neutral wires of the mains but between the mains wires as a pair and earth (ground). In that case the path to earth is through the DSL router to the phone line which has one leg grounded and the damaged parts reflect this. In the case of a cable line the same route is possible particularly if the screen of the coax cable is grounded. In this case grounding at the customers premises probably acts more to protect the cable company's equipment and that of neighbouring customers that it does to protect your equipment. -- Fozzy Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88797 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ? - I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that works good ? - I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost too much to switch - I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to something else anytime soon - I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to something else that supports this - I would consider switching if someone offered something with similar functionality - I have already started to look for something else but haven't found anything interesting yet - I have already started or completed the transition to something else I actually can't remember how long ago I bought the first Squeezebox. At the time I already had an extensive CD collection and storage was a problem. I could not easily have the whole collection available near a CD player and it was too much trouble to dig into storage boxes or even the loft to find some of the disks. I wanted something that would enable me to put all the music on a server and then listen to whatever took my fancy without having to find the physical CD. I also wanted HiFi quality, not necessarily audiophile but good enough that I wouldn't be distracted from the music by noticeable distortion or extreme colouration. I already had some HiFi separates and speakers so something that would plug into an input on my existing amp would be ideal. Someone at work recommended the Squeezebox and the fact that server would work on my Linux PC was a definite bonus. I bought a SB Classic (though it wasn't called that at the time) and was very pleased with it as it fulfilled all my criteria above. The sound quality is certainly good enough for my ears. After that I bought some Squeezebox booms, first for my daughter's bedroom then for our bedroom and the kitchen. I wasn't expecting great sound quality though I have been surprised how good the frequency response is. The stereo image is limited but no worse than a normal boom box which would typically be used in the same location. The advantage of the SB booms is access to the same library I have already spent the time ripping and no arguing over who has borrowed the CD. I have a desk with both a work PC and home PC at it and over four years ago I bought a HiFi amp and bookshelf speakers so I could listen while I worked. The home PC sound card output was simply connected to one of the amp inputs. On one PC upgrade I found the new integrated sound card would only do 48k sample rate. All other rates were converted in software and the sound quality was poor. Forcing the use of a better resampling algorithm only changed poor to borderline I decided to save some power by transferring the library (and much of my other data) to a NAS and got another SB classic to hook up to amp on my desk. The sound quality is much better and while I am working on the work PC I can have the home PC turned off. The final development is discovering SqueezeCommander for Android. This is an excellent application for controlling the squeezeboxes and something I probably use more than the web interface. So, to cut a long story short, at each stage I have chosen squeezeboxes because they do exactly what I want and have at each stage I have been pleased. I chose satisfaction with the squeezebox system as the reason I stick with it but of course I do now have a certain investment in the system. I did have an issue with a particular wireless router which I have mentioned elsewhere but changing the router concerned fixed that problem. It appears my NAS should should be able to support DNLA players sharing the same library even before SB server supports this but as yet I have not had any reason to get one. I don't have a particular interest in building a video library and in any event we have a satellite PVR attached to the only TV in the house which can obviously record and also play BBC iPlayer content and an on-demand TV box too. -- Fozzy Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Drive - what to do with playlists?
