[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
NigelMSB Wrote: They're £161.00 plus £10.00 postage and packing (both excluding VAT). 161 quid??!!! What planet are they on??? Try Maplins, order code L55BB. 15 quid. (They are radio (433MHz) rather than IR if that's important). -- cliveb cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
cliveb Wrote: 161 quid??!!! What planet are they on??? Try Maplins, order code L55BB. 15 quid. (They are radio (433MHz) rather than IR if that's important). For me, it needs to be IR to tie in with the IR Blaster plugin (for on-off with a SB2). An RF switch and remote would be okay but since the amplifier is just beyond the end of the bed I can always reach forward and turn it off myself. I'm looking for the geek solution - one remote and no reaching forward (something like the Farside cartoon about the perfect vine). -- NigelMSB NigelMSB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
NigelMSB Wrote: Just found this - a IR-controlled mains power socket that looks like it's for UK/240V: http://www.possum.co.uk/hc603c.htm I've emailed then to ask about UK availability and pricing, plus details of the IR protocol used. They're £161.00 plus £10.00 postage and packing (both excluding VAT). They didn't send any information on the IR protocol used but at that price I'll not bother asking again for that. The search continues... -- NigelMSB NigelMSB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
You could try a oneclick power strip - http://www.oneclickpower.co.uk/home.htm - it has one 'master' outlet which controls power to all the others, depending on whether the 'master' is on or off. So turning off (on) the squeezebox would cut (allow) power to the amp. I have one (for other purposes) and it's great. The only issue would be whether the Squeezebox draws enough juice for the oneclick to differentiate between when it's on and in standby, if you see what I mean... if you can wait a week or two til I get my SB3, I'll try it for you ;) John Lewis sell them, I think £15-20 or something. -- oktup oktup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1117 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Just found this - a IR-controlled mains power socket that looks like it's for UK/240V: http://www.possum.co.uk/hc603c.htm I've emailed then to ask about UK availability and pricing, plus details of the IR protocol used. -- NigelMSB NigelMSB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
seanadams Wrote: Note the geekport output is 3.3V, not 5. There's a chance it might still trigger a 5v solid-state relay, but don't count on it. Related to this, I'm assuming something akin to an IR Linc (see [1]) should be used to connect the output of a Squeezebox to the (the IR input of) a Xantech system (e.g. a 789-44 connecting block)with the Xantech system use of 12V ? Unless one uses an emitter on top of a receiver ? Is this the case ? Thanks, James [1]http://www.smarthome.com/8175.html -- morrison12 morrison12's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3282 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
seanadams Wrote: Note the geekport output is 3.3V, not 5. There's a chance it might still trigger a 5v solid-state relay, but don't count on it. Going back to this post, a few of the Omron G3Ns I mentioned will trigger at 4V. Awfully close...but as Sean states, no guarantees. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
fcm4711 Wrote: But right now (as of current firmware revision 28) there is no way to turn on the output permanently. A change in firmware is needed to achieve that. Felix Anyone with knowledge on the status of this? Will this be possible in future firmware? Regards Claus -- Claus-DK Claus-DK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2659 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
jhwilliams Wrote: I couldn't find a reliable component that would switch mains (240v here) from 5v. The nearest I got was a solid state device that could switch 230v/3A. Did you take a look at Omron's G3NA series? See http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T053/1395-1397.pdf Every model has a variant that can use 5V as a trigger, switched voltages are 264 VAC or more, currents are 5A all the way up to 90A. Note: for higher currents you need a heatsink. Digi-Key has a UK webfront, so it should be readily available, at least in the UK. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Mark Lanctot Wrote: Did you take a look at Omron's G3NA series? See http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T053/1395-1397.pdf Every model has a variant that can use 5V as a trigger, switched voltages are 264 VAC or more, currents are 5A all the way up to 90A. Note: for higher currents you need a heatsink. Digi-Key has a UK webfront, so it should be readily available, at least in the UK. Looks Perfect. I'm in Australia, but same principle applies :) Thanks for the link. -- jhwilliams jhwilliams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Note the geekport output is 3.3V, not 5. There's a chance it might still trigger a 5v solid-state relay, but don't count on it. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
