Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Posted a new thread about this, but saw this now and would like to add my issue. Mine has been working all the way until I changed encryption on my wireless router. Every now and then it looses connection and I actually have to reinstall it to make it work. First I thought it was when turning off the computer, but it can happen in the middle of a song (playing from HDD, not radio). I'll try to change the encryption once more to see if it might work better... -- Joaquin Joaquin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9247 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
radish;365171 Wrote: SBC doesn't roam between APs, so that could easily cause confusion. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6085 I think this is the issue. Also, if you're using the same SSID on both AP's you can go to network settings on the Controller and look at the BSSID, that is unique per AP. This is how I was testing if the Controller was roaming. For me, strangely, it worked! I was using a Linksys router and Linksys range expander. The bug is still open so your mileage may vary. I would agree that those Ethernet over Power adapters, or whatever they are called, to an access point. It all depends on how well ethernet over power adapters work in your home, but I would guess it must be better than a wireless stand alone repeater. -- Ross L Ross Levine - Slim Devices Quality Assurance Ross L's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
radish;365061 Wrote: 1. They can help in some cases, actually hinder in others. If it were me, I'd put another AP on the other side of the house and run powerline (or real ethernet if possible) between them. That's what I do for upstairs and downstairs in my house. How well does this work for you? Do you have a Controller, and can you connect through both access points without issue? I thought my range expander essentially acted as a second AP. Maybe not. Mine uses the same SSID as the primary router (it won't let me do otherwise,) which may be causing some of my problems. I'm tempted to junk my router and range expander and replace it with a draft-N with some beefed up antennas. I'm weary of trying to deal with multiple AP's -- is this an unfounded concern? -- ajkidle ajkidle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
imho, static IPs are much better when it comes to slim stuff. why they make it so hard to use them if you want to, only they can answer. but in my exp, static IPs work better with my SB2. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / SBC - w/SC 7.3b - Win XP Pro SP3 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
ajkidle;365066 Wrote: How well does this work for you? Do you have a Controller, and can you connect through both access points without issue? It works fine. I have a number of controllers and other devices connecting through the APs, although I don't try roaming between them (it doesn't work for the SBCs and I don't need to move them around so it doesn't really matter). Devices which do roam (e.g. laptops) have both networks setup and they seem to switch pretty reliably as needed. I thought my range expander essentially acted as a second AP. Maybe not. Mine uses the same SSID as the primary router (it won't let me do otherwise,) which may be causing some of my problems. I'm tempted to junk my router and range expander and replace it with a draft-N with some beefed up antennas. I'm weary of trying to deal with multiple AP's -- is this an unfounded concern? SBC doesn't roam between APs, so that could easily cause confusion. I use different SSIDs so I can at least tell which it's connected to. The other problem with range extenders is that they use wireless for their link to the main AP, so whilst you may be improving SNR you're also killing the available bandwidth. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
I debated starting a new thread for this, but I'll stick with this one and try not to add to the clutter. Two things that are not ready for primetime: wireless networking and the Controller. Maybe that's overstating things a bit, but I'm frustrated. And let me also state that I love my duet. Love. When it's working. When it's not working, it makes me want to hurt someone. My setup: Windows XP running SqueezeCenter 7.2.1 (connected via ethernet to the router) Linksys WRTP54G (the Vonage router) Linksys WRE54G (wireless range expander) Using DHCP and WPA 1 SBC (7.2 r3191) 2 SBR's, one is via ethernet to the router, the second is wireless Everything seems to work (mostly) fine when I'm associate with the router. It's with the second access point (the range expander) that causes things to get flaky. I know the secondary AP is working, and has a reasonably strong connection to my router -- my primary computer connects to the web via the range expander, works fine. But the SBC doesn't see the rest of my network when it is associated with the range expander -- it can't find the XP box running SC and it can't find either of my SBR's. The SBR that I use wirelessly seems to connect fine via the range expander...it's just the controller that has issues. I'm not 100% certain this is a Squeezebox issue, could be my network setup. But it seems odd to me that other wireless devices work, and it's really only the controller that causes me grief. So I'm left to wonder: 1 - Are range expanders a bad way to go? Do they in someway just complicate the network? I'm not impressed with Vonage, maybe it's time for a new router...but I'll need something with strong range to deal with the plaster walls and chimney in the middle of the house. Any suggestions? 2 - are more network fixes coming for the controller with future software releases? 3 - would static IP's help? Or would that be a lot of hassle for nothing? Andy -- ajkidle ajkidle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Well, so far the problem appears to have been finally mitigated with the last release. =) -- kingrys kingrys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20831 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Yup, did that the night I last posted...so far so good. Once when it was out of the cradle it made me wait 30 seconds or so before becoming usable again, but that is far better than waiting and then still having to do a power cycle. Will keep using it and will report back again later. =) Thanks, Shane -- kingrys kingrys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20831 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Yup, icon turns blue. Version 7.2 r2873 Aug 22, 2008. I think I saw elsewhere tonight that there is a new version of Squeezecenter (presumably maybe with controller firmware too). I'll go seek that out and read again the bug link you reference. THanks. -- kingrys kingrys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20831 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
I am having the same problems with my Squeezebox Controller. It loses network connection quite often. My old setup was a Linksys WRT54G access point newest firmware. My new setup is a DLINK DIR-825 router/AP hardware A1, firmware 1.00 The controller has been at three different revisions, and is at the newest as of today. I have tried broadcasting my SSID and not. I have tried both WEP and WEP2. I have not tried broadcast w/o encryption. I think that the controller may be working better w/the DLINK in that I havent had it drop out when Im listening to music and have it with me in the room somewhere. With the Linksys, it would drop every two to 30 minutes. That said, Ive only used it a couple of times with the new router. However, it still has the problem where it will drop out if its in the cradle for sometime between one and two days. I have an iPhone, two Squeezebox receivers and sometime a laptop in the house that never experience problems. The Receiver shows a strong signal in the places it drops out. Having to reboot the Controller often is obviously very frustrating. :( It seems that this has been a long running issue. What sort of tests would tech support like me to do to help them figure out how the heck to remedy this situation!?!? -- kingrys kingrys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20831 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
kingrys;354989 Wrote: What sort of tests would tech support like me to do to help them figure out how the heck to remedy this situation!?!? You would need to contact tech support to answer this question, the forums are not technical support. When you say the Controller drops out, do you mean the wireless icon turns blue? If so it sounds like you're seeing the bug 8159. Please share what version of Controller firmware you're using. -- Ross L Ross Levine - Slim Devices Quality Assurance Ross L's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Ross L;340761 Wrote: Just wanted to post letting everyone know this is a very high priority for us in QA. Thanks everyone for the great details. Hmm, let's think, it was planned to 7.2.1, I just received am message that the roadmap for now (being delayed) is 7.3 Why? -- Henk51 Henk51's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18366 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
7.2.1 is due within a week or so, 7.3 isn't but a few weeks behind. -- Ross L Ross Levine - Slim Devices Quality Assurance Ross L's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
westland315;341378 Wrote: the controller, however, will drop from the network after some time. always. keep using it and it will be ok, leave it unused and after a while it will have to be turned off and on again to rejoin the party. Same here. After the controller is unused for a while, it loses the connection and I get the blue icon. It re-connects only after I turn the controller off and on again. I'm using a Linksys WRT54G router in a mixed wired/wireless network. I have the same problems with a Linksys WRT54GL in mixed mode. Moreover the SBC sometimes reboots when rests untouched on the table -- Sliver Squeezebox Duet Receiver (FW: 36) wired to router Controller (Ver: 7.1 r2722) wifi'd to router Synology DS-107+ wired to router Router: Linksys WRT54GL (DD-WRT v23 SP2) Sliver's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16948 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
pablolie;341074 Wrote: the controller, however, will drop from the network after some time. always. keep using it and it will be ok, leave it unused and after a while it will have to be turned off and on again to rejoin the party. QUOTE] Same here. After the controller is unused for a while, it loses the connection and I get the blue icon. It re-connects only after I turn the controller off and on again. I'm using a Linksys WRT54G router in a mixed wired/wireless network. -- westland315 westland315's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
