Re: [discuss] Why
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 01:57:34PM -0500, ingerso...@information4u.com wrote: > > Why do I have to change my password? Why can't I keep the one I registered > with? I don't want a different password. Care to go into a little more detail? I have no idea what your talking about. -- Bob Holtzman GPG key ID = 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch check the price of the beer. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [discuss] Re: Oppen Office for iPad ?
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2010/01/31 5:52 PM Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> >> >> >>> Maybe it's not possible.. I'm very interested in selling my Macbook for >>> an >>> iPad, but without any office suite, it would be difficult to work with it >>> (I'm a student, and I would use it to take my lessons) even if iWorks >>> exist >>> for ipad, I need an application which would be able to write and read >>> .doc >>> and .ppt documents. >>> >> > There will be iWorks for the iPad. iWorks on a Mac reads and writes MS > Office documents. I understand it will do the same on the iPad. It should > handle everything you need at class. I would still want a computer at home > as well. > > I think my next upgrade will be an iMac and an iPad instead of getting a > MacBook Pro. > > > >>> >> Watching Computer Action show they showed a much better option with >> OpenOffice.org for much less :) >> http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ >> > > A cheap netbook as a replacement for a MacBook? Ridiculous! Save some money > instead of getting an iPad and get a far inferior product. > Well I am not sure a netbook is so bad, first of all is more portable but still lets you type at a normal speed. And also and more importantly it also have the most appreciated 10hr battery life which is enough to go a whole day without looking for a power chord/socket. I am seriously considering it for my international traveling and presentations. At the end of the day my netbook has surpass the usability of my big powerful laptop the same way the big powerful laptop replaced my bigger powerfuler (is this a word?) workstation. And you get a much more complete Office suite in OpenOffice.org :) -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español IM: j...@jabber.org
Re: [discuss] What to do?
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 18:01:16 PM +, Harold Fuchs (fuchs.har...@googlemail.com) wrote: > In the past I have "forwarding to unsubscribed user" but have been > slated for doing so. And every time you, and others doing the same before you, were given tons of patiently explained reasons why it was and will always be a idea. Besides, about 20 days ago I and Barbara D., after an initial misunderstanding, had agreed here on this list that Barbara's attitude and strategy seemed very promising (and/because it did NOT include bothering subscribers to death with "forwarding to unsubscribed user" messages). Now, Harold, I do NOT want to repeat again in full detail why this: > I'm inclined to go back to "forwarding to unsubscribed user" and is a really idea, but you raised what is (for me at least) a NEW issue and I would sincerely appreciate an explanation, so here's a question and PLEASE let's stick to it. You wrote: > I am not allowed to reply privately because, apparently, that makes > me look like some sort of "official representative" of OOo. I admit I had missed this before and it really puzzles me. May I ask when/where/how you were told that you can't do that, and by whom? Marco -- Enough with this "Free Software is communist" myth! Please! http://stop.zona-m.net/it/node/87 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: Oppen Office for iPad ?
On 2010/01/31 5:52 PM Alexandro Colorado wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Maybe it's not possible.. I'm very interested in selling my Macbook for an iPad, but without any office suite, it would be difficult to work with it (I'm a student, and I would use it to take my lessons) even if iWorks exist for ipad, I need an application which would be able to write and read .doc and .ppt documents. There will be iWorks for the iPad. iWorks on a Mac reads and writes MS Office documents. I understand it will do the same on the iPad. It should handle everything you need at class. I would still want a computer at home as well. I think my next upgrade will be an iMac and an iPad instead of getting a MacBook Pro. Watching Computer Action show they showed a much better option with OpenOffice.org for much less :) http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ A cheap netbook as a replacement for a MacBook? Ridiculous! Save some money instead of getting an iPad and get a far inferior product. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] What to do?
