Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums
I would ask the question how does the system know that the multiple sets are different except for the bit-rate or encoding? There are lots of things that seem obvious but that when you try to code them become absolutely horrendous. Bearing in mind the SC deals in tracks and it is the tags and disk structure that allow it to 'understand' albums. So if you have the same track in two different directories with identical tags but encoded differently (different bit rates or codec) are they the same track musically or are they different but just happen to have the same tags. Whilst you might say that that could never happen then consider that there are no official tags for any track just what you put on there yourself, perhaps with the help of an online source. So any user might choose to accidentally make identical tags. Also consider a scenario where an album is updated, perhaps with remix, but is otherwise identical to the old one then it might get identical tags. What happens if you have different album art in the two directories, does this make the two tracks different? What about if in one directory you have an additional track does that make the two original tracks different? Now one can easily say of course it does to any of the questions but can everyone say the same thing. One only looks at it from the point of view of one's only library. Whilst it might be possible to do complex analysis of the tracks to try to guess if they are similar musically you have two problems, one of speed and processing power and secondly which one does it choose to display and play. I can envisage situations where two tracks are determined to be identical but aren't and you can't every get one of them to play. I seem to recall this has been discussed before and one solution was that if two identically tagged tracks (differing only by codec/bit-rate) are in the same directory then they could be considered to be the same track thus allowing the system to choose the most appropriate to play to a given device. Though I'm sure that there are some ripping/management apps that might un-intentially create that situation for different tracks. However, that wouldn't work in the OP's situation because he wishes to maintain an existing directory structure. In the OP's case perhaps he should look at the custom library plugins then create some bespoke tags in the files. The the individual devices can look at a tailored bespoke library. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74288 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] General Dissatisfaction
Tags are different things to different people. They are metadata but on SqueezeCentre are used as database identifiers. However since it is possible to tag two files identically eg the FLAC and MP3 versions of the same file the only guarantee of uniqueness has to be the fully qualified filename as it is impossible to have two files with the same fully qualified filename in the same name space. (Excluding journalling file systems.) I am puzzled by the fact that some of your playlists seem to de-reference network share names into local names. I really can't see that being a function of the operating system or rather not being part at the level in which SC and other applications operate. Doing so apparantly randomly is even more unlikely. I am not saying you are wrong I'm saying something else is causing it. SC obtains the file location of every file by walking the directory tree from the initial point that you specified. It will follow symbolic links, hard links, mounted file systems, pointers etc. However, it should still be seeing them all still within the same file namespace. Whilst this could lead to the same file being in two different places you shouldn't be able to get x:\yxz and \\namespace\x\yxz SC also scans a number of other text based files for track references. Playlists in various formats and Cue sheets (Cue sheets reference the position of a track within a larger file.) If any of these use a different namespace then this would inject that different namespace into the scan. SC I believe checks for the existance of the file before it puts it into the database, not least because it wants the metadata. Therefore if it can see the same file in both namespaces it will see it as two files. Cue sheets are unlikely to exhibit the namespace behaviour as they are usually written in the context of the current directory. The initiator of the problem is therefore likely to be playlists or any other text file containing track filenames in the directory structure. You mention running some other music management tools and pointing them at the network share namespace. However, they have a habit of adding where you point them to a search list that often includes the whole computer. Running this on the machine which also hosts the network namespace could result in the tool seeing the files twice. How they look for duplicates, decide which to keep if they do see duplicates or otherwise handle it is down to them but it is feasible that they could write into a playlist both namespaces. Whilst that could explain why you get duplicated files it wouldn't explain why the duplication seems to be random. However, SC does do some database optimisation. Whilst I have no idea what is contained in the optimisation I can envisage a process that seeks to remove duplication within the database and at some point retrieves both file references for the same track and keeps only the first. Unless (and even with) an index involved the order in which two identical records are returned (within the seach criteria) is random (under the control of the database) sometimes it could return the x:\ first and other times the \\namespace\ first. This could explain the changing results. The fact that removing all playlists appears to make things OK suggests that the playlist generation is the problem. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60755 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] General Dissatisfaction
If I've understood correctly you had/have the following issues: - duplicate albums with some tracks in apparently different locations. Seems largely resolved by removing playlists (suggesting playlist generator is the problem). - web interface is slow - search doesn't work as you wish Are you exclusively using the web interface or do you also use the SB3 interface? Is it as slow as the web interface? What does slow mean? Do you mean I click a link and it takes several seconds to respond or do you mean I want to get to a track and have to go through artist and album to get to the track I want? In respect of searching, you are aware that the web interface has a search option which looks for what you enter within the trackname, genre, album and artist? Advanced search allows you to be more specific about what to look for where? For searching on the SB3 Lazy Search may be of interest. For general search purposes Erland's custom plugins have already been mentioned. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60755 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problems with PC name on network
At a guess you are using Microsoft Internet Explorer. For some reason when you put a port number on the url (the :9000 bit) the name resolution fails. I suspect it has something to do with it not knowing what protocol to use in the communications as what you see is a page saying it doesn't know how to display the site not that it couldn't find it. You tend to assume you've seen the latter since that is what one often gets on the Internet. If you simply prefix with the protocol it will work ie use http://loftvaio:9000 Other browsers, or at least Firefox and Chrome, don't have the problem. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60934 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Idea for Logitech Music Server
The core of a lot of posts that seem to come up, and this one is perhaps in keeping with that, is that there should be some form of device that plugs into existing systems be it an iPOD or existing hifi etc. Then we get into discussions about the limitations, not many people have them, limited size, others do it better/faster etc. Whilst it would still need the SC in its current form the ideal device would seem to be a small wifi capable embedded device that could act as an audio input. This then only needs to support a limited webserver/streaming protocol and you can satisfy most of what many people want. You could have it support analogue or digital inputs and it would still be in the 'Slim' client mould. Mmmm almost a receiver but backwards. The Squeezeboxes could then attach to it as they do any other steaming source. Sorts out plugging in iPods or any other portable player, CD players, distributing (non synchronised) TV sound, DAB radios, satellite radios etc I guess Sean would want their usual excellent sound quality so it would probably cost about the same as a receiver. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Great Product
Don Steiny;358078 Wrote: Hi, When I start the stream in a browser it takes a long time to start, 30 seconds or more. It seems like it is downloading more than it needs to. It gets Quicktime and I have tried many things to reset this with no luck. Also, there are several setting for random playlists, but they do not seem to do anything. Finally, as a stream, would others hear the same thing as me, like a radio? -Don Don not quite sure what you mean by listening in a browser but basically once it is set going SC starts streaming immediately it is then up to the app in the browser how long it chooses to buffer the stream before it starts playing it. The SB hardware is in active communication with the server all the time so they can discuss how full buffers are and fill them accordingly so can play a lot sooner. Each stream is unique to the player and they get their own, even browsers so whilst they may play exactly the same time and at exactly the same time they are independent streams. For synchronised SBs they are still multiple independent streams just kept in time by the server. (Browser streams can't be synchronised if I remember correctly.) -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54848 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What Wi-Fi Router For UK?