jhwilliams Wrote: Hi Hugh - how much further did you get with this. I couldn't find a reliable component that would switch mains (240v here) from 5v. The nearest I got was a solid state device that could switch 230v/3A. The specific part I was looking at was for US mains power (120V/8A) - Sharp S102S01 - see http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Sharp/Web%20Data/s102s01.pdf The S202S01 should work just fine for 230V EU mains. At this point, though, we've determined that the speakers / amplifiers in question (the ones that would be switched) consume about 140ma continuously - whether producing sound or not. That level of consumption converts to about $6.25 (~5.20 euros) per YEAR in excess power cost. So - any solution has to be REALLY low cost to pay off in any reasonable time... Felix's idea, while pragmatic, just grates against my elegance-meter... It would certainly not be useful for a commercial solution. I just wouldn't really consider it unless it were my own hardware (which is NOT the case here). -- hhoover hhoover's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
hhoover Wrote: I have a friend who wants this or the equivalent, and I'm consulting on the design and construction. The circuit, as shown, is pretty simple, but I think it could be simpler yet, BUT I need more info. If the circuit was designed to drive an IR emitter, then it should also be able to drive an appropriate SSR (solid state relay / optoisolated) since the input to those is an LED too - 1.2V, 8ma. Hi Hugh - how much further did you get with this. I couldn't find a reliable component that would switch mains (240v here) from 5v. The nearest I got was a solid state device that could switch 230v/3A. I also considered modifying a USB Powerboard - essentially a power board that switches on when it detects a USB signal (+5v). They must be using a similar component because it was 3A also. So my current design has the 3A solid state device switching a mains relay (which can do 10A). I'll probably buy a cheap digital timer switch and modify that for the 10A portion. Anyone else experimenting with this design? p.s. Thanks for the clever idea Felix! -- jhwilliams jhwilliams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Hi Hugh You could open up your SB and add the circuit inside so you wouldn't need an additional power supply. Or at least get power from inside your SB. Felix -- fcm4711 fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
fcm4711 Wrote: You could open up your SB and add the circuit inside so you wouldn't need an additional power supply. Or at least get power from inside your SB. Felix Fair suggestion, but I really hesitate to do this (Hugh's a friend and is looking at this for me). First, I have several Squeezeboxes, and would like to be able to use any unit anywhere. (Only some require this; those that are hooked up directly to A/V systems don't need this.) Second, this would almost certainly void any warentee from Slim Devices. They may not necessarily mind having folks open things up to check seating, perhaps swap a display. But modify the circuitry? Hard to imagine continuing hardware support in that situation ... What I'd really like is some sort of dry contact type closure. If the unit is on, allow me to sense that via continuity across two pins. If the unit is off, continuity is lost. If I had that, I could use a standard Power Controller (relay based power), and be done with it. No circuitry required beyond what I've already got (commercially available). -- Jeff Jeff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
fcm4711 Wrote: Hi Hugh The output should be strong enough to do that. There is an internal resistance of about 50R (from the analog switch HC4066) but that should not impose a problem. I also do not see a problem having the output turned on all the time while SB is on. But right now (as of current firmware revision 28) there is no way to turn on the output permanently. A change in firmware is needed to achieve that. Felix Thanks for the info! The firmware change is a bummer... Hopefully that will get done, eventually. There's a pretty big difference in parts count and complexity between the circuit shown at gwendesign(dot)com (which requires a small regulated power supply in addition) and just using a solid-state relay. -- hhoover hhoover's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Hi Hugh The output should be strong enough to do that. There is an internal resistance of about 50R (from the analog switch HC4066) but that should not impose a problem. I also do not see a problem having the output turned on all the time while SB is on. But right now (as of current firmware revision 28) there is no way to turn on the output permanently. A change in firmware is needed to achieve that. Felix -- fcm4711 fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