On 1/31/2010 1:01 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote: I have noticed lately in the us...@openoffice.org list several questions from unsubscribed users that people have answered but have failed to include the questioner's address in the to: or cc: list so the answer will almost certainly go unseen. In the past I have "forwarding to unsubscribed user" but have been slated for doing so. I am not allowed to reply privately because, apparently, that makes me look like some sort of "official representative" of OOo. So, what to do? The questions look, superficially, to have been answered so many folk won't bother further. The needy newbies think the support for their software is *&%$£, i.e. worth roughly what they paid for it. So OOo gets a bad reputation among exactly those users we'd like to encourage. If I answer myself I'll be accused of duplicating messages, adding surplus traffic, taking someone else's credit etc. etc. So, what to do? I'm inclined to go back to "forwarding to unsubscribed user" and ignore the consequences but ... Advice, please. Hello Harold, It's been a while since we talked, all is going well I hope. You and I have been rather intimate on this subject haven't we. Sounds like you already know what you want to do, which is to ping the OP via the list, yes? Id say just do it then - and offer another suggestion to go with it. You could use a standard response to point them to nabble (or other such archiver) and let them know that the responses to their question will be available via the archives web interface, then mentions the mailing list needing a subscription (fact I would down play that ). I would help put that response template together with you, if you like. Then attach the template text to the bottom of the first response to ther question on the list, the one you are going to bounce back to the list with the OP CC'd. The decision to take non subscribed posts was not in your hands - it must have assumed someone would do this - and you have been doing it quite regularly for a good while. If it were me I would do this only the one time for an OP, to mitigate the overload of mails on the list. But at this point, today, it's that or nothing given that you have been asked not to do it off list. (*unless* some automated response mechanism, similar to what TerryE setup at the forums for non subscribed emails perhaps, has been stood up that I haven't heard of and that might be cause I know there was individual initiative going in that regards but no idea where that is it) Anyway, that is my (current :>) ) .02 on the subject. Best wishes, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: [users] Danish government chooses ODF
On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote: In the us...@openoffice.org list > James Knott wrote: >>> The best way to sent a URL is to enclose it in < > brackets, which will >>> prevent it from being broken in an email. >> >> > > The above is simply wrong. The < > brackets make no difference whatsoever. It does on some programs. > The main culprits are Mac users. If a Mac user *sends* a long URL, chances > are it'll arrive broken in most non-Mac mail readers. I don't know why. I do > know it's possible for the Mac sender to fix it but I don't know how. I do > know that using < > brackets is *not* part of the solution. Nonsense. It's the program that matters, not the operating system it runs under. Historically, what you were /supposed/ to do was enclose thus: But a large number of programs did not support it, and it was eventually withdrawn as a standard (or perhaps it was only a recommendation). Some programs, however, still support it. And some support <...>, even though that was never a standard. -- John W Kennedy "Though a Rothschild you may be In your own capacity, As a Company you've come to utter sorrow-- But the Liquidators say, 'Never mind--you needn't pay,' So you start another company to-morrow!" -- Sir William S. Gilbert. "Utopia Limited" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Why
Why do I have to change my password? Why can't I keep the one I registered with? I don't want a different password. Brenda
[discuss] Re: [users] Danish government chooses ODF
In the us...@openoffice.org list James Knott wrote: The best way to sent a URL is to enclose it in < > brackets, which will prevent it from being broken in an email. The above is simply wrong. The < > brackets make no difference whatsoever. The main culprits are Mac users. If a Mac user *sends* a long URL, chances are it'll arrive broken in most non-Mac mail readers. I don't know why. I do know it's possible for the Mac sender to fix it but I don't know how. I do know that using < > brackets is *not* part of the solution. No, I haven't replied to the wrong list. I've deliberately moved the conversation to a *more* appropriate one. I know I'm still OT. -- Harold Fuchs London, England - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] What to do?
I have noticed lately in the us...@openoffice.org list several questions from unsubscribed users that people have answered but have failed to include the questioner's address in the to: or cc: list so the answer will almost certainly go unseen. In the past I have "forwarding to unsubscribed user" but have been slated for doing so. I am not allowed to reply privately because, apparently, that makes me look like some sort of "official representative" of OOo. So, what to do? The questions look, superficially, to have been answered so many folk won't bother further. The needy newbies think the support for their software is *&%$£, i.e. worth roughly what they paid for it. So OOo gets a bad reputation among exactly those users we'd like to encourage. If I answer myself I'll be accused of duplicating messages, adding surplus traffic, taking someone else's credit etc. etc. So, what to do? I'm inclined to go back to "forwarding to unsubscribed user" and ignore the consequences but ... Advice, please. -- Harold Fuchs London, England - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Oppen Office for iPad ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAktmFu4ACgkQPeaoSmjQcubN6QCfaGq/2XztLnYo5Fb/Z1qOCLeB fUsAniDCMTjWq28Ke9NkqSVviFZVqr4a =34/U -END PGP SIGNATURE- On 1/28/10, Antoine Forgeard wrote: > > Hi, > > > I was just wondering if you were planning to develop an oppen office > aplication for ipad ? > > Maybe it's not possible.. I'm very interested in selling my Macbook for an > iPad, but without any office suite, it would be difficult to work with it > (I'm a student, and I would use it to take my lessons) even if iWorks exist > for ipad, I need an application which would be able to write and read .doc > and .ppt documents. > > > > Thank you for your answer. > > > Best regards > > > Antoine Forgeard > Watching Computer Action show they showed a much better option with OpenOffice.org for much less :) http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español IM: j...@jabber.org
