Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-08 Thread 325xi

tommypeters;178679 Wrote: 
 We don't mention Harmony because it's not usable for what we want. You
 can't browse album art on it, or ues the screen for any other
 presentation of SlimServer info, since it has no wi-fi capability.

Interesting, quite a few people here mentioned that most of the time
they're satisfied with the remote coming with SB...

Large screen is nice, but I remember many people complain that even
tiny LED on my amp, being a bit too bright, may present a distraction
from listening. Because of that displays on all my rig are off after
few seconds of last change. I can imagine what could be said about
constantly glowing 10 screen...


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-08 Thread tyler_durden

325xi;178842 Wrote: 
 I can imagine what could be said about constantly glowing 10 screen...

The screen is off except when I am selecting music or reading a book on
it.  The unit is battery powered so it is impractical to leave the
screen on constantly unless you want to be dragging the charger cable
along with it.

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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-08 Thread tommypeters

325xi;178842 Wrote: 
 Interesting, quite a few people here mentioned that most of the time
 they're satisfied with the remote coming with SB...
Yes, when you know what to look for the original remote is good (for
anything but mindless browsing). For anything to be significantly
better you need it to support cover art browsing (meaning wi-fi + large
enough screen).


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-07 Thread tommypeters

tyler_durden;178459 Wrote: 
 It should work, however, the screen is small so cover art and text would
 probably shrink to unacceptably small sizes.  The ST3400/3500 tablets
 have 10.4, 800x600 screens giving good size to cover art, control
 buttons (touch screen), and text.
Yes, I think a 4,5 screen is on the border of being too small to make
it useful - the sole reason the replace the original remote for me is
to be able to browse cover art. Since the resolution of the Sony Vaio
UX however is a very decent 1024*600 it depends on your eye-sight.

12 1024*768 is Great (for this usage), 10.4 800*600 is Very Good, I
believe the 7 800*600 (as the coming Arhos I reported on above) is the
minimum for being rated Good by me, the Nokia 770/800 4.1 800*480 the
limit for being Usable (meaning as good as the included remote). The
current Archos 604 Wi-Fi with 4,3 480*272 is too small for me to use
it instead of the original remote.

For the small-screen, low-resolution devices (800*600 and less), I'm
assuming a special skin like the Nokia 770 skin - otherwise it wouldn't
be Good.


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-07 Thread FLMike

Tyler, 
It really sounds as if you are doing almost exactly what I want to
achieve, but I am still having a hard time understanding how your
network is put together and exactly where the applications are being
run.  If I understand correctly from what you are saying, your music is
stored remotely (on another device) but you are utilizing the Tablet PC
to run Slimserver and to browse Internet radio/control the SB via
wireless?  How? Is the Interente radio streamed via the tablet, or via
the other server where your music is stored?   And how is the music
storage device connected to the Internet and to the SB?

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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-07 Thread tommypeters

No, he doesn't run SlimServer on the Tablet PC - he says it's just used
for control (open web browser, give the URL to the SlimServer on the
server PC, browse and add songs to the playlist, turn off tablet PC and
listen to music)


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-07 Thread FLMike

Thanks for the reply.  I think I finally get it.  Basically remote
control of SLIM Server--Everything--music, Internet connection, SLIM
Server application stays on the server, but you get the benefit of a
more robust GUI, album art, etc. without use of a remote control
application--Just browse to a URL.  I've wanted to do this for a while,
but I was not aware that you could acually run SLIM Server this way. 
Are any changes to SLIM  config necessary to allow this?  And what
would the URL be?


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-07 Thread bklaas

FLMike;178578 Wrote: 
 Thanks for the reply.  I think I finally get it.  Basically remote
 control of SLIM Server.  Everything--music, Internet connection, SLIM
 Server application-- stays on the server, but you get the benefit of a
 more robust GUI, album art, etc. without use of a remote control
 application.  Just browse to a URL.  I've wanted to do this for a
 while, but I was not aware that you could acually run SLIM Server this
 way.  Are any changes to SLIM  config necessary to allow this?  And
 what would the URL be?

find out what the IP address of your slimserver is. If you were
accessing the web UI from your slimserver PC with this:

http://localhost:9000

replace the word 'localhost' with the ip address. for example, if your
slimserver PC's IP address were 192.168.1.2, the URL for the web GUI
would be:

http://192.168.1.2:9000

anything with a web browser (desktop PC, laptop, tablet, nokia 770/800,
pepperPad, PDA, iPhone, etc.) that has network connectivity to the
slimserver PC can access the web UI. Some of those devices have
crappier web browsers than others, so your mileage may vary, but that's
another story.

cheers,
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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-07 Thread Rick B .