fcm4711 Wrote: Hi all I found a way to switch an amplifier on and off without needing to decode the ir signal. :) Check it out here: www(dot)gwendesign(dot)com/slimserver/dev_hard_and_software.htm#ampswitch Technical background: The plugin switches between audio and blaster mode causing the right output of the headphone jack to be either low or floating. That can be used to drive a transistor which in turn drives a relay. Cheers Felix I have a friend who wants this or the equivalent, and I'm consulting on the design and construction. The circuit, as shown, is pretty simple, but I think it could be simpler yet, BUT I need more info. If the circuit was designed to drive an IR emitter, then it should also be able to drive an appropriate SSR (solid state relay / optoisolated) since the input to those is an LED too - 1.2V, 8ma. However - I don't know, and can't find any information about what the load limit is for the driver. Would such a load be a problem since it would be on full-time while the squeezebox outputs are on? An IR output is MUCH more intermittent. There would also likely need to be a change in the IRBlaster software to drive a full-time ON state, rather than just enabling the ground-sink. TIA Hugh -- hhoover hhoover's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Hi all I found a way to switch an amplifier on and off without needing to decode the ir signal. :) Check it out here: www(dot)gwendesign(dot)com/slimserver/dev_hard_and_software.htm#ampswitch Technical background: The plugin switches between audio and blaster mode causing the right output of the headphone jack to be either low or floating. That can be used to drive a transistor which in turn drives a relay. Cheers Felix -- fcm4711 fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
fcm4711 Wrote: Hi all I found a way to switch an amplifier on and off without needing to decode the ir signal. :) Check it out here: www(dot)gwendesign(dot)com/slimserver/dev_hard_and_software.htm#ampswitch Technical background: The plugin switches between audio and blaster mode causing the right output of the headphone jack to be either low or floating. That can be used to drive a transistor which in turn drives a relay. Cheers Felix Hi Felix, thats good news! Will try to get someone to build that for me :-) One question , is it possible to build some circuit to accept inputs from two sources (lets say SB3 and a regular preamp) and output to the same amplifier, without hurting the other source device when you are using one of the sources? (ie, no current is allowed to go into SB3 when using the preamp as source) Thanks! Néstor -- Néstor Whole album Flac files -- Squeezebox (3) -- direct to Outlaw 7100 amp using Slimserver Preamp Vol Control -- Monitor Audio S6i Néstor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
I replied earlier about an RF controlled switch that would turn the power on and off. There wasn't much on the device itself (including a manufacturer name). However, I saw another one at Home Depot the last time I was there. It's made by a company called Commercial Electric and had product number 202-620 on it. Kevin fcm4711 Wrote: Hi all I found a way to switch an amplifier on and off without needing to decode the ir signal. :) Check it out here: www(dot)gwendesign(dot)com/slimserver/dev_hard_and_software.htm#ampswitch Technical background: The plugin switches between audio and blaster mode causing the right output of the headphone jack to be either low or floating. That can be used to drive a transistor which in turn drives a relay. Cheers Felix Hi Felix, thats good news! Will try to get someone to build that for me :-) One question , is it possible to build some circuit to accept inputs from two sources (lets say SB3 and a regular preamp) and output to the same amplifier, without hurting the other source device when you are using one of the sources? (ie, no current is allowed to go into SB3 when using the preamp as source) Thanks! NÈstor -- NÈstor Whole album Flac files -- Squeezebox (3) -- direct to Outlaw 7100 amp using Slimserver Preamp Vol Control -- Monitor Audio S6i NÈstor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss -- Kevin O. Lepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
fcm4711 Wrote: Hi all I found a way to switch an amplifier on and off without needing to decode the ir signal. :) Check it out here: www(dot)gwendesign(dot)com/slimserver/dev_hard_and_software.htm#ampswitch Technical background: The plugin switches between audio and blaster mode causing the right output of the headphone jack to be either low or floating. That can be used to drive a transistor which in turn drives a relay. Cheers Felix Nice!!! Felix why do you spam-proof your URLs? -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
seanadams Wrote: Nice!!!Thanks! :) seanadams Wrote: Felix why do you spam-proof your URLs?Just a habit. This way I am hoping to prevent some spam. Felix -- fcm4711 fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Thanks Dean. Glad to hear you're not Sean - that would just be weird. ;-) Max dean Wrote: I'm not Sean, but I do have answer from him. The IR blaster dongles are just infrared LEDs at the end of a long cable and are available from a number of sources, including us: https://secure.slimdevices.com/order/upgrades.cgi The output is from a CMOS driver going through CMOS switch and so it has a bit of inherent resistance and is current limited and will drive the LED directly, but will also work as a logic level output. -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye max.spicer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