Indeed a short piece of shell script and you can do it easily. My library is on a NAS that runs Linux and the playlists are in /Qmultimedia/Music/playlists so: cd /Qmultimedia/Music/playlists for file in *.m3u do sed -e 's!/Qmultimedia/!/bigdisk/!' < "$file" > "$file".new && mv "$file".new "$file" done The line beginning with sed is all one line, the next line starts with the word done. The example above deals with moving the library from /Qmultimedia to /bigdisk so you'd need to subsitute your own disk names here. -- Fozzy Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88994 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
T-bird;631679 Wrote: > I have same phone running stock android 2.3.3 > Also same problem, no need to restart phone just toggle wifi off/on and > I get connected. > As long as I'm home I can quit the app and always get connected again > without problem, leaving home so I loose my wifi I have the same > connection problem again when I'm back I am having the same trouble on an HTC Desire-Z running Anroid 2.2.1, i.e. the latest official HTC ROM for that phone. I don't have to go out of WiFi coverage for the problem to appear - just use SqueezeCommander in the morning then go back and try to use it later in the day and find my server is shown in the list as disconnected and choosing "Connect" does nothing - no error message and no indication of becoming connected. -- Fozzy Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Using Squeezebox as Bridge - An Interesting Quirk
I have a NAS with Squeezebox Server installed on a small wired LAN with a PC and some other stuff. On this same LAN is Squeezebox 3 and, until recently, I was using this not only to play music directly but to bridge the small wired LAN to the wireless network on which the rest of the squeezeboxes sit. This wireless network is controlled by a combined DSL Router/AP which provides the Internet connection and is also the DHCP server. I was having trouble when the devices on the wired LAN were set to use DHCP. These devices would usually get an address but the software in the wireless AP/Router would then complain they were not there, would run into trouble trying to set sticky IP - in some cases claiming an IP address clash which did not exist etc. Also port forwarding from the Internet to the LAN would not work. It seems this wireless AP/Router, like some others, keeps tabs on what is "connected" by listening on the network and matching MAC addresses. It also occasionally issues ARP probes. With the squeezebox acting as a bridge it seems the DHCP transaction is conducted with the real MAC addresses of the devices on the wired LAN but the normal data traffic is subject to MAC address translation, i.e. the squeezebox sends all the non-broadcast packets forwarded from the wired network to the wireless network with it's own MAC address and then ensures the replies come back correctly by acting as an ARP proxy and giving out its own MAC address as the destination for all the IP addresses on the wired LAN behind it. Presumably it must then use the destination IP in the packets received from the wireless network to route the packets either internally or out on the wired LAN to the correct MAC address. The net result of this is that the wireless AP/Router sees IP addresses which it issued to one MAC address via DHCP apparently in use with a different MAC address (the SB3's) and gets confused. In the end I had to replace the wireless bridging with a 200Mbit/s powerline Ethernet solution because the wireless is so busy round here I was getting lots of drop outs so I am not asking for a solution or workaround for the strange bridging behavior but thought I'd at least publish what I have discovered in case someone else runs into this issue. -- Fozzy Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84556 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] best remote?
For me I don't think there is a clear winner. I have a selection of older squeezeboxes (classic and boom) an Android phone with SqueezeCommander and a couple of PCs from which I can run the Squeezebox Server Web UI. I probably use SqueezeCommander on the phone the most because I always know where the phone is - either in my pocket or on charge at my bedside so I don't need to search for it. It seems to do most things pretty easily. The control of synchronisation with SqueezeCommand seems easier than with the Web UI. For assembling a complicated playlist the Web UI seems easier but I don't always have a PC turned on (Squeezebox Server runs on a NAS) so it isn't quick and easy for more trivial tasks. For the room I often use the controls on the front for the simpler tasks like on/off, pause/play, play the last track again. Probably least useful is the remote that goes with the classic. Firstly I only have one between two classics and secondly there is the issue that seems to apply to all remote controls - where is it when you need it? On that last subject my parents have taken to putting the remote control for their TV on top of the TV so they always know where it is. It seems to me that rather defeats the object of having a remote control - if you always have to go to the TV to operate the controls the buttons may as well be on the TV in the first place. Perhaps that is a good idea - I wonder if any manufacterer would have the courage to make a TV with no remote but the buttons mounted on the TV just like in the old days? -- Fozzy Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Elton John concert steaming in FLAC !!!!