Your right, it does seem that they are locked unless hacked as you don't have the option to input a username and password for the DSL. On BT it doesn't use one but others do. I have a pair of homeplugs which are spec'd to support up to 100Mbps duplex but in practice this pair don't. They seem to be a little asymetric with 85Mbps/60Mbps at the moment. They are quite sensitive to how they are connected such as being at the end of multigang sockets. They seem to operate best if they can be plugged directly into a wall socket. Unfortunately mine don't have a pass through socket on them which is both good since in theory they pick up less line noise and also bad since it takes up an extra socket. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54691 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox distributors UK
ModelCitizen;357386 Wrote: Oh c'mon, you must have a shed or something! MC Nope. Well I do but I wouldn't want to be out in it even with a Boom and despite being a Northerner it is too cold for me in the garage. But I'm working on it maybe next year unless something else new and exciting gets launched. Socistep it was actually in the Harrogate store I saw it but close enough. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox distributors UK
I bought both my SB3s from local PC World stores around Leeds in the UK and just this past week I was surprised to see a boxed Boom in one of them. I almost bought it but I really don't have a use for it yet despite trying hard to find a reason. Never noticed a Duet but I never looked since I got mine on pre-order. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What Wi-Fi Router For UK?
I've never had much luck with the wireless on the Netgear routers. I like the routers but I too have struggled with getting range. For various reasons I also have a BT router/hub (the slightly older one now) on my other DSL line and as an experiment I replaced the DG834 I have with the BT one and the range was significantly different. Where before I was struggling getting a signal around the house (and it ain't too big) the BT router will let me get to the bottom of the garden with a laptop. I can't see it being wireless power, perhaps the aerials are better or the signal is better quality. The BT router is I believe a Thomson device at core. It also has one or two other useful facilities like a local DNS resolver so you can actual use proper URIs for internal computers, everything becomes something.home ie http://musicserver.home:9000 works nicely. What you can try with the Netgear is that since it has an external aerial you can get replacements, you could try one with a higher gain. This tends to make it more directional in the horizontal plane (or rather the plane perpendicular to the antenna) but can increase the range. Not sure what the current price is I seem to recal around £90. There are quite a few others around of course and some of them can be reflashed to support open source software which provides increased facilities. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54691 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Switching Squeezecenter to new server?
The switch back option was originally used with SqueezeCenter and SqueezeNetwork. If you have a local squeezebox that you had switch from your local server to the squeezenetwork say when you shut it down. Then previously you would have had to change it back using the squeezebox itself. That menu item now lets the SqueezeCenter tell the SqueezeNetwork that you would like your squeezebox back and it very nicely tells your squeezebox to make the change. I believe that if you have multiple squeezecenters they can discover each other and can swap the squeezeboxes between them in the same way. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54575 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Humorous bug of the day
Having been both developer, user and helpdesk support it is amazing what people think. People like to be told that something is happening and the faster they are told the more they think it's happening. We have many times proved that slowing down a long process to give status updates make the user think it's going faster and finishing sooner than doing it without updates. Sometime even taking twice as long ie 30 seconds or more going to over a minute by adding in updates had people asking what we had done to make it faster. A bit like a watched kettle never boils. Which reminds me of a trick that we used to do when we had visitors to one of our computer rooms. We had about seven racks of an RS232 PBX type switch with the usual status type lights on the front. When ever we had visitors we would switch the whole suite into diagnostic display mode which would run light sweeps in various patterns across all seven 6 foot racks, several hundred LEDS switching on and off. Used to impress them significantly more than the big VAX machines and several microvaxes that were doing the real work that all the RS232 devices were connecting to. They had only one or two flashing lights you see :) -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54675 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Receiver has to have squeezecenter running?
The controller doesn't talk directly to the receiver (except during setup only) it always talks to it via a server. If you switch your receiver to the SqueezeNetwork before shut down if you want to talk to it with the controller then you will also need to switch your controller to the SqueezeNetwork. With your local SqueezeCenter shut down your controller is probably only giving you a few options one of which is to choose the music source. On there choose SqueezeNetwork and once connected it should be able to control your receiver. Incidentially even if you have your receiver set up on bridge mode for your controller the controller still doesn't talk directly it just talks through the receiver to the server and then gets the server to talk to the receiver. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What have I done?
This is odd because you have at least two problems. 1. your squeezebox, I'm assuming you mean a receiver from your description, because on a receiver the slow flashing red means it is waiting to set up. Therefore it has lost it's config. 2. Your SqueezeCenter because you can't connect to it on the same box it is installed on using the 127 address. Did you have a power surge/brownout at the time? As ST2000 suggest I'd try a reboot and possibly a deinstall/reinstall of SC. Certainly check to see that both SC and MySQL are running and if you installed them as a service that both services are started. It also sounds like you need to dig out your controller and re-configure the receiver. As he often is mvalera is probably right here it would be worth logging a help request as you will get more focussed and quick response. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54644 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Show audiobooks ONLY in Music Folder view
I'd suggest taking a look at the multiple library plugin that way you can create two separate libraries, one for music and one for audiobooks. Then when you really do want to listen to an audiobook you can use that library and have all the SC capability at your disposal. Though it might require bending some of the tags a little. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52750 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicate Entries in SC
More than likely you have got multiple sets of tags in the files. Often for MP3 files 3.1 and 3.2 versions of the tags are written. The two sets can contain completely different information. Many tag editors may only show you, and let you edit, one version completely ignoring the other. However, I believe that SqueezeCenter reads both which is where you may be getting the duplicate album info from. Take a look with say MP3TAG and ask it to show you all the tags in the files. Another source can be playlists. If you have added the original files to a playlist then the original tag information may be being retained. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52544 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze Centre wouldn't find music on computer
I believe that earlier versions of the media player did have the copy protection option turned on by default. So if they were ripped with an earlier version this is most likely the problem. As was mentioned if you re-rip one of the CDs that can't be found by SqueezeCenter and it then can find it the copy protection is the most likely candidate. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52056 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Blank screen on not being able to find server?
I believe that I recall a thread some time ago that discussed the behaviour when the server was down. I think that it went something like you couldn't tell if the SB had lost power or the server had gone and that if you used the autodisplay which dims the displays at given times then you wouldn't know if the server had gone away which could be a problem if you had an alarm set. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52109 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sqeezecenter/Transporter does not pick up new files
You didn't accidentally rip them with DRM applied did you, if so they won't show up as SqueezeCenter can't read them. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48649 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to verify sound output?
It would be worth doing a full factory reset on the box that isn't working so that it resets everything internally and then set it up again. It is unusual that it should be at a different firmware version as updates should take place automatically to bring them to the same level. From memory hold the reset button on the front down for in excess of 6 seconds until it is blinking rapidly red then release. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SBRFrontButtonAndLED Then re set it up and see if that has cured the problem. When it connects to the squeezecenter it should blink rapid white for a while whilst it upgrades its firmware to the current version (23 if that's what the other one has). -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48644 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why SqueezeCenter is worse than Squeeze Server
I've seen the 403 before but only after I've had my Linux box resume from hibernate and FF automatically reloads sessions. I believe it has something to do with the referrer header in the html request not having the right value (ie the SC box). It forms part of the SC website security. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48646 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter shows Duet Receiver Off when it is On...
Daft point but are you sure it's white and not blue. The one I have you sometimes can't see the difference but notice it when it changes. Othertimes it's so blue you can't miss it :) When you switch both players off, you are only putting them into a different 'on' state, they never actually power down. It just commands the transporter to display 'off' screens and the receiver to turn off the coloured LED. When you turn off the PC (assuming it is the one hosting SC they are connected to) both would report loss of SqueezeCenter connectivity, the receiver with a blue light. From memory the receiver has an error message for a while before it blanks it's displays. When you turn the PC back on in the morning they both reconnect and should return to the 'off' status. Whilst it is possible that you have discovered a bug it could also be that you are seeing the receiver at the point it reconnects (hence white) before it is commanded to return to it's 'off' status thus turning off the LED. It may be worth factory resetting the receiver and then set it up again. Incidentally if the receiver is on but SC/Controller thinks it's off what happens when you try to turn it on and then off again? -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48637 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Delivery via Logitech
I seem to recall when I ordered mine from the in the UK it said that it could take up to a week (4-7 working days) for delivery. I wanted mine for a particular reason so ordered it express even though it cost more. I got it next day. For express I got a TNT tracking number fairly quickly in the mail and I think they do it for standard delivery as well but I haven't checked. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47076 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Discover SqueezeCenter through ssh ?
From what I recall the broadcast is an IP broadcast which will limit it to the same IP segment ie the local network For a network of 192.168.0.x with a mask of 255.255.255.0 it will only be noticed by hosts with .x addresses. Broadcasts go to all 1's or all 0's so 192.168.0.255 or 192.168.0.0 using the example address range. I'm not familiar enough with SSH to say but I'd guess it would need to also pass the broadcast address as well as bridge so that the Squeezebox could be on the same IP address range as the host. (I'm aware .0 isn't a broadcast address, historically though it was used that way, I believe it is now more correctly known as a multicast address.) -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47199 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet skips when playing 48KHz/24bit flac files
I think that the buffers are the same. What you describe though does tend towards suggesting that you have a problem with the wireless. Wireless problems would tend to cause dropouts (skipping) and a slower server would have problems keeping up exaggerating the problem. It seems likely that there is interference causing the problem. Whilst this won't show up as a reduction in signal strength it will show up as a lack of throughput. Only realtime activities would be affected if the interference isn't very big and PCs with larger receive buffers aren't as likely to display the problem. There are applications such as NetStumbler which can help you look for other wireless networks causing problems but lots of other devices operate in the same range of frequencies which can also interfere. If your wireless router is on the standard or auto channel it may be worth you changing the channel to another moving you away from an interfering signal. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46728 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] HELP ....... signal strenght
You can't really use the comparison of a laptop as they are differently designed. The antenna and quite possibly the radio circuitry are different in a laptop and the controller/receiver. The laptop's antenna is usually around the screen in the lid and can be larger than the controller. This also makes it less susceptible to orientation. One thing that you can try with the receiver is to stand it on one edge. This isn't particularly practical unless you can support it that way, say hide it in a bookshelf :) but it can illustrate the differences in signal strength due to orientation. You may find that changing the positioning of the aerials on the wireless router/access point can also have a significant affect on the received signal strength. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47212 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Not a comment on PeterDB's experience just a general on on antenna length. Small doesn't necessarily mean bad, increasing the length could actually make the signal worse. Antenna length is determined by wavelength and the circuitry it is connected to. Changing its length changes the balance between the design parameters. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips
One interesting point about using Squeezeboxes in a green fashion that always seems to crop up is the comment along the lines of I'm going to build a low power server . So I was wondering in global enery and resource terms is going out and buying new components, which used electricity in manufacture, fuel in distribution, resources in construction balanced by the lower energy consumption actually less than running an old PC at higher electricity usage but no landfill or need to recycle the components with their associated enery and fuel needs. In short which is greener use the older more power intensive PC or junk it and use a new system. Of course you use less electricity which reduces your bill which may be all some people care about. Not withstanding that all the other ideas like standby are good one. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46780 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Just thought I'd mention that I'm using the BT Home hub in one of the networks here and not had any problems with it serving DHCP addresses wirelessly to an SB3, Controller and Receiver and wired to an SB3. It also handles about 10 other devices as well with no issues including the server. Incidentally it also has an inbuilt DNS responder as well so if you name devices or it picks up their names via the network you can then use URL style names eg http://musicserver.home:9000 as everything on the local network becomes .home The latest software also has simple shared storage handling, if you plug a USB memory stick into the port it is mounted as a network shared drive. I've not got around to trying it with a real USB disk yet though. It also seems to have a print server built in against the other USB port but I've not tried that at all. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet: Hardware Feedback
I believe that it is implemented locally in the controller. Much of what you see and do is handled locally. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46444 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Playing Audible Books
I put my audible books onto CD so I can listen to them in the car. I don't have any problem playing them through a squeezebox. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46471 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wiping out the library - is there a quick method?
The simplest way to clear the library is to do the clear and rescan. Apart from the fact that, I believe, it does the clear bit really quickly if you were to do it any other way and there was a problem how would you know if it was your integration or the method of clearing the database. For integration testing I'd highly recommend that you use the system as designed then you know any problems are with the integration. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46542 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!