I'd love to buy my IR blaster from Slim Devices, but UPS Ground is $11.17 to Connecticut (the Blaster costs $7.00). Could this be a mistake in the shipping calculation? How about throwing it into a USPS Priority Mail envelope and shipping it for a few bucks so I can remain loyal to the cause? -- Duman Duman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=809 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Hi there I doubt the IR emitter I am using consists of more than the cable and the IR LED. So, yes, the output is designed to drive an IR LED directly. But again, Sean knows for sure. Felix BTW: I've written down some information about IR Blaster here: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?IRBlaster -- fcm4711 fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Sean, are you reading this and keeping quiet or not reading this? Any ideas on how I could get Sean's attention without at the same time bugging him? Max fcm4711 Wrote: Hi there I doubt the IR emitter I am using consists of more than the cable and the IR LED. So, yes, the output is designed to drive an IR LED directly. But again, Sean knows for sure. Felix BTW: I've written down some information about IR Blaster here: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?IRBlaster -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye max.spicer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Hi there, I've just about sorted Max's PSU, and will post schematics when it's done. Two final questions: 1) What's the pinout of the headphone jack in IR blaster mode? Is power available there? 2) Does the squeezebox transmit true ITT, with a start pulse, end pulse and 300uS lead-in/lead-out waits? (see http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbp/knowledge/ir/itt.htm.) I'm expecting the answer 'yes' because the squeezebox seems to do most other things right :-) Thanks Andy -- cooperised cooperised's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Hi Andy cooperised Wrote: 1) What's the pinout of the headphone jack in IR blaster mode? Is power available there? If you look at a regular stereo-jack the tip (left channel) is IR Blaster out, the next ring (right channel) is unused and GND follows. ASAIK there is no power, but Sean can give you a definitv answer on this. cooperised Wrote: 2) Does the squeezebox transmit true ITT, with a start pulse, end pulse and 300uS lead-in/lead-out waits? (see http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbp/knowledge/ir/itt.htm.) I'm expecting the answer 'yes' because the squeezebox seems to do most other things right :-) The answer is 'yes'. Actually it's dependent of the conf file. Firmware only takes high/low pairs of times and turns the output on and off accordingly. The format (header,code,trail,footer etc.) are put together in the plugin. So if you define a 'header', 'trail' and 'footer' in the conf file you get true ITT. Felix -- fcm4711 fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Hi Chris, I had a look at the pronto ccf file as I hoped it would give me the on- and offtimes needed to put together a lirc.org file, but unfortunately it's in pronto's internal format and not man readable. Felix lostboy Wrote: There is a pronto ccf for the velleman IR codes from remotecentral.com, but I don't know how you could put these codes into the plugin. Chris -- fcm4711 fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Thanks Felix, I had a good search for CCF to LIRC conversion/translation etc., but haven't found anyone claiming to have found a way to do this. If ever you need the info in the future there is a good explanation of the pronto CCF hex format here http://www.remotecentral.com/features/irdisp1.htm - but please don't spend any more of your time on the velleman diversion as I don't think we've any willing guinea pigs yet. However, if you're thinking of developing the IR plugin to load CCF codes as well as LIRC then of course I wouldn't stand in your way :-) Many thanks for the plugin - I'm looking forward to using it when I get some more SBs. Chris -- lostboy lostboy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=125 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
