Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread MrSinatra

andyg;355118 Wrote: 
 Not yet, but I'm working on a way for you to access local music while
 connected to SN.

andy, couldn't he do what he wants if he gets a NAS he can run SC on?

seems to me thats what infrant/netgear support officially.


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread Michael Herger
 andy, couldn't he do what he wants if he gets a NAS he can run SC on?

No need to buy a new NAS if we can get basic UPnP support working. And  
those NAS manufacturers are slow adapting our software...

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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread MrSinatra

well, the OP said they want a NAS, so i'm going by what they said.


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread Michael Herger
 well, the OP said they want a NAS, so i'm going by what they said.

Ok, ok...

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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread MrSinatra

the other point is they have 2 laptops.  is the SN/upnp going to be a
good solution for them?

meaning, will it work with their laptops and will they want them on?

i got the impression they didn't want that.

what about a NAS with a upnp media server built in but no SC?


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread autopilot

uPnP - mmm... could Any or someone explain how a NAS/laptop/PC with a
upnp server is going to work together with Squeezenetwork and your
local players? Im very intrigued.


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread Michael Herger
 uPnP - mmm... could Any or someone explain how a NAS/laptop/PC with a
 upnp server is going to work together with Squeezenetwork and your
 local players? Im very intrigued.

There's a device which is connected to your network as well as SN... your SB. 
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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread New Daddy

Thanks everyone for chiming in.
The depth of this thread is going way over my head.
I have no idea what upnp is..
Well, then again, I had no idea what NAS was until a few days ago, when
I started searching the internet.

Basically, my wife and I would like to aggregate all our music files
into one drive. I can let her transfer her music files in her laptop to
my desktop or even my laptop, but I thought it would be more convenient
if she could access the centralized storage regardless of whether my
PC/laptop is turned on or off.  Similarly, I thought it would be better
if my SB Boom could access the network-attached central storage
directly without having to negotiate through my desktop where the
SqueezeCenter currently resides.

Thanks!


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-31 Thread MrSinatra

thats why my answer to you was the best answer, i actually listened to
what you wanted.

;)

in all seriousness, there are a 1000 ways to slaughter a pig.  so it
all depends on what your exact goals are, and how you want to do it.

keep in mind, they do not have a upnp solution yet.  while i think its
probably coming soon, its hard to say when.

therefore the best solution to meet your goals as i see it, is to get a
NAS, which is great for more than just storing music btw.

some infrant/netgear NAS devices come with SC built in.  but the
drawback is SC is slow on these devices, (via webUI anyway).  however,
some other NAS devices are a lot faster, but on those you need to hack
em to some degree to get SC installed on them.

u could also setup a small desktop that would wake on lan and run SC
from there, and store all your music there as well.  this is to a
degree overkill, so it has pros and cons too.

personally, i am going to get a NAS one day, b/c i do not want a
computer on just to listen to music.  i'll probably wait until
netgear/infrant make a NAS that has a real processor in it, assuming
that ever happens.  but regardless i'm gonna wait until i see how this
upnp solution works as well.

i actually think the upnp solution (that uses SN and your SB + your
local tunes) would be very elegant with a NAS as opposed to a computer
for the local tunes.  BUT we need to see how it'll work first.  (if the
NAS has a generic media server built in, i wouldn't think its a
problem).

if you need clarifications, just ask, BUT you should google upnp and so
on.  to do this properly, you will need to educate yourself.


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[slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-30 Thread New Daddy

I'm beginning to realize that all the music files must be stored in one
folder in order for SB to access those files.
Since my wife and I both have tons of music files on our separate
notebooks, we are thinking of setting up what other people are
describing as a NAS (network-attached storage) where we will store all
our music files.

In this regard,
1. Can SB access an NAS even when my PC is turned off (i.e., even when
no SqueezeCenter is running)?  
2. (This is probably appropriate for some other forum, but) Can anyone
recommend a decent NAS kit? We wouldn't need a mission-critical NAS,
since all we will need the NAS for is to store our music files.

Thanks a bunch in advance.


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-30 Thread andyg

Not yet, but I'm working on a way for you to access local music while
connected to SN.


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-30 Thread WizardFusion

I currently use the original Buffalo TeraStation 1Tb box 

From (but not shown)
http://www.buffalo-technology.com/products/network-storage/terastation/

It's a 4x250Gb Disk RAID5 box giving me about 700Gb of storage
(completely full at the mo).  It's a great box that I use for streaming
movies and music to my Mac Mini attached to my TV.


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-30 Thread New Daddy

andyg;355118 Wrote: 
 Not yet, but I'm working on a way for you to access local music while
 connected to SN.

Thanks andyg!
I'll look forward to it.


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-30 Thread autopilot

andyg;355118 Wrote: 
 Not yet, but I'm working on a way for you to access local music while
 connected to SN.

What? How on earth are you planning to do that? Please explain more :)


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-30 Thread autopilot

New Daddy;355107 Wrote: 
 
 2. (This is probably appropriate for some other forum...

Like this one?... http://forums.slimdevices.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18


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Re: [slim] Can SB access NAS without the SqueezeCenter turned on?

2008-10-30 Thread aubuti

autopilot;355134 Wrote: 
 What? How on earth are you planning to do that? Please explain more :)
The short answer is via UPnP. For the long answer you'll need Andy.


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