pablolie;341074 Wrote: the controller, however, will drop from the network after some time. always. keep using it and it will be ok, leave it unused and after a while it will have to be turned off and on again to rejoin the party. Good point. When i turn off the duet (both SBC and SBR) and after some days turn on again, it's power on normaly and it will connect to SN. But leave it, in standby or 'pause' internet radio, and sometimes while playing, it turn's to Blue-icon. I've simulated with 3 router's WRT54G v.2 WRT54G v.7 and DIR-655 it give's me the same result,finaly (blue). I forgot to mentioned, it's filed in the bug tracker #8221 -- Henk51 Henk51's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18366 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Hi Ross, could you also give to ability to give the receiver and controller a static IP a high priority - I know there is a 3. party plugin but it's not easy to do - you need perl runtime and other stuff. And I don't have access/password for my router. I guees that I might solve the problem for some users. -- Kim.T HP T5700 Thin Client running FreeNAS + SqueezeCenter 7.1 Synology DS-101j / Samsung SpinPoint T133 HD400LD 400 GB - now with 92 mm fan TViX HD M-4000PA / Samsung SpinPoint T133 HD400LD 400 GB Sony HX750 HDD recorder Kim.T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15059 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Ross L;340764 Wrote: I also wanted to suggest if anyone is willing, please update our router status wiki page with problems you see with your specific routers or wireless access points. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/RouterStatus it is not very update friendly in that table format :-) for the record, the Linksys WRT54GX4 SRX400 does not work well with the Duet. works flawlessly with the SB3, even though for historical reasosns i keep the SB3s with static IP addresses. with the Duet, the receiver does ok and stays mostly connected irrespective of that the controller's status is. the fact i have the Duet synched to the SB3s makes the fact that the controller goes incomunicado more bearable. the dreaded blue icon is a thing of the past now with the receiver, except in one case which i will mention later. the controller, however, will drop from the network after some time. always. keep using it and it will be ok, leave it unused and after a while it will have to be turned off and on again to rejoin the party. the receiver totally turns off when the sleeping timer is set - for all i know it is the intended use, but given the fact that the controller also goes offline, the resulting combo needs to be restarted over and over again for it to play music again. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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pablolie;341074 Wrote: it is not very update friendly in that table format :-) Good point. I've added instructions which I think should help to the RouterStatus wiki entry. Regarding the WRT54GX4 we don't have this particular router here in house but we have the GX2, I'll try to find time this week to test it as you suggest. I plan on starting a new thread asking for some details for a specific Controller issue I'm having a tough time reproducing soon. -- Ross L Ross Levine - Slim Devices Quality Assurance Ross L's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
We're trying to reproduce this here in the QA lab, so far I still haven't seen it. I'm using a Linksys WRT610N but I think its time to try another. Just wanted to post letting everyone know this is a very high priority for us in QA. Thanks everyone for the great details. -- Ross L Ross Levine - Slim Devices Quality Assurance Ross L's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
i use a static IP for my SB, and i use a reserved dhcp IP for my SBC, and i have had occassional issues with the sbc as i've mentioned b4 i think. but i am posting b/c why not, in the meantime, give the SBC a feature to restart the wireless connection from scratch, like the repair function in XP/Vista does for wireless connections. i think that would ease a lot of people's frusrations until the issue is solved, and actually would be a nice feature anyway of its own right, for when folks make network changes outside of the SBC. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / SBC - w/SC 7.2b - Win XP Pro SP3 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
I also wanted to suggest if anyone is willing, please update our router status wiki page with problems you see with your specific routers or wireless access points. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/RouterStatus I'm still in the process of adding details from all the routers and access points we have here in the QA lab. I thought mentioning this may help us to track down the access points which most commonly exhibit this behavior. -- Ross L Ross Levine - Slim Devices Quality Assurance Ross L's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Henk51;338817 Wrote: Yes, let's hope it's bright white light, in SC 7.2.1. Let us hope. Question: how does one assign static IP addresses to the Duet components (SBR and SBC)? I have doen that with the SB3, but not with the Duet, which doesn't seem to offer that option during setup, rather asking which receiver and then which server to connect to as part of the dialog... -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Well, i didn't, but in my router i have the option to preserve static IP-adresses to the devices (PC,Nas, and Duet SBR/SBC). In general speaking, Static DHCP. The Router is Dir-655 D-Link. -- Henk51 Henk51's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18366 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
i was having similar issues. I have taken the box the squuezecenter is on, the SB, and the SBR off dhcp. My DHCP wsas set in the range 192.168.1.2 to 100. I have set up the 3 on 101,102,and 103. everything has worked out well. it is definately worth a try. -- wilgartw wilgartw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I've received a mail from Slimdevices and they could reproduce the Blue icon issue on the Duet Controller after some time (eq. standby or after a few days). They classified it as a major bug and we can only hope that they could resolve this shortly in the FW, could/should be solved in SC 7.2.1 ! -- Henk51 Henk51's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18366 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Mushroom_3;338800 Wrote: At last - light at the end of the tunnel? Yes, let's hope it's bright white light, in SC 7.2.1. -- Henk51 Henk51's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18366 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Gentoo user here; I'm having the same problems as everyone else. What I've noted is this: my controller almost never loses the connection, it just can't find the SB receiver to interface with (because it's using an incorrect IP). When the SBR does this, it gets the typical blue light on the front, does not respond to pings, etc. It typically goes into this fit if a Squeezecenter it was connected to (even while asleep) has been restarted or shut down. I'm so freaking tired of this and can't believe I paid $400 for a network music system that can't even hold a DHCP address. The fact that there's a 26 page thread on this should mean it is a top priority for the developers, but evidently it's not? None the less I'm going to peruse the source myself and see if I can find any obvious oversights that would be causing the SBR to ignore it's DHCP lease and autoconfigure itself an incorrect IP. A very frustrated new SB user. -Nate -- NaterGator NaterGator's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19873 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
As long as this thread i have also troubles with the Duet Controller. I've opened a Bug-tracker and sending LOG's to the Bug-tracker, long conversations, and try about every new beta jive firmware for the controller and the story goes on. About every 1-2 days i must remove the battery because it looses wifi conections, firmware loops, A.S.O. But inbetweens it works fine. -- Henk51 Henk51's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18366 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Just wanted to let you know, that I am experiencing the same problems already mentioned here before, but with some other hardware on the network/computer side: I have to different networks - one contains an AVM Fritzbox 3170 (Firmware 49.04.57) running in 802.11b/g compatible mode with a WPA 2 encryption and a second one running an Apple TimeCapsule 1TB (Firmware 7.3.2) also WPA2 encryption. I used the Timecapsule only to negotiate if it makes the same problems like the AVM Fritzbox, as I am normally running TC as a 5GHz 802.11n only device, but I can approve that the same problems appear with the TC instead of the Fritzbox. On the computers side it is an Apple iMac running Mac OS X 10.5.4 (Built 9E17) using the iTunes library (iTunes 7.7.1). As the Fritzbox (which ist quite popular in Germany as it is supplied with several DSL line contracts by many telcos) has a better webinterface to figure out the problem, let me tell you what happens. If I take a look into the webinterface I can see that the controller as well as the player have been assigned an IP adresse. The iMac has a fixed IP address. When I try to configure the Squeezebox it connects to the WLAN supplied by the Fritzbox and when it comes to the point to connect to the music library the SB controller says something like Squeezebox (169.168...) can not connect... - that means that the SB has got an invalid IP adresse while the router (Fritzbox) still states an valid one for the squeezebox controller and says that it is connected. A bit strange in my oppinion. So I reseted the SB again and now it detects the network again, I can enter the password and the the controller says that the network connection can not be established. Doing the same procedure again a few times it worked after serveral tries but only for a few minutes. After that the connection dropped again and I experienced either the problem, that the commands I gave with controller was only executed after a few seconds or even minutes (while the music started/stopped playing in between several times) or even says again, that there is no connection. On the Mac I tried Squeezecenter 7.0.1, 7.1 and at last the nightly build of 7.2 -no