lostboy Wrote: This follows up on abdomen's suggestion that a basic IR controlled mains switch would be the simplest way of doing this - at least for those of us who are not gifted with either the time or the skills to go cooperised's route (and sadly I have neither). After a little searching I found a velleman project kit (some simple assembly required!) which offers an IR controlled 240V 5A relay. It is the K6713 available from CPC in the UK for £20 here http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/partDetail.jsp?SKU=HK00755N=411 (you may have to click on this link twice to get the right page) and info here http://www.velleman.be/common/product.Aspx?lan=1id=9356 . The next problem would be how to get the right IR code output from the IR blaster. There is a pronto ccf for the velleman IR codes from remotecentral.com, but I don't know how you could put these codes into the plugin. Chris Thanks for the research. I am in the U.S., but at least I now know such a product is out there. -- abdomen abdomen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Try www.vellemanusa.com - and the same part no. Chris -- lostboy lostboy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=125 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
This follows up on abdomen's suggestion that a basic IR controlled mains switch would be the simplest way of doing this - at least for those of us who are not gifted with either the time or the skills to go cooperised's route (and sadly I have neither). After a little searching I found a velleman project kit (some simple assembly required!) which offers an IR controlled 240V 5A relay. It is the K6713 available from CPC in the UK for £20 here http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/partDetail.jsp?SKU=HK00755N=411 (you may have to click on this link twice to get the right page) and info here http://www.velleman.be/common/product.Aspx?lan=1id=9356 . The next problem would be how to get the right IR code output from the IR blaster. There is a pronto ccf for the velleman IR codes from remotecentral.com, but I don't know how you could put these codes into the plugin. Chris -- lostboy lostboy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=125 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
fcm4711 Wrote: Hi Andy But there is a mode for remotes that do not use a carrier. The format is called ITT and consists of 20uS hightime and multiple of 20uS lowtime. To tell the firmware to send such an ITT impuls the hightime needs to be set to 1 and the lowtime can be set as needed. The result is a 20uS hightime (fixed) and the specified amount of lowtime. So it would be possible to send two different patterns for 'power on' and 'power off'. Thanks Felix. So how much does the firmware care about sticking to the ITT standard? Could I write something like Code: begin remote name ampswitch bits 8 flagsITT one 10 0 zero 0 10 begin codes power_on 0x55 power_off 0x88 end codes end remote to send straight binary? Assuming 10-bit codes are ok, this could even be extended to add start/stop bits and send RS232-compatible codes. Would it work? Andy -- cooperised cooperised's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Hi Andy Unfortunately not. The IR code in the firmware is implemented as a ring buffer of 50 32bit values. Each consisting of 16bit for high- and 16bit for lowtime. There is a 'process' checking this ringbuffer and sending out the IR bits (32bit values) accordingly. Each IR bit is sent in one of three modes: high-low w/ carrier, low-high w/ carrier or high-low w/o carrier. The modes are triggered like this: high-low w/o carrier (ITT): hightime = 1, lowtime = variable low-high w/ carrier (RC5): hightime = variable, lowtime = 0 high-low w/ carrier (NEC): hightime != 1, lowtime != 0 So for ITT mode the hightime always needs to be set to one. The firmware then set the IR Blaster output to high for about 20uS followed by the lowtime where the output is set low. Felix -- fcm4711 fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Hi, I'm the friend of Max's who'll be building the PSU for his new amp. I thought I'd post my thoughts so far, having read through the options. Ideally, of course, the amp power should cycle with the squeezebox power, instantly and transparently - just as if the squeezebox contained a power amp of its own. Solutions involving another remote, or even an unused button on the SB remote, just don't satisfy my sense of neatness I'm afraid. ;-) The X10 route, though neat, is expensive; it's also overkill for such a simple application IMHO. In the absence of a geekport, I think I'll end up going down the IR blaster route, with different codes for switch on and switch off - I don't mind doing a bit of decoding, for example on a cheap PIC (the 6-pin 10F200 is 55 pence here in the UK). Can anyone tell me more about the IR blaster? How easy is it to send custom codes at custom baudrates? And how much of its functionality is in firmware? For example, it would be useful to disable the 38KHz carrier, since I'll probably just hardwire the IR blaster output into the PSU. Is this possible? For anyone who's interested, I'll be using an optoisolator and a triac to switch the mains supply to the PSU (it's a cheap, small and silent solution). The same trick would work for any mains-powered device, so I'll try to make the schematics available once it's built. Thanks in advance for your help. Andy -- cooperised cooperised's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Hi Andy Can anyone tell me more about the IR blaster? How easy is it to send custom codes at custom