Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
I keep meaning to write to Rogue Amoeba and suggest that they consider developing their 'Airfoil' (http://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/) product into a music player system that could serve as a Squeezebox replacement - they've got the streaming-audio-over-the-network bit, how hard would it be to integrate that with a headless music player capable of playing different streams to different destinations plus a remote control app for iOS and Android? (he asked rhetorically). Normal people can use any Airplay hardware and geeky types can use anything that can run Shairplay. They'd want to charge some money for it, but I'd certainly be prepared to pay if it was done right. Are there any developers reading this who can imagine any mileage in this idea? nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans
I don't know about hardware players because I don't have any, but I've installed LMS 7.7.2 without needing to have a mysqueezebox login (I don't have one of those either). nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96606 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Register spare Touch?
And what's more, I now have a name for my accordion death metal band. ;) nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96897 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moving on...
Crowborough is well known for being a Marilyn, defined as a high point with at least 500 feet (approx 150 m) of descent on all sides. There aren't many of them in East Sussex! For maps on iOS, it's worth taking a look at the 'UK Map' app, which lets you download the freely released OS maps at 1:50k and 1:25k scales, as much as you can fit on your phone. These maps don't have quite as much detail as the proper Landranger and Explorer maps but you can't fault the value for money. nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96877 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
bigbossman wrote: Actually, if you have iTunes open (PC or Mac) and home sharing on you should be able to stream your entire library via Airplay using your iPod Touch (go to 'more' in your iPods menu and select 'shared' - any libraries that are home share enabled will show up here). Just don't expect sound quality to match that of the SB Touch, or any SB IMHO. If you're playing the music from your home library on the iPod Touch itself, via Home Sharing, that's not using Airplay. If you're sending the audio from the iPod Touch to a receiving device like an Airport Express, Apple TV, or third-party AirPlay receiver, that's using Airplay. The audio you're sending could be from files stored on the iPod itself or from files stored on the computer and accessed using Home Sharing. But in the latter case you could also play the files in iTunes on the computer itself, under the control of Apple Remote on the iPod, and send the audio from iTunes to your receiver via AirPlay. (At least you can for a Mac, I still don't know if this is available on PC's.) If you're playing music on the iPod through a dock that takes the digital audio from the iPod then the sound quality should be however good the DAC etc in the dock is, subject to the 'limitation' of 16 bit / 44.1 kHz. Similarly the quality from an AirPlay receiver should be whatever its DAC and output circuitry provides, given a lossless source file. nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
banned for life wrote: The question was about using my music remotely. Is the Apple TV hardware locked to your location (or your Apple Account?) It's a question of whether the device allows playback from any location. As far as I know the Apple TV can play back your music collection anywhere you like (assuming power, Internet and a display) but this is using iTunes Match, not Airplay. So (a) you'd need to subscribe to iTunes Match, and (b) playback would be at 256 kbps AAC (I think), no matter what format or quality your source files back at home were. And because it's not Airplay I think you would need a display in order to operate the Apple TV. nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
banned for life wrote: Can I take an airplay device (Apple TV?) to other places and access all my music at another place and using an internet connection and without playing from the iCloud? If I read this correctly... no. The nearest Apple solution to what I think you're asking is iTunes Match. Dave, doesn't iTunes on Windows do AirPlay then? nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available? - Yes , if less than $100 - Yes, if less than $200 - Yes, if less than $500 - Yes, if less than $1000 - Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound - No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player I was close to buying one or two Squeezebox Touch-es when the announcement came out, but instead of locking myself in to the Squeezebox hardware I've instead picked up an iPod touch, which I'll use with iPeng in a mini-hifi-with-dock in the kitchen, and resurrected my old G3 Powerbook on which I'll use Squeezeslave (thanks for the G3-compatible build, ralphy!) in the living room. But the Powerbook only has a headphone output socket, so I won't be getting optimum sound quality out of that - I'm no audiophile, 16/44.1 is fine for me and the hi-fi isn't anything special, but I'm guessing I might notice the difference with something better. If there was some indication of ongoing support and development on the Squeezebox/LMS ecosystem, I might be prepared to pay a Squeezebox Touch sort of price for a Squeezebox Touch sort of player. But then again, the web interface via the Powerbook is perfectly OK, so I could make do with a cheaper, headless audio receiver. Sort of like the Airport Express, in fact. Meanwhile in the kitchen, getting up to use the iPod in its dock to change tracks is OK, but if there was a small, cheap, headless audio receiver I could plug in to the hi-fi then I could pick up the iPod and just use it as a remote. Something sort of like the Airport Express, in fact. It's possible for third party software to stream to AirPlay hardware - Rogue Amoeba's Airfoil does. If I wanted to keep Squeezebox/LMS going as a home-server-based multi-room-capable audio solution then what I'd look at is how to get it to play to Airplay as well as to hardware and/or software Squeezebox players. I don't know if synchronisation would be good, or even possible, but it would at least solve the problem of Logitech no longer making the kind of hardware that some of us want. And I realise it wouldn't satisfy the audiophiles who want 24/192 or whatever the current state of the art is, but I think we've already agreed that's a niche within a niche, and if some of you are prepared to pay over $500 for it then someone in their back room ought to be able to make a living out of filling it :-) nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?