difference. As I am running several other devices on the network (an Apple TV, a Sonos system, an HP WLAN Printer, a Sony PS3 etc.) and no one has got connection problems with the WLAN that definately seems to be a problem between the SB and the Fritzbox or WLAN in general. It does not even matter if there are about 3-4 meters between the WLAN base and the SB or about 12-13 meters (last one would be the usual setup for me). As a last note from my side, I gave a second SB Duet to a friend of mine, running also a Fritzbox but with an QNAP209 as the server and he experienced similar problems. In the company I am working for we also set up a SB Duet and treid to connect it to a WLAN and an Mac as the server - not sucess running Apple Airport Base stations as WLAN access points. Last try was to give another SB Duett to another friend using a Netgear WLAN router as well as a ReadyNas as the server - that works flawlessly (as you see sometimes it is quite usefull to have access to several Squeezeboxes ;). From my point of view, after all those tries the SB Duett controller seems to have problems with some kind of WLAN hardware and maybe a hugher ammount of other WLAN devices in the network (interferencies?). So for me I am going on to use my Sonos system that works flawlessly and will try to use the Duett from time to time again while hopeing that it will work some day. Oliver -- ollymbln ollymbln's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19426 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Just wanted to let you know, that I am experiencing the same problems already mentioned here before, but with some other hardware on the network/computer side: I have to different networks - one contains an AVM Fritzbox 3170 (Firmware 49.04.57) running in 802.11b/g compatible mode with a WPA2 encryption and a second one running an Apple TimeCapsule 1TB (Firmware 7.3.2) also WPA2 encryption. I used the Timecapsule only to negotiate if it makes the same problems like the AVM Fritzbox, as I am normally running TC as a 5GHz 802.11n only device, but I can approve that the same problems appear with the TC instead of the Fritzbox. On the computers side it is an Apple iMac running Mac OS X 10.5.4 (Built 9E17) using the iTunes library (iTunes 7.7.1). As the Fritzbox (which ist quite popular in Germany as it is supplied with several DSL line contracts by many telcos) has a better webinterface to figure out the problem, let me tell you what happens. If I take a look into the webinterface I can see that the controller as well as the player have been assigned an IP adresse. The iMac has a fixed IP address. When I try to configure the Squeezebox it connects to the WLAN supplied by the Fritzbox and when it comes to the point to connect to the music library the SB controller says something like Squeezebox (169.168...) can not connect... - that means that the SB has got an invalid IP adresse while the router (Fritzbox) still states an valid one for the squeezebox controller and says that it is connected. A bit strange in my oppinion. So I reseted the SB again and now it detects the network again, I can enter the password and the the controller says that the network connection can not be established. Doing the same procedure again a few times it worked after serveral tries but only for a few minutes. After that the connection dropped again and I experienced either the problem, that the commands I gave with controller was only executed after a few seconds or even minutes (while the music started/stopped playing in between several times) or even says again, that there is no connection. On the Mac I tried Squeezecenter 7.0.1, 7.1 and at last the nightly build of 7.2 -no difference. As I am running several other devices on the network (an Apple TV, a Sonos system, an HP WLAN Printer, a Sony PS3 etc.) and no one has got connection problems with the WLAN that definately seems to be a problem between the SB and the Fritzbox or WLAN in general. It does not even matter if there are about 3-4 meters between the WLAN base and the SB or about 12-13 meters (last one would be the usual setup for me). As a last note from my side, I gave a second SB Duet to a friend of mine, running also a Fritzbox but with an QNAP209 as the server and he experienced similar problems. In the company I am working for we also set up a SB Duet and tried to connect it to a WLAN and an Mac as the server - no sucess running Apple Airport Base stations as WLAN access points. Last try was to give another SB Duett to another friend using a Netgear WLAN router as well as a ReadyNas as the server - that works flawlessly (as you see sometimes it is quite usefull to have access to several Squeezeboxes ;). From my point of view, after all those tries the SB Duett controller seems to have problems with some kind of WLAN hardware and maybe a hugher ammount of other WLAN devices in the network (interferencies?). So for me I am going on to use my Sonos system that works flawlessly and will try to use the Duett from time to time again while hopeing that it will work some day. Oliver -- ollymbln ollymbln's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19426 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
I just wanted to add my own experience with this very real problem. First, I had my network with only MAC address filtering. Squeezebox Duet worked fine and I had none of the setup problems others had noted in this and other threads. Then I decided to make a secure network and went for WAP2. All my computers connected correctly and at first it looked like the SB Controller had also connected properly. But I just could not get the Receiver to connect. Then I saw that the Controller kept going in and out of connecting with the network. I tried all sorts of variations but no luck. After reading some of the comments earlier in this thread, I changed the security to WEP 128 key. The controller connected with no problem and I was then able to get the Receiver to connect again as well. I don't know if the WAP2 connection problem is linked to my router (D-Link WBR-2310)but I would like to go to WAP2 security at some point soon. The Controller is using 7.1 r2722 and I have Squeezecenter 7.1 22170. I would hope the next update will solve this issue. I hope this helps others waste a little less time than I did. Juerg -- jphjph jphjph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19432 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I also tried disableing the auto-refresh option in Squeezecenter. And since disabling it, I never had a blue icon anymore! I have disabled it for three days now and everything works as a charm. After updating the library the blue icon shows up again! -- Stevan Stevan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I have a similar situation to Stevan in that the controller will lose connection to the SC server overnight whilst in the cradle and not reconnect without restarting the controller. The wireless power saving makes no difference. However, I am running SC on a QNAP TS-209 Pro set up to do a scan for new music overnight, during which time it becomes un-responsive. So I tried running a scan this morning manually, after reconnecting the controller, and lo and behold the controller has lost its connection and cannot re-connect, even though the scan has completed and the server is now responding normally. I will try disabling the scan tonight and leave the controller in the cradle to see if it loses the connection again. BTW I can ping the controller successfully even though it can't connect, in fact I can even log in using SSH so it is not a wireless or network issue. So, it seems to me that the real problem is the controller and SC being unable to re-establish a dialogue once interrupted. However, it is odd, since I can move the controller out of wireless range (and get the blue icon) yet it will reconnect perfectly once within range again. I hope this helps someone sort this problem, because it is really annoying! -- chemirocha chemirocha's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18708 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I also have problems with the SBC not connecting to Squeezecenter unless I remove the battery or reset it by pressing the 'Home' button for several seconds. There were numerous discussions about Wireless Power Save not being correctly implemented in some WiFi Acces Points. This being said, there should be no problems when using the Duet in bridged mode, right? WRONG! Even when using the Duet in bridged mode the problem occurs: still a blue icon (the SBC is pingable through the network). However, I noticed something which might help solving the problem: the problem ony occurs after leaving the SBC on the charger for some hours (e.g. overnight). When I don't put the SBC on the charger the SBC works fine the next morning: after picking it up, it says: 'Be patient' (or something equivalent in Dutch), then the menu shows with a blue icon which turns white after 5 seconds or so. After that everything works as it's supposed to do. My setup: Squeezecenter 7.1 (on a QNAP TS-209 NAS), SBC firmware v7.1r2722, SBR Firmware 36 (according to my controller) Linksys WRT54G, with DD-WRT v24-sp1 (07/27/08) Hope this helps in solving the problem. -- Stevan Stevan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Letten;326418 Wrote: Hi Brian, I've had lot's of connection problems and router-crashes and after a lot of experimenting I have come to the conclusion that my Vista Laptop (that I bought to run SC) was the main source of my problems. I thought my wireless was ok, and I had no problems using the Vista laptop for internet browsing - but a look in the system log of Vista revealed lots of dhcp errors, disconnects and reconnects, not a problem for browsing and email, but not optimal for streaming. Do You have access to another PC (not Vista) that you could try an run SC on instead? keep Vista completely off, while testing this. Also try this: Wireless security if used, try disableling. If that helps try moving to WEP. I've had problems with WPA and reauthentication. Also try static IP's on the PC with SC. Good luck Thank you. I went through this whole thread and tried the suggestion to change the IP address of the router from the default (192.168.1.1). After this the SB worked perfectly well, but I was unable to connect to the internet. I then changed it back to 192.168.1.1, and so far it all works. I have my doubts though. I'll be the first to admit, that I'm not very network savvy, but I find these issues unacceptable. BTW, I haven't got access to an XP PC, and i already use WEP. I'll try the static IP thing, if I encounter problems again. Cheers, Brian -- Brian Equator Brian Equator's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19196 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I wish I'd seen this thread before buying my Duet on Saturday! I think I have exactly the same issues as described here... too many pages of problems to read all the comments yet. The Duet takes a long time to connect to both my SB3 SqueezeCentre. Once it does it loose's connection shortly afterwards (sometimes within a minute). Nothing else on my network is having connectivity issues. I the same version numbers as above. Can someone from Logitech confirm that they are able to replicate these issues and are workin on a solution please. Markus -- markushk markushk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12808 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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What are you using for running Squeezecenter? -- Letten Letten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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markushk;326216 Wrote: I wish I'd seen this thread before buying my Duet on Saturday! I think I have exactly the same issues as described here... too many pages of problems to read all the comments yet. The Duet takes a long time to connect to both my SB3 SqueezeCentre. Once it does it loose's connection shortly afterwards (sometimes within a minute). Nothing else on my network is having connectivity issues. I the same version numbers as above. Can someone from Logitech confirm that they are able to replicate these issues and are workin on a solution please. Markus I have the exact same issues, and it's beyond frustrating. I run Squeezecentre on my main PC with Vista and I use a Netgear WNR834Bv2 router. My PS3 connects without any problems. Any suggestion as to what to do would be greatly appreciated. -- Brian Equator Brian Equator's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19196 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Hi Brian, I've had lot's of connection problems and router-crashes and after a lot of experimenting I have come to the conclusion that my Vista Laptop (that I bought to run SC) was the main source of my problems. I thought my wireless was ok, and I had no problems using the Vista laptop for internet browsing - but a look in the system log of Vista revealed lots of dhcp errors, disconnects and reconnects, not a problem for browsing and email, but not optimal for streaming. Do You have access to another PC (not Vista) that you could try an run SC on instead? keep Vista completely off, while testing this. Also try this: Wireless security if used, try disableling. If that helps try moving to WEP. I've had problems with WPA and reauthentication. Also try static IP's on the PC with SC. Good luck -- Letten Letten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
JJD;324795 Wrote: I have been trying to set up my squeezebox Duet for several days. I keep losing the connection to my SB (Controller gives all the messages you can read in this Thread. Sometimes I get a connection but that lasts for a few minutes. If I try to play songs during that time I get the blinking for a longer period of time and then the connection to my computer is lost (then I can play songs on the SB by using Squeezecenter in my Browser). If it doesn't lose connection inmediately it takes ages to select songs. Getting a list with artists takes like 2 minutes (3800 songs on a network disk). Even SqueezeCenter in the browser is slow. I play songs via OTSJUke via the same Network and everything works instantly (also with Windows Media Player). The SC Cache directory is like 60+ Mbyte for just 3800 songs... I rebuild it completely a few times to ensure nothing was wrong. If I select another song it takes sometimes 30 seconds before it starts playing. THis improved a bit by giving the process Real Time Priority! MEmory is enough (1.5 GB on a 3 GHz XP machine) Does anybody see a solution for these issues or do have to send the thing back to Logitech (after browsing through the 25 pages around this issue I am a bit worried if the developpers can solve these issues). My setup: Hybrid TCP address SB 172.16.134.2 TCP controller 172.16.134.1 Subnetmask 255.255.255.0 Firmware SB 36 Software controller7.1r2722 Software SqueezeCenter-versie: 7.1 - 22170 @ Mon Jul 28 13:36:57 PDT 2008 - Windows XP - NL - cp1252 I got the DUet with the 7.01 software but after the first issues I updated to 7.1 Switching of AVAST Virus scanner and my Firewall doesn't help anything. All my other equipment (6PC's, 3 Network drives, 2 Network Printers, 5 Network Cameras work great on the network. I switched of the cameras during working with the Duet to ensure maximun Network Bandwith. Everything including the SB is wired. The Controller is connected via the Squeezebox. I have tried it via my wireless router however this didn't give any improvements either. Same experience for me when I brought a trial Duet unit home for testing. All of the dropped connections, input response delays, and inconsistent reliability made its use too frustrating and therefore back it went. Defintiely not ready for prime time for me - still way too buggy. -- RoonieQ RoonieQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
I have been trying to set up my squeezebox Duet for several days. I keep losing the connection to my SB (Controller gives all the messages you can read in this Thread. Sometimes I get a connection but that lasts for a few minutes. If I try to play songs during that time I get the blinking for a longer period of time and then the connection to my computer is lost (then I can play songs on the SB by using Squeezecenter in my Browser). If it doesn't lose connection inmediately it takes ages to select songs. Getting a list with artists takes like 2 minutes (3800 songs on a network disk). Even SqueezeCenter in the browser is slow. I play songs via OTSJUke via the same Network and everything works instantly (also with Windows Media Player). The SC Cache directory is like 60+ Mbyte for just 3800 songs... I rebuild it completely a few times to ensure nothing was wrong. If I select another song it takes sometimes 30 seconds before it starts playing. THis improved a bit by giving the process Real Time Priority! MEmory is enough (1.5 GB on a 3 GHz XP machine) Does anybody see a solution for these issues or do have to send the thing back to Logitech (after browsing through the 25 pages around this issue I am a bit worried if the developpers can solve these issues). My setup: Hybrid TCP address SB 172.16.134.2 TCP controller 172.16.134.1 Subnetmask 255.255.255.0 Firmware SB 36 Software controller7.1r2722 Software SqueezeCenter-versie: 7.1 - 22170 @ Mon Jul 28 13:36:57 PDT 2008 - Windows XP - NL - cp1252 I got the DUet with the 7.01 software but after the first issues I updated to 7.1 -- JJD JJD's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19076 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Same problems here, i really cant understand how the remote loses the connection with the box even if is in ad hoc connection and i am in the same room. Regards -- raffo333 raffo333's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18221 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Changed to WEP with 128bit, but I doubt this had any real consequence because my SB is hardwired and the remote is connecting via the SB. However, I'm definitely operating better. The switch to something other than 192.168.1.1 for the router IP address and IP range seemed to have to single greatest effect on stability of my system. Been up for a few days now, even after restarting my computer several times, she comes right back up! Nice. T- -- thealmost thealmost's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17780 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Hi, I got rid of my connection problems by changing WPA-PSK (TKIP) security to WEP 128 bit and MAC-filtering. The problem seemed to be reauthentication, during which the connection was lost. I'm using a ZyXEL P-660HW router, and my reauthentication timer was set to 3600 seconds (1 hour). SC is running on a Vista laptop also wirelessly connected. First I got rid of some DHCP errors by switching to static ip on the server. But I still got disconnections, then I tried using a ethernet cable to the server to rule out wireless problems on the serverside, still diconnections at 1 hour intervals now, then I tried reducing the reauthentication timer to 5 min, and wow, now the disconnections came at 5 min intervals!. Unfortunatly my only choices were to increase the timer to max. seconds (2h45m) or to disable WPA security. First I tried without security and it worked without disconnections for 8 hours straight. Afterwards I tried with WEP and still no problems. Hopefully my frustrations are over now and I can start enjoying my music :0) To test whether reauthentication is a problem try to extend or decrease the timer and observe or disable WPA completely for a while. /Letten -- Letten Letten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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OK, I spoke too soon. This morning when I turned my computer on I was hoping the blue light would turn white on the SB. No. SqueezeCenter was up and running. But the SB simply would not hook in. I power cycled the router and boom. White light. Everything is fine. However, the same host issue is not over. There must be an issue with this router releasing connections completely. Any ideas Slim? So, while better, at least I can play music, I'm still less than fully functional. Here are my IP settings to improve the picture of my system. Cheers, T- -- thealmost thealmost's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17780 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I'm having the same connection problems between the router and the controller as many have reported here. My set-up is a Linksys WRT54G v5 router with WPA (TKIP) encryption and latest firmware (1.02.5). The router is the DHCP server and assigns all IP addresses. I am running SC 7.0.1-19705 on a dedicated linux server. The SBR (firmware 23) connection is reliable (once I manage to get it set up) as is my SB3 connection. My other computers have no problem connecting to the network. The SBC (7.0.1 r2448) is the only problem part in the system. When I put the SBC battery into my jive beta controller (MAC address (00:13:E0:A1:78:3B), it works fine, same firmware, though the jive remote now complains about an invalid MAC address when it boots up. It seems that some hardware change between the jive remote and the SBC is making a difference. -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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my friend has your router, v8. his computer, with vista (and maybe his xp ones too i'll ask) when coming off of hibernate for sure, and maybe sleep, don't reconnect to the internet. i've been trying to solve the issue for him without much luck. i wonder if it is some kind of inactivity / sleep / power saving issue though, and perhaps the SBC has the same issue as his laptop does. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / SBC - w/SC 7.1beta - Win XP Pro SP3 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Since this thread regarding network flakiness is the highest in this forum, only second to the one announcing the duet release, one would think that slim should be taking this very seriously. I'm now starting to add other annoying issues to the list. Like, one songs plays while another shows up in the now playing. Took a factory reset to fix that one. Also, stuff I purchased on iTunes used to play back, my latest purchase won't show up in the list. I'm getting ready to cash in unless we start seeing answers or I at least get an update indicating that there are real issues here that need handling. Keeping us in the dark is not helping. And today I could not get support on the phone. On hold for at least a half hour. My two cents. Tyler -- thealmost thealmost's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17780 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I'm also having a terrible time with the Controller's network connectivity. Right now I've got it sitting a few feet away from the wireless router, and everything else in the house (including this laptop, as I type, about 200ft away) works fine. But pinging the Controller shows terrible network issues: Code: Reply from 10.23.17.127: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=64 Reply from 10.23.17.127: bytes=32 time=3244ms TTL=64 Reply from 10.23.17.127: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=64 Request timed out. Request timed out. Reply from 10.23.17.127: bytes=32 time=883ms TTL=64 Reply from 10.23.17.127: bytes=32 time=2427ms TTL=64 Reply from 10.23.17.127: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64 Request timed out. Request timed out. Reply from 10.23.17.127: bytes=32 time=1924ms TTL=64 Reply from 10.23.17.127: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=64 Reply from 10.23.17.127: bytes=32 time=471ms TTL=64 Request timed out. Reply from 10.23.17.127: bytes=32 time=293ms TTL=64 Request timed out. And all told, I'm seeing 50% packet loss: Code: Ping statistics for 10.23.17.127: Packets: Sent = 89, Received = 44, Lost = 45 (50% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 2ms, Maximum = 3708ms, Average = 938ms I've tried turning off wireless power saving, and see no difference. Even when I first boot the Controller, it comes up with high latency and lots of packet loss. The router is a Linksys WRT54GL running the latest Linksys firmware. I'm really loathe to replace the router, which is working fine for 5 or 6 other wireless devices, just to see if it helps. Any ideas? The Controller really isn't usable this way. The Receiver works fine wirelessly and I can play music by controlling it from Squeezecenter, but that's small consolation. -- aiken aiken's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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This is an old tip. My romote can operate apporx 3-4 hours in this mode. -- Kim.T HP T5700 Thin Client running FreeNAS + SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 Synology DS-101j / Samsung SpinPoint T133 HD400LD 400 GB - now with 92 mm fan TViX HD M-4000PA / Samsung SpinPoint T133 HD400LD 400 GB Sony HX750 HDD recorder Kim.T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15059 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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PeterDB;302033 Wrote: What is a lot of battery power? How much time can you now use the remote without having to charge again? I also get around 3-4 hours worth with WPS off - had hoped for more. However I cannot say how much of a difference this setting does because the controller never worked properly without disabling it. The good news is also that 7.0.1 has been released now, so it's not necessary to run beta software anymore in order to access this setting. Kim.T;302129 Wrote: This is an old tip Whilst being old it was certainly not readily available; neither as information on the forums (probably me primarily targeting the beginners forum - seemed like the best option - and/or just not specifying the correct keywords) nor in the official software (needing beta software to even access this setting). -- zzap zzap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17307 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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pablolie;301065 Wrote: the controller loses connectivity every few minutes You may want to look at this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47190 The controller went from useless to really-good just by turning off Wireless Power Save. It uses a lot of battery power but I don't have connection problems anymore. -- zzap zzap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17307 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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zzap;301971 Wrote: You may want to look at this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47190 The controller went from useless to really-good just by turning off Wireless Power Save. It uses a lot of battery power but I don't have connection problems anymore. that is an awesome tip - i had not seen a powersaving option (and had looked for it), i did suspect this may have been a wireless power saving issue. i will definitely check this out and report. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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zzap;301971 Wrote: You may want to look at this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47190 The controller went from useless to really-good just by turning off Wireless Power Save. It uses a lot of battery power but I don't have connection problems anymore. What is a lot of battery power? How much time can you now use the remote without having to charge again? Rgds, P. -- PeterDB PeterDB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11341 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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see thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=301063#post301063 i bought the duet a few days ago, installed it, and trouble set in where previously the SB3 had left such great impressions that i own 3 of them. the SBR works great and sounds great (i use the optical IF to feed an external DAC). but the SBC is another story altogether. i have upgraded to the latest nightly, so the controller now has version 7.0.1 r2409 pad #62... the rest of the config is quite straightforward... SqueezeCenter InformationSqueezeCenter Version: 7.0.1 - 19608 @ Sun May 11 00:41:20 PDT 2008 - Debian - EN - utf8 Server IP address: 192.168.1.104 Perl Version: 5.8.8 i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.45-Debian_1ubuntu3.3 Platform Architecture: i686-linux Hostname: pablo-linux Server Port Number: 9000 Total Players Recognized: 1 Player InformationName: elk-livroom Model: receiver Firmware: 23 The IP address for this player is: 192.168.1.106:21062 The Ethernet MAC address for this player is: 00:04:20:16:30:f6 Wireless Signal Strength: 97 as mentioned, even with this the controller loses connectivity every few minutes, the improvement now is that it reconnets more readily - but i find the product quite unusable. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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for the record i have found the Duet so unusable that i have decommissioned it in its original intended place of deployment. i have set up a SB3 instead. the Duet will either get returned or will sit it out in an area of very occasional use, waiting for firmware and software to come up to par. my opinion: Duet is not ready for primetime. i take ownership for buying a cutting edge product that was basically a beta trial, and will simply watch the development from the sidelines, but i can not recommend ths product to anyone - unlike the SB3, for which i am an effective evangelist. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Ben Sandee;301091 Wrote: On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:10 PM, pablolie pablolie.39a22z1210562101 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com wrote: unlike the SB3, for which i am an effective evangelist. If you evangelize anything like you rant then I doubt you are an effective evangelist. You need to cite specific problems for a rant to be effective. Ben i stated both the issue and posted the configuration. i don't think slim devices needs you to come to their defense, they can talk for themselves. do *you* own a Duet? does it work flawlessly? my rant was topic related. look at the title. yours wasn't. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I have solved my problem and the Duet now works!! I thought I'd follow up and post my solution to my whole problem for completeness; Robin D;292357 Wrote: - Loss of connection to wireless network - Loss of conection to music source (blue symbol) - Jittering/stuttering of streamed music despite acceptable signal strength. - Constant 'Software Updates' loop/failure every time I wanted to use it. - All of the above unpredictable/at random and resolving/un resolving regardless of my input. SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0.1 - 18284 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Solution: - I needed the newest nightly build od SC to overcome the Networking Problems - I needed to manually load the Controller firmware using a SD card because the newest build had a software update problem - Not clear in the instructions - I needed to do a factory reset, with the ethernet cable inserted BEFORE resettingn the controller. The Ethernet/Hybrid options were then available Also relevent may be that I returned the original Duet for test/repair and received a replacement. Best regards and good luck! Robin -- Robin D Robin D's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Robin D;299186 Wrote: - Not clear in the instructions - I needed to do a factory reset, with the ethernet cable inserted BEFORE resettingn the controller. The Ethernet/Hybrid options were then available Robin Why was that nessesary ? Did you get an replacement for both receiver an Controller - I guess for my version of the Receiver this sould not be nessesary because the FW of the Controller should already be up to date. -- Kim.T HP T5700 Thin Client running FreeNAS + SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 Synology DS-101j / Samsung SpinPoint T133 HD400LD 400 GB - now with 92 mm fan TViX HD M-4000PA / Samsung SpinPoint T133 HD400LD 400 GB Sony HX750 HDD recorder Kim.T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15059 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I had the whole set replaced. I read somewhere (on the forum) that if the Reciever is not re-set first, the Controller does not recognise fully and the options are limited (my interpretation from memory). As long as the Controller isn't failing to update through the wireless network, don't worry about it. **Incidentally, after 3 months of waiting, fiddling, exchanging and fiddling, I got the thing to work last night - as reported above. Fantastic! I then made the mistake of turning it off overnight. When turned on, the reciever works (from the Browser) but the Controller no longer sees the Reciever. Needless to say I am not very happy. Anyone have any clues as to what the problem Now is? Robin -- Robin D Robin D's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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scottwmackey;297043 Wrote: That's what I am using and it is totally hosed. Whenever I am connected to SqueezeCenter, my Squeezebox will completely freeze within minutes. It work flawless, however, through SqueezeNetwork. What did you do to fix whatever your problem was? SqueezeCenter: 7.0.1 - 19133 (or later) Controller software version: 7.1 r2349 [EMAIL PROTECTED] #53 (or later) Firmware: 23 (as stated on controller when it is connected to receiver) http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/trunk/ -- jrichardson James R. QA - breaking things so you don't have to jrichardson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I just wanted to let you know how my connection problem was resolved. I used to have a problem choosing music source from the controller. The screen would show the name of my computer running SqueezeCenter (SC) as well as SqueezeNetwork (SN), but trying to select SC only showed the connecting screen for a long time (every time) before finally saying that the connection failed. This issued was solved either by upgrading my Linksys WRT54G router firmware to DD-WRT v23, by the latest software upgrade on the controller, or both (I did not have time to try just the new router firmware because the controller auto-updated). I suspect the problem was the router firmware, since I saw a comment about my old third-party (Satori) firmware causing similar problems with other applications. My only problem now is that the SC default skin is very slow in Firefox, but selecting the classic skin solves that. SqueezeCenter: 7.0.1 - 19133 Controller software version: 7.1 r2349 [EMAIL PROTECTED] #53 Firmware: 23 (as stated on controller when it is connected to receiver) -- C_Swe C_Swe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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JimC;291466 Wrote: Having gone through lots of problems like this--most recently with an utterly awful experience with a 2wire residential gateway I got as part of my ATT U-verse service--I know that it can be frustrating.-= Jim That's what I am using and it is totally hosed. Whenever I am connected to SqueezeCenter, my Squeezebox will completely freeze within minutes. It work flawless, however, through SqueezeNetwork. What did you do to fix whatever your problem was? -- scottwmackey scottwmackey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17046 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Not a comment on PeterDB's experience just a general on on antenna length. Small doesn't necessarily mean bad, increasing the length could actually make the signal worse. Antenna length is determined by wavelength and the circuitry it is connected to. Changing its length changes the balance between the design parameters. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Hi, I have been through the same as most here, i.e. loose connective or just poor reception in general. I have been running the latest nightly builds for quite some time, but it never really seems to get that much better. As any other wireless device in our household has not issues, I thought it was the Controller, since my Receiver is connected wired and the Controller is connected in wireless mode, not bridged (ie. Controller is connected to the modem/router wireless and the Receiver wired). I opened up the Controller, and saw that the antenna was really small. So, I modded it - very amateur mod, no less - to make it longer and this really improved my connectivity and the Controllers responsiveness. Check here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46852 /PeterDB -- PeterDB PeterDB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11341 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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mherger;295342 Wrote: 7.01 to fool around with my Duet. Biding time until the bugs get ironed out. Bugs which have been reported and not fixed? Michael see also: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40091 -- fakarava2 To nobody, except those who will take pleasure here (Franz Schubert, 01/31/1797 - 11/19/1828) fakarava2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16310 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Phil Leigh;295239 Wrote: why on earth would you want to run 2 instances of SC? I have my original SC on my windows file server which has a couple TB of hard disk space and approx. 75K songs (flac,wav,mp3). The 2nd SC is a beta box, which is a small fanless ITX unit running SlimNAS. I have been having a few issues with the SlimNAS ITX SC recently, so I keep the windows SC up and running as a backup. Plus I can't fit all my music (yet) on the slimNAS unit, so I sometimes jump over to the Windows SC. I don't believe this is breaking any rules. Again the bug (or what appears to be a bug) is a corner case situation, but it should probably go on the list of things to be fixed. cheers, -- sfraser 2 Chan. System SB3-Benchmark DAC-1- Bryston(BP-25,3B)-PMC TB2 Home Theater System SB2- Bryston(SP1,4B,4B,2B,2B)- PSB Stratus Goldi Basement System SB2- Parasound Preamp (carver M1.0t) -Klipsch La Scala's Bedroom System SB2- Sony BoomBox Rear Deck/Patio Duet- Yamaha Reciever- PSB Mini's, sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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sfraser;295440 Wrote: I have my original SC on my windows file server which has a couple TB of hard disk space and approx. 75K songs (flac,wav,mp3). The 2nd SC is a beta box, which is a small fanless ITX unit running SlimNAS. I have been having a few issues with the SlimNAS ITX SC recently, so I keep the windows SC up and running as a backup. Plus I can't fit all my music (yet) on the slimNAS unit, so I sometimes jump over to the Windows SC. I don't believe this is breaking any rules. Again the bug (or what appears to be a bug) is a corner case situation, but it should probably go on the list of things to be fixed. cheers, No - sorry I wasn't being clear...I can see why you would have 2 installations and occasionally switch between them...I meant why would you have 2 active at the same time! Also, whilst not breaking any rules, I'm sure you can see why that might cause the players to get confused about what IP the SC is on at any time? I suppose that with static IP everywhere you COULD get this to work reliably. I wouldn't like to try it with DHCP! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Phil Leigh;295540 Wrote: No - sorry I wasn't being clear...I can see why you would have 2 installations and occasionally switch between them...I meant why would you have 2 active at the same time! Also, whilst not breaking any rules, I'm sure you can see why that might cause the players to get confused about what IP the SC is on at any time? I suppose that with static IP everywhere you COULD get this to work reliably. I wouldn't like to try it with DHCP! I don't see, or there should not be, any problem having multiple SB's and multiple SC's on the same L3 network/broadcast domain. Each SC and SB host has a unique MAC/(DHCP assigned IP) combination. The controller, in the advanced feature menu , has a music source option which lists all SC's currently available on the local network. This allows the controller to point the SB that is currently being managed to anyone of the SC's available (thats how I understand it). Higher level protocols should take care of any session communications between the SB and the chosen SC. I think where the problem lies, is with the controller, I think it may have a tough time jumping between SC's? Particularly if the SC or the end SB requires a S/W upgrade. Can anyone comment on the communication exchange between the controller and the SC? Cheers, Have a great weekend everyone. -- sfraser 2 Chan. System SB3-Benchmark DAC-1- Bryston(BP-25,3B)-PMC TB2 Home Theater System SB2- Bryston(SP1,4B,4B,2B,2B)- PSB Stratus Goldi Basement System SB2- Parasound Preamp (carver M1.0t) -Klipsch La Scala's Bedroom System SB2- Sony BoomBox Rear Deck/Patio Duet- Yamaha Reciever- PSB Mini's, sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Guys, found a little bug in SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 - 18932. Nothing major, and you may already be aware of it. I have two SC in my home network. One is running an older version of SC. If i try to point an SB from one SC to another SC from the controller, the controller will get caught up in a endless message regarding upgrading the S/W. This does not go away, even after i flash the SB by using the brightness key on the infrared remote of the SB. Only way out of the loop is to remove the batteries on the Controller. -- sfraser 2 Chan. System SB3-Benchmark DAC-1- Bryston(BP-25,3B)-PMC TB2 Home theater System SB2- Bryston(SP1,4B,4B)- PSB Stratus Goldi Basement System SB2- Parasound Preamp (carver M1.0t) -Klipsch La Scala's sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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why on earth would you want to run 2 instances of SC? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Phil Leigh;295239 Wrote: why on earth would you want to run 2 instances of SC? Maybe for the same reasons I do (I run 6.5 on one rig and 7.01 on another). 