Is there a way to delete pages? I guess potentially that could be dangerous so do we just orphan the page or raise a bug. Or did I miss the option? -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46350 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Some Networking questions
The simplist way to do this is: Connect the router DG834 to the internet, from memory that's an ADSL router so just plug the line into it's internet port. Make sure it is configured for your internet service. Connect the homeplug, and second Mac to it's ethernet ports. Get hold of a 100Mbs ethernet switch put this in the other room and connect the homeplug, Mac, XBox and SB3 to it. If the homeplug has multiple ethernet ports then you may not need the switch as the homeplug would be performing that function. Enable DHCP on the router but the usually recommendation is to have the SqueezeCenter server Mac with a fixed address in the same address range 192.168.0.X I believe from memory but not one that is assigned by the DHCP server. This is the simplist configuration which should allow everything to work with each other and access the Internet. If you don't need wireless turn it off on the router. This may be the configuration that you have but the diagram and description dissagree with each other. The diagram suggest the SB3 would need to go via the homeplugs, router, Mac Mini to get to the internet. If this is the case then this configuration may cause complications. I've never used a Mac but given that it is a form of Unix it should support a remote terminal connection of some kind eg SSH. In which case you should be able to connect to it and run a remote terminal. From there you could check connectivity such as a ping etc. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46440 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Receiver LED too bright
gharris999;290625 Wrote: Do what generations of auto mechanics have been known to do when faced with undiagnosable problems and a glowing idiot light on the dash: a judicious application of vinyl electrical tape. Ahh I thought they just removed the fuse from the warning light. Doesn't work on a receiver though. If you turn it off it goes to a super bright black though (JimC's description which I love). -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46184 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dumb WHS SqueezeCenter install question
bonze;288055 Wrote: flaky as in the few times I used it yesterday - it crashed and locked me out of the WHS. I'm fully wired from the desktop to the WHS. I'll stick with the Console for now :) Now the really interesting thing about that is that the console also uses the remote desktop, it is just limited to displaying the console application screen. You can get the same screen on the remote desktop from the icon on the desktop. The remote desktop does give you more control when you start it up as for example you can bring WHS sound to the local PC and you can also use a local drive or CD/DVD drive as though it was on the WHs. The console has those disabled. It is possibly one of those that is causing the 'flaky' behaviour. In general it's better to use the console anyway. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45783 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dumb WHS SqueezeCenter install question
When they are talking about the remote desktop they are talking about using the Remote Desktop Connection application. I believe it normally can be found in the accessory menu. This is different to the console which is started from the home server icon in the system tray. The application basically connects your PC keyboard, mouse, disks etc to the WHS and copies the WHS screen to your local PC. When using the remote desktop you have to take care with the application that you use as it is possible to break WHS. Installing SqueezeCentre is OK though and it runs well. You will need to configure it to run as a service though as there is generally no one logged into the WHS. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45783 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] at wits end - ready to return
I'd suggest starting with some basic network connectivity checks. From the XP try ping to the other devices, the router, the Mac, the receiver and the controller. Try the same thing from the mac. If you have the facility on the router I'd also try it from the router. All should work, if any fail then that needs to be sorted out first as it could stop the devices talking to each other. It may be obvious but all devices should have different IP addresses and if they don't then that will cause problems. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45772 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WANTED: a SD Remote Computer Controller
Run squeezeslave or softsqueeze on the PC then the SqueezeBox Controller will do just what you want. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45413 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Grave doubts about Logitech 'support
As someone who has worked on computing helpdesks I kind of feel sorry for those people as they can't really win. They get shouted at by people that don't know what they are talking about and want it fixed but don't want to help them fix it. They get shouted at by experts who may know as much about the system as the helpdesk because they think the helpdesk don't take them serious. I can recount many stories of users ringing in complaining of computers or terminals where they can't log in. You ask them what they see on screen and they say they can't see where to put in the password. After much prompting you get the idea that the screen is black. You ask them if they have switched it on and they swear blind that they have. You ask them if they see the little red light which of course they can't. You ask them if it is plugged in and the plug is switch on. The insist it is, they checked. You go around to them, switch the plug on and amazingly there is the login prompt. The first rule of faulting always used to be understand the problem. Then understand the current state. With complex systems (and SC is one) get it into as close to a known state as you can and fault from there. One step at a time. The OP found it unacceptable that they wanted to do that because he didn't want to lose settings but the helpdesk have no idea if it was precisely those settings and plugins that were causing the issue. Log files, where he found his answer, don't always tell the truth or rather can sometimes be misleading and you are faulting from an unknown state. Disaster debugging, which starts with an unknown state, is very very hard work. So I just want to say to anyone give the helpdesks a chance. Yes they sometimes ask you to do things you know have no effect but they are working the problem eliminating things one by one. You'd be surprised how many times those things actually work, it is very easy to overlook the obvious. And don't forget many users don't have the knowledge of the people around here and need that level of support. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45372 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Typical range of Duet in ad-hoc (Bridged) mode?
I don't believe that range extenders for Wifi will operate in ad-hoc mode. So unless you already have an access point (or wireless router) you would be better getting a real access point/wireless router (you don't need to use the router bit). The range will be greater with a true AP. Of course range though is subject to many factors, location, attenuation through walls/other materials as well as local interference. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Selective indexing?
I think you are out of luck. SC indexes all the tags it can see. If it can't see the tags in a file then it tries to guess them using the directory and filename structure. You could remove all the tags from your MP3s and rely upon guessing. You could always try the custombrowse and customscan plugins to sort of filter them out. As I haven't played with those plugins I can't be sure but I am aware that you can effectively create multiple libraries which sounds like what you want to do. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45337 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet release date?
mvalera;283517 Wrote: If you mean the button on the Logitech website, that's supposed to send out an automated email when the button is changed to Add to cart. Did you sign up for the Duet or the receiver or the Controller? Also it may have ended up in a spam filter. Mike As a matter of interest I had also asked to be notified and I'd done that for the Duet and I haven't been notified. All my mail comes through to me spam and all and I filter it here and I check all the spam before deleting it. Not a problem since I was checking the site daily and saw the change and ordered one which is now sat here on my desk. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42964 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] upnp/dlna support for squeezebox
The difficulty I envisage with uPNP is that it is kind of an ad-hoc system which allows any given client to connect to any given server at any time. I can see people having problems: *I can see x servers which is my music on? *Why does the music stop when fred switches off his PC. *Why can I see the same music on different servers *Why are there different servers and why do they keep changing *Why can't I play picture.jpg? and then there are those servers that want to authorize the players before they connect them. On top of which will be all the usual network, firewall, port, tag problems as well as however the uPNP server choses to catagorise and serve them. I'm glad I don't work for support :) [Wait a minute, that's what I'm doing here for free. Darn!] -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43923 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Serverless SqueezeBox?
Since the NAS is a PC with a dedicated purpose you just defeated your requirement :) Seriously though with more laptops around the place people are considering how they backup and/access all the shared content and are turning to 'servers' in some shape or other. Many NAS are becoming that server able not only to share disks but server music, video, pictures, act as backup devices, print servers and many other functions. I suspect that over the next few years more and more things will arrive that expect to see an always available source. It is something that Microsoft with the XBox360 and Sony with PS3 are driving towards and of course there is the Windows Home Server and I'm sure Linux won't be too far away as well. There are NAS devices out there now that are capable or even already have SqueezeCentre installed. As an example take a look through the forums for RipStation which looks like being an extremely consumer friendly home media server. OK it's a ripper that also functions as a NAS but there are others mentioned from time to time. If you feel able for a little DIY there are also some very nice picoATX motherboards around, attach a 1TB disc, load the supplied Linux and you have the makings of a home server where the disc is bigger than the PC. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45244 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Another duet setup problem...
The blue light on the receiver indicates that it can't see SqueezeCentre. Once you have set up the receiver for wireless access, which was successful, then plugging in an ethernet cable has no effect as it is ignored. To configure for ethernet plug in the cable and then re-set it up. Hold the button until flashing red then reconfigure with the controller. The receiver and the SqueezeCentre find each other using a broadcast mechanism, as does the SB2. Broadcasts are limited to the subnet. It seems that the receiver and SqueezeCentre are on different subnets. However, since the controller found the SC the same way and then gave that same config to the receiver I'm a little puzzled as to why they can't see each other. Not sure how you have your subnets configured and what security you have between them. Have you blocked the receiver in some way where the controller isn't? -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45174 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller restarts?