baudrates? And how much of its functionality is in firmware? For example, it would be useful to disable the 38KHz carrier, since I'll probably just hardwire the IR blaster output into the PSU. Is this possible? IR Blaster works like this: For each bit in an IR command the plugin sends a high/low time value (in microseconds/modulation) which tell the firmware to send for hightime and wait for lowtime. The firmware also applies the carrier during the hightime. But there is a mode for remotes that do not use a carrier. The format is called ITT and consists of 20uS hightime and multiple of 20uS lowtime. To tell the firmware to send such an ITT impuls the hightime needs to be set to 1 and the lowtime can be set as needed. The result is a 20uS hightime (fixed) and the specified amount of lowtime. So it would be possible to send two different patterns for 'power on' and 'power off'. Power On: hightime(20uS), lowtime(10*20uS), hightime(20uS), lowtime(10*20uS) Power Off: hightime(20uS), lowtime(20*20uS), hightime(20uS), lowtime(20*20uS) Code: begin remote name ampswitch bits 2 flagsITT one 1 10 zero 1 20 begin codes power_on 0x03 power_off 0x00 end codes end remote Felix -- fcm4711 fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Hi all Here is an idea to (mis-)use IR blaster output to trigger a relay. One could code a plugin sending out an IR signal constantly while SB2/3 is turned on. A little logic (timer) hooked up to the IR blaster output detects the signal and turns the relay on for a couple of seconds. If more IR signals arrive within time the relay stays on. As soon as the SB2/3 is turned off no more IR signals are sent and thus the relay turns off some seconds later. Felix -- fcm4711 fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Can't I just turn on on the first signal that I receive and off on the 2nd (and so on)? The plugin would then just send a signal on power state changes. Are there any details on the outputs from the headphone jack in this mode? Max fcm4711 Wrote: Hi all Here is an idea to (mis-)use IR blaster output to trigger a relay. One could code a plugin sending out an IR signal constantly while SB2/3 is turned on. A little logic (timer) hooked up to the IR blaster output detects the signal and turns the relay on for a couple of seconds. If more IR signals arrive within time the relay stays on. As soon as the SB2/3 is turned off no more IR signals are sent and thus the relay turns off some seconds later. Felix -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye max.spicer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Hi Max This should be possible with a 'special' IR file that only consists of one 'on' and 'one' off time (i.e. one bit). However the signal is always modulated with about 38kHz which means on the output you get a couple of pulses. The other problem you get with this approach is that SB and amp can get out of sync since you don't know if it's a 'power on' or a 'power off' IR signal unless you also decode the signal. Felix -- fcm4711 fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
max.spicer Wrote: Sadly this is way beyond my budget. The power supply is designed to be a cheap alternative to a cheap plug in to the wall device i.e. around £20-£30. I too was eagerly waiting for the geekport to enable me to toggle power to my power amps, but gave up waiting. In the end, I lashed up a solution using a configurable IR detector. (Taught it to respond to the SLEEP button on the SB remote - which I wasn't using and seemed appropriate for the purpose). You're in the UK, right? So am I, and the simplest configurable IR device I could find was a lampholder (which can be disassembled quite easily with careful use of a craft knife). Maplin have them at £9.99, order code L17BB. Of course, being designed for a lamp, you can't use it as the direct feed for power amps - it's not rated for a high enough current. So you have to use the output of the IR detector to control a power relay. Maplin do a suitable one for £4.99, order code N24AW. -- cliveb cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
cliveb Wrote: In the end, I lashed up a solution using a configurable IR detector. (Taught it to respond to the SLEEP button on the SB remote - which I wasn't using and seemed appropriate for the purpose). I've been half-looking for something like this but off-the-shelf (not really a DIY man). Like an IR version of a 240V mains timer switch. Ideally it'd take discreet on/off IR codes (rather than toggle) via the IR blasting support in SB2s. Of course, 5V from the geekport would be even better (less to go wrong, etc.). -- NigelMSB NigelMSB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
I have earlier looked for a remote power off to my hidden amplifier. I think the simplest solution would be to turn off the digital outputs when SB is turned off. It is a very simple task to build a circuit that detects when the digital outputs are disabled. My recomendation is to vote for this bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1397 -- gonk Does this unit have a bad motivator? gonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1271 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