If anyone's looking at Airplay as an alternative to Squeezebox, it's also worth looking at Rogue Amoeba's 'Airfoil' (http://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/) which gives you selective control of which app(s) send audio and allows Macs, PC's, iDevices and Android devices to act as receivers, as well as AirPlay hardware devices. From my experience so far it doesn't have quite the same remote-control capability as you get with Squeezebox or with Apple Remote controlling iTunes playing to real Airplay devices - so you might need to access the computer that's sending the audio from time to time, which might be a pain if it's a headless server - but it's an option. There's also 'AirServer' (http://www.airserverapp.com), which despite being marketed as a way of using your computer as a big display for iOS games works perfectly well to turn your PC or Mac into an AirPlay audio destination. nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available? - Yes , if less than $100 - Yes, if less than $200 - Yes, if less than $500 - Yes, if less than $1000 - Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound - No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player Pascal Hibon wrote: I guess you have two options for the living room: 1.Get a second iThing with a dock and iPeng 2.Use an external DAC with a USB input such as the Audiolab M-DAC together with Squeezeplay on your laptop Yeah, those would both be options. Though I was thinking more along the lines of a USB or Firewire audio interface at £100 or less, rather than a £500+ DAC :D nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] UE Radio or . . . ?
Here's a couple of sub-£100 internet radios: http://superfi.co.uk/p-3384-q2-internet-radio.aspx quirky - maybe too quirky http://superfi.co.uk/p-3843-revo-mondo-wifi-internet-radio-streaming-media-adaptor.aspx - needs amp and speakers No personal experience with either of these. nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96695 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
garym wrote: Yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_Genome_Project Pandora uses this technology to build their playlists See also 'The Echo Nest' (http://the.echonest.com/). nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
ralphy wrote: I was way off on this one. The 32-bit ppc compiler in Xcode 3.2.6 builds for G4 powerpc macs and up by default. The 'incompatible CPU subtype' error was most likely caused by this and has nothing to do with 64-bit. I was going to say I thought the G3 was 32-bit, but I figured you knew what you were talking about! Anyway, your new build works fine on my G3 so far - thanks very much! Now to see how well it synchronises with the player in iPeng... nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
PasTim wrote: For me, one of the biggest benefits of LMS is the ability to have menus based on additional tags. Classical music without something like this can be very hard to handle, particularly if you have several versions of the same piece, and the piece is made up of several (sometimes tens of) tracks. (...) LMS with Erlands plugins comprehensively fixed this for me, although not without considerable effort in tagging my music. Ooh, this is interesting. Can you tell me briefly how you've chosen to tag your classical collection please? nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
I've downloaded Squeezeslave for Mac from https://code.google.com/p/squeezeslave/downloads/detail?name=squeezeslave-1.2-376-osx.tar.gz , which says it's a universal binary, but when I try to run it on my G3 (Pismo) Powerbook it says 'incompatible CPU subtype'. Is it possible to run Squeezeslave on a G3? nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
Thanks for the replies! I'm wedded to iTunes and ALAC (because I want to use iTunes Match) so I can't add extra tags like you can with FLAC. I'll have a look at that wiki page and compare it against the various guides to tagging classical music in iTunes I've seen. A lot of people seem to advise putting the composer in the Artist field and the artist(s) in Composer, but that just feels so... -wrong-. :P nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released
Thanks! It's on 10.4.11. nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
Well for me the question is not 'what will your next system be' but 'what will your first system be'? I had been planning on setting up a system with a couple of Squeezebox Touches, and getting a secondhand Mac Mini to run LMS on. That's after previously considering a Sonos setup but disliking the price and the lack of UI on the Sonos kit. Now I'm wondering about either: - Airport Expresses instead of the Squeezebox Touches, and one or two iPod touches with the Apple Remote app to control playback from iTunes on the Mini or - iPod touches running iPeng and sitting more-or-less permanently in docks, playing from LMS on the Mini Right now there are refurb iPod Touches on the UK Apple Store for £129, so the combo of Airport Express + iPod, or iPod + (say) Pure i20 dock, is about the same price as the Squeezebox Touch. Im not bothered about online streaming services except iPlayer, and I can do that with the app on the iPod. My music library is going to be in ALAC and I'm not worried about anything other than 16/44.1kHz files. I can see pluses and minuses to both my options above compared to the Squeezebox Touch plan, but how will they compare for synchronisation, and is the quality of the Airport Express audio out significantly worse than the Squeezebox Touch? nekomatic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