When new software is available for the controller it will prompt you without you needing to go through menus. The fact that it says new software is available when you go through the settings menu is a known about problem and on the list to be looked at. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45187 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problems setting up receiver
I'd suggest that you check the address that you gave the receiver is correct and that it is on the same subnet as the rest of the network, particularly the SqueezeCentre. If the router has the capability try pinging the receiver, it should respond. You can also try: tracert -d receiver_ip from the server to see just how far it gets. Check that the mac address that you have in the router does match that of the receiver and that it doesn't duplicate any other device on the network. Try, temporarily, connecting the receiver to the router although this will require you to plug it in first and then to reset it and go through the set up again. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45196 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problems setting up receiver
The ad-hoc connection doesn't use as much wireless power so the range is reduced. I understand about you wanting to use wireless the reason for checking wired was just to prove that it could connect. I take it that it would be normal for your router to show the IP address address of wirelessly connected devices. So it does suggest to me that although the receiver is attached to the router it hasn't been allowed access. I don't recall if the receiver changes it's light colour if it fails authentication but I don't think so. It may be therefore that the wep key doesn't match Key 1 in the router. I originally said the above but I recall that you said the controller is connected OK so as it passes on the setup to the receiver the key will be correct. (I left it in for reference in case it is useful to anyone else.) The receiver should be as capable of wireless as the SB3 but the orientation of the aerials is slightly different because it lies down rather than being on it's edge. You could try to see if the signal strength is the problem by moving it next to the router temporarily. It may also be worth temporarily disabling security on the router and checking that. I can't really see why it would make a difference but I've seen dafter things work before. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45196 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
tomlillie;281605 Wrote: Hi, I have 3 squeezeboxes and recently added a receiver and a controller. All works well - but the controller spontaneously loses network connectivity every few days - it still says it's connected to the wireless network but cannot find the music server or the players. the players themselves and squeezecenter work fine all the time (even while the controller is throwing a flunky) and always have done on the same network - no changes. Also the controller permanently believes there is a software update. any ideas? thanks Is the controller the only wireless device? It sounds a little like it is unable to renew the DHCP lease. This could be because of interference. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Importing favorites
Thanks bpa. I didn't read the OP's message very clearly. Sorry for any confusion. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help: Wired Squeezebox Reciever SqueezeCenter
In order to setup the receiver as ethernet connected you need to plug in a working ethernet cable before the setup. If the SBR doesn't see the ethernet network it doesn't offer the option to connect that way. You may also need to factory default the SBR but I don't think so. On the connectivity I don't know the netgear router but I am going to assume it is an ethernet router rather than an ADSL router and that you have the upstream port connected to one of the linksys downstream ports. If that is the case then you have created two network segments probably on different IP networks. The server and the SB find themselves using a broadcast that is only transmitted within the same IP network. I suspect that if you ping the SB from the SC it may fail depending upon the capabilities of the linksys. One way in which it might be resolved is to turn off DHCP on the netgear router if you are using it. The make sure that the link to the Linksys is plugged into one of the downstream ports of the netgear. Essentially turning it into a switch rather than a router. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FW 36 Thrapped My Transporter
Sounds like it might be worth factory defaulting it. Remove power and start it up with + pressed. Interesting on the right display. I had something similar happen to an SB3 display after about 3 weeks of running which seemed to be related to heat as it went away when the SB3 had been powered down for a while but soon came back when powered on. Yours may of course be nothing to do with it. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45167 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why is Logitec trying to rip me off?
smc2911;282506 Wrote: As noted in the other numerous threads on this topic, duties do not explain the premium. Retailers other than logitech have to include duties too and yet are able to offer significantly lower prices (and they have to pay a margin to logitech too). True but you don't know how much they buy them for from Logitech. They may choose to have a lower profit margin as well. Businesses that don't have a good profit margin go out of business, it is a balancing act between to much profit, less sales and customers and too little and not enough money to keep trading. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45144 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet and Harmony One
'Ur[s Wrote: uS;282001']agreed, very different, but they can both control the SB1/SB2/SB3/SBR H/One (and other Universal Remotes) acts pretty much like the old remote - no album art, artist list on display. SBC not control HiFi, HTPC or other devices, just your SB1/SB2/SB3/SBR - it shows album art, artist list etc Not quite true. The Harmony cannot directly control a receiver (SBR) as the SBR doesn't have an infrared receiver. You would need to use something like a shadow plug-in on another SB to do it. Also to avoid confusion. If you have IR-Blaster configured on an SB2/3 then it will continue to work if you use an SBC to control the SB. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44947 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter problem connecting
It is possible that there was a problem with the SN which stopped it validating your password. For others in the future. I believe it is possible to bypass that page but you have to blank the username and password to do so, otherwise it tries validating what you entered. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45061 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with blue light
The controller needs to talk to either SC or SN otherwise it has very limited functionality. To play your own music then SC needs to be active (you could store your music on MP3Tunes and access it via SN). The blue light on the receiver means that it is active on the network but it is unable to communicate with SC (or SN if you had it switched to SN). Switching to Ad-Hoc mode wouldn't make much difference, you are better leaving everything working from the main WiFi. At a guess your server is going to sleep after a period of not being used. For Windows OS this is usually set in power settings in the control panel. Set the sleep and hibernate settings to never. Often people do want to put the server to sleep say overnight. In this case they then need to configure it to Wake On LAN (WOL) so that the receiver (or any SB) can wake it up when you want to play music. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45074 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Question about ID3 tags
Personally for Genre I prefer to set it to what I consider the music to be rather than what the original submitter did. I find it cuts down on the number of genre in the library and makes it more relevant to me. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synchronization w/ Cat 5 Audio Distribution In The Mix?
Whilst there will be a difference since the multizone bit has, possibly, an extra buffer amplifier, different amps and longer cables I really can't see it being significant unless you are very very sensitive. Where you place yourself in the soundscape will also affect delay and it is more than possible that simply by moving you will experience different delays. So basically I don't believer that it is anything to worry about. YMMV. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45111 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Importing favorites
Depending upon where you have the favorites stored they should not be affected by the update. To be sure just take a copy of the favorites folder before update. The favorites folder is specified in the server settings. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is there a way to get SB3 to pass through 24 /96 digital?
The easiest way to find out would be to just try it. Encode a file to 96KHz and play it. It is bit transparent for DTS encoding (at full volume) but I don't recall the sampling rate. So it can pass some files through un-madified. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45014 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Used to connect remotely, now I can't
Hang on a minute. I've just seen that you said that you can connect to your SC using http://dyndns:9000. Do you mean this works both inside and outside of your network? If this only works from inside your network, or doesn't work at all then the problem is with the router (trying it from inside doesn't always work, it depends on the router so don't worry about it not working from inside). If it works from outside or both then I think that the problem has been misinterpreted. Do you mean that you can't stream music, you can get to the SC web pages but can't stream? Is the player connecting but you are not getting music? If this is the case then did you install LAME, don't forget that remote streaming is MP3 and possibly bit-rate limited. If your music isn't MP3 or at the required rate it will be transcoded using LAME. (I can't recall if it is part of the package.) I wrote the above block but I'm having second thoughts about it. It is still valid but I'm not sure it is the problem. Time for a basic connectivity check. From the server can you access machines on the Internet eg ping forums.slimdevices.com you should get a response or from a web browser. If not then check that you have configured the networking correctly on your server. I'm beginning to suspect that the default route hasn't been configured (or configured correctly) especially if you are not using DHCP from the server. Performing an actual check as above is best. You can also look to see what the server thinks it should do by using the route command in a terminal window. There should be a number of lines but one which is important is the default destination. Not sure how it will be labled on your machine. Destination is usually either * or default with gateway the IP address of your router (or a name that resolves to the IP address, the name may not be one you recognise but the IP address should be correct). The interface should be correct and probably eth0. As an aside... If you are only streaming outside your network using say winamp then you don't need port 3483 forwarded it all. You only need that for SoftSqueeze. If you are exposing port 9000 I'd recommend that you enable a password on the SC web interface to stop a) someone changing your config/playing tracks at 2am. b) someone stealing your music. c) someone trying to use the open port to attack your server. I believe it has been recommended before that the preferred way of making your music accessible is to use SSL. (SoftSqueeze also has an SSL client built in.) -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Music File Format/Tagging - Newbie
Converting to Flac needn't be particularly onerous. If you are ripping from CD doing the Flac encode at that point may only add seconds to the rip process if you set up the ripper to do it for you. Transcoding already existing WAV files, I believe that a number of tools will batch up files so you could just set it going at night and come back the next morning with about 30-50 percent more disk space. Disks might be, relatively, cheap and RAID/Backups are good but the more disks you have the more complicated things become. In my opinion storing as Flac rather than WAV has advantages, tagging, size, in-built error checking, and preferred. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44988 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple Subscription Service!
willyhoops;281409 Wrote: At last the days of CD scanning are all over. It will be a great day for consumers... Can't see it myself. Certainly won't be a good day for me and I'm a consumer. If I lost the device seems like I'd have to pay for the music all over again. Its like having a CD collection and only one player it works on. If you want another CD on at the same time you have to go buy a brand new collection and another player. I'd much rather buy the CD and rip, or rather buy a FLAC/WAV download than such a service. In fact I'm not convinced this 'all you can eat' is a good idea for the music industry. Their income becomes linked to handset sales which is effectively a fixed rate. To make more profit the only variable they can play with is what it costs them to produce the tracks. Seems like more covers and less original music. Quality also doesn't matter quite so much. In fact there doesn't seem much incentive at all. Actually I can't see an economic model there at all it isn't as if a 'hot' new artist is going to see more handsets which is the only way they'd increase revenue. I think paid for tracks will be around for a long time. (Though I'm sure they would lock them to the individual player so you have to buy them multiple times if they could.) -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45000 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Wiki categories
Some thoughts on page sizes and layout. Many people that are looking for help will probably be using two browsers so that they can see what they are reading for help as well as the thing they want help on. I'd guess that they will use a browser size around about 800 pixels tall (based on a 17/19 inch screen). This will allow them to easily switch between windows and let them see a little of both. I then suggest a newspaper trick of above the fold. Try and keep the important information in the top half of the page without needing to scroll. If someone isn't quite sure what they are looking for they will decide if the page is what they are looking for very quickly based on what they see without scrolling. Think of the way you use search engines and check out the pages returned. As CeeJay said that style starting with a simple narrative leading deeper as the user gains confidence and experience is more approachable. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44957 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Wiki categories
I was thinking that if you're not sure about what you are looking for then you tend to go looking for what it is you are trying to do. So perhaps the top level should be structured around the user experience of getting a new SB installation. Of course as soon as you get past the top level you can end up in the same place as you might have done from a different top level but that is one of the good things about a Wiki. How about the following. In some ways it is the same as it is now but with different heading terms. But instead of the focus being on the items it's on how. What do I need *Squeezebox *Computers *Network *Wireless *Internet access Installing the software *SqueezeCentre *Upgrading *My Squeezebox wants a firmware upgrade Installing your SqueezeBox Adding a plug-in Using Internet services Learn more about the devices *Duet *Transporter *Classic What if it goes wrong *Basic fault finding *Wrestling with wireless *Making the library behave *I'm out I want my music! *I said this, but it said that! (Tags) What's under the covers *How it works *Developers Guides -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44957 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezecenter on Windows 2003 Server
Running it on WHS which is a 2003 core. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44915 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter setup - UNC path inconsistencies
As long as you use the d:\shares\ you should be OK. You certainly shouldn't use the other folders you might find, the ones named using all numbers. That would totally destroy the file structure. However, it is strongly suggested that you use the UNC paths. If for no other reason that abstraction. The d:\shares\ paths could change for any number of reasons in the future but the network share \\server\music would be repointed at its new location. Thus using UNC shouldn't break anything using d:\shares\music might break in the future. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44253 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Networking Assistance - SB3 and SC7
Changing the router address as you did just meant that you had to have bridging working. I don't believe that the router you mentioned is able to provide a local routing function as I described. If you were able to swap the Server Mac and your own Mac over so that the server had the wireless connection and your Mac was connected to it over ethernet sharing the wireless. With your wireless configured as it was previously then it should allow the SB3 to see the music and you to control it via a web interface from your own Mac. However, there are limitations in that config which probably won't affect you at the moment but may if you add further devices. It would be better long term if you can have both Macs wired to the router. Connecting the SB3 by wireless would be OK. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Used to connect remotely, now I can't
This might be really daft but you did check that the IP address to forward to in the router is of your new server? Changing the OS means you would have either had to re-enter it or DHCP may have assigned a new one. Ooops just realised that you mentioned you'd tried connecting using your dynamic DNS entry so that isn't it. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] UK Duet release farse
Duet is available on the UK Logitech website today. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44899 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox won't let me type in a WPA key and reboot
First thing I'd try is to factory default it. Remove power then whilst holding + on the remote (pointing it at the SB3) replace the power. Then see if that has any affect. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44898 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller
Lairdl;280476 Wrote: If it is true that the controller won't roam between APs, this could explain my configuration trouble: I have two Netgear WG-102 APs running with the same SSID on the same subnet. It was my assumption that the Duet Controller would roam between the two APs, but I am having trouble with intermittant connection between the Controller, Receiver and my server. Do I need to force connection to only one AP to keep everything happy? (Powering down when I switch APs would be tedious as their coverage overlaps...hard to know when the device would switch over) The controller is trying it's best to remain linked to the AP it is connected to up until the point at which it gives up. Then it reconnects to the one with the strongest signal. Forcing it to connect to only one may improve your experience slightly but is more likely to cause you problems with drop-outs which is presumably why you have two APs installed. If you use the controller predominently around one AP then it may be an idea to lock it to that one so that it doesn't accidentally connect to the weaker AP. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44707 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Two Independent Servers?
You can essentially have as many music servers running at the same time on your network as it will support. When you get into the network config of a slim player (either hold left arrow or re-power it) you can choose between the available players. Different versions of server may require different versions of the firmware in the squeezeplayer. The player will prompt you to get the required version (by holding brightness) that it needs. Longer term, if anyone wants to maintain multiple servers, it is probably best to have them all on the same server version. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Connection refresh
You can factory default the player by holding + whilst you plug it in. However, that won't remove your neighbour's network name. The player is scanning for all the networks that it can see as it doesn't know which is yours. It then gives you the choice to tell it which is yours. It will then go through the configuration of the network that you told it to use. As you step through the configuration screens you will most likely see the choices and information that you entered previously. Just change/overwrite with new information. (It remembers values so you don't have to enter them after re-powering the player.) The only time being able to see your neighbour's network may be a problem is if both you and they are using the same channel. This can reduce your wireless range as they would interfere with each other. To determine if they are you would need a PC with wireless and a software package such as netstumber or similar. Generally wireless networks tend to default to around channel 6. So if you are having range problems try changing yours to channel 1 or 11. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44827 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Low footprint integrated headless player required
As JJZolx has corrected the suggested command I thought I'd just add for anyone else that in general, for windows, if a filename or a directory name contains spaces then you have to place the whole string within double quotes. Otherwise the spaces look like separators between a command an its parameters. ie c:\program files\myprog.exe would like like you are trying to run c:\program with a parameter of files\myprog.exe So c:\program files\myprog.exe would be: c:\program files\myprog.exe You may also have to do this if you are trying to pass a path to another programme. eg myprog c:\all my music\musicfiles to avoid it looking like three parameters to myprog enclose the parameter in double quotes as in: myprog c:\all my music\musicfiles -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller
Fatawan;280158 Wrote: Thanks Zaragon--That sounds like an easy enough solution(after I looke dt all up :) ). I do have an ethernet port in the theater, AND in the equipment room, so I could easily do an access point plus a switch. I need more wired connections in the equipment room anyway. Glad to be of service. I thought I'd mention that a Wireless Access Point (WAP) isn't a wireless router. So you will need to be a little careful in your choice. Although physically they can be identical they have different control software. Some wireless routers can be configured to be just access points though. Unfortunately for some reason access points often seem to be a lot more expensive that wireless routers. For anyone considering multiple access points/wireless routers. The key element is the IP address. Unless you manually assign all devices with their own unique IP address then ideally only one device should be a DHCP server giving out IP addresses. If there has to be two or more DHCP servers then ensure that the addresses that they give out do not overlap each other but that they are all within the same network address range. Typical home equipment defaults to using the address range 192.168.0.X/24 or 192.168.1.x/24 (The 24 refers to a simple netmask of 255.255.255.0). This gives a maximum of 254 addresses (since you can't use .0 or .255 as these are used to broadcast to all devices on the network). Just ensure that the range of the .X doesn't overlap on any DHCP server and not fogetting the servers/router's own address. Using DHCP in general and multiple DHCP in particular means any device can change it's IP address at any time so you cannot rely upon it for security or any block/allow filters such as in SqueezeCentre. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44707 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why is SlimServer so slow?
Daniel it is probably worth you spending time un-installing all the applications that you don't use. Not just to stop any errors you may have picked up from the RAID resize. It is surprising how many applications install all those little helper things in odd places like the system tray to make it 0.25 seconds quicker to start up. Or have additional utilities like iTunes that has the device synchroniser to sync up the iPod which you don't have. All of which need time to start up and shut down and their potential to cause instability. Not to mention how the registry gets bloated. All of which shouldn't have much effect on performance unless you are overloading available real memory. It would be worth looking at the process list when SC is running slow to see if anything else is hogging the CPU or memory. One thing that just occurred to me that perhaps others with more knowledge can comment on. You get thrashing on startup if SC isn't closed down before you shut down the PC. I'd hazard a guess at that being the database doing a consistency check (I don't know mySQL.) on startup because it has found it to be in an inconsistant state. That sort of thing I'd expect if it was unexpectedly terminated or if data wasn't flushed before shutdown. Way back when the issue for external RAID arrays was always ensuring write cache data was flushed to all relevant array disks before shutting down the array, if it wasn't you got RAID resyncs on startup as the array checked itself for consistency and then DB consistency checks if the RAID didn't adjust properly. Since Windows asks apps to close and doesn't force terminate them they should all shut down cleanly and it should also be aware to flush all the disc caches. So it shouldn't be a problem. But...something is. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44457 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Configuring a Squeezebox WITHOUT a remote control
If the power is simply removed such as trying to reboot or through a power cut then the SB should startup and reconnect using it's current configuration. Provided the server hasn't changed it's IP address it should be OK. If you need to factory reset then a remote is needed. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44839 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Low footprint integrated headless player required
ModelCitizen;280295 Wrote: I followed your instructions and a service was created that called C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools\srvany.exe, not softsqueezeHeadless.exe as it should. I've corrected the path in the regsitry but the service won't start. I'm about to delete the service and try setting it up from scratch. MC I uninstalled the service, and installed it again. The dos texxt: C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\ToolsInstsrv SoftSqueeze C:\Program Files\Softsqueeze\softsqueezeHeadless.exe The service was successfuly added! -- But again the service would not start (did not respond in a timely manner as Windows put it). I changed it to run under an administrator account but no joy either. I noticed that the path in the registry had installed it without including the quote marks so added those. Still no joy. Although I haven't played with services I think there is a little confusion here. What I think you are doing here is setting up a service that when run starts softsqueeze. The Instsrv command installs a new service. That service runs the srvany.exe application. What you then need to so is to edit the registry entry for the new service that you created to point it as softsqueeze. I'm assuming that srvany.exe gets a parameter which is the path of softsqueeze when it runs on startup. Here is a link to a Microsoft Support article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/137890 which also describes what Jim mentioned. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44771 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Configuring a Squeezebox WITHOUT a remote control
hornseaey;280384 Wrote: Thanks to both of you Normally after a power off I've had to go through the right right sequence - however, all the responses were displayed for me If you just leave it at that point then it will use the previous settings and reconnect. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44839 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBR as wireless bridge?
Actually I seem to recall that the SBR can't act as a wireless bridge at the moment. It can act as a limited wireless AP for the controller only if the SBR is wired. Something they are thinking about adding later I believe. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44846 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBR as wireless bridge?
I think I agree with you this time. By Ad-hoc on the SBR I meant the mode where the controller is able to use it to talk to SC but nothing else can. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44846 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problems Keeping SBC Connected via wireless
Since you say that setting up the SBR in bridge mode (I assume you mean ad-hoc) with the controller accessing the network via the SBR and it works without a problem, then this, to my mind, points the issue at your wireless router. If you really do mean bridge mode, the SBR is accessing the network via wireless and your controller never drops out then it kind of still points to the wireless router. What may be happening is that if a device is only infrequently accessing an access point then the access point can turn down the transmit power. With the SBR in ad-hoc mode the SBC isn't accessing the router so no problems. With the SBR bridging it will keep the router AP active with power levels high. Of course it may have nothing to do with it. May be worth looking for any options in the router config for power saving or similar. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44794 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter issues
This may need some clarification of what you are trying to do. If I can paraphrase let me see if I have this correct. You had a version prior to SC7 installed and working OK. You installed SC7 and using your SB remote connected the SB to the SqueezeNETWORK ie not your local server. You can play internet streaming by using the SB remote or a browser connected to the SqueezeNETWORK. If you direct your browser at the local SC you don't see the SB listed in the player list. Is this correct? If so, with the SB connected to SqueezeNetwork it isn't connected to the local SC so it won't be seen by the local SC in a browser window. Use the SB remote to change the SB back to local SqueezeCentre. If you correctly entered your SqueezeNetwork identity in your local SqueezeCentre then on the player selection dropdown it should list your player as connected to SqueezeCenter, selecting it send a message to SqueezeNetwork to tell your player to reconnect to the SqueezeCentre. If you don't see that then there may be a problem with your SqueezeCentre accessing SqueezeNetwork. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44848 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Networking Assistance - SB3 and SC7
If I have this right you have a router which connects to a Mac over wifi. From the back of this Mac you have an ethernet connection which you have connected to the server Mac. The SB3 is connected by ethernet to the router. The subnet mask value is important here. I am going to assume that it is 255.255.255.0 as this is most likely the default with the addresses you have given. To make this work will require a couple of things. But first a question. Can the server Mac communicate with the ethernet? If it can then I am going to presume that the non server Mac has had routing configured on it (in Windows terms it might be called Internet connection sharing). In this case it would be necessary to tell the router that network 192.168.10.0 is available via 192.168.1.3 Unfortunately not many home type routers have this capability. Even then it may not work as I believe that the SB3 uses a broadcast to find the server and this won't pass between networks. An alternative would be to reconfigure the non server Mac from being a router to being a bridge. Subnet mask again comes into this but assuming you keep it at 255.255.255.0 then give the ethernet port on the non server Mac and the ethernet port on the server Mac an IP address in the 192.168.1.x range. Not one that is already in use and not one that is within the DHCP range of the router. With bridging configured this should work. This isn't an easy configuration and relies on the non server Mac being on all the time. It might be simpler to reverse the roles of the two Macs if you can. Instead of moving the Macs can you move the router and it's internet connection? Unfortunately I can't help you with OS X commands as I've never used it and it is years since I did it on Unix. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problems Keeping SBC Connected via wireless
I understand what you mean. However, when you were using the Ad-hoc mode (what you called bridging) the SBR is providing the wireless interface that the SBC is connecting to. In this mode the SBR is also using less wireless power than it would do communicating with a access point. I believe you said that this worked perfectly with no problems. Only when you caused the SBC to use the access point did you have problems. Even in the same room. That is what is puzzling me. A lower power connection works OK but a normal one doesn't. If I were to rule any part of the wireless out that would be why I rule out the SBC. Having said that it could also be some incompatability in settings or interference or a fault and I've seen too many problems where something works perfectly connected one way but fails completely when connected another even when there is no material difference. I'd suggest at this point getting in touch with support then if there is a chance it is the SBC faulty they can sort out replacements. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44794 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter issues
I can't comment on upgrade for OS X since mine is on Windows and that went fine. Ok how about some basic faulting to start with. The SB would appear to have an IP address and able to communicate with the Internet since you have had it talking to the SqueezeNetwork. It has gone blank when trying to connect to your server which as you know means it can't communicate with it. Have you tried to ping the SB address from the OS X machine. It should work. If not then there is a network or firewall issue. If it does work then there is a configuration problem with SC or something is blocking the ports it wants to use. As you say you have no firewall or antivirus then this would point to SC not being correctly configured. In which case I'd suggest you completely un-install it (keep a copy of the server preferences if you have a complicated setup) and then reinstall it. If it then works you can re-enter the preferences. The only SC settings I can think would get in the way would be the Webserver port in Network settings and entries in the security settings such as allowed IP addresses if you are blocking. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44848 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wiki migration help
I don't mind helping out. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44765 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller
I'm assuming that your Transporter is wired to the network. In which case a simple answer is to just get hold of a ethernet switch and wireless access point and site them with the Transporter. If you use the same wireless set-up SSID, encryption and keys as your main wireless then the controller would just attach to which ever AP is strongest. Note that the controller doesn't roam between APs but even a simple power down and up again would be enough to get it to switch if you take it upstairs and downstairs. You'd also have the advantage of being able to use a laptop down there as well. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44707 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Newbie said I dont Get it... is JIve...
At least for the moment. The infra-red LED is there and it can be used to emulate a standard Squeezebox remote. All it takes is a plug-in. If someone were to do it though (along the lines of the IR-Blaster) it would probably be of only limited functionallity not least because the SC doesn't have too many buttons. I wouldn't recommend getting it though if you were only thinking of it as a possible future universal remote. If you want it for its other features and possible future remote use is icing then go ahead... -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44802 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Completely stuck after 7.0 upgrade
It may not be relevant but I just had some similar and funny effects after I installed SC7 on a new PC that I had configured with Windows Home Server. After some messing around it came down to the internet settings on IE7 that was running on the server. It wouldn't run javascript. Initially I was getting page not loading errors before I started getting SC warning pages. What was apparent is that IE7 internet settings consider 127.0.0.1:9000 SqueezeCentre:9000 and SqueezeCentre.mynetwork.com:9000 as three different sites so needed trust setting up or zones security relaxing. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBC not observing daylight savings time
I don't yet have an SBC but I did notice on another thread that the SBC gets it's time from the SqueezeNetwork rather than locally and the advice there was to log into SN and make sure that your region was set correctly. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44462 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBC not observing daylight savings time
Just seen a message on one of the developer threads that the SBC normally runs from it's own clock and only synchronises when it first connects to the SC. (Which restarting it would do.) There is a bug/enhancement request to get it to resync periodically. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44462 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No Sound
I'd suggest checking that you don't have the volume turned down. Check that the pre-amp attenuation isn't set in the audio tab for the player in SC. If it still isn't fixed then firstly try pulling the power on the SB, holding + while plugging it back in and if that fails try a factory reset (Can't recall the button for that but a search should find it.) Edit: Didn't see the above post. Looks like + is the factory reset and 1 is the Xilinx reset. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeCentre chose player drop down
Michael I created the bug 7457 but couldn't work out how to assign it to you as it seemed to suggest I needed to put in your email address which I don't know. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44355 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Softsqueeze Version
I thought the same but it did actually come up for me. However, I haven't tested out quite why yet. Once I got the orange Java panel I thing clicked and double clicked the panel. About a couple of minutes later the softsqueeze display does come up. On my machine though it is a very flaky connection the display keeps saying problem and then going back to Now Playing. Looking at the Java console shows it has lost contact with the SC. I can't get it to do anything. Pressing play on something in the web SC display for the player has it start working properly. I now have full control from the applet. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44244 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] dumb question?
You don't need to install SC on a machine to install Softsqueeze. With the browser on the machine you want Softsqueeze just navigate to the server http://your-server:9000/ as normal then scroll down the Home menu to Extras. In Extras you have Softsqueeze there you can install Softsqueeze. You can also load SoftSqueeze up into a browser window as an applet without having to install it at all. Though I suspect this is even harder to sync than installing SoftSqueeze directly. I'm not sure if any given player can be told to sync with another player that is currently playing because I can't remember which way around it works. I believe that there was a plug in for 6.5 that would do that and enable it to be done from the player. (Though if you were using the MP3 streaming, if it could piggyback the stream it would have to be initiated from the web interface.) -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44423 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SqueezeCentre chose player drop down
Having just installed SC7 this evening I have just noticed something about this drop down. The drop down normally shows the current player. I had it set to a Softsqueeze player which I then shut down. After a while the display changed removing the player from the list. This results in the box reducing in size. If I now change it to another player the box doesn't resize itself. I've uploaded a couple of pictures to illustrate. Anyone else noticed this, if so is it a feature or should I log a bug? This is on IE7. +---+ |Filename: small-drop-down2.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4510| +---+ -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44355 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't connect SB to SC
Have you tried a simple ping or tracert from the PC to the SB? In situations where two wireless devices won't talk to each other but otherwise talk to the internet successfully I tend to first think that the wireless AP has an isolation feature turned on. Various manufacturers call it different terms but essentially it stops one wireless device seeing any other wireless device attached to the AP. It is supposed to be a form of security. There is usually an option to turn it off. If this is the case then quite why it occaisionally works for a short period I'm not sure. Trying with one of the connections hard wired would help isolate the problem. I also recall another poster with a similar problem recently so I'd suggest a forum search as I remember he solved the problem. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44259 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