NigelMSB Wrote: I've been half-looking for something like this but off-the-shelf (not really a DIY man). Like an IR version of a 240V mains timer switch. Ideally it'd take discreet on/off IR codes (rather than toggle) via the IR blasting support in SB2s. Of course, 5V from the geekport would be even better (less to go wrong, etc.). You can get remote controlled 13A sockets in various packages from Maplin (order codes L53BB, L55BB, L95AR, etc). They are radio rather than IR controlled, though, and the handsets look pretty clunky. But if you want something that'll work out of the box, they do the job. I agree that a geekport signal is the neatest solution. How about it, Slim Devices? Any progress on the SB2/3 geekport? -- cliveb cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
A follow-up. From what I can see, there's not much out there for non-X-10, ready-made, infra-red power switches. The closest I've found is this: http://cbav.com/ac-powerswitch.htm No good (for me) since it's for the USA market. -- NigelMSB NigelMSB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
I have earlier looked for a remote power off to my hidden amplifier. I have an add-on outlet that I found at Home Depot. It plugs in to the wall and then turns the power on and off using a small RF remote. I don't use it with my stereo, though I cannot think of a good reason not to do so. Something like that might work for you. Kevin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Jeff Coffler Wrote: From: trash trash.1y5aqz (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com I would like to see this as well, except maybe something a bit more generic (i.e some simple serial communication style like plain serial port data (8 bits, no parity, 1 stop bit), or I2C, or ???) I'm not convinced that this makes a whole lotta sense. Realistically, if you're doing RS-232 output, you'll want to go to some sort of a computer (be it a special purpose computer - i.e. home automation controller, or a PC, or whatever). If you're doing this, then you mind as well just grab what you need via SlimServer's CLI, which is VERY rich. Indeed, I control my Squeezeboxes via the CLI with a very rich interface. See this: http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=62827 for a screenshot. I'm after something much simplier. I want *LOCAL* control (no computer) to turn on an amp or something. I'm not picky about what I get, as long as it's simple. If you give me an RS-232 port, that's pointless (I mind as well just supply a dry contact via my home automation system), as I'd need some sort of processor to interpret it. Lots of amps have trigger inputs to turn on. That's all I'm after here. -- Jeff This is in fact a great way of doing it. You don't need a full blown computer. Any small microcontroller will be able to handle the serial input and react in a certain way. Over here in Canada anyways, some PIC micros are less than $1 each! And they are so low power that it could probably run off the headphone jack (i.e in a stereo headphone jack, the left could be the serial signal, and the right could be constant on at max volume which, if I understand, would be around + 3 volts.) Trash -- trash trash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
kolepard Wrote: I have earlier looked for a remote power off to my hidden amplifier. I have an add-on outlet that I found at Home Depot. It plugs in to the wall and then turns the power on and off using a small RF remote. I don't use it with my stereo, though I cannot think of a good reason not to do so. Something like that might work for you. Kevin RF, not IR? In either case, I can't seem to locate the product online; could you supply a link or more terms to search on? -- abdomen abdomen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
kolepard Wrote: I have earlier looked for a remote power off to my hidden amplifier. I have an add-on outlet that I found at Home Depot. It plugs in to the wall and then turns the power on and off using a small RF remote. I don't use it with my stereo, though I cannot think of a good reason not to do so. Something like that might work for you. Kevin RF, not IR? In either case, I can't seem to locate the product online; could you supply a link or more terms to search on? Yep, RF. The only useful thing I can find on the box is Appliance Control Device Model Number RC001. The model number on the remote is TR-001. There isn't even a manufacturer listed on either piece. Sorry I can't be more specific. Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
kolepard Wrote: Yep, RF. The only useful thing I can find on the box is Appliance Control Device Model Number RC001. The model number on the remote is TR-001. There isn't even a manufacturer listed on either piece. Sorry I can't be more specific. Kevin Thanks for the helpful response! I was hoping RF had been a typo; a cheap IR-controlled power outlet could be a practical solution given the existing ir blasting capability. If anybody knows of such a thing, I for one would be interested. -- abdomen abdomen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