7.01 isn't ripe yet, plus all of my favorite plugins haven't been re-written for 7 yet... So I keep 6.5 for the main system and run 7.01 to fool around with my Duet. Biding time until the bugs get ironed out. -- Yannzola Yannzola's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=874 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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7.01 to fool around with my Duet. Biding time until the bugs get ironed out. Bugs which have been reported and not fixed? Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Yannzola;290315 Wrote: Looks like I'm suffering from similar symptoms. Receiver connects to Slimserver 7.01 without a hitch, Controller cannot connect reliably. Both are seeing 75-80% signal strength from my Linksys WRT54G router. Running on Vista Home edition. As of SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 - 18932 @ Sat Apr 19 cp1252 (and several Controller updates since) things are looking up! So far I'm managing to connect to SC from my controller consistently, with only a minor amount of lag. Hurrah! -- Yannzola Yannzola's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=874 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Yannzola;294716 Wrote: As of SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 - 18932 @ Sat Apr 19 cp1252 (and several Controller updates since) things are looking up! So far I'm managing to connect to SC from my controller consistently, with only a minor amount of lag. Hurrah! I note, however, that some of the problems that people, like myself, are having (I assume) won't be helped by fixes made in SC because we're not using SC. I can put my controller within 2 feet of my router and I'll still lose the connection. I do need to consider whether switching out my router might be my best option. Anyone have suggestions on routers/APs that are working solidly with the Duet? -- Rolo Rolo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4589 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Rolo;294784 Wrote: I note, however, that some of the problems that people, like myself, are having (I assume) won't be helped by fixes made in SC because we're not using SC. Pardon my ignorance... but how can you serve any sort of music without running SC? -- Yannzola Yannzola's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=874 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Yannzola;294807 Wrote: Pardon my ignorance... but how can you serve any sort of music without running SC (SqueezeCenter)? At the moment, I don't have a computer hooked up to my wireless network. I'm just streaming from Pandora and Internet radio feeds through Squeeze Network. -- Rolo Rolo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4589 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Rolo;294853 Wrote: At the moment, I don't have a computer hooked up to my wireless network. I'm just streaming from Pandora and Internet radio feeds through Squeeze Network. Doh! I forgot about the SqueezeNetwork. Got it :) -- Yannzola Yannzola's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=874 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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browellm;294097 Wrote: You need to have a look at you router's dhcp range first (from it's admin pages) E.g. mine is 192.168.1.64 - 192.1.68.1.253 As long as you pick an address on the same subnet 192.168.1.x you will be fine. I picked 192.168.1.60 for example. x can be anything from 2 to 63. Avoid 0,1,254,255 as are special addresses and/or reserved usually. QUOTE] Thanks - in your first post you said you picked a static address outside the Home Hub's DHCP range, but here are you saying you picked one within the same subnet. Isn't that contradictory ? Forgive my ignorance Also, do you need to set up the Hoome Hub to run with static IP addresses before you are able to enter the static IP adddress in the SB controller. ? Thanks for your help -- jefferic jefferic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17044 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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jefferic;294460 Wrote: Thanks - in your first post you said you picked a static address outside the Home Hub's DHCP range, but here are you saying you picked one within the same subnet. Isn't that contradictory ? Forgive my ignorance no, its not. its good advice. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / Jive - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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jefferic;294460 Wrote: Thanks - in your first post you said you picked a static address outside the Home Hub's DHCP range, but here are you saying you picked one within the same subnet. Isn't that contradictory ? Forgive my ignorance MrSinatra;294463 Wrote: no, its not. its good advice. To be a bit less laconic, the DHCP range can be a subset of the addresses on the subnet. For example, my home subnet is 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.255, but I have set my DHCP server to give out addresses only in the 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.16 range. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Just thought I'd mention that I'm using the BT Home hub in one of the networks here and not had any problems with it serving DHCP addresses wirelessly to an SB3, Controller and Receiver and wired to an SB3. It also handles about 10 other devices as well with no issues including the server. Incidentally it also has an inbuilt DNS responder as well so if you name devices or it picks up their names via the network you can then use URL style names eg http://musicserver.home:9000 as everything on the local network becomes .home The latest software also has simple shared storage handling, if you plug a USB memory stick into the port it is mounted as a network shared drive. I've not got around to trying it with a real USB disk yet though. It also seems to have a print server built in against the other USB port but I've not tried that at all. -- Zaragon Zaragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14577 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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rtitmuss;293837 Wrote: Have you tried the 7.0.1 beta release, this includes fixes for a number of connectivity problems. Richard Yes. I did that before posting, to be certain that I wasn't wasting anyone's time. (Not to be too surly, but I imagine that's something people here appreciate, given how much of theirs has already been dedicated to the Duet.) Often what happens is that the connection icon turns blue after a period and I'm required to reconnect to the music source. -- breadboxer breadboxer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16990 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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breadboxer;293444 Wrote: Seems like there's been a lot of focus put on Zylex routers, but I'm having exactly the same connectivity problems (e.g., spinning arrow in the menus, red connectivity icon, lost connections, etc.) with a brand new Netgear WNR3500 on Vista. I would suggest that you broaden your troubleshooting effort, as I doubt very much that the number of posts on this lists even comes close to reflecting the scope of the Duet problem, and the regular customer support channels are falling a bit short. Have you tried the 7.0.1 beta release, this includes fixes for a number of connectivity problems. Richard -- rtitmuss rtitmuss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I'm having some of the same Duet connection problems discussed in this thread. My set up is a little different than most in that I don't have a computer connected to my network most of the time (long story) and have been listing primarily to Pandora or Internet radio. Basically, my entire network consist only of a Netgear Rangemax WPNT834 router using WPA2. Connectivity with both the Duet and my laptop has gotten better doing the following things: 1. Turning off the feature that lets the router switch channels. I now keep things on channel 8. 2. Broadcasting my SSID. However, I'm still having problems. 1. Often the controller doesn't find the receiver. Am I right in thinking that my WiFi situation is unrelated to this or do they talk to each other through the WiFi network? 2. When I look to see what devices are connected to my router, should I see separate entries for both the controller and receiver? I've only ever seen one SB device connected to the router. -- Rolo Rolo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4589 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Rolo;294019 Wrote: I'm having some of the same Duet connection problems discussed in this thread. My set up is a little different than most in that I don't have a computer connected to my network most of the time (long story) and have been listing primarily to Pandora or Internet radio. Basically, my entire network consist only of a Netgear Rangemax WPNT834 router using WPA2. Connectivity with both the Duet and my laptop has gotten better doing the following things: 1. Turning off the feature that lets the router switch channels. I now keep things on channel 8. 2. Broadcasting my SSID. Broadcasting your SSID shouldn't be required, but the auto channel stuff would create issues for both the Receiver and Controller. They would have to timeout their connection before retrying, as opposed to following the channel as neither of them implement roaming. 1. Often the controller doesn't find the receiver. Am I right in thinking that my WiFi situation is unrelated to this or do they talk to each other through the WiFi network? If they are both connected via wireless, then they talk to each other through the router. The only time the Controller is connected directly to the Receiver (via our private ad-hoc connection) is when: 1) the Controller is setting up the Receiver; or 2) when you have the Receiver connected via ethernet and the Controller is bridging to the network through the Receiver. 