Re: [slim] Proposal: more lists
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 15:06:15 -0500, Marc Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a lot of existing traffic on discuss could be avoided if the 6.x release announcements were posted to announce, with reply-to set to the developers list. I think a lot of the requests for 'forums' show that theres a need for a 'consumer' list. This should be it really and the alpha and beta posts should move back to dev where they belong. I'm interested in new functionality but dont have the time or patience to mess with unreliable software. However, i am interested in plugin, ways of working (for want of a better phrase - how to stuff) and the like. Maybe just a little more policing would help - i'm a member of another list that grew a chat sister list. If posts went too off topic it got stamped on pretty quickly. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Proposal: more lists
I was going to suggest something similar. It has been said already that it is not a good idea to split discuss into many lists, because it's hard to categorise and people will post in the wrong list, or cross-post, etc. However, It appears that a lot of people on the discuss group have no interest in general audiophile discussions, music, what format is best, what WiFi router to use, how to get better signals, etc. Everyone has an interest in knowing when there's a new release, when bugs have been fixed, etc. The announce list seems to have fallen off the side of the planet - I can't remember the last post we received from that list. Perhaps announce could also be used for indicating when bugs have been fixed by new releases, indicating what release they are available in. Everyone should join that list. Then perhaps split discuss into two. support for people to chat about their problems, solutions, perhaps new bugs raised in bugzilla should be posted there for discussion, etc. Almost everyone should join that list. discuss for everything else. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Proposal: more lists
kdf wrote: ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] - discussions about audio topics, external DACs, etc. why not pick your favourite list from audiophile sites? (just beating Coates to this comment) heh :) These aren't really opinions, just playing devils advocate on a few points. As I would end up being part of any and all list (just as I am now) and they all come in to the same place. If anything does change, I just ask for warning. I'll book some vacation (read: 3-day bender) to avoid the days of shouting and griping that goes along with any change (you'd be surprised how many people get so passionate about the name of the list that appears in the subject :) -kdf good call. I say Vacation, you say Lost Weekend, let's work the whole thing out. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Proposal: more lists
Robin Bowes wrote: I'd like to propose that additional mailing lists are created to split up the traffic more, particularly on the general list. I'd also like to see the names of the lists change as indicated below. In general, I think this is a bad idea. Topics have a way of crossing finely-drawn boundaries like these, and besides most of us now have good mail-reading software that can easily organize mail by topic and thread. This makes it easy to follow the threads and topics you want while ignoring the ones you don't want. My observation is that when a list splits, one usually ends up bearing all the traffic while the others go unused. Even worse, people start cross-posting to all the lists. So nothing is really accomplished. --Phil ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Proposal: more lists
on 3/3/05 9:26 am, Robin Bowes wrote I'd like to propose that additional mailing lists are created to split up the traffic more, particularly on the general list. I'd also like to see the names of the lists change as indicated below. Sounded good to me in principle. However, after taking a closer look at the proposed categories, and looking at recent traffic, I don't think it would achieve much: I think at least 95% (by thread) of existing messages would belong on the new 'slim-technical' list. Even adding slim-hippophile wouldn't shave off enough. We could suggest that people use more tags in the subject line - eg [audiophile] for any message containing the word DAC, or written by someone who knows what it means - but realistically we all know that threads morph. I agree that this list is currently on the edge of usability because it has so much traffic - but I don't think this split, at least, will work. And I can't come up with a better proposed split. Ben Rubinstein | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cognitive Applications Ltd | Phone: +44 (0)1273-821600 http://www.cogapp.com| Fax : +44 (0)1273-728866 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Proposal: more lists
Quoting Robin Bowes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I now propose the following lists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - discussion for those using beta releases of slimserver (5.4.1, 6.0) a few attempts have been made to suggest to people that the developers list is a better place to deal with issues arising from the 6.0 alphas. The fact that there is so much traffic regarding alphas being sent to discuss likely just serves to prove that has already been stated by a couple others: people just tend to ignore the stated purpose of a list. Currently, we are (relatively) free of the list-nazi type posts that plague other lists. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - discussions about audio topics, external DACs, etc. why not pick your favourite list from audiophile sites? (just beating Coates to this comment) These aren't really opinions, just playing devils advocate on a few points. As I would end up being part of any and all list (just as I am now) and they all come in to the same place. If anything does change, I just ask for warning. I'll book some vacation (read: 3-day bender) to avoid the days of shouting and griping that goes along with any change (you'd be surprised how many people get so passionate about the name of the list that appears in the subject :) -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Proposal: more lists
Robin Bowes wrote: I now propose the following lists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - discussion for those using beta releases of slimserver (5.4.1, 6.0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - discussions about audio topics, external DACs, etc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - development of slimserver [EMAIL PROTECTED] - general discussion (catch all) I don't think it's clear to new users that a lot of the traffic on this list is about experimental features in beta versions of software. I agree with all the arguments against a list-split. However, I'd really appreciate renaming the existing lists to use the semi-standard product-list naming convention (ie: slim-discuss, slim-announce, etc, instead of just discuss, announce). I think a lot of existing traffic on discuss could be avoided if the 6.x release announcements were posted to announce, with reply-to set to the developers list. - Marc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