Goodsounds;591724 Wrote: > I took a quick listen to one of the files, it's a bit too muddy for my > taste. I wonder if that's how he likes himself to sound or if the > equipment was just patched together and that's how it came out. Are you talking about his voice? I couldn't possibly say if that's how Elton likes to sound but I'd hazard a guess the muddiness is due to proximity effect. If, like me you like to split something like this into songs in such a way that if played in sequence you still get the complete concert I make the split points as follows: Part 1 4:42.300 5:35.400 10:31.200 15:36.500 Part 2 6:32.450 11:30.000 18:23.450 -- Fozzy Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83551 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox keeps randomly re-booting
I have two Squeezeboxes which I believe are SB3s. One of these acts as a wired to wireless bridge between the wired LAN that has the NAS running Squeezebox Server on it and the wireless LAN with the other squeezeboxes. As noted in another post I am having some trouble with the wireless access point getting into a funny state, often triggered by using the squeezeboxes, particularly several squeezeboxes at once, synchronised. When the squeezebox acting as a bridge has lost contact with the wireless access point, cycling the power on the squeezebox can cause it to go into a kind of loop where it tries to associate with the wireless access point, fails, and then seems to reset itself (the Logitech logo reappears) then the whole thing repeats. There have been other odd occasions when this squeezebox has randomly reset though this is rare. As I have two of these I have tried swapping the squeezebox itself and the power supply independently and the one that resets is always the one acting as a bridge. I wonder if the random resets are actually due to firmware bugs with either a software exception mechanism or a hardware watchdog timer performing the reset. -- Fozzy Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83507 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Start on one Squeezebox; continue on another
I often using synchronisation to transfer the music from one room to another. There is a slight break when you first turn on synchronisation but after that all is fine. As an example I can be listening to something on the boom is the bedroom and then add the classic downstairs in the lounge as a sync slave whereupon, as long as the classic is turned on, they start playing the same thing and either box can control playback. If I then turn off the boom the classic downstairs continues to play. I don't have any of the newer squeezeboxes that can directly control another squeezebox other than via synchronisation and I don't know the iPhone application. I do have the SqueezeCommander Android application though which can control all the squeezebox including turning them on and off, editing the playlists, managing synchronisation etc. so the API is there on Squeezebox Server to do this which means if the iPhone application doesn't do it already it could do with some development. -- Fozzy Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81468 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezeplay/Softsqueeze for Android
I already have Squeeze Commander for my Android smartphone (HTC Hero) which enables me to control all the squeezeboxes in the house but at the moment I have no way to plug headphones in to the phone and listen to music via Squeezebox server. It occurred to me software player could be written for Android which would stream from Squeezebox server and play via the built-in audio. I am not sure if the Android screen is close to any of the other displays but actually an application with no display at all would be fine as the existing Squeeze Commander application would be able to control it. Other than that I now have a squeezebox classic at my desk for headphone listening and the sound quality is so much better than from the PC's integrated sound card. -- Fozzy Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81525 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Change wording to suit compilation albums?
slimpy;166354 Wrote: > I use the following format string in Server Settings - Formatting - > Title Format: > TRACKNUM. TITLE (DURATION) by ARTIST from ALBUM (YEAR) > This works for regular albums and compilations. > Tracks are displayed in this format in the web interface and can also > be used on the squeezebox display. > > -s. Thanks, that did it. Steve. -- Fozzy Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Change wording to suit compilation albums?
Working with SlimServer 6.5.1 and an attached Squeezebox 3, in the right hand pane of the web interface where the playlist for the squeezebox is display it displays songs in a format like this: 19. All Things Dull And Ugly from Monty Python - Sings by Monty Python This is fine, except that when the album is a compilation album is becomes silly. For example: 36. Love Don't Let Me Go (Walking Away) from Now That's What I Call Music 65 by David Guetta vs The Egg The album "Now That's What I Call Music 65" is not by "David Guetta vs The Egg" onlt that track is. SlimServer doesn't seem to be following either the server title format or that defined for that player so does anyone know how to change this to be more sensible? TiA, Steve. -- Fozzy Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31145 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