I would like to see this as well, except maybe something a bit more generic (i.e some simple serial communication style like plain serial port data (8 bits, no parity, 1 stop bit), or I2C, or ???) At least this way you can task the output of the geekport for what you need, rather than just burning the port for a simple on/off switch. Heck, the data out of the geekport doesn't need to be fast. Anything in the 1200-9600 baud range would be fast enough for turning on switches/led's Trash -- trash trash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
What sort of price range are you talking here? How much do the switches and transmitters cost? Max lostboy Wrote: I use the xpl support in slimserver to send messages indicating squeezebox status (on or off) to an xpl manager app on my server (same box as slimserver). This sends X10 commands through the mains to an X10 switch connected to the amp's power. All the hardware is available retail and plugs in. The xpl apps are open source and need very simple scripting to set up the signal-response behaviour required. I've found this reliable, the amp switches within a second of the SB changing state. Chris -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye max.spicer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
I use the xpl support in slimserver to send messages indicating squeezebox status (on or off) to an xpl manager app on my server (same box as slimserver). This sends X10 commands through the mains to an X10 switch connected to the amp's power. All the hardware is available retail and plugs in. The xpl apps are open source and need very simple scripting to set up the signal-response behaviour required. I've found this reliable, the amp switches within a second of the SB changing state. Chris -- lostboy lostboy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=125 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
max.spicer Wrote: What sort of price range are you talking here? How much do the switches and transmitters cost? Max Basic plugin X10 switchable outlets can be had for $10-15 (at least that's what I paid). Standalone switches (e.g. light switches) are a similar price, the computer based controllers were more like $100 last time I looked. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
Max, As a minimum you'll need a) a computer to x10 mains interface - CM12U - £45 b) a mains switch for each amp - plug device is AM12U - £18 ea prices above from www.laser.com - links to other suppliers at www.automatedhome.co.uk xpl downloads and info from www.xplproject.org.uk [including some CLID apps which you could integrate through xpl to display on your SBs, PCs and Tivos all at the same time :-)] Chris -- lostboy lostboy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=125 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17974 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
From: trash [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would like to see this as well, except maybe something a bit more generic (i.e some simple serial communication style like plain serial port data (8 bits, no parity, 1 stop bit), or I2C, or ???) I'm not convinced that this makes a whole lotta sense. Realistically, if you're doing RS-232 output, you'll want to go to some sort of a computer (be it a special purpose computer - i.e. home automation controller, or a PC, or whatever). If you're doing this, then you mind as well just grab what you need via SlimServer's CLI, which is VERY rich. Indeed, I control my Squeezeboxes via the CLI with a very rich interface. See this: http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=62827 for a screenshot. I'm after something much simplier. I want *LOCAL* control (no computer) to turn on an amp or something. I'm not picky about what I get, as long as it's simple. If you give me an RS-232 port, that's pointless (I mind as well just supply a dry contact via my home automation system), as I'd need some sort of processor to interpret it. Lots of amps have trigger inputs to turn on. That's all I'm after here. -- Jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Options for remote power on of non ir amp
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 16:20 -0800, Jeff Coffler wrote: I'm after something much simplier. I want *LOCAL* control (no computer) to turn on an amp or something. I'm not picky about what I get, as long as it's simple. If you give me an RS-232 port, that's pointless (I mind as well just supply a dry contact via my home automation system), as I'd need some sort of processor to interpret it. Lots of amps have trigger inputs to turn on. That's all I'm after here. Most of these are just 5V, very low current sensors, which control some real or solid state relay to fire up the 50 amp currents feeding the amp. Seems nearly trivial for a geekport hack. Of course, I'm a software guy, don't let me near a soldering iron. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss