[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-21 Thread Michaelwagner

call me old fashioned, but I'd rather have an SB with built-in homeplug
support. Take the same $50 they put into the wireless card and put it
into a homeplug chip instead.

Since I have to plug the SB in anyways to the power, and again to the
stereo, it's no-way-wireless, so give up on the wireless and go instead
with (or at least give me the option of) homeplug.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-21 Thread carp

My wish is a really slim Squeezebox:

- small
- (W)LAN
- synchronisable (automatically) with an already running Squeezebox
- no display

This would let me hear the same music in every room I want as I already
have a stereo in the workroom, bedroom and kitchen. I could simply
connect this little Squeezybox to any of the stereos as an additional
source of music. IMHO A display is not necessary in this case.

Of course, this could be on the lower end in price (in contrast to the
Transporter which is a great product, too, but is not geared to me).


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-20 Thread danbrew

As a relative newcomer to the SlimDevice world, I'll add my two cents...
the reason I bought the SB was to have ONE copy of my music that I could
use in my bedroom.  If I'm sitting in my computer room I'll just use the
speakers on the PC... but I wanted the option to bring the tunes to the
audio system in the bedroom.  It works just fine - perfect for me.  I
can browse all of my local music and I'm also using Rhapsody, so it's a
pretty neat solution.

I remember when SB1 came out - I recall thinking at the time how cool
it was and I thought about buying then, but didn't for some reason -
can't remember why at the moment, but seem to distantly recall it was a
technical issue of sorts that I had a beef with.  I'm glad I waited and
came back - the SB3 rocks.

Anyway, my $0.02.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-19 Thread d_anders

As of this posting, 629 views...not bad.

Hey, SlimDevices...something grabbed some attentions...I wondered
what?

Mobile, Mobile, Mobile.

P.S. Yes, this was a shameless bump.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread Paul_B

Can't see any new hardware for a few months what with the launch of the
Transporter. But then maybe we'll see:

- SB4
- SB Boombox
- Touchscreen (I wish)


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread Mark Lanctot

I don't agree with the internal storage part.  People knock SlimServer,
but it's really the reason why the Squeezebox is so flexible and
powerful.  I'd be disappointed in something whose feature set is fixed
from day 1 and that can't be customized.  Plus in terms of storage, why
not use the huge capacities offered by hard drives?  Why not use the
vast untapped computing power of most PCs?

And finally, I don't want to maintain yet another music library for a
Squeezebox portable!  All that transferring music back and forth and
regularly refreshing the internal storage card as I get sick of what's
on it will get old really fast.

What would be neat is if the internal storage could be synched to
SlimServer over wireless.  Perhaps a designated low bitrate subset of
your SlimServer library could be transferred over.

I don't see why mini USB instead of Ethernet either.  In fact, maybe no
wired networking at all would make more sense.

It would be a shame to lose the VFD - even the Roku SoundBridge Radio
uses one.  However if it was to be battery powered there may be no
choice.

Personally I'm looking for more of a Squeezebox boombox with its own
speakers but not 100% portable.  It could be that there are two
potential products here - a Squeezebox boombox and a Squeezebox
portable.  There are different needs here - internal storage would be
absolutely essential in a portable device while it would not be
desirable in a boombox still within wireless range.  A boombox could
likely be plugged in so a VFD could be used while a portable might
benefit more from an LCD.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread GoCubs

Mark Lanctot;136090 Wrote: 
 It would be a shame to lose the VFD - even the Roku SoundBridge Radio
 uses one.  However if it was to be battery powered there may be no
 choice.
How about OLED...

-Greg


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread aubuti

d_anders;135998 Wrote: 
 POINT: Squeezebox needs to become a full portable media player with it's
 own storage.  I love the interface.  It should also work on it's own
 internal storage without having to stream from PC, NAS, or
 Squeezenetwork.
Sorry if I'm being dense here, but what do you have in mind for the
output? If it's portable (battery powered and all) then are you
thinking headphones? If so, what's the major advantage you see over
existing personal players like Sansa, Rio, or those pod things?


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread autopilot

d_anders, you are right in that a portable squeezebox/boombox/squeezebox
radio is a great idea, and something that many of us are crying out for.
Slimdevices are tied up with the Transporter, but i think its the next
logical (and good business) step.

But you are s wrong about the internal storage issue. Thats not
what Slimdevices are about and not what people who buy squeezebox's
want. At the end of the day, if i wanted a portable device with onboard
storage i would by an iPod. You are missing the whole point.

I dont want multiple compies of my music all of the place, i want a
single central server with all my music in high quality lossless form.
It's nicer to manage, allows for 'zoneing' you house and syncing
players and it's potentially a much cheaper model. I think this is the
way forward (along with online storage/subscription services). I would
also be interested in seeing how battery life compares between running
a HDD and just wifi. A non-HDD device would also be far more robust.

But a portable squeezebox is badly wanted, just look how well the
soundbridge radio thing has gone down.

Just in case they are planning one, how about some sugestions for a
name? I will start the ball rolling;

'Squeezio' (squeeze/radio, geddit?)
'Squeezebox Radio' (too boring?)
'Squeezebox Lite'

Of course if any of these names are used, i wont charge too much :)


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread d_anders

1) Ok, inline storage

I could give up on it, but I think some additional internal memory
would allow the unit to buffer a stream for period of time, so that any
intermittment drops in network performance could be handled better.

2) Those of you asking, why not just get a RIO, sandisk, etc??  I guess
my request on inline storage confused matters.  

3) Why not a softsqueeze link via a laptop?laptops are too big...I
want a truly portable, put in my pocket, squeezebox that I will listen
to with earphones, or super easy to plug into boom boxes, etc

Microsoft's ZUNE devices are going to have this.  And they will be able
to link to media centers and other services via the devices.  They will
be able to do both inline storage and connect to outside services.

I want Slim Devices to come out with a portable unit to do the same,
which should be able to wirelessly connect to slimdevices servers,
squeezenetwork, and hopefully online music lockers.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread mrfantasy

If you can do MP3 streaming with a Zune, you could get a lot of what you
want by attaching to SlimServer that way.  Then if there's some way to
write a web interface for it. . .


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread blkwrx

A portable player would be great but lets not forget that Rio had a
great portable audiophile player that still couldn't compete with the
iPod. If SlimDevices makes a portable play I would envision it as one
that you can plug any usb hd into.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread d_anders

mrfantasy;136185 Wrote: 
 If you can do MP3 streaming with a Zune, you could get a lot of what you
 want by attaching to SlimServer that way.  Then if there's some way to
 write a web interface for it. . .

Perhaps, even with a port of softsqueeze to a pocketpc would do this
too.

I'm making the suggestion to Slim Devices to consider as one of their
next hardware products.  They don't make money supporting and developing
an opensource environment...they make money by making useful and more
capable hardware products that take advantage of the open source
environment...


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread Mark Lanctot

Taking on the iPod would be corporate suicide.

Microsoft can do it - they can afford to throw $100 million at the
market and then say oh well at the end of the day when it just
doesn't catch on.  They're not the type to just say oh well and call
it quits though, they have the money to be able to enter the market by
brute force.

Though I don't know the particulars of Slim Devices' financial
situation, I can safely say they don't have the financial clout of
Microsoft.  ;-)

Everyone who wants an iPod already has one.  The holdouts either just
hate Apple and everything they do or they just don't want a portable
player, period.  Slim would only be able to go after the Apple haters. 
That's a niche within a niche.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread bklaas

I think comparing the Squeezeboombox idea (which has been discussed
dozens of times on this forum) to an iPod is apples-to-oranges.

My dream goes something like this:

wireless SB3 hardware
T-Ampish kind of thing to drive the speakers
Speakers of reasonable but affordable quality
One electrical cord to power it
Ability to run on batteries (9 Ds, I don't care, just cut the cord)
A case for it all

there'd be a headphone jack, but that's not it's primary purpose. I
want it to look like a thumpin' boombox, not a wee tiny ipod.

Personally, I think inline storage would be a major misdirection, but
then I want it for carrying into my backyard, still within my
slimserver's LAN.

The fact that a device such as this would be largely useless outside of
slimserver range probably makes it a sketchy business decision to
develop such a product. But I'd buy it.

#!/ben


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread mrfantasy

I think I want something like this too.  I could build it now with an
SB3, T-Amp, and speakers (and ideally, a salvaged vintage boombox), but
can't figure out how to do it for less than $400-$500.  What would be
the price point for such a box?  I guess you could get the price down
by ditching the VFD display (probably would want to for battery life
too), and perhaps using some cheaper components (but Slim has a rep to
uphold).

It also would work anywhere you can get a Wi-Fi signal if you have
access to your SlimServer (perhaps a firmware mod to support SSH
tunneling will be necessary?)

bklaas;136208 Wrote: 
 I think comparing the Squeezeboombox idea (which has been discussed
 dozens of times on this forum) to an iPod is apples-to-oranges.
 
 My dream goes something like this:
 
 wireless SB3 hardware
 T-Ampish kind of thing to drive the speakers
 Speakers of reasonable but affordable quality
 One electrical cord to power it
 Ability to run on batteries (9 Ds, I don't care, just cut the cord)
 A case for it all
 
 there'd be a headphone jack, but that's not it's primary purpose. I
 want it to look like a thumpin' boombox, not a wee tiny ipod.
 
 Personally, I think inline storage would be a major misdirection, but
 then I want it for carrying into my backyard, still within my
 slimserver's LAN.
 
 The fact that a device such as this would be largely useless outside of
 slimserver range probably makes it a sketchy business decision to
 develop such a product. But I'd buy it.
 
 #!/ben


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread bklaas

Boy, I like where you are going with that idea, esp. the built-in
tunnelling option via firmware. 

Do you know how to deal with the AC-DC thing? Forgive me, I'm an
electrical idiot, but isn't providing power with batteries vs. AC a
non-trivial issue? Has this been componentized (that a word?) to the
point where you can just buy the necessary hardware to be able to
switch between the two power sources seamlessly?

I know there's some upstart companies that are now doing fully custom
fabrication of cases and the like, so I think it would be possible for
someone that wanted to hack a solution together to do it in a
reasonably polished manner.

Making something like this is WAY out of my league, but fun to bounce
around ideas once in a while.

#!/ben


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread Mark Lanctot

bklaas;136220 Wrote: 
 Do you know how to deal with the AC-DC thing? Forgive me, I'm an
 electrical idiot, but isn't providing power with batteries vs. AC a
 non-trivial issue? Has this been componentized (that a word?) to the
 point where you can just buy the necessary hardware to be able to
 switch between the two power sources seamlessly?

Yes, this is trivial.  Such units are designed internally to run on DC.
You merely have to provide an adapter that converts 120 VAC to the
required DC voltage.

That's why wall-wart adapters for battery-powered devices usually come
in 1.5 V steps for output voltage.


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Re: [slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread Marc Sherman
bklaas wrote:
 
 My dream goes something like this:
 
 wireless SB3 hardware
 T-Ampish kind of thing to drive the speakers
 Speakers of reasonable but affordable quality
 One electrical cord to power it
 Ability to run on batteries (9 Ds, I don't care, just cut the cord)
 A case for it all
 
 there'd be a headphone jack, but that's not it's primary purpose. I
 want it to look like a thumpin' boombox, not a wee tiny ipod.

Yes. YES!

One final thing I'd like to add to this wishlist is some buttons. It
doesn't necessarily need the full suite of buttons from the remote
(perhaps you could drop the number keys, if buttons onboard raise the
cost), but at least some of the buttons to allow control without the
remote. This would fit the boom-box market well, and also allow this
device to serve well as a clock-radio, too.

- Marc

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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread bklaas

Mark Lanctot;136222 Wrote: 
 Such units are designed internally to run on DC.  You merely have to
 provide an adapter that converts 120 VAC to the required DC voltage.
 

But is the existing squeezebox hardware designed to run on DC? If not,
could it be converted to run on DC easily? I guess I was thinking in
terms of leveraging existing hardware (either by Slim or by an
enterprising modder).

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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread blkwrx

bklaas;136230 Wrote: 
 But is the existing squeezebox hardware designed to run on DC? If not,
 could it be converted to run on DC easily? I guess I was thinking in
 terms of leveraging existing hardware (either by Slim or by an
 enterprising modder).
 
 #!/ben

Yes, 5vdc.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread bklaas

Marc Sherman;136225 Wrote: 
 
 One final thing I'd like to add to this wishlist is some buttons. It
 doesn't necessarily need the full suite of buttons from the remote
 (perhaps you could drop the number keys, if buttons onboard raise the
 cost), but at least some of the buttons to allow control without the
 remote. This would fit the boom-box market well, and also allow this
 device to serve well as a clock-radio, too.
 
 - Marc

What if there was just a slot in the case to put the remote? I know
that doesn't look as polished as having onboard buttons, but I'm keen
on not reinventing things (you can tell I come from the Linux school of
thought). Of course, now with the transporter there is the possibility
of squeezeboom box not only having on-board controls but a BIG HONKIN'
KNOB as well.

love knobs. love 'em.
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Re: [slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread kdf

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Mark Lanctot;136222 Wrote:

Such units are designed internally to run on DC.  You merely have to
provide an adapter that converts 120 VAC to the required DC voltage.



But is the existing squeezebox hardware designed to run on DC? If not,
could it be converted to run on DC easily?


it runs on 5V DC already.  It's the current draw that makes it  
impractical for batteries.  You could mod up a series stack of 3 or 4  
D cells (depends on if it will run at 4.5 and/or accept as high as 6V  
in) and see how long it lasts.  I expect the power hungry VFD would  
have to go.

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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread Mark Lanctot

bklaas;136230 Wrote: 
 But is the existing squeezebox hardware designed to run on DC? If not,
 could it be converted to run on DC easily? I guess I was thinking in
 terms of leveraging existing hardware (either by Slim or by an
 enterprising modder).
 
 #!/ben

As blkwrx said, 5 V DC.  Note you couldn't do this with standard A-C-D
batteries, the closest you could come is 4.5 V.

BTW the device is not entirely DC, I believe the VFD requires AC so
there's an inverter.

The power supply is 2 A.  At first I was going to say that's a fairly
heavy demand for a battery but look here:

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/WilliamCruz.shtml

A single D cell has a capacity of 15 A*h.  That means it could power a
Squeezebox for 7 hours, and a Squeezebox doesn't draw a full 2 A.  Not
bad!


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Re: [slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread kdf
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A single D cell has a capacity of 15 A*h.  That means it could power a
Squeezebox for 7 hours, and a Squeezebox doesn't draw a full 2 A.  Not
bad!


Also highly theoretical.  Battery life isn't linear.  Draw a  
consistently higher current you may find that it lasts less than the  
stated Ah.  There can sometimes be sweet-spots, plus the voltage drops  
over time.  This can mean the device drops off before the battery is  
used up, or the device draws more than the usual curent and runs the  
battery down even faster.

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Re: [slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread Marc Sherman
bklaas wrote:
 
 What if there was just a slot in the case to put the remote? I know
 that doesn't look as polished as having onboard buttons, but I'm keen
 on not reinventing things (you can tell I come from the Linux school of
 thought). 

Then they'd need two IR receivers -- one in the recessed slot, and a
second out in the open for regular remote usage. If that's workable, and
makes things easier/cheaper to build, it's fine by me.

 Of course, now with the transporter there is the possibility
 of squeezeboom box not only having on-board controls but a BIG HONKIN'
 KNOB as well.
 
 love knobs. love 'em.
 #!/ben

Well, yeah, I'd love the transporter knob on a squeezeboombox, too, but
I was assuming that the knob was one of the things that differentiated
the transporter. Is the transporter knob clickable? If so, I'd love it
on the squeezeboombox even more, because for the clock-radio
application, it'd make the perfect snooze button.

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Re: [slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread kdf

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Is the transporter knob clickable?


yup.  it serves the same function as pressing the right arrow.
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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread Mark Lanctot

kdf;136243 Wrote: 
 Also highly theoretical.  Battery life isn't linear.  Draw a  
 consistently higher current you may find that it lasts less than the  
 stated Ah.  There can sometimes be sweet-spots, plus the voltage drops 
 
 over time.  This can mean the device drops off before the battery is  
 used up, or the device draws more than the usual curent and runs the  
 battery down even faster.

Hmm, good point.  It would be nice to keep the VFD but as GoCubs Greg
and wikipedia mentions, a high-intensity OLED might be in order.

The data did originally come from Duracell - I'm sure they wanted to be
as optimistic as scientifically possible.  ;-)

Also wireless cards suck a lot of power as well - otherwise my laptop
wouldn't have so many darn settings to keep it at low power or powered
down entirely.


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Re: [slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread Marc Sherman
kdf wrote:
 
 Is the transporter knob clickable?
 
 yup.  it serves the same function as pressing the right arrow.

Oh. I want one. I'm no audiophile, so not $1999 worth, but I really
want one. :)

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Re: [slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread Marc Sherman
Marc Sherman wrote:
 
 Oh. I want one. I'm no audiophile, so not $1999 worth, but I really
 want one. :)

Oh, um, and a pony.

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Re: [slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread kdf
Quoting Mark Lanctot  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:




Hmm, good point.  It would be nice to keep the VFD but as GoCubs Greg
and wikipedia mentions, a high-intensity OLED might be in order.



Then again, consider that we're tlaking about wifi, so it's a case of  
being movable rather than entirely wireless.  In that case, one option  
could be a very low power mode.  Unplug it and the battery keeps the  
memory, wifi, audio processor and headphone output going.  Killing all  
else will save battery life. Plugging back in will restore full power  
without missing a beat and start recharging. You probably wouldn't  
have to worry about 7 hours of life.  2 would be enough to mow the  
lawn, do some dusting, etc.  Other times, just plug it into one of  
several power adaptors around the house.


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Re: [slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread Marc Sherman
kdf wrote:
 
 Then again, consider that we're tlaking about wifi, so it's a case of  
 being movable rather than entirely wireless.  In that case, one option  
 could be a very low power mode.  Unplug it and the battery keeps the  
 memory, wifi, audio processor and headphone output going.  Killing all  
 else will save battery life. Plugging back in will restore full power  
 without missing a beat and start recharging. You probably wouldn't  
 have to worry about 7 hours of life.  2 would be enough to mow the  
 lawn, do some dusting, etc.  Other times, just plug it into one of  
 several power adaptors around the house.

Just for the record, I just spent $2500 on an electrician to provide
power to my new deck and tool shed, so I'd still buy one of these even
if it doesn't run on batteries. :)

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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread paltomare

My wish list items for SB 4:

1 Internal, swapable hardrive(s) w/raid
2. USB port for external hardrive
3. Direct internet audio streaming, eliminate the need for
SqueezeNetwork
4. Internal CD drive for ripping, playing, maybe even writing.
5. Video port for optional on-screen display


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread funkstar

paltomare;136261 Wrote: 
 My wish list items for SB 4:
 
 1 Internal, swapable hardrive(s) w/raid
 2. USB port for external hardrive
 3. Direct internet audio streaming, eliminate the need for
 SqueezeNetwork
 4. Internal CD drive for ripping, playing, maybe even writing.
 5. Video port for optional on-screen display

not a very Slim device that one. So it's basically a SqueezeBox and a
PC in the same box? i'd be very surprised if it happens  and i think it
would be a mistake too. (that is just my opinion though). Perhaps
teaming with a third party to produce an off the shelf SlimServer box
(like they have done with Infrant with their NAS) then that is OK.

But as a replacement for the SB3? forget it.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread bklaas

paltomare;136261 Wrote: 
 My wish list items for SB 4:
 
 1 Internal, swapable hardrive(s) w/raid
 2. USB port for external hardrive
 3. Direct internet audio streaming, eliminate the need for
 SqueezeNetwork
 4. Internal CD drive for ripping, playing, maybe even writing.
 5. Video port for optional on-screen display

This device already exists. Buy a PC with a CD burner and a soundcard
that can output to a stereo. That's what you're asking for.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread d_anders

I like the other suggestions on this thread too, and I believe there is
merit for them too, but I'm still going to stick to my suggestion of a
portable squeezebox.

A dockable portable squeezbox could plug into a boom box. 

I'm still thinking a portable squeezebox with a lcd screen with lithium
ion batteries, with a headphone jack that supports wifi is a good idea. 
Hot Spots are popping up everywhere, and taking this on the go would be
great.

If slimdevices doesn't go in the portable direction, I would like a
least a good port of softsqueeze for PocketPC/Smartphone Windows Mobile
5.  This would meet a lot of the same criteria, just not as elegant.

There are a number of phones out on the market, some with wifi and evdo
that could connect to home based networks and squeezebox network
(pandora on the go).

Mobile, Mobile, Mobile.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread paltomare

Mobility would be cool, just not high on my priority list currently. The
PC option mentioned above is too cumbersome, I'm looking to break the
connection to my computer. In looking around for a device with the
options I'm intersted in I came across the Escient and the Olive units.
Anyone have an opinion about these besides the fact that they're quite
expensive, but then again the Transporter is close to that price point
too. 

For now my little old SB1 is working just fine.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-14 Thread aubuti

The Olive units have been discussed in the forums before, including
posts by 1 or 2 former Olive users. Do a search and you'll find them.
The overall sentiment seemed to be overpriced and a system that is
overly closed: it's said that you can't even make a backup of the Olive
hard drive, except with some proprietary Olive format. I haven't heard
anything about the Escient products.


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[slim] Re: Wanted: New Hardware - Squeezebox Portable

2006-09-13 Thread seafoxx

great idea.

im moving my squeezebox twice a day from living room to bathroom and
back.  already thinking about buying a second a/c adaptor so i only
have to move the box. btw: have to walk back at least 2 times a week
because of forgetting the remote control. a power ans play button
would be the minimum features...


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