2. When I look to see what devices are connected to my router, should I see separate entries for both the controller and receiver? I've only ever seen one SB device connected to the router. See above. Both should have a connection to the router, unless the Receiver is connected via ethernet (and even then it should show up in the router's table, just as a wired device rather than a wireless one). -= Jim -- JimC well, she wasn't all of that, but she sure was some of that. -- BKlaas' college buddy JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Firstly, apologies as I haven't read the *entire* thread. But I thought I would post my experiences of connectivity with the SB3. My router is a BT HomeHub (a very common router in the UK based on a Thomson/Alcatel box). I have WPA2 and manual channel selection running. My SC runs on my home pc, which is not run 24/7 and is therefore subject to normal daily power-downs. I had *very flaky* DHCP performance between the HomeHub and SB3, and had to regularly go back through guided setup to get the SB3 to renew it's lease (it would often be allocated a private address range 169.x on startup). Although it doesn't affect other wireless devices on my network (Wii, couple of laptops), I don't think the embedded DHCP server gives stellar performance. Hacked off with the constant loss of connectivity I shifted the SB3 to a static address outside of the HomeHub's DHCP range. Since then (about 2 weeks and counting), connectivity has been absolutely rock solid. I am sure many Duet owners have already tried the static address approach, but if not I urge you to give a try. -- browellm browellm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Browellm : I think I have got the same problem with the Home Hub would like to try this solution. How do you select wich IP address to use when you shifted it to a static address outside the Home Hub range ? -- jefferic jefferic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17044 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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jefferic;294092 Wrote: Browellm : I think I have got the same problem with the Home Hub would like to try this solution. How do you select wich IP address to use when you shifted it to a static address outside the Home Hub range ? You need to have a look at you router's dhcp range first (from it's admin pages) E.g. mine is 192.168.1.64 - 192.1.68.1.253 As long as you pick an address on the same subnet 192.168.1.x you will be fine. I picked 192.168.1.60 for example. x can be anything from 2 to 63. Avoid 0,1,254,255 as are special addresses and/or reserved usually. Note: if your subnet goes all the way from x.x.x.1 - x.x.x.254, and you are uncomfortable with altering the range just pick a number, say 200, that is unlikely ever to be allocated to a device by your dhcp server. Your internal address range might be different to mine (10.0.0.x is common) but the principle is the same. Just keep your chosen address on the same subnet (first three dotted number the same) Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs, I'm not sure of your networking knowledge. -- browellm browellm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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JimC;294042 Wrote: If they are both connected via wireless, then they talk to each other through the router. The only time the Controller is connected directly to the Receiver (via our private ad-hoc connection) is when: 1) the Controller is setting up the Receiver; or 2) when you have the Receiver connected via ethernet and the Controller is bridging to the network through the Receiver. See above. Both should have a connection to the router, unless the Receiver is connected via ethernet (and even then it should show up in the router's table, just as a wired device rather than a wireless one). -= Jim Looking at my attached devices through my router admin utility, at first I only saw one device (the receiver) and now I'm seeing no devices. However, I am streaming music over the net. When I go to the Squeezebox information utility, the IP address being shown is the IP address assigned to the router and not a number that my router should have been assigning to a connect device. I'm also showing a signal strength of 90. When I go the wireless information page, the IP address shown is one generated by my router, but I still don't see it (I'm assuming the controller) as a connected device. I also show a SNR between 25 40. Interestingly, while I'm writing this, the controller showed the red icon. I then went to the wireless network option in advanced settings. The controller is trying to find network. This should be easy because I'm in range of 12 different networks. Unfortunately, the display is just showing the spinning dots. -- Rolo Rolo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4589 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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@xn03296 Yup, there's a problem with the current update - not directly related to the network issues in this thread. See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46509page=3 - for details, and if you're stuck here, upgrade server to 18963 and the controller will update correctly. Certainly that worked for mine just now which had the same problem. -- kimbl kimbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16599 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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This DUET makes me want to SCREAM It has been working great all week long. I have upgraded it (or been forced to upgrade it 3 or 4 times). It currently has 2269 on it. This morning, the remote was not connected to the receiver. I tried to connect and ONE HOUR LATER after about 15 factory resets on the remote and receiver - STILL NO LUCK. If I am lucky, I get to the final screen and it tells me 2287 is available, so I choose to download it. 10 seconds later, the remote spontaneously reboots. I tried it numerous times with the same results. So I grab my memory card and download 2287 off Slim's site. I turn on the remote and it gives me 3 options: download and install 2287, install from SD card, install from SD card. No matter what I do, the damn thing spontaneously reboots after 10 seconds of trying to copy the update. Now that I have pissed away 90 minutes of my Saturday working on this $428 device, does anyone have any suggestions to get me listening to my music again??? This is getting old. Does anyone test these updates??? -- davidmac27 davidmac27's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Now, I am sitting here and I want to hear my music. But my controller told me that a update is waiting. ok, I press the button, the controller tells me that that the update is running. after the restart the conroller tells me a update is waiting. I press the the the button, the controller restarts and ??? the controller tells me a update is waiting... and so on. No chance to hear music. no reset of the controller helps. everytime the controller wants to make an update. Hell, I payed 400 Euro for this bananaware. The Idea of the sqeezebox duett is great, if it works its a very good peace of hardware... but the software is a alpha-release. so i will take a cd and put it into my player and hear my music in the old way.. -- xn03296 xn03296's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I found the solution in another thread. When it prompts you to update, if you hit the back button to get back to Settings. Then goto Advanced and choose Software Update. It worked that way for me. Sheeesh. -- davidmac27 davidmac27's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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if i push the back button, nothing happens. Its like a loop. I only can push the OK button for the update, the controller reboots and a only can choose the option start the update. I restarted the slimserver, I have updatet the slimserver to the newest version. nothing helps. I am an it-professional, I know clusters, solaris, networks and so on. I have a wired 100 MBit CAT5 Lan and I use the Duett in the Bridge Mode. Buts this peace of hardware makes me crazy. sometimes it runs like a charme, but sometimes you cant use it because you have no connection to the receiver, why? its a miracle. You look to your network, to your dhcp server to the mac-adresses, to the slimserver and and and... My Network is wired, so it couldnt be a wireless problem. I am tired of spending so much time in making this peace of hardware working. I wont to hear music, thats the reason why i bought the duett. -- xn03296 xn03296's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Try doing a reset on the receiver (hold the button in until you see rapid flashes). At the same time, do a factory reset on the remote. Then after setting it up (again), when it says it has a 2287 update, hit the back button. Hopefully this will work for you. And I hear ya! -- davidmac27 davidmac27's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Thank you very much for your Tip, I will try it tomorrow. I will give you a feedback. regards Henrik -- xn03296 xn03296's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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No problem - I am starting to know this product better than the ones that I am Product Manager for... Cripes! (;-) -- davidmac27 davidmac27's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
rtitmuss;292497 Wrote: A number of people of reported connectivity problems when using a ZyXEL P-2602HW(L) router with the Squeezebox Controller, both in this thread and in Bug 7153 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7153). I have been testing with one of these routers today, and I seems to be working fine. I'll continue using the router for a few days to be sure. I note that the firmware version on the router I have is V3.40(AUI.0) | 05/16/2007, where the routers reported previously all have firmware from 2006. Older firmware is not available from the ZyXEL website for testing, however in the release note it mentions that the routers wireless LAN driver was upgraded on 12/14/2006. If you are experiencing a problem with one of these routers please go to http://www.zyxel.com/web/support_download_list.php and upgrade your router to the latest firmware. I think this is likely to fix the connectivity problems you are seeing, please do report back with any success/failure so we can either close the bug report or investigate further. I should also stress that anyone with connectivity problems should try the latest SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 beta release (and included Controller firmware) as this includes a number of important bug fixes. Thanks, Richard Seems like there's been a lot of focus put on Zylex routers, but I'm having exactly the same connectivity problems (e.g., spinning arrow in the menus, red connectivity icon, lost connections, etc.) with a brand new Netgear WNR3500 on Vista. I would suggest that you broaden your troubleshooting effort, as I doubt very much that the number of posts on this lists even comes close to reflecting the scope of the Duet problem, and the regular customer support channels are falling a bit short. -- breadboxer breadboxer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16990 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