I'm hoping that Logitech, now that they own both Harmony Remotes ans
Slim Devices, will put out a new Harmony Remote with a big screen on it
that is fully compatible with the Squeezebox and slimserver.


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-07 Thread 325xi

I was wondering why noone mentioned Harmony? :)

Really, I'm considering getting 880 - are they that bad so noone uses
it? It has all the codes for SB, so what better compatibility can we
talk about?


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-07 Thread tommypeters

325xi;178670 Wrote: 
 I was wondering why noone mentioned Harmony? :)
 
 Really, I'm considering getting 880 - are they that bad so noone uses
 it? It has all the codes for SB, so what better compatibility can we
 talk about?
We don't mention Harmony because it's not usable for what we want. You
can't browse album art on it, or ues the screen for any other
presentation of SlimServer info, since it has no wi-fi capability.


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-07 Thread tyler_durden

FLMike;178578 Wrote: 
 Thanks for the reply.  I think I finally get it.  Basically remote
 control of SLIM Server.  Everything--music, Internet connection, SLIM
 Server application-- stays on the server, but you get the benefit of a
 more robust GUI, album art, etc. without use of a remote control
 application.  Just browse to a URL.  I've wanted to do this for a
 while, but I was not aware that you could acually run SLIM Server this
 way.  Are any changes to SLIM  config necessary to allow this?  And
 what would the URL be?

As you have now figured out, I am merely using the wireless connection
between the tablet and Slimserver to control slimserver via its own web
interface.  The ST3500 tablet is just a small PC with a wireless network
connection running a web browser.  The only thing that needs to be done
to the server is to select the touch-screen skin in the interface
page of the server settings page group.

The URL is just the URL of the machine running slimserver followed by a
:9000.

TD


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-06 Thread tommypeters

Move your old HDD to a PC, back it up, move the stuff to the new HDD and
put in your tablet PC...


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-06 Thread thepainter

I don't think it's quite that easy, but as soon as Tyler does it let us
know. I too got a Fujitsu tablet the 3400 (ebay $150). I saw someone
who skinned his bezel so I tried with a Mohogany veneer (my first try).
I then got into Netremote which controls my AV system via tcp/ip. If I
can figure out how to attach the pics I will.here goes


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-06 Thread thepainter

I should say I borrowed MOE'S netremote skin and am in the progress of
customizing it to my needs, for instance I don't have SAGETV or an LD
but I need to change those, but MOE is a Photoshop expert and changing
the buttons are a little more difficult for me, so moe if you are a
squeezebox owner and happen to see this thanks for a great skin but I
need help with the buttons :). Also I was a little vague regarding the
OS but I actually wanted to do something similar and just transfering
the OS to the HD won't do it (googled it and it was way more in depth).
Has something to do with the Digitizer and I believe the OS on it is a
special tablet version. I have or mine came with Win 2000.

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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-06 Thread FLMike

Just curious if the Tablet PC is where you are storing your library and
if it is wireless?  I've actually considered the tablet PC option--It
really is a great happy medium between a PDA and a laptop.  I like the
SB remote finemost of the time.  It really is one of the most
intutive remotes I have ever used.  But what I also want is to leave
the Slimserver PC wired, continue to use it to serve music to the SB3,
but use the tablet for browsing and control functions via wireless. 
This is especially true as Squeezenetwork becomes more rich, with more
options to browse.  Any ideas as to how to accomplish that?

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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-06 Thread thepainter

Actually I use a mac mini for my server both audio and video. The tablet
I have max's out on RAM at I believe 256 and the HD is a 4G. I have it
running wirelessly with a PCMCIA adapter. I suppose if you wanted you
could have a NAS drive with huge HD for the storage and the tablet with
the slimserver.


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-06 Thread gweempose

My friend has one of '_these_'
(http://b2b.sony.com/Solutions/subcategory/notebooks/ux-series). He
uses it to trade commodities on the floor of the Chicago Board of
Trade. Would something like this be well suited for controlling a
Squeezebox?


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-06 Thread tyler_durden

gweempose;178456 Wrote: 
 My friend has one of '_these_'
 (http://b2b.sony.com/Solutions/subcategory/notebooks/ux-series). He
 uses it to trade commodities on the floor of the Chicago Board of
 Trade. Would something like this be well suited for controlling a
 Squeezebox?

It should work, however, the screen is small so cover art and text
would probably shrink to unacceptably small sizes.  The ST3400/3500
tablets have 10.4 screens giving good size to cover art, control
buttons (touch screen), and text.  

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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-05 Thread bklaas

tyler_durden;177539 Wrote: 
 Check my Fujitsu Stylistic 3500 tablet PC set up as a remote here:
 http://mark.rehorst.com/Audio_System/index.htm
 I've been using it for a couple weeks now and it rocks!
 

Tyler-- looks really cool. How much noise does it produce?
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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-05 Thread tyler_durden

It is quieter than my wife's Sony Vaio laptop.  If there is music
playing, or if the refrigerator is running, the small noise it makes is
drowned out completely.  I am usually using it to control slimserver for
a few minutes at a time while I select music, then I put it to sleep
(unless I am reading a book on it).  In sleep mode it is completely
silent.

I will be replacing the HDD this week - going from 5.1 GB with 512k
buffer to 80GB with 8 MB buffer.  It is sort of silly to put so much
storage in that machine, but it is hard to find an HDD smaller than
about 40 GB anymore unless you get a refurb or used drive, then it
costs as much as a new, larger capacity drive.  

I'm getting a Seagate Momentus drive which is supposed to be very quiet
and very low power but also pretty fast (5 year warranty, too!).  You
can get a 60 GB 5400 rpm 2nd generation drive for $60 or pay $65 and
get 80 GB 5400 rpm 3rd generation drive.  Computer economics are
strange.  I ordered from newegg.  

It should arrive tomorrow or Wednesday, then I have to figure out how
to install the OS on it without a FDD, CDROM, or network connection on
the tablet.  I will be updating my web site with the exact procedure
once I figure it out.

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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-04 Thread tommypeters

When you know what to look for, the original remote is the best. But
when you don't, it's nice to be able to browse mindlessly among the
cover art. Seldom-played CD's are difficult to remember by name, but
when you see the cover you often either *feel* like it or don't like
it.

What's interesting is that Archos will present a new model in March,
better suited for SlimServer browsing. Wifi, 7 screen, 800*600
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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2007-02-04 Thread tyler_durden

Check my Fujitsu Stylistic 3500 tablet PC set up as a remote here:
http://mark.rehorst.com/Audio_System/index.htm
I've been using it for a couple weeks now and it rocks!

The tablet runs win2k and I use firefox to access slimserver via
wireless network card.

ST3500s go for about $200-250 on ebay.  

I did some testing and it plays video very smoothly so it will be good
to keep my son entertained during long car trips.  It is also great for
reading ebooks.

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[slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2006-12-26 Thread roll - gybe

Hey, so here what my future setup will look like when complete.

Arcam amp; squeezebox: hidden windows pc as server; laptop.  (plans for
amp/sb3 in a second room as well.)

I would really like to run the whole setup from a device that is more
handheld in nature, as opposed to the laptop.  When I get this project
done, I'll have enough gear to set up a second squeezebox in another
room.  

I would like to be able to browse slimserver with a handheld.  I can't
really see myself putting my laptop on my nightstand, and I don't want
to sit around with it on my couch all the time.  

The PSP looks like a convenient way to go.  It seems like the joystick
could be a good way to navigate.  I read some comments about how just
getting for the SB isn't a great idea.  Why is that?  I have a Pronto
at work and it really sucks for me.  I'm not a big touch-screen fan.  

Do any of the Harmony or Universal remotes allow you to browse
slimserver?  Is there a good pocket pc alternative.  

Would any of these alternatives let me carry the remote into the other
room to drive a second SB?

What else should I be asking?  

Without any feedback, I think a good setup would be a Universal mx500
for my AV setup and a PSP to browse slimserver.


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Re: [slim] Ideal remote to browse slimserver? (not nokia 770 though)

2006-12-26 Thread Jack Coates

...
PDAs suck even worse than computers, which suck pretty badly. The idea
of having to manage my remote control, put it on a charging cradle
when it's not in use, or wait for it to reload a web page fills me
with shuddering horror.

I've monkeyed around with the various options on an ipaq 4150 that I
have, trying to find some way to make the little PoS useful, but
instead it continues to gather dust on top of the bookshelf.
SlimRemote, TelCanto, Handheld skin, Nokia 770 skin, all of them made
me want to throw the little device away as soon as the oh, that's
kind of nifty feeling of getting it to work was gone.

The Squeezebox comes with a delightfully functional little remote that
is interchangeable throughout the house. For night stand use, I'd
upgrade to the lighted button remote. If you'd like something with
lots more buttons for controlling more things, the Harmony line seems
to make sense, though in my opinion the whole concept of a universal
remote is deeply flawed.

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