Re: [discuss] Words of thanks and thoughts for the future WAS Re: [dev] Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition
Hi Cor, Le 31.01.2010 10:54, Cor Nouws a écrit : > > Hi Jean-Baptiste, > > Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote (31-01-10 09:13) >> Ok, but have read something from Oracle about OOo and Free Software ? > > Yes, on their website you find an overview of all projects they > participate in /drive. Quite a lot. Perhaps, but Wednesday "Free Software" was not a keyword on the slide about OpenOffice.org. > >> No, only Cloud Computing which is, IMHO, a workaround to kill Free >> Software. >> >> The facts are : >> - 1 slide versus 100 000 000 downloads >> - Oracle does not know the right name of OpenOffice.org. > > Looks even more like a wonder that we've Oracle's support? No, we have > a good starting point. And if OpenOffice.org can show an even more > attractive potential, I expect that Oracle will be an even better > partner. I do not know if we have Oracle's support, it's too early to say. I know only that Oracle has OpenOffice.org and that Oracle has forgotten ".org" in the name of OpenOffice.org. And that Oracle has exchanged the roles of StarOffice and OpenOffice.org : with Sun, StarOffice was the non-Community edition based on OpenOffice.org; in other words, OOo plus something. From now, it seems that OpenOffice.org "Community Edition" will be StarOffice minus something. Minus what? Regards. -- Jean-Baptiste Faure French N-L project Lead http://fr.openoffice.org Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Community Edition
Hi Laurent, Laurent Godard wrote (31-01-10 09:15) OOo should remain OOo the non-community-edition was staroffice All should be OOo. Free to Oracle to propose valuable services for business based on the high skill of the hamburg team Following a split to OOo community edition / OOo (with closed parts as ex staroffice) is a bad strategy - Bad for OOo community, Bad for Oracle I agree. I've never understood the words as if there was going to be a new community edition, nor a new name. I just read the expression as a way to put emphasize on the business/supported version. Regards, Cor -- >> Your office 2010 software: the new OpenOffice.org << Cor Nouws - nl.OpenOffice.org marketing contact - Community Council member - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Words of thanks and thoughts for the future WAS Re: [dev] Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition
Hi Jean-Baptiste, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote (31-01-10 09:13) Ok, but have read something from Oracle about OOo and Free Software ? Yes, on their website you find an overview of all projects they participate in /drive. Quite a lot. No, only Cloud Computing which is, IMHO, a workaround to kill Free Software. The facts are : - 1 slide versus 100 000 000 downloads - Oracle does not know the right name of OpenOffice.org. Looks even more like a wonder that we've Oracle's support? No, we have a good starting point. And if OpenOffice.org can show an even more attractive potential, I expect that Oracle will be an even better partner. Best, Cor -- >> Your office 2010 software: the new OpenOffice.org << Cor Nouws - nl.OpenOffice.org marketing contact - Community Council member - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Community Edition
Hi OOo should remain OOo the non-community-edition was staroffice All should be OOo. Free to Oracle to propose valuable services for business based on the high skill of the hamburg team Following a split to OOo community edition / OOo (with closed parts as ex staroffice) is a bad strategy - Bad for OOo community, Bad for Oracle Laurent - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Words of thanks and thoughts for the future WAS Re: [dev] Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition
Hi, Ok, but have read something from Oracle about OOo and Free Software ? No, only Cloud Computing which is, IMHO, a workaround to kill Free Software. The facts are : - 1 slide versus 100 000 000 downloads - Oracle does not know the right name of OpenOffice.org. Best regards. JBF Le 31.01.2010 01:04, Graham Lauder a écrit : >> Hi Cor, >> >> Thanks for your kind words and especially for your years of support for >> OOo. >> >> Let's keep on doing good things and talking about them. >> ;-) >> Liz >> >> > > I'd like to also echo Cors comments and add a few of my own. There has never > been a > time when I haven't been proud to be part of the OOo community and proud of > our > corporate partner. No matter the ill informed and parochial slings and > arrows cast > in Suns direction they are the example of how a corporate partner can work > with a > community. That is not to say it's perfect, it will probably never be > because of > the obvious tensions between an open community and the necessities of > corporate > governance but what has been obvious to me since the early days of the > project, has > been the constant improvement in the connection between Sun and the community > and > the obvious desire to see that improvement continue. > > It is good to see Larry talking about "Hiring Sun into Profit". Let's hope > we see > some of the development load spread about in OOo/SO. I see a bright future. > > Good luck to all our team in Hamburg under the new regime. > > > Cheers > GL > > -- Jean-Baptiste Faure French N-L project Lead http://fr.openoffice.org Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents.